“Can you stay open for two months and maybe we can try to make it together?”. Two women helping and uplifting each other creates magic. What a miraculous story. I love you Jewel. ❤️
Love this lady so much. I was assigned as her body-man and driver when she spent a day in our city before her show and got to talk to her and she makes you want to watch over her and protect her. Later, in my Army years, I always took her with me in my heart.
@@andymcmeekin2532 its really not that farfetched. i had a PE teacher in my senior year of high school who was a bodygaurd for mariah carey and we thought it was bs but he showed us a bunch of pictures.
That's awesome dude, just watching the full podcast now and I 100% understand what you mean. You're so fortunate to have had the honor of taking care of/watching over her.
I was in San Diego in the 90’s when Jewel was up and coming and never knew any of her back story other than she was living in her car. What an inspiring/moving story. She’s the real deal.. really enjoyed this!
Deidre, maybe a Captain Obvious moment when asking this, but did you become one of the "regulars" who went to see Jewel perform down at that San Diego coffee shop? I never knew she was in SD during her struggling times, I just thought they discovered her singing in Alaska. BTW, 'she's the real deal' REALLY sums up Jewel, and why I've always liked her so much :)
She is the daughter of attila kuno kilcher aka "atz" who is the eldest son of yule kilcher who was a senator for the state of Alaska... this family has had millions of dollars before she was even born
Wow she was so astute in her decision-making. She educated herself and set priorities for how she wanted her life to look. Im pretty blown away; well done❤️
I'm a metal head. Yet I own Jewels first album. She has an amazing voice and her lyrics always touched my own darkness. Im so glad this popped up for me to view. I now know a little more of her, and where all that emotion comes from. So so glad she had the fortitude to keep going and share her music and story with the world.
Man I've been on a roll the past 2 years with first finding Jewel again n watching her music videos from her first album n omg did it bring back so many memories, literally had me in tears I missed those days watching Pop Up Videos on VH1 so bad! 😫😭...it got me on a kick to look up more n more 90s-like 2000 videos...I usually listen to oldies n love watching like QUEENS music videos and live shows n Prince n Micheal Jackson, to Hall n Oats, over the place, n now been on just watching the 90s videos brings back so many memories, I just love them😍🥰...like Fiona Apples video Criminal reminds me of old parties in houses that look like the house in the video, with that old green ugly carpeting n ugly orangish brown cough 😂😂
Rogan: "Did you have a manager?" Jewel: "No, but I found this book at the library." What a breath of fresh air to run across this episode. Didn't know they made people like her anymore.
I've read that book. It's great! A decade ago I thought I might get involved in the music 'business' but for now it's just writing and singing acoustic guitar and piano songs.
As a San Diego native, I remember these days when she was coming up. When she got discovered and had success, it was so awesome for those of us who got to see that part of the journey. Such an amazing and authentic person.
She's so business savvy, she understands the business of music and she's able to leverage her knowledge of the business to maintain her artistic integrity. It's incredible most artists strive for this and never attain it and yet she did. Exceptional and inspirational woman.
Joe didn't have to pay it back with album sales, so there was less downside. We know now that he did have to give up some create freedom, whether he admits that or not. They got rid of a bunch of old episodes because of who was on them, right?
The thing that I find amazing about her the most is that shes a multimillionaire yet shes maintained a sincere realness. Shes never lost the fact that shes still just a regular human despite the fame and money. A true beautiful soul.
And her mom robbed/embezzled her of $100 million. Highly recommend watching the full episode on Spotify for anyone that hasn’t. Wild life story and amazing insight to her as a person.
I just saw her in concert (touring with Train) and i was shocked at how amazing a performer and entertainer she was. She blew all our minds. She was fantastic. Huge respect..
