National Archives and Records Administration (Silent) JFK EXHIBIT 3: RECONSTRUCTION FILM Department of the Treasury. U.S. Secret Service. (1943 - 2003) ARC Identifier 13218 / Local Identifier 87.5.
I believe that was a missed first shot. That traffic light face plate was soon replaced too! That would probably be around the time the little girl (in the actual footage) stops running and JFK and Connally turn to the right.
Working from a pre-conceived narrative, the "theorists" tend to see bullets and bullet holes virtually *_everywhere_* And (magically) they're all definitely connected to the JFK assassination! What are the odds? 😝
I see a Ford Bronco in the traffic. It has to be at least 1966 (that was the first year, not sure what year that one is, 66,67,68). Probably 1966. It is at 13:36 in the video sitting in opposite traffic coming out of the triple underpass. NEVERMIND. Upon closer inspection that is a International Scout. So this could be 1963. Sorry. LOL! The Hertz sign on top of the depository said 57 degrees at 3:55 pm. I may aske A.I. if it what day it was that warm in December of 1963?
@@stddisclaimer8020 - On what planet is the murder of a President 'not' sinister son? When you frame the wrong person? The pre-conceived narrative is that there were only 3 shots taken. Look at how you fear a 4rth. LOL
Why did Oswald put himself into the public eye when a shot from the textile building across the road offered a completely concealed location? Do you have any info on 501 Elm Place?
It was an impulsive act by Oswald decided on only 1-1/2 days beforehand. Do you actually assume he would take the time to carefully scope out the best location? 😛
@@stddisclaimer8020 - Speaking of 'scopes', FBI examined that rifle and said they needed to add shims to the scope just to get it to shoot straight. Do you think Oswald just closed his eyes and pulled the trigger, given that would be the same as shooting with a busted scope, and got tremendously lucky? LOL
@@ghostdance56 Who can say with absolute certainty that Oswald used the scope, and not the iron sights? Or that the rifle's alleged poor shape e.g. needing shims before the FBI could test it, was the same condition it was in when JFK was shot? It had passed through many hands in the intervening period. Even if Oswald's Carcano was the worst piece of junk in the world (e.g. requiring shims) this is an irrelevant argument since we have seen that firearms experts for the Warren Commission and the HSCA proved that it was, in fact, the same weapon that fired three bullets in Dealey Plaza, two of which struck the President.
@@stddisclaimer8020 - I don't see any evidence that puts Oswald on the sixth floor at all, nor do I see real evidence that Oswald ever possessed that rifle at all. There's only an easily forgeable receipt and an empty blanket in Ruth's garage. "It's empty, VOILA, he's guilty!!" LOL. Only suckers think Ruth's narratives are truthful by the way. That commission of politicians is entitled to a biased opinion, but nothing in this case was ever 'proved' son, there was no trial, and therefore no defense posited. It's a narrative from politicians. Hello??? You in North Korea?
@@toussaintinugu1243 - It's an observation. There was a time that people lived their entire lives outside a little electronic screen, you know, in the real world.
Es científicamente imposible los puntos no logran fijar un firmeza desde esa altura sería creíble el hecho cometido de frente algo que no sucedió el ataque hubiera sido creíble cuando se piensa como un asesino
between 10:30 and 11:10 someone puts out cones after the first pass, thats where the car was when he fired. I wonder why he didn't take the easier shot, particularly when the car was turning just below the window.
I too wondered about that and can only think that waiting for the car to turn would mean everyone would be looking down Elm St and not up at Oswald.(or whoever)
I calculated 9 seconds to clear shots on the approach and turn before a tree obstructs the car! The Limo was in grenade range under the TSBD. Why let it go by?
This 'radar operator' who rarely fired a weapon in the Marines, wanted to take a World War II relic rifle known as the worst in the world, which the FBI later needed shims to straighten out the cheap dollar store scope just to get it to shoot straight, and he wanted shoot through trees as the target moved further away from him, just so everyone would learn his middle name. Lee 'Harvey' Oswald, what a guy. .
