destiny got owned too tb shouts out to the edit made by: playirtz, ( / playirt ) i have made 0$ off of youtube since i started posting on here (shocker) but it's people like him who's support helps keeps this going.
"Who's fault is it the poor people are poor?" "The capitalistic system we live in" "...So poor people are too lazy and stupid that's why they're poor?"
@GeLow BrandoGuessing you're trolling, it's like you're saying being a criminal doesn't need to mean you're poor. Excellent observation sir. Trust me, it's not all that difficult to not have 3 felonies either you shitstain.
@GeLow Brando Point was that having felonies doesn't need to make a person poor, I don't know why you're assuming that, it makes no sense if you think a little bit.
It’s like this tiktok I saw of this person who was talking to a guy and they said they were non-binary and the guy said that they were still a man and then they said they were gay and the guy said that they weren’t a real man... but they’re non binary... but they’re gay... the guy came to conclusion after 5 minutes that they were half a man and half not o-o
@Cornelia I mean.. after this hour and a half deducting that man isn't the brightest isn't that hard.. Like I don't think I'd be able to follow a conversation with him, man is worse than a bad coded AI
@@daviddeida lol this is my first time seeing JLP speak, I gotta say my expectations for intellectuals on the right are pretty low but he somehow went even lower. If this is the best you guys have I feel bad for you. Though I do think he's playing dumb so that he doesn't have to actually engage with anything Hasan is saying. There's no way someone can exist in a political space for this long and not even understand the basics of capitalism. Open a book by an actual historian sometime, if this guy impresses you what's going on in there will rock your world.
Is he juuuuuust smart enough to know how to use his actual stupidity? Lying & grifting for the money? Literally, and sadly, as pathetically unintelligent as he appears?? I genuinely cannot figure it out
X P he wasn’t being sarcastic when he made the title. He got owned. He always gets owned. Jesse kills people with common sense, because common sense isn’t so common these days
Oh he has to be. I was just thinking about how hes suprisingly the literal dumbest person Ive heard talking. If hes serious...yep. Okay no, I took care of Invalids. They couldnt talk or eat. Hes just a bit higher
@Descartes' Apparition "We can rightfully insult someone"..is my point.You can insult me,its no skin off of my nose.To live in a world afraid to insult someone or thing is tyranny.
"should rich people give their money to the poor?" "I think poor people should be given the value of their labour so the poor people wouldn't need other people's wealth" "so should rich people give their money to the poor?" DUDE.
Wealthy people take all the risk. Workers are hired to create the product that the person who took the risk wants to sell to make a profit. You can get another job, if their business fails, its on them. Not you. If you want 30 bucks an hour to work at taco bell, be prepared for everyone to have nothing that they want, just be given what they need....those that survive anyway.
@Fool 4 Christ that sounds great, but thats not what they want. They believe that you should be able to live a lavish life on a low level job, no matter what the repricussions are to inflation. Sorry. No. You should aspire to be better and make more profit. Nobody should live on the salary of their first job. Socialism destroys greatness by bringing everyone down, making them beg.
@@cynical8330 For real! I'm just a couple minutes in and I can't stand this guy, nor do I understand how he came to be an interviewer for whatever show this is. It's like a three year old merged with a computer from the 80s and is existing in his body. Like I straight up do not believe there is an actual, functioning, adult human mind behind that face, there literally can't be. I feel like i'm in a fever dream with how oblivious this man is to what is going on the room around him
It's called the socratic method and is the basis of all science. I mean real science not the fake kind which is politics with a veneer of science ie social science.
@@Tricycloe Or maybe he expects more than a canned, meaningless, programmed answer. Maybe he expects real thought. Jesse seems like a very sharp guy to me. People like that usually have high expectations.
@@fartinmymouth9253 "I'm older therefore I am morally and factually correct about the issues I've pathetically attempted to address, take that you millenial"
@@fartinmymouth9253 I love it. Hasan easily lays out some great criticism about capitalism and its inevitability to maximize inequality of wealth. And that all falls under when its revealed that Hasan at that time is 27. I rest my case.