This episode brought tears to my soul. This is the reason why Joe Rogan is the man for information these days. Not once you heard MSM through this last two years talk about mental health and this episode does that and helps you with tools to navigate all sorts of mental struggles one may face in life. This is the reason why I will never go back to MSM again in my life. Listening to her is the health option and information people need today and not even ONCE was promoted from any MSM with the level of care , purity and genuine emotions and debate. Thanks Joe Rogan for this one and thank you jewel you really are the now not so hidden jewel amongst the crap I see in this planet.
I agree with you. There's a reason he's got 13MM subscribers on YT and over 10MM that download his podcast. There is a REAL hunger for honest, open conversation that the MSM cannot/doesn't want to fill
Absolutely hated that line. Has LoA written all over it which leads to spiritual bypassing. Also absolutely hate people who had a lucky break (albeit through persistence and hard work and continuous hustle....) but then somehow feels entitled as if they made it to the top on their own and downplays luck and praises hard work. It's very easy to slap an Instagram feel-good, tough-ish Rocky Balboa/Tony Robbins quotes but those people who are suffering it is INEPT and GLIB. It takes more courage to feel the pain of others, extend hand of empathy and console a grieving person that say: "Oh tuff ish...get over it. What are you gonna do now now that your father is dead as a rock?" Love her music, but first time I realized how jaded I was to be star-struck. Be your own celebrity. Worship yourself. Instead of looking up to the elite.... I have few more celebs whom I idolize (like Eminem...lol) but this does it. These people are no different from the rest of us. Only us sheep who put them on pedestal with our money and tickets thinking THEY have talent and US don't. Well may US don't cuz enough people hasn't shown the same courtesy of compassion to pay for our talents. As someone in Reddit posted about Joe Rogan. Why would he sit on mountaintop and fling ish at others? And now he has some elitist buddies to do it for him.
My senior citizen heart is bursting for her. Yes, she’s talented. Yes she’s excruciatingly gorgeous. But if you listen carefully to the details of this story, she is also very bright.
I always loved Jewel, not just as a singer/songwriter but as a human being. That deep soulful quality shines through in this interview. Thanks for bringing her on, Joe!
My favorite JRE podcast to date. I had no idea how incredible her story is. The skills she used as a teenager to cope with her trauma, pain, anxiety, panic attacks, and suicidal ideation were incredibly insightful for her age. These are behavior therapies now called CBT and DBT. For anyone struggling, you can learn skills and not be reliant on pharmaceuticals for the rest of your life.
Idk about that....her entire family has been on TV and they're just as genuine as Jewel. Regardless of who actually holds that title, they're all salt of the earth type people and we need more Kilchers.
I know I’ve heard so many people talk about the come up and none of them sound so shocked they made it like Jewel. They clearly sold their souls and lie while she’s the real deal
Most likely part of why she turned down the record deal. She understand what they really can be and she chose the right path. She would not be anything like this if she had signed the record deal and went through all of that.
I busted out laughing too when she said that she went to the library to learn about high dollar record deals, good for her, I'd of done the same thing myself, libraries are awesome...
It’s a great podcast but not everything needs to be fun. People need to have information so they know what’s going on in the world. He’s always great at that.
Well if you don't know anything going in they can take advantage of you more easily she learned enough not to want a "loan" she wanted her money free and clear if she "owed" them they might insist she do all sorts of things she did not want to to pay them back. OK Jewel you need to let us distort your voice now ok Jewel wear this etc.
Too bad it's BS. Hate to break it to ya'll but there's a whole lotta half truths in her tale here. She HAD a manager named Innga Vanshtein and before that it was an SD attorney named John Von Passenheim (she had a Freudian slip when she said the music book was written by Passenheim. It was actually written by Donald Passman. oops!) Then the reason she got the record deal she did was because of her attorney in LA named Eric Greenspan. Her homeless story is exaggerated in a big way too. Her Mom was in SD and she lived in her van only briefly. She was surrounded by so much support that if she was really in major distress she would have been helped in seconds. I know because I was very closely involved with all the same venues and many people working with and around her at the time. The whole 'pay to play' thing was TOTAL BS. That was a thing in LA and SD people were NOT having that. If it did happen it happened very few and far between and people would raise hell about it. Most of the venue owners were super cool - Joe from Java Joes, The Arthouse in Carlsbad, Zanzibar in PB, Disc Cafe in La Jolla and so on . Also, there was not some super grunge thing going on in SD. It was a super mixed scene with lots of acoustic coffee shop type acts at the time so she was not some strange stand out. She fit right in with acts like The Rugburns, Gregory Page, Steve Poltz, Frank Drennan and many others. I don't get why Jewel is feeling the need to spin her story, it was interesting enough when it was just the facts.