You won't get a legitimate answer to your question from lone nutters. OBVIOUSLY shooting at the closest point as the limo approached would have been anyone's choice. This sniper's nest theory is bogus from the start.
oswald must have been like a marvel character,car 15 mins late so he eats his lunch on 2nd floor at 12.25,dashes to underpass for neck shot +windscreen with .22 cal,dashes to grassy knoll for another head shot,dashes back to school book building hides mauser 7.65 on 6th floor,dashes back down to 2nd floor to buy a coke to be seen bye a cop at 12.32!
Yes, he was quite fast, like a track star flying up and down the stairs. Because he's on the second floor when shots ring out, they get out the stop watches and have idiots running down the stairs to see if they have their man!! They have to do the same from the boarding house to the Tippit scene, since not a soul on the planet had seen him running there either. Strange though, this track star is seen just moments after the shots, but he's on the 2nd floor. Baker and Truly see him there and they say he's not out of breath, he's not sweating, he's not the least bit nervous at all. Baker uses the term 'cool and collected' as a matter of fact. Had Baker thought he could possibly have been the shooter, he'd have arrested Oswald on the spot. But he doesn't arrest or even detain him, because he knows this can't be the man.who just took fantastical shots with a clip that wouldn't work and a scope that was so busted the FBI had to put 4 shims on it just to make it shoot straight. Oh well, I guess all this makes Oswald guilty in Jim Crow Texas. . .
using Magic bullets that go in the throat from front then go in the back six inches below the neck line, go down from high down and exit back upwards, then almost 90 degrees back down ward, through ribs, shatters wrist bone deflects into left thigh reverses course and lands on the back seat behind JFK where Landis instead of turning it into evidence, grabs it and places it on the stretcher with less damage than a test shot fired into cotton. He was such a sniper that he didn’t even have to sight his scope, FBI had to put shimmy in just to test it. The regular bullets became Magic bullets when Tague was hit by a ricocheted and thus the 3 shot lone gunman could only happen if all that happened with one bullet. Next magic bullet goes from behind down elm then does a 180 enters the right temple of JFK and blows a 5-6 inch hole in right rear splattering blood and brain behind the limo onto officer Hargis and makes piece JFK skull go 35ft behind limo And people still supporting the false narrative… 🇺🇸
@@ch3blazinggospel669 - I'm still on Oswald was on the second floor at the time shots rang out. And if Baker had thought it possible Oswald was the shooter, he'd have arrested him on the spot. Well, as even Kellerman describes, "the limo was hit with a flurry of shots". How many shots in a "flurry", is that 3 evenly spaced shots coming in one at a time? LOL .
@@jetcat132 the day of jfk assassination, in my memory there weren’t 6 people in that car, there was only 4. I did a project on this for social studies in middle school, I vividly remember there were only 4 people.
@@imthatguypal_ There were six people in the car. President Kennedy, Mrs. Kennedy, Governor Connally, Mrs. Connally, and two Secret Service Agents, driver Bill Greer, and Roy Kellerman.
Was the first shot fired on elm and dealy but missed second and third were hurried and the head shot was a back up from the grassy knoll? Can’t see why the shooter waited until dealy plaza before shooting.
If the shooter from the the TSBD opened fire while the motorcade was on Houston street, their position would have been immediately revealed. By waiting til the car got to Dealy Plaza, neither the target nor his entourage would be looking in the direction of the shooter.
@@john_stamos2137 More importantly, once the car turned onto Elm, it was trapped. Couldn’t go anywhere but straight to the underpass. It also opened up fields of fire from both the original Grassy Knoll and the South Knoll to the left of the of the limo across Main St.
@@Chauncey60 watch shooter James Files' interview in youtube in which he states he was the shooter who delivered the fatal shot to Kennedy's head at ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-euW3JYOS0fo.htmlsi=1iKxPuo1ewsGZBUY
@@john_stamos2137 - Of course, over 40 of the 'closest' witnesses DID know from where the shots came from, they knew the shots came from the fence. And what about the 'theory' by the Warren politicians that Oswald wanted to be caught, they claimed this lonely Oswald did it for 'publicity'. How does your little stretch of logic fit in with that son?
