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JFK Assassination Stabilized Motion Panorama HD Nix v Zapruder - 60th anniversary 

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(best viewed in 1080pHD) ... in this clip, the lower 'Zapruder' segment has been mirrored, to allow a comparison of the scene, motion, and people with the upper segment filmed by Orville Nix from the opposite side of the motorcade (on Main Street - foreground roadway of Nix portion, background no traffic roadway in the Zapruder portion)
an alternate scanned-from-film Nix motion panorama, with some more zoomed in views is at
• JFK Assassination Orvi...
Abraham Zapruder is the very dark figure standing on the white concrete pedestal, top right of frame
playback rate is 18 frames per second
the full Zapruder motion panorama, encoded to playback both in realtime (18 fps), is at ...
• JFK Assassination Zapr...
another more zoomed in version, encoded to playback both in realtime (18 fps) and at 1/3 speed (6 fps) is ..
• JFK Assassination Zapr...
a 30 fps slow motion version of the Zapruder motion panorama is at ...
• JFK Assassination Zapr...
a later scanned version of the Nix film is at ....
• JFK Assassination Orvi...
Marie Muchmore's short clip of the assassination in stabilized motion panorama format is ...
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@antdavisonNZ
@antdavisonNZ 3 года назад
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@-danR
@-danR 2 года назад
This video is one of the graphic demonstrations of something that has bothered me for the past 10 years: Jackie's final stretch to the back of the limo is different in the two films. And it's not something about angles, perspective or foreshortening. She is visibly stretched out almost _fully_ in the Nix footage and more kneeling in the Zapruder. And it is perfectly clear that in N. her hand is within inches of the back of the trunk, but it must be a foot away in Z. I don't know how to account for this. If the phenomenon is a real record of an actual disparity, it could only be explained by some ~2 seconds missing from Z. But how would that be possible with in early 60's film editing? It would require a re-splicing and morphing of her, Clint, the limo, the signs and the road to bring the gap together seamlessly.
@piecingtogethergamingpcs
@piecingtogethergamingpcs Год назад
Seems like a shot comes at 0:08 of the top film, there is a guy standing on that wall, I believe based on the angles this is the camera man Zapruder of the bottom flim and in those bushes to our left and his right in the top film, you can see a muzzle flash coming from them at 0:08. It also seems like there are frames missing from the bottom film, so 08 of the top, would be 313 of the bottom clip. One thing I'm very sure of is that there is a shot that comes at 0:08 from inside those bushes. and someone is hiding between the wall and the back of the bushes. Someone took the head shot from there and then just hid out in those bushes till the cost was clear and everyone had left. By this time kennedy has taken his throat shot already. I think oswald shot him in the throat from the book reposatry and at 0:08 he is shot from the bushes I mentioned in the front of the head!
@seventhson9441
@seventhson9441 Год назад
​ @piecingtogethergamingpcs ​ piecingtogethergamingpcs I just discovered a Flash, 2 days ago. The reason I was looking for something is , I know a muzzle shockwave, causes a 1 frame blur on a video. This Blur is at the 29 frame of Nix. Watch that lady's leg disappear, who is standing next to Zapruder at frame 29 !!!! But I also see that lady with the black hair, screen right. at 01, Her hair is blurry. maybe a shot then ! The Dictaphone recording from the motorcycle, and eye witnesses seem to indicate 2 shots about the time of the head shot.. - Go to ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ydQtC0m_xzc.html&ab_ channel=antdavisonNZ [ JFK Assassination Orville Nix Stabilized Motion Panorama HD - 52nd anniversary ] To see the flash looking thing, just left of Zapruder in that dark area, straight up from the front windshield. Just above the cement wall, in the center of that dark area. - On the frame identification just right of the film,..At Frame 30 At Vid lines,.... 0:01 0:08 0:15 0:22 0:28, Just above that "/" right after the word, "user" near the top of the screen !! its kinda pinkish ! 0:35 0:42 0:49, same place, just above that, " / " ,
@7071t6
@7071t6 Год назад
check this one out champ, ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-L1-TBfbTUdQ.html
@7071t6
@7071t6 8 месяцев назад
I believe that the timing is off with nix v's z film frames just a little?✌👍👌😀
@wxdude1964
@wxdude1964 3 года назад
What's curious is Zapruder never said he heard a shot from over his shoulders or to his right. That's something you wouldn't miss hearing.
@markscarborough7580
@markscarborough7580 3 года назад
Yes, many witnesses didn’t miss it.
@Anthony-cc3cy
@Anthony-cc3cy 3 года назад
in an interview he said he heard a shot
@icebergs411
@icebergs411 2 года назад
Said it was from behind. He never had his back to the TSBD when shots were being fired.
@johnreid4093
@johnreid4093 6 лет назад
forgot to ask do frames cut from the Nix film collaborate that frames from zapruder have been taken out?
@violinmerchant
@violinmerchant 2 года назад
I appreciate you putting these together in aggregate like this, in various formats and stabilized, as well as providing the relevant technical information. It helps answer a lot of the "what about" questions that pop up for an average viewer like myself and makes for a very convenient and navigable resource.
@johncostella
@johncostella 11 лет назад
Again, excellent work, mate. This clip is perfect for showing how the creators of the extant films eliminated motorcycle cop Chaney passing the presidential limo and motoring up to the lead car, as testified by impeccable government witnesses in that car. It's also the first time I've clearly seen the bystanders in the Nix against a stationary background. Excellent work!
@CNCTEMATIC
@CNCTEMATIC 2 года назад
Dear John - where would you suggest people look to see odd things happening with Chaney? (Is he the cop to the left of the limo, with one further cop to his left?) Many thanks for your work.
@antdavisonNZ
@antdavisonNZ 11 лет назад
thanks for the google map, and the challenging debate. If i can find a 3D computer model of the scene or some accurate geo-spatial data, I would love to do a camera match move of the two films. The Nix panorama was easy to stitch together, as it is short and has lots of matching points, Zapruder was a lot more difficult … particularly the foreground freeway sign & lamppost, and the middle section (from the camera-men cluster to where the Commerce Street cars are visible)
@Spherian7
@Spherian7 10 лет назад
Thanks again, Mark. Besides my reply below we'll go on this more in a bit
@Disneypixartuners
@Disneypixartuners 10 месяцев назад
On the nix film u can see zapruder filming
@prullebak1
@prullebak1 7 лет назад
Thanks that's very nice, I'll use it as starting point for further examination! How did you put it together?
@antdavisonNZ
@antdavisonNZ 7 лет назад
photoshop composite with hundreds of smart layers (one layer per frame)
@prullebak1
@prullebak1 7 лет назад
Ah OK, so you used a panorama photo stitch type of editing function? Good idea!
@antdavisonNZ
@antdavisonNZ 7 лет назад
frames manually aligned, automated techniques didn't give good enough results
@justthink5854
@justthink5854 4 года назад
@@antdavisonNZ very well done! Nix and Z show the same thing at the head hit. the head and throat HITS came from the south knoll (yes something happened at the GK, but no hits and maybe a diversion) parking lot close to the overpass. the hits line up from there, www.jfksouthknollgunman.com/index.php/01-2-altgens/
@Spherian7
@Spherian7 10 лет назад
I appreciate your objection - that's a best part of RU-vid. Our guy is first seen Z348 halfway to the ground. By Z-356 he is tund and completely stable except for the controversial left arm. Setting that aside, we find total time for the move is 8-9 frames . That's 1/2 second. I continue below.