This is such a wonderful interview ! As a mother of three, it filled me with hope, as far as the influences kids get exposed to, to see someone so REAL, so human ! We have never listen to her as we don’t listen 99.9% of artists 😂 but, we’ll start now. She’s truly more than a musician ❤️
Bounced over to Spotify. OMG - what an emotional roller coaster. Amazing story. Amazing, inspirational life. There are good things in the world. Jewel is one of the best.
I heard this podcast was amazing years ago but still wasn't prepared for how compelling the story was. It is begging to be turned into Oscar bait. She is such a good storyteller and getting a behind the scenes view of the music industry as grunge was blowing up in the 90s was so fascinating. She is so emotionally intelligent. Most people would have cracked under that pressure and then to do it all over again after that quick rise to fame is insane. Had no idea this was her life when she blew up on the radio in the 90s. And she is still so unbelievably talented with that amazing performance at the end. Will never hear those songs the same again. 4 hours went by so fast.
She was blistering red hot in the 90's.. All my nieces and sisters and every girl went crazy over here. Then when people found out she was homeless and living in a car and was self made they went even more crazy over her
The idea of “fear being a thief that takes your past and projects it into a future that hasn’t happened yet”, is the PERFECT metaphor to describe so much of the apprehension that people face when looking to make big changes in their lives.
I lived on Grand Ave in Pacific Beach, directly across the street from the coffee house she played at. They always left the door open and my roommates and I always noticed when she was playing because it was much better than anything else we heard coming from the door. Then one day she got huge overnight and we realized it was her, she def deserved it, and we kind of knew she would get discovered.
I'm late to the party but I love this story,, I grew up in a violent teenage marriage I listened to jewel she helped me get through those hard times listening to her music. Now I'm homeless and inspired. Great interview.
I too have been homeless and it basically strips away the steps we are taught and makes us think of things from a different perspective. Because when you're homeless, you don't have anything that's really tangible except for your intellegence and talent. So to try to build a life starting off in debt to someone, is a definite no unless you want to be owned and still face the risk of a falling out before the loan is paid back. So the risk of it is just too great no matter how badly we may want a particular change that will give us the break we so desperately need. Jewel is a great person that has more than just musical talent. Kudos ❤
She couldn't even sing in the beginning! She learned on the job! She might be a decent songwriter, but her singing was never worthwhile "art." It was unlistenable shite to any trained ear.
I was a MP in the Marines in the 90’s. Jewel came to Camp Lejeune and did a concert for the troops. I was assigned to her as security and have to say she was a very sweet and down to earth person. The only other entertainer I meet that was generally a good person with no ego was Jeff Foxworthy. He is a solid dude as well.
I was stationed at Camp Pendleton in the mid 90s and saw her play with the Rugburns at a coffee shop in SD. The friend she's referring to is Steve Poltz the lead singer of that band.
Love to watch her family on Alaska The Last Frontier. Great supportive family. Watching her father interact with the family and friends, you can see where she developed her honesty and work ethic. Love Jewels music and her son is adorable.
i used to work in the music industry and once got to work backstage at a jewel show. she was a queen and treated everyone very well. she even let the hired help eat the fancy catering with her crew, which was very kind
As an artist (writer/poet) I just love listening to other artists' interviews. This was an amazing listen. It says a lot about her to he homeless, trying to figure out her life and still turn down $1 mil. That's how the story goes when you are grounded and have a sense of where it is you want to end up rather than simply living in the moment. Truth is, that million dollars would have probably been the end of her career. That's admirable. I truly hate how the industry pollutes art. Ray Lamontagne spoke about that in an interview once. Actually Joe, Ray Lamontagne or Gregory Isaac Isakov would be an amazing guest 😊🙏🏿
I love the way Joe when he listens to stories from his guest he is genuinely in admiration of his guest. It is genuine and not like oh ok cool. He stops and really takes it in and is like wow. Keep the story telling. It’s a lost art form.