He got the job based on Ruth Paine (who Marina was living with at the time) knowing Oswald was looking for work. Leslie Frazier and his sister were neighbors of the Paines, and Frazier had recently been hired at the TSBD. His employment came up during a conversation between Ruth Paine, Marina, and Frazier’s sister, and it was at that time Paine and Marina inquired about the potential of the TSBD hiring LHO as well. Oswald went in for an interview based on Frazier’s sister saying they may need additional help, and on October 15th, 1963, Roy Truly hired him. That’s kind of a round about and inconvenient way to place your assassin in the building if you’re running a conspiracy, don’t you think? Truly not checking Oswald’s references, fate, and chance put Oswald in the building and in the position to kill JFK on November 22nd, 1963, not a conspiracy.
The Paines, both likely intelligence agents themselves, with families, both with intelligence ties, get Oswald a job there. Later, when Ruth Paine heard of another job paying twice as much, did not tell Oswald of that one. Oswald realized he had been setup as a patsy, got the hell out of there, panicked, and killed the cop Tippit. There are even some versions that have an Oswald impersonator, or two, involved with both Tippit, the theater, and Mexico City. Kennedy did not go along with CIA and military to escalate the Bay of Pigs and rather shuts it down and accepts the embarrassment. Kennedy then fires CIA Director Allen Dulles and Deputy Director Charles Cabell, whose brother Earl Cabell is mayor of Dallas at the time. Allen Dulles ends up on the Warren Comission. Did Oswald truly defect to Russia, or was he part of a plan to flush out a mole in the CIA? Oswald had worked in the U2 spy plane program. Were he and Marina using each other to spy on each other’s country? Were the Paines the Oswalds’ handlers? Look up George de Mohrenschildt while you’re at it. Did Oswald go to the theater to meet up with a handler to receive instructions on how he could get out of Dallas? Are Oswald’s many ties to intelligence coincidence? Life Magazine publisher Charles Douglas Jackson who bought the Zapruder film rights and locked them away was a CIA agent since 1948.
@@jetcat132 On this point, I think they have change the planning of the parade very lately, they didn't have to turn for Elm Street and the Dealey Plaza, no interest to do that according to the planning. The parade was almost ended. So, it prouves even more that it was a conspiracy, and Oswald the perfect patsy...
Almost every book describes Kennedy's car coming to nearly a complete stop while making the turn from Houston onto Elm. It looks to me like the limo in the reconstruction doesn't slow down at all. Why? Can we believe anything we see in this?
You believe your own eyes. And when you see the fatal shot in Zapruder, you KNOW it didn't come from that tall building way behind Kennedy. CIA spent a lot of time developing methods for social mind control, it's still going strong today. But believe your own eyes and ears always. The limo didn't stop, but could have slowed. What we KNOW is that the Secret Service definitely didn't speed off as their security protocol mandated they should have after the first shot was heard.
I have seen 3 differing photos of this 'sniper's nest', and I have heard there's a 4rth, which were photos taken as the police were constructing it. Yes, the dummies took photos of each of the configurations of the sniper's nest. When I visited the museum some 15 years ago, even the photo hanging on the wall near the sniper's nest did NOT match the so-called sniper's nest laid out before you. A little hilarious that this was overlooked. When you look at the trajectory of the shot that hit Connally, it points to the WEST side of the TSBD building, not the extreme eastern corner of the building. The two western most windows on the sixth floor were in fact open during the shooting, and if anyone at all shot from the sixth floor it would have been from the opposite side of the building from where the phony 'sniper's nest' was constructed. .
@@IwshIcldstrtover - Is looking at photos beyond your capabilities ? LOL Believing there was a "magic bullet" is the nutjob stuff son. You lied when you stated ""Seven people saw that rifle sticking out the window." All I did was call your bluff on your 'made up' forensics.
@@stddisclaimer8020 - The government itself has held 5 subsequent investigations. NONE concluded what that political band of non-investigators concluded. So odd that lone nutters hang onto the worst opinion.