@Spherian7
@Spherian7 10 лет назад
Yes, the films are altered. I'm granting Mark full credit for his rebuttal thus far, and I will further indicate the correctness within his objection to arm movement discrepancies but in relation to the impossible speed of movement of the figure in question and the other very strong aspects of doctoring. Am working on study of whether the main reporter Dallas AM News, Hugh Aynesworth, was in Dealey as claimed, but will be back on this in a minute. Thanks for your support - we're far from alone.
@redneckchester6105
@redneckchester6105 Год назад
Your comment is just plain silly. The films-none of them-are altered. The Nix and Zapruder cameras were not recording at the same speed. You cannot judge the differences in arm movement from two films that were recorded at two different speeds. Furhermore, there are clearer copies of the Nix film out there. The one used in this partuclar video is not as sharp and clear as others online.
@lydiab823
@lydiab823 11 дней назад
Here are two documentaries on the chain of custody and potential alterations of the Zapruder film. The Zapruder Film Mystery. m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-J_QIuu6hsAc.html&pp=ygUZVGhlIHphcHJ1ZGVyIGZpbG0gbXlzdGVyeQ%3D%3D Documentaire: L’image 313. m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dZed8cNAu10.html&pp=QACIAgE%3D&rco=1
@Spherian7
@Spherian7 10 лет назад
I certainly respect that. You were quite correct in your comment that his arm does continue to move across in Zap. as I found looking at the area between sprocket holes. And, I can grant the higher angle of Zap vs street level Nix can make his arm coming across look higher in Nix. Something's not right, tho, and even acting panicked I couldn't do the move in under 2 seconds myself. I feel certain frames were removed from other artifacts in the film, so this may explain the cat-on-speed effect.
@justthink5854
@justthink5854 4 года назад
Nix and Z show the same thing at the head hit. the head and throat HITS came from the south knoll (yes something happened at the GK, but no hits and maybe a diversion) parking lot close to the overpass. the hits line up from there, www.jfksouthknollgunman.com/index.php/01-2-altgens/
@MassiveTaTas
@MassiveTaTas 6 лет назад
I noticed something strange. This sign that blocked the initial shot in the Zapruder film can't be seen in these other films.
@justthink5854
@justthink5854 4 года назад
it focuses on the head hit time frame for both Z and Nix. Nix and Z show the same thing at the head hit. the head and throat HITS came from the south knoll (yes something happened at the GK, but no hits and maybe a diversion) parking lot close to the overpass. the hits line up from there, www.jfksouthknollgunman.com/index.php/01-2-altgens/
@BKJ2023
@BKJ2023 Год назад
​@@justthink5854 link is dead
@justthink5854
@justthink5854 Год назад
@@BKJ2023 this explains it all ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-c8emNECYgmg.html
@BKJ2023
@BKJ2023 Год назад
@@justthink5854 wow, thank you for getting back so quickly
@justthink5854
@justthink5854 Год назад
@@BKJ2023 in addition it answers the question of: why all the wild misses mixed with world class hits? excuse the robot voice. my friend is from the UK and this is the result of many trips from the UK to Dallas, NO over a 6 yr period. any questions please ask him on his utube. and give it a "like"
@FD_and_B
@FD_and_B 2 года назад
anyone notice how this doesn't come up when you search zapruder film on youtube? it's just the scene from the oliver stone movie.
@skellez83
@skellez83 5 лет назад
In Zapruder's the motorcade's slowing down is less apparent.
@justthink5854
@justthink5854 4 года назад
because he was closer than Nix and panned the limo. Nix and Z show the same thing at the head hit. the head and throat HITS came from the south knoll (yes something happened at the GK, but no hits and maybe a diversion) parking lot close to the overpass. the hits line up from there, www.jfksouthknollgunman.com/index.php/01-2-altgens/
@Spherian7
@Spherian7 10 лет назад
Right! In Nix, left arm comes high across neck & arcs downward after semi-seated position attained. In Zap he lunges body front facing downward and right arm stops momentum, provides support for body turn to semi-sitting final pose. But his left arm is held low against beltline and is there in last visible frame. Nix arm movement for balance is realistic, but in Zap he's front toward ground to frame 352 but completely turned and stable by 356 = 1/4 sec, 'way too fast. If error, please tell me.
@crock500
@crock500 9 лет назад
hello, good job my friend so after watching the movie Nix, one can say that the murderers were not behind zapruder and Marilyn Sitzman?
@justthink5854
@justthink5854 4 года назад
Nix and Z show the same thing at the head hit. the head and throat HITS came from the south knoll (yes something happened at the GK, but no hits and maybe a diversion) parking lot close to the overpass. the hits line up from there, www.jfksouthknollgunman.com/index.php/01-2-altgens/
@brownstar38
@brownstar38 4 года назад
The women in the black coat/ dress standing behind the couple wearing blue and red jackets is missing in the Zepruder film, also the couple that back pedals wearing a baby blue shirt and white sweater are missing. In the Zepruder film the couple with the little boy, the blonde woman never leaves her husbands side, but in the Nix film she reacts and pulls away from her husband.
@radar0412
@radar0412 Год назад
The woman in the Brown overcoat appeared to have the best and most horrifying view of JFK'S fatal head shot. She seemed visibly shaken, and backed away instantaneously.
@redneckchester6105
@redneckchester6105 Год назад
The Newman couple on the opposite side of the street had the best and most horrifying view if the fatal shot. They were one car lane away from the car when JFK was stuck in the head, and they were on JFK's side of the car. Also, the two motorcycle officers next to JFK had an even more horrifying view.
@radar0412
@radar0412 Год назад
The guy in the blue shirt and his wife were visibly startled by the fatal head shot as well. As well as the guy on the ground backpedaling on all fours. If there's an interview with any of the civilians in this video I've never seen it.
@redneckchester6105
@redneckchester6105 Год назад
@@radar0412 The man who drops to the ground and backpeddles is Malcolm Summers. He appeared in the 1988 "Nova "Who Shot President Kennedy?". The couple i.e. "guy in the blue shirt and his wife" in the film took off running south and are captured in the Mark Bell film, hunched over running for cover just feet away from in front of him as he filmed the motorcade traveling into the underpass.
@mc5967
@mc5967 4 месяца назад
Pretty sure that was Jackie actually
@yeees123
@yeees123 11 лет назад
are you absolutely sure you didn't do a mistake there? Will I get the same result if i will try to do panorama? Otherwise, fantastic piece of work!
@antdavisonNZ
@antdavisonNZ 11 лет назад
you can check the sync between the two clips by comparing the actions of the secret serviceman as he jumps between the following car and the presidential limosine
@antdavisonNZ
@antdavisonNZ 11 лет назад
the black coat woman on the far left of nix is totally missing from zapruder; there are more people in the cluster closest and to the right of the freeway sign in nix than in zapruder
@7071t6
@7071t6 8 лет назад
Wheres the old lady in the nix film which you dont see in the Z frame at the end ? Also in the muchmoore film again you have 3 men on the steps & yet in the nix film theres only 2 men ? 1 Man can not move that fast while nix was filming & even Orville nix said that his film was altered & frames were missing. :)
@MbeyaIsHome
@MbeyaIsHome 8 лет назад
behind the "z-film" labels like "315". See the boy near the street, and the couple in front of him at the top of the picture? Now see the bottom of the frame, spot the boy and the couple behind where the guy is falling down. The angle is sharp here in the z-film film, and there is no angle in the Nix film.