I broke my feet today because I kicked my computer because someone commented that my videos are bad! I hate unjustified criticism. Please wish me a speedy recovery, dear chae
So I just listened to the entire podcast on Spotify. Hands down one of the most interesting things I've ever heard. Every young person should hear this and take notes. This could save untold lives. No joke.
Ive been going through some hard times and i have to say listening to this pod cast gives great hope and this was so impactful thanks for this i needed it even years later thank you
@@reallyhappenings5597 The person he's interviewing does. Monologues are really weird and people who do them are usually schizophrenic. Watch any kid and how they light up when someone's listening. That's what Joe does.
People love Jewel because she’s clever AND thinks with her heart. That’s wisdom and love… we all wish we had it. In 1997 as an 8th grader, I used my babysitting money to buy her single on cassette, then her album on CD. (Two different versions of “You Were Meant for Me”). I knew way back then Jewel was a genuinely insightful, special person. Who could write “People living their lives for you on TV, they say they’re better than you, and you agree” and NOT be perceptive/truthful?
she has brilliant way of thinking, regardless of been homeless and offered million dollar deal , she didn't let her emotions and desperation take over her thinking mind . i loved her story thanks morgan for bringing her into your show.
This made me cry, one of the last things my mom and I did before she died, was see her in concert. She died 11.12.2000 This past week I been missing her so bad, just for Joe to have her on here. And she is just as amazing as I remember her..
I'm so sorry you're missing her so much.... my dad passed last year and I haven't been dealing with it very well and made some bad decisions... his birthday was 2nd February (2.2) and it seems almost every night I'm waking up at 2.22am
@@samuelwoods164 my daughters bday is 2.2 and mine is 222 And my mom's death date is 11.12 And my husband's bday is 11.12 He's saying hi. Numbers mean EVERYTHING, wish I can say it gets easier. I myself made bad decisions that I wish I didn't when she first died, but living a clean honest life is the best way to achieve happiness. I wish you luck on your path of grief, stay strong. Make him proud
@@ionkno1893 wow, I guess me even replying and telling you my fathers day and my experience adds to all of this, it never used to happen until he passed but the same thing (the 2.22am and many other strange occurrences with the number 2) used to happen to my dad for years before he passed... so your daughters birthday is 2nd feb?... I'm sorry I can't quite understand what date yours is.. 222? 2nd of feb is also a big day for Catholics called candle mass, I think it has something to do with the very start of easter (maybe not) and also an American thing to do with the end of winter groundhog day (and fantastic Bill Murray movie)
This was the best interview I’ve listened to in a long time, since Robin Williams. I listened to the entire interview today. Jewel is a true loving person. I was able to learn so much from these 2 individuals. Jon is a really good interviewer and host. My mind was blown with revelations, raw honesty and true emotions. It was refreshing to listen to 2 philosophers of life come together to share wisdom🥰.
I was one of those coffee shop regs who watched her play in PB. There was something special about her. You just KNEW she was going to be something special. And SOOOOO cute to boot!!
@@UNLEASHED369 she yodeled for us and I remember her telling a story and I cannot believe I forgot how talented she is! I am so happy to find out about her life story while in a PTSD program at the VA!
@@UNLEASHED369 I am in recovery for PTSD in the VA and am at the end of my treatment but have really just begun to live on my terms.🙂 This reminds me that inspiration is beautiful and listening to her story is one of those precious examples of success that people rarely see in successful people.🤔
Always loved Jewel and her music. She brought me through a rough time in my life and I am so great full. I still love her music. To bad music today is so full of hate. Will we ever get another like her.