@@lx3469 that's not true Jesse was more implying how you barely have any life experience to say what is right or wrong in this, you are a successful online creator who's trying to tell other wealthy people how they should vote for their tax dollars to be spent.
I’m from Europe. I thought this was something like an Ali G sketch. This guy has issues. I mean really he shouldn’t be on TV. Why would you try to debate a guy like this. America is dead. This can’t be true.
He knew people is going to bullshit and dodge the real question. He is actually hella smart. Acting dumb and strike you went you lower your defense. I tried his tactics and crash every brainless democrats
Discrimination. 1. the unjust or prejudicial treatment of different categories of people or things, especially on the grounds of race, age, or sex. 2. recognition and understanding of the difference between one thing and another. All discrimination? So we both agree that me being physically fit and in my early 30s I should be allowed to join the youth football league as a player?
"Well, black people wouldn't get longer sentences if they could afford better lawyers." - you're so close to seeing the problem, JLP lol. You're almost there buddy, just put 2 and 2 together.
His debate style is just asking a super broad and unanswerable question over and over until the interviewee breaks down and just stops trying. Thank you Hasan for continuing to try to get something through his empty skull
Chris Rms the real reasoning behind the questions he’s asking aren’t questions that can be answered with something as simple as yes or no. that’s the thing with conservatives and most liberals too- you guys think any answer that isn’t ridiculously simple or needs explanation is wrong. explains why there’s so many smooth brains and 13 year old edge lords who like conservatism
“Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.” ― Mark Twain "Ouch my Brain after watching this." ― Me
@@aaaaaaaaaa7699 are you refering to someone specific? I do not agree though, because if hes paying some 5 an hour that means the employee couldnt find someone willing to pay more and thats his best option. Isnt something better then nothing? Also, the employee always has the right to leave. Peolple point to sweden and other countries for their universal healthcare, but neglect the fact that they have no min wage. Despite that they have a higher average pay then we do. You might not understand it but min wage actually hurst employees, not help them.
@@aaaaaaaaaa7699 thats exactly the issue. If you dont agree thats ok, but simply laughing instead of proposing a cross argument thats supported in facts or logic, is a problem. Maybe you would walk away learning something or altering your opinion, or maybe i would, but neither ever happens when you write something off with a simple lol. In my opinion people who dont agree but have no argument that supports what they believe either try discrediting the other person, criticize their spelling, or just laugh. Those responces all scream that someone doesnt agree but doesnt know why.
@Dill Rogerz Yeah, it was a failed attempt to describe socialism, but it's hard to explain complex systems to idiots. The fact he had to resort to the "loaves of bread" example in the first place demonstrates that Peterson's a moron.
Jesse lee peterson is me after a week of bad anxiety, three hours of sleep a night, and no caffeine trying to engage and ask questions in class so I get a good participation grade.
Unfortunately if u go to any of his YT videos he actually does have a following. Just a quick glance will show u its predominantly White “Christian” Men, no surprise. Watch JLP interview DC Youngfly it is so fucking hilariously pitiful.
He has a following of incredibly racist people who want to justify it by saying "look, a black guy said it, so it's not racist!" Pretty much the same exact following as Candace Owens.
He can’t handle anything besides a basic yes or no it’s honestly sad, anytime you’re giving him an answer that’s longer than a quick phrase he short circuits and just repeats the question 😭 I refuse to believe he actually has people who seriously support him
Saying yes or no means to take a stance .. when people dont and the question circles around they claim they never agreed or disagreed .. so if the question is simply do you agree or disagree and the person starts explaining their stance before taking one.. you realize they are NOT answering the question.. If you take a test and the question is true or false and or yes and no.. and you write instead a few sentences.. should the teacher give you credit or say you didnt obey the assignment? Then yall call him ignorant instead of folks who literally cannot answer a yes or no question. If your stance needs more than yes or no.. you simply not confident in that stance.. thats why theres interviews with other people with the same stance who actually get further in the convo because they can take a stance instead of dance
"Do you believe black people victims" "I already answered that question" "Do you believe black people victims" "I already answered that question" "Do you believe-"
He is consequently. I was amazed seeing footage from a long gone past: he is just the same man as now, saying the same things. I think if you speak truthful & people challenge that ... it starts to sound like a book you read a few times. He is of course also ‘ public ‘ JLP but I bet you have another version of urself home alone. I have!