@7071t6
@7071t6 8 лет назад
Klm Martinson What about the running man in the Z film, it looks like if you look at the pascal film you will notice more changes as well ?
@CzechMirco
@CzechMirco 8 лет назад
There are in fact three men on the steps. The Nix film gets them into the frame more than a second after the fatal head shot, so they have already started to react. From the other films and photos their reactions are: the man in the red shirt at the front jerks his body downwards as if he wanted to duck, but then straightens up, looks back at the man in a cap and starts to climb the steps up past the man in the cap. The man in the cap was the calmest of them all (his name is Emmet Hudson a groundskeeper of Dealey Plaza), he stood there calmly and only later turned slowly to climb the steps up. Now the third man reacted almost as fast as the red shirt man and started climbing the steps up almost immediately and pretty fast. He is already partially in the shadows when the Nix film gets him into the frame but you can still see his back and his butt lit by the sunlight as he disappears into the shadow.
@justthink5854
@justthink5854 4 года назад
@@7071t6 this is to show the head hit not earlier in Z. Nix and Z show the same thing at the head hit. the head and throat HITS came from the south knoll (yes something happened at the GK, but no hits and maybe a diversion) parking lot close to the overpass. the hits line up from there, www.jfksouthknollgunman.com/index.php/01-2-altgens/
@mucher1
@mucher1 10 лет назад
Bill, the graphic is located here: oi41.tinypic.com\2r756ia.jpg. An easy mistake to make is assume the lampposts in the two films are the same (the one in Zapruder is farther down the road). It's important to appreciate the difference in perspective. The first step is to find a map and try to figure out where the cameras were located. For convenience, I used a map created by the late RB Cutler which already had these locations plotted in (the map isn't perfect, but good enough for our purposes).
@antdavisonNZ
@antdavisonNZ 11 лет назад
only spent a day piecing Nix together, but spent heaps more time on Zapruder which was alot more difficult to piece together as it is very jittery, so know that clip well
@g.private9101
@g.private9101 5 лет назад
I started out as a lone assassin believer after watching Peter Jenning's "Beyond conspiracy " Then I began watching "conspiracy theory films" became a firm believer in a conspiracy. Then I watched all the debunking of conspiracy films. Started to scratch my head in amazement, waivered in my opinions. Now I'm confused. Anyone else taken a similar journey?
@edgarallerman9187
@edgarallerman9187 5 лет назад
Forget everything they told you and just watch.
@TruthandjusticeXXL
@TruthandjusticeXXL 5 лет назад
Either the Zapruder film is faked or the Nix film is faked! I think that both movies are faked!
@edgarallerman9187
@edgarallerman9187 5 лет назад
@@TruthandjusticeXXL The film is real, the story is fake.
@kayejeyeracer
@kayejeyeracer 5 лет назад
Nope..conspiracy..the film is real..possibly manipulated..the story behind it..ALL FAKE..R.I.P.J.F.K.JUSTICE will find way!!
@keithspurgin8039
@keithspurgin8039 5 лет назад
Yes G. Private, I had the same sort of experience. At the beginning I believed what I was told; then read 'Rush to Judgement'. Gradually the various stand-out conspiracy themes began to be challenged: we're told someone replicated the three shots; the magic bullet could have been real; a rear shot could have produced a backward spasm, and so it continues. Now I don't have a solid opinion. I wasn't there, I didn't see it with my own eyes, the evidence is frequently blurred and based on hearsay. Lone Shooter vs Conspiracy, how can I judge? It even occurred to me that it might have been a case of Lone Shooter + Paranoid Secret Service.
@Lone_Coyote
@Lone_Coyote Год назад
Who is that man with a camera filming backing off? 0:10
@Stimor
@Stimor Год назад
I guess he is the guy who took that photo that caught the rear of the car after kennedy got hit
@redneckchester6105
@redneckchester6105 Год назад
He's James Altgens, of Associated Press, who took still photographs of the motorcade. One during the assassination, and one immediately after the last shot, showing Mrs. Kennedy and the Secret Service agent, Clint Hill, on the back of the car.
@Lone_Coyote
@Lone_Coyote Год назад
@@redneckchester6105 Thanks for the info!
@redneckchester6105
@redneckchester6105 Год назад
@@Lone_Coyote Sure thing!
@frostyeverclear
@frostyeverclear 2 года назад
This is fucked up! I feel bad for Jackie
@Spherian7
@Spherian7 10 лет назад
Proof of doctoring can also be found thanks to this awesome accomplishment by AntdavisionNZ. The guy in center panorama throws himself to ground in Zap with his LEFT arm going straight downward 1st, arresting his momentum and providing pivot for his turn (in 1/3rd sec), never leaves ground. In Nix film, tho, his left hand and arm swing high across his chest and then downward in an arc AFTER he has attained his semi-seated position. It's extremely clear and a discrepancy impossible to ignore.
@mucher1
@mucher1 10 лет назад
Not sure what this has to do with Zapruder and Nix, but how would Crenshaw know where Aynesworth was or wasn't at the time of the assassination, and why would an identifiable image of Aynesworth in DP necessarily exist?
@7071t6
@7071t6 9 лет назад
the main aspect of both the films that dont match is Jackies movement's, she does not get out all the way on the trunk & start's to move back in by herself, yet in the NIX film & compared to the z film it does not match at all, more proof that the films were altered & more importantly if you look at the 25% speed of the nix film you can clearly see where they edited out the areas of the back of the jfk car, look it up for yourself & put the speed of upload to slower again &use the large screen & you will see what i am talking about it's a square area that has just grass above the trunk of jfk's car ? also the follow up car's massive Siren & red light which on the left side of the car, cant even be seen in the nix film at all ?
@yeshechangchub6914
@yeshechangchub6914 9 лет назад
7071t6 WHY WOULD THEY alter and freeze Jackies' movements on the trunk on the z film? thanks
@7071t6
@7071t6 9 лет назад
Yeshe Changchub 11221963 I dont know, all i know is what i see with my own eyes & anyone can see that ?Jackie does not go all the way out to the back of GG-300 she got a part of the back of jfk's skull & she had that part & gave it to the Dr's & said this might help. but the main point is that the NIX film if you closer just before & just after the head shot the areas just above jfk/jackie etc is blurred & was altered, you can see it as plain as day, the grass & the shapes of jfk's head & jackie is also a little to big compared to the est of the people next to them, even Orville nix said there was frames & a lot of film that was a cut & paste job when he got it back ? Yet the only film in history that shows what happened to jfk in elm st that day was kept from the public for over 12 years & by then the first gen copy was already altered, they seen the original that SAT, but by Friday they already had a copy sent to Rochester Kodaks R&D center for the CIA to get altered & then they sent a double 8 mm film back to Zapruder as if to say that is the original, but again, i believe that Dan Rather did see a totally different film that weekend, after all how could you miss the Back to the Left, i believe the motion of jfk is consistent of a frontal shot to the temple from the Right front about 30 meters along the fence line re: Also the Fort worth sign in the Z frames is right next to the corner of where the steps are, yet in the NIX & Muchmoore films the Fort worth sign is at least 10 to 20 ft away from the step's so both films were altered full stop ? Also Bronson film shows no man standing up in the follow up car Queen Mary at all re: if you think that Hicky shot jfk by accident ?