This was probably the most humble, self-aware, and intelligent interview I have seen Rogan do. For Jewel to make such great decisions when desperate, to be so true to herself and well-being despite the money/bribe...not many people would pull that off. 1 in a million. Wow.
@Roy Whorshtz Yes, mutual agreement. They both(Ty and herself)even spoke on them splitting up, and why. It's a normal thing. My ex-wife and I did the same thing. You act like people can't get divorced, but still communicate and the children can live with both parents?? Not only have they both spoke about them splitting up. They both speak about how they communicate, and co-parent. So how is their little boy fatherless, and how was their divorce not mutual...when you can hear them actually say what I said? Grow up? Wow, how passive aggressive of you. You can't see past your own inner hatred for what happened to you, you actually believe every divorce is like yours. If you say you're not divorced...then you're speaking from a place of ignorance and this whole conversation was a complete waste of my time.
@Roy Whorshtz Wait, so you're doing the exact same thing? You assume that their son isn't "alrright". All I know is the son isn't fatherless, and they mutually agreed to get a divorce. Which those were your original points, which is coming from their mouths. So what you said about their son being fatherless, and Jewel leaving her husband, is untrue...period. Also, "broken homes" don't communicate and co-parent. Broken homes are dysfunctional and damaging. From what I've read and heard both them say about one another, it doesn't sound like a "broken home". Now as to them no longer being married, does that possibly affect their child, possibly. But until you ask the child, you and I will never know. But keep assuming since you went through some horrible shit??🤔
I look at the views on Spotify for this episode and it's nowhere near the top, but it's the best episode. Maybe it will catch on one day. Someone should make a film of her life.
This was a joy to watch. What a smart woman. Right in the middle of grunge, a homeless folk singer makes this choice. This is what a lot of acts should have done when offered huge contracts, not taken the advance but negotiated a bounce back deal. She said it herself, she was more concerned about being an artist than being famous.
I met Jewel when I was a bartender! She was in town with her then- husband on the PBR tour. She is the sweetest person ever. She left a FAT tip & I still have the autograph she signed.
I have so much respect for Jewel now that she’s shared her Rocky Balboa 12 rounds kinda of life: full of blows, yet a triumphant survivor. Beautiful, loving, inspirational, intelligent, tough human being. Thank you so much for sharing your story!
It's great hearing the backstories of "famous" people, even ones that are not superfamous. So many people don't realize the risks they took, the work they did, the humility and perseverance. Her story was so wonderful, raw and uplifting.
She talked about doing the kind of music that she does (folk) while everyone was listening to "grunge"... I was 19, maybe 20 , I was a big Smashing Pumpkins fan, I was somewhere on vacation and I used to fall asleep listening to the radio. One night, they played a song, it was so nice and soothing, I forced myself to stay awake, hoping they would say the singer's name. It was Jewel and the next day, I went to a music shop and bought her album "Spirit". I'm sure that I'm not the only one who likes "grunge" music and her music as well.
Funny you say that, I remember at the time everyone at the skate park had basically the same CD collection, nirvana and pearl jam and green day and smashing pumpkins and rage against the machine and tool and chemical Brothers and prodigy and Wu Tang and cypress hill and ... For some reason, jewel.
I've liked Joe since I first heard him, until this interview, now I still like Joe, but I love her so much, she's so real and beautiful, a woman like her... Wow, Imagine a woman like that to share your life with, so cool, talented and strong, she's something else. Amazing
If you haven't seen this full episode, make it the next one you sit down to watch. Her story is crazy and the end has a treat for any hardcore Jewel fans out there. Awesome episode! And thanks to Jewel for sharing that story. Absolutely incredible that she went through what she did and is still such a sweet person.