That's literally true. I grew up in Oklahoma and most of my teachers had second jobs or had to get on food stamps to support their family and our textbooks were 20+ years old. It was disgraceful :/
I went to a poor school in Oklahoma. I once asked a question in Chemistry class and my teacher literally said “Im not sure. When I was studying it in college I was bad at this and my professor told me I should give up research and just teach.” 😳😳 I was a little dumbfounded that day. Let’s just say, even if you didn’t show up you’d probably pass.
100% seriousness my jaw dropped within the first 30 seconds of this interview. Is this actually someone people watch and look up to as an intellectual? JLP has to be a meme. No way this is real.
@@drewmichael9173 he supportsthe wrong ideology. Capitalism is the devil, it discourages honest work and alpha males. Socialism encourages alpha males and hard work
When someone asks "What's wrong with that?" in response to someone saying that teachers often require 2 jobs just to support their families, you just know you are dealing with a sane and rational person.
I was completely shocked when I heard that, I thought he was just gonna duck and dive that statement like he did for that whole debate but he really did that
Peterson: "How old are you" Hasan: "27" Peterson: "Owned" 😎 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I once used to debate someone as dumb as Peterson until I finally realized there were a million other more productive things to do with my time.
Why is this bicycle here? I placed it there for convenience But why is it here? So that I dont have to walk too far to the front door Are you lazy? No just want my bike close to me Have you tried not putting it there? No Is it because you are lazy? ……mm no Why not put the bike in the house? Because it’s dirty Are you too lazy to clean it? …*sigh* …Yeah sure Ok, thought so
Holy shit, you have the goddamn patience of an angel. Trying to understand this guy is the most complicated thing ever. And I don't even know if he realizes it. The whole situation is so frustrating. I could go on and on on how this guy is just crazy but I don't want to waste my breath.
Jesse actually thinks he is just the pinnacle of intelligence and wit, and right wingers just keep telling him he is because he gets clicks on their propaganda. Surrounded by silly ass old racist men who just tolerate him for his platform. His dumb statements garner attention and theyre willing to overlook his melanin long enough to get that attention.
I know, I would have exploded within the first 5 questions he asked and tell him he's a f-ing moron with the brain function of a first grader. Aaaaaagghhhh
@@coocoo9120 Yeah, because he kept getting interrupted so that he could explain very simple political processes to someone who claims himself as a 'pundit'. You don't understand nuance, insight, or empathy, and that's okay. It's not your fault, it's whoever did not teach you about the politics which affect every aspect of your life.
Watching this interview is like putting a 10 year old behind the wheel, getting into the back seat without putting on a seatbelt, and telling them to do whatever they want.
This interview went like this: "Do you like eggs?" Well I mean yes, but what is the..." Do you like instagram? Wait what? Do you like instagram? Yeah I guess Do you think instagram is better than eggs? Wait, you can't even compare... Do you think instagram is better than eggs? You know what, no i dont think so. So you think eggs are a better social media platform than instagram? Wait how did we arrive at that conclusion JLP fans: hE's ExPoSiNg HiM bY asKiNG tHe rIght QuEsTIoNs
jayden garcia but it went more like this: Yes or no question: do you think black people are victims? His answer: yes but this and that. JLP: okay, but I just want yes or no. His response: well I have to give some context JLP: nah I just want a yes or no answer then let’s move on His response: no but do you still beat your wife See how you need to explain context there JLP: lets continue we only have so much time
Yeah. He might be genuinely stupid but he is also rhethorically pretty able. Like all his questions are reductive enough that makes it so the audience who is biased against the interviewee can interpret the answers in the least charitable way possible. And when the interviewee is trying to elaborate he moves on to the next question.