@7071t6
@7071t6 11 лет назад
Spot on mate, but still very good work, i believe the part of Clint hill getting on the back & just before the stemmons sign areas R the most important areas to look at, especialy when you look at the Nix film, where R the sproket hole areas in that film, as a matter of fact all the film's so we can compare them,with what in the area & also to prove to the world, that the films were alterd, re: altgens in the sproket hole areas just before Zframe 300, how when zapurder has not panned there yet ?
@7071t6
@7071t6 8 месяцев назад
Also notice at the start, where the lady with the light brown dress, there's no people behind her, yet the z film frames at that point clearly shows people behind her ,the nix film and z film were altered ,but because both films were not seen by the same people, they did not know what to take out and what to put in? z 328 man moving yet not seen in nix film f 38, z frame 348 ,shows two people standing in the background, tey nix frame 58 no people there at all, one man, but not moving, Also melcom sommers the man falling down in the nix frame, he is not moving, the z frame is showing that he is dropped to the ground z f 348 v's nix f 58 he is on the ground completely and not moving at all, i think the timing is way off, but the people in both films should be seen full stop? So the films were altered and edited ? Nix f 78 should show in z f 369 ,the old lady in the background, but nope?
@Cooliobeansio27
@Cooliobeansio27 7 месяцев назад
Agreed theres so many discrepancies, so many people missing or not moving or extra people that there arent in the other, ive even noticed some peoples clothes are different. I dont know how i havent seen anyone else talking about how you can match these videos up and see exactly where it was edited. In addition you can see in 009 of nix on the far right you can see mary (in the blue next to her friend in the red) who took the grassy knoll photo, is clearly standing in the street. where as in 299 Z shes in the grass and the woman seen walking is also much closer to the road in nix. Note also that marys friend’s testimony was altered in the warren report she has always said that her and mary stepped into the road to get closer and were in the road when the picture was taken, in the z film it seems like they are a still photo added in.
@7071t6
@7071t6 7 месяцев назад
@@Cooliobeansio27Also if you look up the z film in 4K you will see a white patch / dent on the trunk or boot of the car its right there where a bullet hit the trunk and or boot and thats the bullet which hit jfk in the back. cheers 🦘🦘👌👌✌✌
@outlaw3378
@outlaw3378 6 месяцев назад
Where is the follow up car in nix film
@7071t6
@7071t6 6 месяцев назад
@@outlaw3378 right behind the jfk car, you can see it stops, because that car had cruise control as well as the jfk car, its very hard to keep any car at that time at a speed and not hit the back of a car, maybe primitive cruise control but still worked IMHO ?🦘🦘👌👌✌✌👍👍
@mucher1
@mucher1 10 лет назад
I guess you missed a tiny detail: that the Z-film has been flipped here. What you call a "LEFT arm" is, anatomically speaking, a right arm.
@shahrdar
@shahrdar 11 лет назад
Can you see the smoke trail in the area that Zapruder was standing?
@jacobji555
@jacobji555 11 лет назад
The Bell film shows the lead car & limo together at the entrance to the bridge. But no DPD Chaney. Chaney is on video "DPD Jim Chaney, ABC's Bill Lord 11/22/63" saying what he did. There is no Pyracantha bush near Zapruder on the Nix film. Should be a clear view to the bridge without it. The bush may have been planted later and incorporated into the edited Z film as a transition screen.
@yeees123
@yeees123 11 лет назад
Why odd? Zapruder and Nix are at different angles, isn't this parallax? Zapruder sees different people behind and in front of the limo at the same time. Couldn't it be that?
@mucher1
@mucher1 10 лет назад
I suspect that you're a bit confused. People are "missing" in the Z film only because the two films don't cover the same patch of grass (case in point: the aforementioned "lady in black").
@timstter1
@timstter1 11 лет назад
It's well done but wouldn't it be better to do a comparison with the Zapruder film not in reverse? Also the lady in black could NEVER appear in the Z film. She is too far back on the grass, way past the two sets of legs seen in the middle of your Z film panorama. Nice work, though, especially on Nix!
@Anjabro
@Anjabro Год назад
Wow, I'd no idea Nix had been cleaned up so well, good job. This just emphasises the success and failure of the day...... Success....Clint Hill was the only one to react, ran straight into what he had to assume was still the line of fire, and who knows, maybe prevented what would have been the ultimate horror to end the day, Jackie tumbling off the back as the limo sped off, and ending up sprawled in the road, screaming and covered in blood....😵 Good work Clint. Failure ...Bill Greer was inept to an unbelievable degree. One argument i always wondered about was that for the assassin, the first shot should be the best shot, it's the one he has time to steady himself for, prepare for, be calm and concentrated for.....and yet the final shot was the best...why..? Well, thank Bill Greer for that ....he slowed down to such a degree that the following car almost rear-ended the limo, all the outriders had to yank their brakes, a couple of them even stopped completely. The final shot was the best because it was at an almost stationary target. Nice one Bill.
@MyCityToronto1
@MyCityToronto1 Год назад
I believe Greer intentionally stopped the car just for a split second - to allow the grassy knoll shooter a clear shot. I believe he was given specific orders on where to bring the car to a brief stop and to immediately take off after the fatal headshot. If the car stopped a bit further ahead, it would have put Jackie Kennedy in the line of fire in the path of the bullet fired from the knoll and I'm sure the conspirators wanted to avoid that. JFK wasn't leaving Dealy Plaza alive. If JFK survived an attempted assassination, his security protocols would have been strengthened immensely - making it virtually impossible to get a second opportunity. They had to ensure his assassination on the first try and they needed help from the SS and Greer just so happened to be the driver tasked with bringing JFK into the kill zone.
@redneckchester6105
@redneckchester6105 Год назад
@@MyCityToronto1 No he didn't. He turned around to look over his shoulder, twice, and instinctively let his foot off the gas and slowed the limousine slightly. There was no one shooting from the front.
@CzechMirco
@CzechMirco 11 месяцев назад
@@MyCityToronto1 This is rambling of someone who has no idea how anything works, on organizational level, on mechanical level, on any level.
@jasonhunt007
@jasonhunt007 10 месяцев назад
@@MyCityToronto1unhinged gibberish
@IHIKML
@IHIKML 5 месяцев назад
@@MyCityToronto1The problem with your theory is that there wasn’t a shooter on the knoll.
@mucher1
@mucher1 10 лет назад
Well, you'll have to paste the address into the address (not search) bar of your browser. Again: did you understand what I said about lampposts? The one in Nix is #2 (counting from east to west starting at the Houston corner) and the one in Zapruder is #3, so we're not looking at exactly the same patch of grass in the two films.
@artherI046
@artherI046 10 лет назад
There are 6 people missing on the CIA film that are on the Nix film. Past the guy falling to the ground.
@TheSimMan
@TheSimMan 3 месяца назад
How many people featured in these two clips are still alive today?
@moonlightbay4814
@moonlightbay4814 2 месяца назад
At least 3, as of May 2024 - Clint Hill, Paul Landis and Mary Moorman. I guess the kids shown are also still alive.
@Spherian7
@Spherian7 10 лет назад
I absolutely guarantee you will get the details on my study. Dr Charles Crenshaw told me that when he had his press conference on "Conspiracy of Silence: when he said SS pulled guns to take the body, HA jumped up and shouted "YOU'RE A LIAR !" That's real sick. Dr Crenshaw told me HA was NOT in Dealey Plaza, so I searched all photos and films after HA wrote in Washington Times his exact location on Houston near Elm corner. Will it surprise you to know there is no image of him whatsoever?