Can I add these names to the 40+ corroborating eye witnesses who were sure the fatal shot(s) came from behind the fence, which you also want to ignore??? Or the 3 corroborating eye witnesses who were on the TSBD stairway and never heard or saw Oswald flying down the stairs past them, who Warren also desperately needed to ignore? LOL Dallas motorcycle patrolmen Stavis Ellis and H. R. Freeman who stated in their reports you could stick a pencil through the hole in the windshield. Not likely they got it wrong. St. Louis Post-Dispatch reporter Richard Dudman “A few of us noted the hole in the windshield when the limousine was standing at the emergency entrance after the President had been carried inside." Dudman wrote an article in the Post-Dispatch in Dec 1963 which you can still find TODAY sonny, if you had any energy. LOL Second year medical student Evalea Glanges, who later goes on to be Chairperson of the Department of Surgery, at John Peter Smith Hospital, in Fort Worth. First class witness obviously. Secret Service agent Charles Taylor, Jr. In his report wrote: “In addition, of particular note was the small hole just left of center in the windshield from which what appeared to be bullet fragments were removed.” The coverup had already begun. George Whitaker, Sr., a senior manager at the Ford Motor Company’s Rouge Plant in Detroit, Michigan, noted he and a few of his other technicians saw the bullet hole when they were ordered to 'swap out' the windshield and destroy it". He also details how the limo's interior was totally ripped out and replaced, destroying all possibility of obtaining evidence from the "scene of the crime". I mean damn son, it's not as though the bullet hole is a secret. And Kennedy was OBVIOUSLY shot in the front of his neck, and we all SAW in Zapruder how the fatal shot came from the front as well. PLENTY of the people outside the hospital viewed the limo for god's sake. And the world SAW how Secret Service was tampering with the scene of the crime ouside the hospital in that famous 'bucket' footage, and how those nurses refused to help them. It's why the Secret Service was ordered to quickly drive the limo away into hiding. You really have to get your head out of the 1960's fake narratives, the world has moved on in the last 60 years. LOL
Lee's 1st shot was around 18:13 what most likely hit the traffic light (which you can see the hole in this clip) this explains why the nearest shot missed with the car being more over to the left because in the original clip they cut the corner more so JFK's head would have line up with the hole in the traffic light, Lee then waited for the trees to pass to get a clear shot so 2nd shot around 18:20 and the 3rd shot at around 18:23 Howard Norman who was on the 5th floor directly underneath Lee said he even heard the spent shells hit the floor, he describe the 3 shots like "Bang.......Bang...Bang."
Starting at 00:40 that is without question where at least one shot was fired from. The South Knoll is the key to understanding the assassination. This recreation proves how ludicrous the single shooter from the Depository is. He never would’ve waited until the car was past the oak tree to start firing. Never. Not to mention the trajectory. The left side of Kennedy’s head/face would’ve been blown off.
It's always shaky logical ground when we presume to imagine what someone else would "never do." Oswald was nearly directly behind the president when he fired so why would the left side of Kennedy's head/face come into the picture? Perhaps unintentionally, you've pinpointed the objection to any shooter on the grassy knoll, as any bullet from that location would have had to exit on Kennedy's left, which was completely undamaged. (Additionally, Connally's wounds are impossible to account for from a frontal shooter, but easy to account for from Oswald in the TSBD.) A single shooter, from the sixth floor of the TSBD makes total sense, and easily accounts for all wounds received that day.
@@dolnick7 You’re wrong on so many levels it would take hours to refute each one. Suffice to say, you have accepted the myth that is the single bullet theory in totality. However, based on the angle of Kennedy’s head at impact, a shot fired from the Oswald window does not support the trajectory you are claiming, nor does it support the exit wound as seen in the Zapruder Film.
@@Chauncey60 Your comment is in opposition to the facts. Kennedy's wounds line up perfectly with shots from the TSBD, and logically account for Connally's wounds as well (his oblong back wound came from a tumbling bullet, set in motion by exiting Kennedy's throat, where it had no where else to go but downward into Connally. And a headshot from behind resulting in the obvious exit wound to the front of Kennedy's head is exactly what Zapruder shows. The single bullet theory isn't a myth; it's simple physics. Any shot as you claim originating from the grassy knoll would have to exit Kennedy's left side, yet there was no exit wound anywhere on his left. This is borne out by witnesses, the Zapruder film, and the autopsy photos and X-rays. As I said, your beliefs stand in opposition to the facts -- well traveled ground for conspiracy buffs.