@@nahuel3433 and this is a good thing??? Nah jesse didn’t even understand half the questions he asked Hassan so u know he’s not writing these or coming up with these questions. And I don’t think his terrible interviewing skills is on purpose or some type of method I think he’s just one minded and not very smart and delusional. He obviously has some deep rooted trauma that he covers up that explains all of this but as long as he’s making money i don’t think he cares
@@ashbison Good for keeping his audience in his corner of ideology and making his opponents look bad for them. For actual honest discussion and actual honest reflection no, it's not good at all. It's a toss up for me if he is actually as dumb as he seems or if he plays a character for rhetorical effectiveness.
@@nahuel3433 he definitely plays it up for money. He has to have had something happen to him when he was young or something traumatic. I even personally know a self hating black person. He lived near me and is in jail now for some bullshit but he hated black people so much in school and tried to make himself seem white by trying to change his hair and even used makeup sometime but he also used eye contacts like Jesse does. I’m not sure if u can tell but he wears blue eye contacts…Jesse obviously has some deep rooted issue with his race and is trying to run from it.
Bro just watching this is irritating he doesn't even let Hasan answer the question because he keeps trying to get a gotcha moment by framing questions to receive specific answers.
53:50 JLP: "Are you a man?" Hasan: "I don't know, whats your definition?" JLP: "If you are a real man you don't need a definition" Hasan: "Ok, sure, then I'm a man" JLP: "What is a man?" JLP needs a definition, ergo JLP is not a real man confirmed
People has to be trolling when being fan to him, even people who consider themselves right-winged thinks he is an idiot and makes no sense. But people are idiots so I wouldn't be shocked if someone actually consider him an intellectual.
@@truthseeker5360 not everything that doesn't validate your worldview is a conspiracy my dude, take a methods class or something and come up with a real critique or shut up lol
@@francollins4036 if you watched any of the interview you’d realize the guest wasn’t free to give any response, as Jesse kept oversimplifying question he stated, Hassan would try to give the response and he would continue to ask the same oversimplified question, leading to Hassan never getting to truly answer most of the questions.
@@francollins4036 Did you stop beating your wife? (If you can't answer this tell me why Hasan should have answered any of the loaded questions he was asked)
It’s like everyone’s racist uncle and grandparent were condensed into one person. Speaking over you, refusing to answer questions, changing the subject….it’s a masterclass in ignorance.
We have a famous poet verse in Arabic that goes like this : "لِكُلِّ داءٍ دَواءٌ يُسْتَطَبُّ بِهِ - إلاّ الْحَماقةَ أَعْيَتْ مَنْ يُداويها" And the meaning : "There is a cure for every disease, except for foolishness"
Jesse: “Men are women if they get angry because real men don’t get angry” Also Jesse 10 minutes later: “All men are trash because they get angry” …So all men are women then according to him 😂
@@daviddeida patient...? He just states the same loaded question over and over again. Then when someone finally gets the chance to answer, he shuts them down, and pivots. He's not patient, and he's incredibly rude.
JLP: Why don’t you explain this to me like I am an eight-year old. Hasan: **reiterates that capitalism and intergenerational wealth contributes to poverty** JLP:... why don't you explain this to me like I'm five.
@Morad Morad You’re right. The facts are the amount of killings are outrageous no matter if you try to minimize it by putting the entire U.S population against it as if the entire population including kids and the elderly are ALL interacting with the police continuously. Who you think you’re fooling dishonest clown? You’re playing with the numbers more than anyone else lol You also add in “ that broke the law “ as if that means they had it coming in some way. Pitiful.