@antdavisonNZ
@antdavisonNZ 11 лет назад
try a youtube downloader, then in quicktime player, arrow keys will be single frame advance
@artherI046
@artherI046 10 лет назад
That all you noticed? How about the 6 people missing on the CIA film (let's call it what it is since Zapruder belonged to 2 CIA organizations in Dallas). Look past the guy diving to the ground. The CIA film has 3 adults + boy. The Nix has 5 adults + boy. You can see all the way to the street on the CIA film. An enlarged Nix film shows it better. Then the mom & daughter hugging is also missing on the CIA film. Look to the 3rd guy right of diving man. His body separates.
@buassyoanntaylor3618
@buassyoanntaylor3618 Год назад
Why the president car slow down?
@IHIKML
@IHIKML 5 месяцев назад
Greer was ready for his lunch break.
@catspaw3815
@catspaw3815 3 месяца назад
To allow SS Agent Clint Hill to catch up and board the vehicle - ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gWEXZyMJMtA.html
@yeees123
@yeees123 11 лет назад
I figured it out. Nothing wrong here. This lady is NOT supposed to in Zapruder film. Look at were Zapruder is standing. This lady should appear in the left corner of the Zapruder film. You can confirm this easily. But look how BIG she is in the Nix film. She obviously too close to Nix therefore she is a little bit too far to left for Zapruder to catch her. THERE IS NO ALTERATION OF ZAPRUDER FILM AT LEAST THIS DOES NOT PROVE THERE IS. Thank you!
@antdavisonNZ
@antdavisonNZ 11 лет назад
kill shot is n24/z314, so the grassy knoll is out of nix's camera view at that time ... odd how people walk up the steps after the shot in the nix clip, and even more odd is different number of bystanders (compare the left halves)
@artherI046
@artherI046 10 лет назад
There are 6 people missing on the CIA film. Look past the man falling to the ground. the Nix film shows them.
@mucher1
@mucher1 10 лет назад
I'm sorry, but all six people are visible in the Zapruder film: the Frazen family, the "gin and tonic man" and the couple whose legs are visible in the background of Z-346 (and surrounding frames). Had you bothered to look at my graphic, you would have realized that it's the couple standing in location ②. Don't you feel stupid now?
@littletimmythefifth29
@littletimmythefifth29 Год назад
Here at 88,732 views.
@7071t6
@7071t6 Год назад
90K views march 4th 2023?
@Infans_Sine_Amore
@Infans_Sine_Amore 16 дней назад
who is the umbrella man?
@antdavisonNZ
@antdavisonNZ 11 лет назад
have a look at the National Geographic scanned and restored version, there is a reference to it in the ABOUT section for this clip … source for this clip is a 1990's telecined videotape version, which was subsequently digitally and heavily compressed, so detail gets lost in the aggressive predictive algorithms … better version but shorter from the same side of the street is the Marie Muchmore film … see my VIDEOs
@yeees123
@yeees123 11 лет назад
This is what fooled me first. But this is not the same part of the Main street those two cameras see. I can send you an image that illustrates this nicely.
@wxdude1964
@wxdude1964 3 года назад
Zapruder must be wearing black cause you really can't seem him and the woman keeping him steady must be behind him.
@CzechMirco
@CzechMirco 3 года назад
Well he actually was wearing a dark suit that day. But you can still see them, for example either his or hers shoulder obscures a bit of the pergola pillar behind them.
@rh_BOSS
@rh_BOSS 9 лет назад
People seem to forget that those are 3d object in 3d space, shown from 2 different point of views. Background and foreground objects won't appear simultaneusly on both films and line up the same way due to parallax. Keep that in mind when you analyze relative positions of Jackie and Clint Hill. With that said, I lean to the idea that Z film was altered. But these panoramas sync up so perfectly, that I'll have to rethink some of my points. Stemmons freeway sign in Z film is still fishy as hell, though.
@justthink5854
@justthink5854 4 года назад
this is to show how Z and Nix show the same thing. Nix and Z show the same thing at the head hit. the head and throat HITS came from the south knoll (yes something happened at the GK, but no hits and maybe a diversion) parking lot close to the overpass. the hits line up from there, www.jfksouthknollgunman.com/index.php/01-2-altgens/
@rh_BOSS
@rh_BOSS 4 года назад
​@@justthink5854 Dude, I've realized that Oswald did it a couple of months after writing that comment. CT community is just one big echo chamber with nothing of substance in it. Whoever made that site based their analysis on an incorrect model of JFK's limo.
@justthink5854
@justthink5854 4 года назад
@@rh_BOSS dunno what you mean about the model. and Oswald never fired a shot that day. did you know they printed him THEN made the paraffin test? have you read dr Perry's and Kiduff's transcripts? i doubt it.
@rh_BOSS
@rh_BOSS 4 года назад
@@justthink5854 Oswald's negative paraffin test isn't some be-all end-all silver bullet argument. Have you ever googled "paraffin test false negative"? I doubt it. Connally wasn't sitting directly in front of JFK as in that toy car. His jump seat was several inches lower and closer to the middle of the car.
@justthink5854
@justthink5854 4 года назад
@@rh_BOSS so the throat and head hits are from the front. you don't think so. lol again check out dr Perry's transcript of his first interview saying entry 3 times describing the throat wound and Kilduff's transcript of his interview being given info from dr Burkley who was in the emergency room saying bullet entry into the rt temple. both pressers about 1 hr after jfk pronounced dead.
@futuremath08
@futuremath08 6 месяцев назад
I don't know much about photography, but I saw a presentation from Jack White from 2013, and he used a technique called bracketed exposure to enhance a photograph taken by a gentleman named Charles Bronson (not the actor). In the enhanced photograph, which was taken from the south side of the plaza, you could see Zapruder and his secretary standing on the pedestal, but it appeared that the secretary was standing in front of Zapruder, and his camera was pointed at her chest. If that is a true representation of what occurred, then it's possible that Zapruder's film is not completely authentic. I wonder whether it would possible to somehow enhance frames of the Nix film that show the grassy knoll using bracketed exposure so that the knoll area would not be so dark. As I said, I know very little about photography, so perhaps someone with expertise could comment.
@antdavisonNZ
@antdavisonNZ 6 месяцев назад
look around frame 380, man's leg motion and sign with my name credit on it
@mucher1
@mucher1 10 лет назад
Listen, tough guy, when they come into view of Zapruder's lens, husband and son are already standing a bit closer to the street than Mrs. Franzen, who then steps even farther back and away from the other two. This movement continues when she's picked up by Nix's camera a fraction of a second later. Continuity. There is no conflict, except in your conspiracy-loving mind.
@antdavisonNZ
@antdavisonNZ 11 лет назад
very informative, thank you
@mucher1
@mucher1 11 лет назад
Nonsense. The four motorcycles that escorted the limo are all visible in Nix. We can see Chaney's coming to a stop immediately after the head shot, and we know from his statements that he paused long enough to see Hargis get off his bike and cross the street in front of him.