@dolnick7 to keep it short to what he's trying to say is, had the headshot come from the depository, the bullet would have entered the top of his head and exited through his face. He also wouldn't had recoiled to the back and left
What do you mean? Oswald is a left-handed shooter and can efficiently work a right handed bolt, which means he doesn't have to lose his line of sight on the target (JFK) to rechamber his weapon. If Oswald would have shot before JFK turned that corner, his location would have immediately been given up. His first shot missed, then he rechambered, moved places, and fired two more. It's really not that hard to understand.
"How about a reenactment with a shooter in the 2nd floor broom closet window. The 4th window in from the sw corner of the dal-tex building": Why do a ridiculous and irrelevant thing like that??
@@ghostdance56 Son, lol, you hav never made any sense with all your ramblings. The vast vast majority - 90% - said they heard 3 shots or less. No sign of any more than 3 shots has ever been discovered - bullets, shooters, nothing - and clear evidence of 3 shots from the TSBD is inescapable. I know you are incapable of understanding and using logic, but If you were capable his would tell you your little fantasies are just that.
a question often raised is "why didn't oswald take the obvious shot as the limo was coming towards him?" i think 8:06 answers that question, he had no room to put both elbows on the box if he had the rifle over to the left shooting from the left corner of the window, having the rifle directed right was the easier position, hence taking the shot on a receding motorcade oswald was a marksman, i don't think he would have considered it a much harder shot to take (and he would have been correct, he hit a moving target twice at an impressive distance)
Also consider that Oswald did not know the order of the vehicles in the Motorcade, nor where JFK was sitting, behind Connolly. He would need a couple of seconds to sort that out. Meanwhile, the car keeps moving. The 2nd and 3rd shot look very plausible for a Marine-trained marksman, which Oswald was.
You do understand that the rating 'Marksman' is the lowest possible rating, right son? He's also using a rifle known as the worst in the world, a World War II relic, with a scope so misaligned the FBI had to add shims to the scope just to get it to shoot straight. Tell me you know these things son. LOL .
Shot came from the knoll... 3 shots? What about the bullet found in the back seat? Bullet hole through the front window of car? Bullet hole in chrome trim above mirror? Then the head shot, magic bullet through both men, missed 1st shot that hit curb and then James Tague... 3 bullets. BS
Your "found in back seat bullet", "hole in windscreen bullet", "hole in chrome trim bullet" are the jokes here. Actual evidence and reality-based logic says the first bullet hit the traffic light, separating the jacket - which caused the sparks by the limo - from the bullet itself, which hit a curb by the underpass and indirectly caused Tague's wound. A bullet doesn't have to be "magic" to go thru 2 men, and I assume you have no idea about the damage to the bullet being specific to the wounds it caused in those men and the tumbling bullet / sideways entry wound on Connally. Please get informed before just chiming in with the old earth is flat myth about a bullet turning and stopping and turning again; Connally and Kennedy were not lined up exactly one in front of the other and Kennedy was higher - and also Connally's upper body was turned to the right at the time of getting hit. Haven't you watched the Z Film? Watch Connally's reaction when Kennedy's been hit and his arms go up. There was a crack on the inside of the windshield and damage to the chrome both from pieces of the head bullet, btw. Three bullets only.
@@peterfraser9070 - You say there's a crack. At least a dozen witnesses who SAW the windshield say they definitely saw a bullet hole. Now, why believe you over them son? LOL
This nonsense was popularized by Stone's JFK, but if people took more time thinking about it and less time repeating it they would realize that it's not the simpler shot at all (especially if you want to get away with it, as Oswald certainly did). You'd have to wait for Connally's head to clear Kennedy's as the car approached, all under the line of sight of the secret service in the followup car. A target slowly receding along Elm Street while the trees covered your window from those underneath is doubtless why Oswald waited as he did. Two out of three hits and then managing to escape detection for a while demonstrates that he chose the correct and easier shot.
@@Chauncey60 Since the president was struck on Elm and not before Oswald evidently thought it was his best opportunity and thus his "easier shot" without delving too much into mind reading.