@@jordanader2775 They discredit data or the interpretation/provider of said data? I think there’s sense in questioning whether some piece of data you are given is falsely represented to mislead you or even falsified entirely. Now when you take some piece of data that holds up to scrutiny and present that data and they STILL discredit it that’s when there’s a problem
This dude is the definition of the uncanny valley. Like the way he acts and talks does not seem human, but it's almost there. Like he's "hearing" what Hasan is saying but only as 1s and 0s entering his robot mind
also: major fucking props to Hasan for staying as composed and calm as he did through this interview. I wouldn't be able to last more than two minutes being exposed to this mouth breathing troglodyte
I know this comment is a year old but this is the 6th time this week the term “uncanny valley” has come up randomly and unconnected whether in conversation or a video or a podcast or a book. It FUCKING WEIRD DUDE. SOMEONE MAKE SENSE OF THIS FOR ME PLEASE
I’d like to add also that Jesse absolutely made it sound like he was at least involved in the raising of his son. But as soon as he realized it proved his point wrong he then try’s to act like Hassan was lying and making stuff up the man is absolutely crazy
Hasan deserves all the credit in the world for not socking him after he said "oh so your mother snuck in illegally and dropped you off". Like wow, don't fucking refer to her and to her giving birth to her son like she just plopped him out mindlessly like a fucking animal taking a shit as it walks. PLUS THEY IMMIGRATED **LEGALLY.** Them moving here was *LEGAL.* Just the way he said that pissed me off, I wouldn't have blamed Hasan at all for getting pissed but he didn't.
Hasan won through his patience and composure, although there's a real sense of defeat in realising that no matter how well he argued his perspective, JLP (the idiot that he is) was always going to walk away from this feeling like he'd won the debate.
@@OkayTimeToGoNow who's fault the poor people are poor.? Who's fault the poor people are poor? Who's fault poor people are poor? I'm just banging my head against the wall.
@@OkayTimeToGoNow Cenks nephew looked like an idiot. Your an idiot too if you feel he came out of this positively. His defense on communism was hilariously awful. Why would you hire someone to make 5 loafs of bread and pay them 5 loafs of bread???
thts why JLP doesnt let hassan talk for too long, hassan will drag him down with buzz words and beat him with platitudes and egocentric arguments. aomething jlp clearly doesnt want on his show, he only wants straight answers, not to spread false doctrine to his people.
I respect Hasan so much. He just bops around the internet spreading good information in any way possible. I think his work has a net positive for sure.
@@raputha1148 I'm against senseless violence... Which is why I believe smacking this dude makes 100% sense. I can be tolerant to a lot of things, but being blatantly ignorant, arrogant, and constantly in denial is not something I can handle. I have 0 patience for that, and neither should anyone else who takes themselves seriously.
As a european who hasnt ever heard of either one of these guys, my only question is: Why in the world would Piker even attend an interview like this? This Peterson person clearly has no clue what he is talking about. Over the course of the entire interview he failed to ask even a single intelligent question. All he came up with were idiotic and suggestive yes-or-no-questions. Is that his premise? Am I missing something? I dont understand how a guy like that even gets to have his own talkshow. It seems like he cant follow three quarters of what Piker is saying. What an odd country.
Well he was raised on a plantation in Alabama and lived through the Civil rights and Jim crow laws. That would make him more knowledgeable on the subject actually walking in the shoes.
@@aerbald sometimes experience can work against knowledge. There's a reason anecdotal evidence is seen as weak proof of any theory in any even vaguely rigorous methodology. It's easy to misrepresent or misremember your own experience to fit an existing bias (the human memory is notoriously unreliable) but material analysis like Hasan is talking about isn't subject to the same blind spots.
Especially when he would bring Hasan's mother into his political bs points. That pissed me off and would have gone off on Jesse about that if I was there. Then again, he would have said "see?! Women are angry". Ugh. Can never win against these ignorant and deplorable fools.
This whole conversation is comedy gold. Props to Hasan for keeping his cool in the face of such biasedly framed questioning and willful ignorance. I lost my shit at 59:39 when JLP hollers out "BETA", like he is shooting a three pointer from half court. Also, chuckled a good bit at "tossik massalinity".
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