@7071t6
@7071t6 11 лет назад
It's unbelievable how much the GG-300 Nose dip's down when you look at it in the nix film, like i have always said the car did stop, just 2 heart beat's thats it, but at the same time, the car speeds up all of a sudden, the issue i am trying to make is that a lot of frames were taken out to complete this, which is why the Stemmon's sign came into it re: as John costella said & the st light as well, they simply dont match up, also the sproket hole areas & images in them ?
@mucher1
@mucher1 10 лет назад
Sorry, old buddy, but you'll have to do better than that. Mrs. Franzen is clearly moving to the left, from Nix's POV, relative to the guy seen standing closer to the curb. Re: "woman hugging her daughter". You must be talking about the "lady in black" whom I dealt with, pretty conclusively, in this graphic: oi41.tinypic.com\2r756ia.jpg. The motion blur make Z-frames 402-4 a bit confusing, but I've made an animated GIF to help you interpret them: oi44.tinypic.com/13z96rb.jpg.
@mucher1
@mucher1 10 лет назад
Not sure what you mean by "yahoo search". Posting complete URLs is not allowed here, so you'll have to add the h t t p part yourself (if your browser doesn't do so automatically). Yes, the woman does not appear in the Z-film, and I've explained why. Did you understand what I said about lampposts? Feel free to do your own analysis (it ain't rocket science) in case you don't believe me.
@kxkxkxkx
@kxkxkxkx Год назад
Good video... Butt this is the stupidest comment section I've ever seen 😂😂😂
@JonathanToth
@JonathanToth 3 года назад
What I notice the most is the slowing down of the limo. It appears as if the driver slowed down until the headshot happened, then he sped away. SS agents are trained to avoid gunfire or "fire crackers," not slow down. This driver braked until the objective was obtained, and then he left. William Greer is complicit.
@markscarborough7580
@markscarborough7580 3 года назад
No come on! It didn’t stop, it sped up at the first sound. the windows were all closed, the SS agents on the QM2 swarmed the President at the first bang, the SS agent riding shotgun didn’t just sit and watch as the President took fire. It’s all in our imagination.
@JonathanToth
@JonathanToth 3 года назад
​@@markscarborough7580 "Once the government lies, it has to keep lying." -James Files
@TVC15ohoh
@TVC15ohoh 3 года назад
@@JonathanToth That's like saying, "Once a person tells one lie, that person has to lie about everything." It's just a clever cliché you've quoted, Jonathan. It's overly broad and not applicable to all government in all circumstances at all times. Give it up. You show signs of paranoia. Maybe you should see a therapist - and I'm not saying that as a putdown or to take a crack at you. You're engaging in paranoid, conspiracist thinking. PERIOD. Just because you think something doesn't automatically make it true.
@JonathanToth
@JonathanToth 3 года назад
@@TVC15ohoh exactly
@IwshIcldstrtover
@IwshIcldstrtover 3 года назад
@@JonathanToth And you actually fall for what Files says? Please...
@mucher1
@mucher1 11 лет назад
You're confused. The lamppost in N-82 and the lamppost in Z-370 are not the same. Look at the map again and remember to put on your thinking cap this time.
@billcarson345
@billcarson345 10 лет назад
I swiped and pasted your oi41.tinypic.com\2r756ia.jpg to the yahoo search, but got no further with it. I went to tinypic.com and tried to put in your 2r756ia or 2r756ia.jpg in the images search. Nothing. Again, it does not matter what graph or map someone made. The woman and her child are missing on the zapruder film.
@jacobji555
@jacobji555 10 лет назад
There are 4 people missing. Not 6.
@mucher1
@mucher1 10 лет назад
That "cartoon" graphic is obviously very upsetting to you. What is it about the truth that scares you so much?
@Spherian7
@Spherian7 10 лет назад
It's not related, but certainly the question how Dr Crenshaw would or would not know if HA was in Dealey is not known, as I did not even ask. I trust no one's word, and thus the search was for photos and films that showed the place he stated he was standing when the limo passed him in front of TSBD. That would be directly in the center of the the County Records Building. All photos and films show no HA. That's newsworthy, and I am sending to his publisher and Washington Times he writes for.
@johnreid4093
@johnreid4093 6 лет назад
i think frames are removed form Zapruder at 228-233 302-303 and 316-317 in fact a hole in the back of the head appears between the two latter and is blanked out in frame 318
@justthink5854
@justthink5854 4 года назад
remember you are looking at digitized images of film Nix and Z show the same thing at the head hit. the head and throat HITS came from the south knoll (yes something happened at the GK, but no hits and maybe a diversion) parking lot close to the overpass. the hits line up from there, www.jfksouthknollgunman.com/index.php/01-2-altgens/
@Malakawaka
@Malakawaka 2 года назад
For me it's clear these 2 videos don't synchronize at the moment Jackie touches Clint, and from there on. It's great work because it's shown as going the same direction.
@claytonbigsby
@claytonbigsby 5 месяцев назад
The Muchmore film shows (concrete steps) Emmett Hudson not moving while the 2 younger looking guys jump out of their skin. The Nix film shows them all jumping. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gWEXZyMJMtA.html
@moonlightbay4814
@moonlightbay4814 2 месяца назад
Both films show exactly the same reaction. Its just that these 3 people remain in frame longer in the Nix film than they do in the Muchmore film.
@claytonbigsby
@claytonbigsby 2 месяца назад
@@moonlightbay4814 It is exactly how you describe it. The reactions of Emmett Hudson and the other 2 gentlemen who were beside him at the instant of the headshot plus Emmett Hudson's WC testimony prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that there was a second shooter.
@moonlightbay4814
@moonlightbay4814 Месяц назад
@@claytonbigsby No, they don't. Why would these people, on hearing the shots, run towards the place where they thought the shooter was? Here is Emmett Hudson's WC testimony... Mr. LIEBELER. After you heard these three shots and saw the President get hit in the head, you turned around and you ran up on the little knoll there and you got away. Mr. HUDSON. Yes. Mr. LIEBELER. While you were standing there, did you ever look up toward the railroad tracks there where they went across the triple underpass? Mr. HUDSON. No, sir; while I was laying there I didn’t-I was looking down towards Elm Street. Mr. LIEBLER. So, you never looked up towards the railroad tracks that went across the underpass? Mr. HUDSON. No, sir. Mr. LIEBELER. But you are quite sure in your own mind that the shots came from the rear of the President’s car and above it ; is that correct? Mr. HUDSON. Yes. Mr. LIEBELEK Did you have any idea that they might have come from the Texas School Book Depository Building? Mr. HUDBON. Well, it sounded like it was high, you know, from above and kind of behind like in other words, to the left. Mr. LIEBELER. And that would have fit in with the Texas School Book Depository, wouldn’t it? Mr. HUDSON. Yes.
@artherI046
@artherI046 10 лет назад
The 18fps is another lie. It was filmed at Slow Motion 48 fps.
@mucher1
@mucher1 10 лет назад
I can count only one pair of (yellow-tinted) legs, but whether there is a child in there or not, what is it that you find so disagreeable about my modest graphic? Please be as specific as you can... merely calling it a "fraud" (among other childish taunts) doesn't quite cut it, you know, especially as I have had to school you in some pretty basic stuff.
@billcarson345
@billcarson345 10 лет назад
I did that part. Nothing found. Anyway, as I said before, I saw all the way up to Main St on a Zapruder film just like the guy arthur said he did. The woman and her kid are missing. The Mrs franzen woman is next to her husband with entwined arms on the Zapruder, and about 8 ft away on the Nix. So either or both films were changed, indicating the conspiracy was real.