@@peterfraser9070 - Thats the minimum. As Secret Service agent Kellerman who was seated in the limo testified, "There was a 'flurry of shots' coming into the limo". How many shots are in a 'flurry of shots' doofus? Is it just 3 evenly spaced shots, one at a time, spread out over several seconds? Is that how you would describe a "flurry of shots" ? Are you awake now? LOL .
Not only that, but the last two shots came very close together in time, they weren't evenly spaced according to many witnesses who commented on the spacing. And simultaneous shots could sound like one shot obviously. If it's anything but 3 evenly spaced shots in quick succession, the Warren theory is toast. Secret Service agent Kellerman who was in the limo described what happened as "a flurry of shots came into the limo". A flurry of shots isn't how anyone would describe 3 evenly spaced shots coming one at a time spread out over time. .
"No one else said a "A flurry of shots" ...and wasn't he the same guy who also said, "Kennedy said, 'My God, I'm hit!', which no one else on planet Earth heard him say?
@@swankybutters8371 Nope. Ask any sniper. It's easier to hit a target moving away from you than it is shooting one coming towards you. Also, he didn't want to fire at that point because it would have caused the SS to look up and see Oswald pulling the rifle back into the window.
@@swankybutters8371 It's not a theory. It's a fact. Oswald wasn't a professional sniper, but he would never have been so stupid--having been in the marines--to fire the shots as the car approached the building. Seven people saw that rifle sticking out the window, and had a shot been fired before the car went down Elm Street the cops and SS would have nabbed Oswald easily.
18:13 and there's the hole people in the traffic light what deflected the bullet down the road, the car was over more to the left in the original film which would have lined up perfectly with JFK's head, Oswald then waited for the trees to pass and then took his 2 other shots, the lay out of the spent cartridges found in the SBDB showed that Oswald had changed his position from the 1st shot to the last 2 shots.
@@bm8725 Totally agree, from where the witnesses heard the first shot and explains how the nearest shot missed, love a conspiracy myself but this theory makes the most sense.
@@harrycallahan9143 I agree. I was also researching some conspiracy theories. What are your thoughts on "more than one assasin" theory? Do you personally believe he could reload and aim so fast? Im just curious.
@@thylacine6922 From the looks of it the shots were very doable, put in youtube 1967 rifle test where someone scored 3 hits in like 5.3 seconds, quicker than what they believe Oswald done the shots in and this is a person who's not really familiar with the rifle either.
@@thylacine6922there was definitely a 2nd shooter aiming his rifle at Kennedy at the grassy knoll when the motorcade came down at Elm Street. See ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-euW3JYOS0fo.htmlsi=1iKxPuo1ewsGZBUY in which James Files says he was the 2nd shooter at the grassy knoll.
This voiceless video proves that JFK was not only visible to the shooter for a longer time on Houston and growing larger by the second as he came into view. Stop at this point to understand that LHO had no beef with JFK, but he did with Connolly. So, if LHO was in fact the shooter, his target being JFK would have an easy shot on Houston, but not so on Elm.
Killing Connally would have made Oswald at most a footnote in history, mostly famous for having shot at the limousine Kennedy was riding in. He may or may not have had a beef with Kennedy, but killing the President of the United States guaranteed he would live in infamy forever. Kennedy was the target.
"Stop at this point to understand that LHO had no beef with JFK, but he did with Connolly. So, if LHO was in fact the shooter, his target being JFK would have an easy shot on Houston, but not so on Elm.": Consider that Oswald didn't need a personal beef against Kennedy; he was killing the President. If Connally had been his primary target, why the heck would he choose to shoot thru someone else and hope he gets him that way? And why should he do any shooting on Houston when everyone would be facing him? Think of the disadvantages of that. No, this good marksman, Oswald, was able to get his target - Kennedy - just fine from that short distance on Elm.
@@peterfraser9070 " If Connally had been his primary target, why the heck would he choose to shoot thru someone else and hope he gets him that way?" Because he already had the advantage of JFK coming toward the TSBD, plus Connolly was hardly ever visible on Houston, so apparently JFK was not the target.The rest of your argument proves false, as " this good marksman," missed the 1st shot.....