She did her homework. She didn't take money to buy a big house and nice cars when she knew she would get screwed on the back end. How do you think so many musicians end up broke after 5 years? They spend it all and realize they are in a shit ton of debt, so bye bye houses and cars and jewelry
This is one of his top 10 podcasts of all time. I can't think of anyone with a more interesting story. Incredible fucking podcast. Jewel is a total badass.
"Lights the darkness most fear." This was my answer when I was crying out for strength to get off drugs and the street. These lyrics entered my heart and I understood truth is the light. And truth begins with me. As I focused on the truth within, ridding what I did not need, everything came into place. Life love home amazing how a few words can inspire another to change their heart and mind that changes their actions. Thank you Jewel for Hands a beautiful beautiful song lifting many I am sure.
I love her self-awareness shown a couple of times in the interview. I don't know about her music but certainly that virtue needs to be acknowledged as it is not so common as some might think.
yup. tbh she got much cuter after she made the record deals and could afford health care, dental work and such. But yeah, she looks like she's been living well since.
She still is, but in her 20s and 30s she was absolutely stunning. Despite her naturally imperfect teeth, she was a beauty. It was a unique characteristic.
I love that Jewel did her own homework and equipped herself. Even more, I love that she could recognize the million dollar carrot dangled in front of her to hook her and reel her in and OWN her. Jewel chose her independence, her mental health and her freedom. I am so envious of the people who experienced her at the Interchange. However, like others i became acquainted with her and have loved Jewel since Pieces of You. I've read her book too and she tells her story and with every new song and interview i just keep loving Jewel more. Thank you Jewel for everything....you have no idea.
Jewel is one of MOST my favorite people on this planet for so many reasons I can`t type that long, The respect and admiration I have for this lady is boundless.
Rogan is a terrible interviewer. He cuts guests off to interject his own BS and make it about him non stop. Jokes go completely over his shiny bald head. I’m glad this episode appears to be an exception for once.
@@HaroldBallz He gets people to talk. And I've noticed in my life that people that bitch the most about people cutting others off by are mostly pissed that they got beat to the punch
@@HaroldBallz I respectfully disagree. He seems to have really genuine conversations and pulls way more out of interesting people than most “professionals” do. I think this is what the masses want - No bullsh$&, just talk. Of course, he changes his approach based on the type of conversation and who it’s with.
One of the best shows I witnessed in the 90's at the Orpheum in Boston. She was amazing!! She is so sincere. During the 90's there were so many phenomenal, independent, inspiring female artists. Sincere feminism was everywhere.
I felt indifferent about Jewel before this and in 14 min she has gained my lifelong respect. Not sure I'll ever truly enjoy her music but she kept it real under circumstances where 99.9% of people would not have, that is a recipe for respect in any world.
The beauty of Joe Rogan podcasts they give you perspective. Like how we saw how neil degrasse acts without editing lol. Some people are just geniunely nice
I haven't heard the podcast or even this video yet. But in reading your comment alone, which shows so much understanding, you've gained my respect. It is something I would've said, I've always been rather indifferent towards Jewel's art as well, but this would never impede a person gaining my respect.
@@TheShanlou Ya agree about her music. Saw her live in like 99 with Neil Young and Oasis. She was alright. Entertaining easy too listen too. It was outdoors so sound is different. In a bar or 1000 seat club she would be pretty good. She can sing i will give her that and she is a very beautiful lady. I was like 50 feet from her she has that thing. Cool chick it seems seen a few things
Unexpectedly one of the best podcasts ever done by Joe. My favorite moment was Jewel making a fair criticism to the Me Too movement (she said women had the choice to say no like she did). Then Joe, rather than going for the low hanging fruit, he goes the other direction and argues in favor of some aspects of the Me Too, making a good point about Hollywood. It was beautiful seeing a successful woman acknowledging some women use sex to advance in their careers and a successful man going on a rant against men who abuse power. That stuff makes more for gender relations than cringy slogans and male feminism. You see two adults acknowledging their own team has fuxxed up.
The me-too moment seems contrived because when people bring up child abuse happening now and not some guy who made you feel uncomfortable 10 years ago they sit on their hands