@billcarson345
@billcarson345 10 лет назад
OK, after reading the back / forth of arther and mark I looked into all of this about missing people and who is where. My conclusion is that the guy arther who talks crappy is correct to a point. I can account for only 2 missing people; mom and child. I couldn't find the graphics from mark anywhere, although I did see the tinypic.com page. But anyone can make their own graphic which doesn't mean much.
@johnreid9959
@johnreid9959 6 лет назад
I feel the fatal shot came from the drain not on th same road as the motor fade but the drain on the road than can be seen in both films on the left middle of this video, so I believe the shooter would have been below and yo the left of Nix film by only 10-16feet ,nix can't be seen in the Zapruder film ,if you look at the two people in thr zapruder film, on the grass on the left (they got out of focus 5secinds in) just above the ladies head is the road,and just where the zapruder film iss cut at the top of the zapruder screen ,threw a small grass verge that seperates cars going the other way, this ic where a drain is, if you look at frame 313(frame 23 on the nix film a man with a white shirt is walking in the grass to wards the car in front id a old man close to the car, later in a Man dives to the floor,)just ba fore the white shirt man walks forward the shot would have passed between him, the old man at the verge and at the car, there's a wound down window next to Jackie, and Nellie coolant is quite a bit in front, JFKs head had turned to the left, as Jackie was looking at him, this is where it hit JFK in the left temple out the back same side of his head it actually pushed between frame 312-313 JFKs neck doen so his head goes in towards his neck, before hitting the back of the skull, which flips his head back, nick body then slumps back naturally afterwards
@kenb3552
@kenb3552 4 года назад
This is wrong on SO many levels. There were no wounds on the left side of JFK's head whatsoever. And not even the wildest conspiracy theorist have ever conjured up wounds on the left side of the head. And did this magical shot somehow magically pass through Jackie's head without doing any damage?? nuts.
@justthink5854
@justthink5854 4 года назад
​@@kenb3552 Nix and Z show the same thing at the head hit. the head and throat HITS came from the south knoll (yes something happened at the GK, but no hits and maybe a diversion) parking lot close to the overpass. the hits line up from there, www.jfksouthknollgunman.com/index.php/01-2-altgens/
@kenb3552
@kenb3552 4 года назад
@@justthink5854 - I fail to see a viable line of sight from the South knoll - which was very open and filled with people. And if it were from the South knoll, it would have to have been from the very Eastern most part and fairly close to the road to match up with the entry wound in the back of the head. It's just not viable. And there is NO way the back/throat shot came from that direction.
@justthink5854
@justthink5854 4 года назад
@@kenb3552 OK. you understand the south knoll is opposite the north or grassy knoll, right? doesn't seem so. and per the earliest reports, Dr Burkley who told Kilduff what to report at his presser, the wound was an entry at the front. the right temple. read the transcript and you can order the signed pdf from the LBJ library. the huge rear blow out was stated by all the attending docs and nurses at Parkland.
@_insertusername_2464
@_insertusername_2464 4 года назад
@@kenb3552 The headshot came from the sewer drain. Because JFK's head went UP and back. And the right side of his head was blown out.
@johnreid4093
@johnreid4093 6 лет назад
just looked ,looks like the motor cyclist catches up with the car in the nix film quicker than it catches up with the car in the Zaprduer film
@TruthandjusticeXXL
@TruthandjusticeXXL 5 лет назад
You haven't realized the most obvious fact. :-)
@justthink5854
@justthink5854 4 года назад
nope, and the head and throat HITS came from the south knoll (yes something happened at the GK, but no hits and maybe a diversion) parking lot close to the overpass. the hits line up from there
@markscarborough7580
@markscarborough7580 3 года назад
@@TruthandjusticeXXL the reason they caught up?
@mucher1
@mucher1 11 лет назад
I made this graphic, based on a Cutler map of DP, to better illustrate why the lady in black doesn't appear in the Z-film: oi41.tinypic.com\2r756ia.jpg
@marioruizdfw
@marioruizdfw 10 лет назад
In the original unaltered Zapruder film, you can see the driver turn around and shoot JFK, throws the gun out to the TWO suits, one is watching the second suit's back as the second CIA man in black (that is not a camera pointed at JFK's head) shoots JFK at almost the same time as the driver. The second man in black was taking pictures at first, but then slings out the riflle w/scope an blows JFK's head away. The young man behind the Kill Agent hits the grass like WTF!?!?! That's why Zapruder in a state of disbelief says "Oh my God-THEY killed him!"
@squatch545
@squatch545 10 лет назад
Wrong, in the original unaltered Zapruder film you can see two UFOs come down and shoot JFK with a laser beam and perform an anal probe on Jackie.
@Xan3119
@Xan3119 9 лет назад
Joe Smith lol
@mysticmrsam
@mysticmrsam 9 лет назад
conspiracy cult nonsense
@justthink5854
@justthink5854 4 года назад
Nix and Z show the same thing at the head hit. the head and throat HITS came from the south knoll (yes something happened at the GK, but no hits and maybe a diversion) parking lot close to the overpass. the hits line up from there, www.jfksouthknollgunman.com/index.php/01-2-altgens/
@kmitchell9891
@kmitchell9891 2 года назад
Thats a deep state fake, if you watch the REAL Zapruder film you will notice Tinkie-Winkie of the Teletubbies actually flies in on the back of a pterodactyl and throws candy too hard at JFK until he dies.
@Frip36
@Frip36 2 года назад
Who jumped on the back of the car and why?
@kmitchell9891
@kmitchell9891 2 года назад
A secret service agent, trying to protect the vehicles occupants.
@crouchingcaterpillar
@crouchingcaterpillar Год назад
His name is Clint Hill (still alive today) and he was Jackie's SS protection. He covered both JFK and Jackie since many agents were pulled off of JFK's limo. He got a very good look into JFK's skull. He knew and communicated that JFK was mortally wounded.
@IHIKML
@IHIKML 5 месяцев назад
⁠​⁠@@crouchingcaterpillarNo one was pulled of JFKs limo. He himself had the habit of telling them to «stand down» because he wanted to be close to the people without any SS agents to close.
@crouchingcaterpillar
@crouchingcaterpillar 5 месяцев назад
@@IHIKML I studied this topic for decades. JFK did like to interact. He liked people. But he was left in the wide open to the point that Jackie's agent was the first who could get there. When you study this assassination as intricately as I have this one for 45+ years, maybe your opinion will match facts.
@artherI046
@artherI046 11 лет назад
Video: "what they saw orville nix".
@7071t6
@7071t6 8 месяцев назад
Where is the old lady seen in the orville nix film near the main st/ elm st, not seen in the so called z film ,she should be visible ,as the z film frames, clearly shows that area, she should be standing right there, but nope, she is not there ,also not seen in the bell film? Also the two couple, one in the light blue top, both are not seen in the z film frames, also the man with the grey top is not seen in the z film frames compared to the orville nix film, right behind the chissoms, the little boy with the red top and the man and lady( chisholm family) people the films were edited /altered full stop?
@billcarson345
@billcarson345 10 лет назад
I did that h.t.t.p. Nothing found. Anyway, as I said before, I saw all the way up to Main St on a Zapruder film just like the guy arthur said he did. The woman and her kid are missing. The Mrs franzen woman is next to her husband with entwined arms on the Zapruder, and about 8 ft away on the Nix. So either or both films were changed, indicating the conspiracy was real.