I don't follow your logic; it wasn't so great to shoot at anyone in the car when it was coming up Houston cause everyone - the police and Secret S. - was facing him, and he'd be giving himself away immediately. How was Connally not visible to Oswald as the limo came up Houston? He was hardly ever visible on Elm St., with Kennedy in the way. I'm surprised you didn't notice why shooting on Houston was a bad idea and that you even repeated the implication that he should have. I'm also surprised you didn't know the best logical explanation is that he fired when Kennedy was at the traffic light and the part of the traffic light deflected the bullet. This does not mean he couldn't have been a good marksman. After all, he zeroed in on Kennedy with the 2nd shot snd hit the bullseye wit the 3rd shot. Again, how is it that you think Connally was not very visible on Houston - being in front of Kennedy - and why did Oswald not therefore take a shot at him?
@@99991ray The right shot was to wait for the limousine to make the 120 degree left hand turn on to Elm, and shoot from the rear. If the first shot doesn’t deflect off that support arm, Kennedy is dead right then and there. The first shot reactions are confusion and not even recognizing that there was a shot, especially the Secret Service agents. They are seen looking over their shoulders in the direction they THINK the sound came from. Had Oswald decided to take the shot up Houston, he would have been spotted immediately and exposed to immediate apprehension and probably even return fire. But instead, shielded by the oak tree and a position above and BEHIND the limousine, he had time to get off the two shots once the limo cleared the tree.
Watching this footage I can understand how the single bullet theory has credence. But I will never be able to understand how Oswald made an exit wound in the right hand side of JFK's head from this angle. Kennedy didn't seem to have turned his head to the left enough for that to make sense.
A computer reconstruction in the late 90's, incredibly accurate to scale, tracked the wounds backwards. The trajectory was exact. That full metal jacket entered the back of his head cleanly, as a jacketed bullet would do. The force exploded into pieces, as jacketed bullets do. His head went slightly forward from the entry, about 1 1/2 inches, then slammed his head backward from the massive exit wound. I know exactly what your saying. It took ne some extra study to see if the angle was correct. It had to be correct, otherwise, the exit wound would have been more to the front. So logic prevails here. It is the only answer. I like your scrutiny as opposed to so many people will simply cling to what they believe, damn the facts and evidence. If you really get down and study Oswald, I believe you will come to the conclusion that he acted alone. There can be no other conclusion. Takes time, but if you want the truth, there is a ton of evidence and logic that will bring you to no other conclusion. I started my studies years ago really leaning to a conspiracy. Ruby imposed that on millions of us. But the trail to the truth is actually fun for those people who are critical thinkers and want the truth. I think you're one of those, and I applaud you for that.
BTW, that exit wound started in the occipital region and continued to the parietal area. It created a large skin flap that, when folded back, virtually covered the entire wound. That took me some time to figure out. It was very confusing until you see open and then closed. It's a real ha ha moment and really helps to fully understand the reconstruction of the wound and trajectory. There is a great, lengthy RU-vid study by a professor titled "Oswald Acted Alone". Well worth the watch. If you seriously want to study, I would be happy to give you my phone number and guide you in somebof the cloudy areas. The truth is there, for sure. Best wishes to you. In 44 years I've never persuaded anyone to take the journey. I think the truth is worth the time. Even the Warren Commision Report is a great read. They got some things wrong, but overall, they got it right. Believe me, a lot of the assistant lawyers were dying to be the one to expose a conspiracy. It is simply not there and 60 years later there is no CREDIBLE evidence to prove otherwise. 🤔
"didn't seem to" "enough" Unfortunately there are no extant footage or still shots of the strike that would tell us. Z was filming almost orthogonally to the car. K's head +/- 5º right or left is quite possible for all we can see. Likewise the simulation above shows the car going more or less down the center, but it could have been veering a bit, and even as it is it is pointing almost straight ahead from the window perspective. If we add 5º head-turn to 3º swerve, a center-line strike would indeed be exiting on the right-of-center of K's head. But there's more. It the universal consensus, including Dr. McClelland's _who holds the frontal-shot position,_ that the back of the head's wound is to the right of center. There is a dispute about occipital or parietal bone, but it doesn't matter in this discussion. Even with Kennedy looking straight ahead from the window's perspective, the left-front part of the slug is going to meet the skin/bone _f i r s t_ This is going to make a small, but significant, wedge-effect, canting its angle and motion slightly to the right, even though its extreme momentum is not going to stop it from making an approximately round hole. Conservation of angular momentum also means that the spinning bullet is now going to precess (wobble), as a gyroscope does. It now meets the brain-surface and its membrane, also at angle and because of the aforementioned effect(s), although the brain tissue is a lot softer, the angle, wobble, and trajectory changes are going to magnify. But to back up, we have to consider the potential of the jacket being stripped from the lead core, having penetrated solid bone. That's too much to talk about, but with what we have, we can confidently say that a substantial front-side exit can be rated at _least_ ... plausible. What we must rule out is a frontal shot, at least from any rational position behind the grassy knoll. What's good for the deflection goose from behind is not good for the frontal gander: the exit wound in that instance could never have wound up right-of-center, occipital or parietal. It would have blown out the left-back side of K's head. The only angle that would work would be the same sort of angle as from the Depository window, and there is/was no available position anywhere along the fence to get that angle, and most of the positions that frontal-shot proponents advocate are clearly insufficient to the task. Any possible workable position would be well out in the open. So, we are left with a plausible behind-shot geometry and dynamic, and (from a Sherlockian analysis), an impossible one.