@billcarson345
@billcarson345 10 лет назад
I did that h t t p. Nothing found. Anyway, as I said before, I saw all the way up to Main St on a Zapruder film just like the guy arthur said he did. The woman and her kid are missing. The Mrs franzen woman is next to her husband with entwined arms on the Zapruder, and about 8 ft away on the Nix. So either or both films were changed, indicating the conspiracy was real.
@IwshIcldstrtover
@IwshIcldstrtover 11 лет назад
Chaney slammed his brakes on and looked around the plaza before he took off for the lead car. He didn't take off until after the limousine entered into the underpass. You alterationalist's make me sick!
@mucher1
@mucher1 10 лет назад
I still find your argument re: the falling man rather weak. His pose in Z-356 doesn't seem particularly stable, as evidenced by his having to reposition his upper body (arm included) to regain balance. Perhaps you're also underestimating the effect panic can have on people, causing them to move faster than normal.
@izraulhidashi4323
@izraulhidashi4323 4 года назад
How come there's no muzzle flash from the pergola window? You know... where the real gunmen were. Right behind Zapruder. In the pergola. smh wtf is wrong with people?
@justthink5854
@justthink5854 4 года назад
Nix and Z show the same thing at the head hit. the head and throat HITS came from the south knoll (yes something happened at the GK, but no hits and maybe a diversion) parking lot close to the overpass. the hits line up from there
@izraulhidashi4323
@izraulhidashi4323 4 года назад
@@justthink5854 The throat shot comes from the back. You can see the reflection of the roof shooter in the Zapruder film. Top left hand side. You can see his muzzle flash a split second before Kennedy grabs his throat.
@izraulhidashi4323
@izraulhidashi4323 4 года назад
@@justthink5854 The fatal head shot comes from the pergola. One of the men was Eladio DeValle. I just confirmed it by reconstructing his face and matching his features.
@justthink5854
@justthink5854 4 года назад
@@izraulhidashi4323 nope wrong angle. not saying nothing happened there. too many people heard a shot or saw smoke or smelled it. Yarboough one. but shot(s) are not necessarily hits. a shot from there or the fence is the wrong angle. here's the throat hit. the head hit came later as the limo moved down Elm. www.jfksouthknollgunman.com/index.php/01-2-altgens/
@justthink5854
@justthink5854 4 года назад
@@izraulhidashi4323 no. you need to read the transcript of dr Perry's first presser he gave only 1 hr after JFK pronounced dead. he said it was a wound of ENTRY entry 3 times. it's in the site i just gave you that you obviously didn't look at. it's at the rear pages. dr Perry made the cut for the trach at JFK's throat.
@jacobji555
@jacobji555 10 лет назад
Film "JFK Nix Film stabilized analyzed enhanced". Freeze at 10:02. See sunlight in the back of the 3 men? But, NOT on this straight-line shadows film. Moorman #5 pic shows sunlight / sky behind them. Film "Nix at 25%". Freeze at 0:35. Boy is all black. Man on boys head. NO woman arm-in-arm with that man. Lone man in white shirt. Woman left of this man. 2 background man/woman between both streets. Woman/child by Main. Film “Hi quality footage of JFK Assassination”. Freeze at 1:24. Comment?
@markallensnow925
@markallensnow925 4 года назад
Strange that nobody noticed the fact that Jackie is still on the trunk of the limousine in the Nix Composite animation and is seated back in the limousine in the Zapruder animation. Advanced researchers know these are both cartoons made from cutouts and the public has never seen the real films.
@timosihvola5595
@timosihvola5595 3 года назад
your brain is a cartoon cutout
@JonathanToth
@JonathanToth 3 года назад
They line up here. What video are you speaking of?
@alexia4240
@alexia4240 3 года назад
No they were perfectly synced but I do think the z film was altered in some way
@markallensnow925
@markallensnow925 3 года назад
​@@alexia4240 The action fails to match between Zapruder and Nix because Jackie is still on the trunk only in the Nix film after the Fort Worth sign. She returns to the limousine seat in 4.5 seconds in the Zapruder composite animation. The limousine came to a complete stop ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Cx6hrWYfRZ8.html The proof that the limousine came to a complete stop is found in connecting Chief Curry's testamentary and DPD Chaney. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rFvE1QVvU54.html
@alexia4240
@alexia4240 3 года назад
@@markallensnow925 yeah ik it came to a complete stop but I didn't see any difference with the time jackie got on the trunk to when she got off
@mucher1
@mucher1 10 лет назад
What are you mumbling about? Frame numbers and plain English, please. What does "straight-line shadows film" mean?? Your "sunlight in the back of the 3 men [on the steps]" is nonsense (the position of the sun is known). The "all black" Franzen boy is standing in his dad's shadow. Mrs. Franzen is jumping back in horror. Feel free if you have any further questions, but please try to be somewhat coherent and precise. Not all of us are fluent in gibberish.
@jacobji555
@jacobji555 10 лет назад
CIA FRAUD FILMS. These films do not match. ZAPRUDER: after the fall-down-man there is a boy, dads hand on boys head, mom arm-in-arm with dad, lone man - NO ONE ELSE up to Main St. NIX: after the fall-down-man there is a boy, dads hand on boys head, NO MOM arm-in-arm with dad, lone man with woman, 2 more people together (NO MOM between them) half way back to Main St, woman near Main St. At 334 frame Zapruder, the man at mid-grass separates at the mid section. On the most recent Z films this is covered over.
@dangerouslytalented
@dangerouslytalented 10 лет назад
no, actually, they extrapolated all of the people from all the vantage points using 3D modelling. They are not in frame because they were not in the right place to be IN frame. And all the stabilised footage extrapolates the stuff that was hidden by sprocket holes, just like in this video.
@justthink5854
@justthink5854 4 года назад
@@dangerouslytalented correct! Nix and Z show the same thing at the head hit. the head and throat HITS came from the south knoll (yes something happened at the GK, but no hits and maybe a diversion) parking lot close to the overpass. the hits line up from there, www.jfksouthknollgunman.com/index.php/01-2-altgens/
@justthink5854
@justthink5854 3 года назад
no Z film shows a complete stop. it slowed from 12 mph to 6 mph. this is the genius of Ant D, showing both Z and Nix show the same thing. the head and throat hits came from the south knoll parking lot close to the overpass. yes something happened at the north or grassy knoll. shots may or may not be hits. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-c8emNECYgmg.html
@Spherian7
@Spherian7 10 лет назад
The arm movement in Nix appears natural, but the unnatural movement and speed of body reversal in Zapruder can't be done in real time. I'm in very good condition and have tried it. The guy was standing up, of course, and flinging oneself to the ground creates much of momentum which takes time to resolve. From halfway down to ground then the turn over to stable position takes a total of 2 seconds if one is fast. That's 36 frames in Zap's at 18 frames per sec camera
@Bendoverandgrabyourankles
@Bendoverandgrabyourankles 7 месяцев назад
Seen a better picture from google earth
@Simoz181
@Simoz181 2 года назад
These films dont show the car behind with hicks and his AR 15
@mucher1
@mucher1 11 лет назад
You're being extremely silly.
@jacobji555
@jacobji555 10 лет назад
mark ulrik is a liar. The films are altered. It is obvious when people are repositioned & missing. Read my comment to antdavisonNZ.
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