He had a way clearer shot when they first turned onto that street around 16:42 and on. I wonder why he hesitated and waited for him to turn the corner. Now the target just gets harder to get at it moves away. Kind of strange that he’d wait until there was a tree blocking his view. I’m assuming maybe it took him time to figure out exactly where Kennedy was situated in the car. When you think of all that had to come into play watching this, it’s kind of amazing he hit him 2 times. There were several other cars in the motorcade. Maybe Jackie’s pink hat made him easier to spot. Idk but he only had a few seconds to train his target and get it right. A moving target it much harder to hit. Just crazy.
@@Idk_Biguy I have enough knowledge to know that the energy from a shot from the back would have NOT lundged his head back in the direction that the energy was coming from......the car wasn't rolling fast enough to claim the blood and brain splatter all went toward the trunk lid via the wind from the speed of the car .......plus that car was sitting in Detroit for repairs before JFK 's remains touched down in DC
It's a good point, but Oswald wanted to escape after firing. He has a better chance of getting away if he shoots while JFK is further down the road than he does if he shoots as JFK is moving towards the TSBD. It would have been far more obvious to all the people down there where the shots were coming from.
In the Zapruder slow motion film, it shows Jackie shooting JFK on the left side of his head at close range. She then proceeds to slide her small silver handgun across the trunk to the SS man standing behind the vehicle. It's plain as day.
Actually, I see where the confusion is. She doesn’t point the gun at his head, she doesn’t even have a gun, she lays her hand on the back of the car and then puts both hands together, in her lap
@@CoolCademMAnimates-fz1ui You obviously can't see the truth and don't want to believe it. She had a small handgun in her purse. It shows her shooting him in the left side of his head. She then proceeded to slide the handgun across the back of the trunk to the SS man standing behind the vehicle. You can see it plain as day if you look closely. Open your eyes!
@@Revelation18-4 I looked at it before making the reply bro. She rests her elbow on the back of the car and only after he is shot she puts her hand against the back of his head. If you zoom in closely, you can kinda see how her hand is obscured behind the back of JFKs shirt.
The first shot was fired before the car went behind the sign. At that moment, the President stood half way up, then fell back onto the seat. There are videos, and a book that say the same. The CIA cut a lot from the video, and gave the cleansed version back to Mr. Zapruder.
Lee was left handed and was reported to be very efficient at working a right handed bolt. Consider that a left handed person does not have to take their trigger finger or hand of the rifle while working the bolt with the right hand. They also can keep the rifle shouldered. I believe Lee chose to take the shots when he did as to not give up his location. Firing before the turn would have certainly revealed his position. The one thing that confirms that Lee was the shooter for me is that when he was approached by the police officer as he was walking down the sidewalk in the neighborhood, he pulled out his revolver and shot the police officer dead. Not the actions of an innocent man.
According to the three witnesses who noted the time of the shooting, Officer Tippit was shot no later than 1:10pm, about five minutes before Lee Oswald could have reached the scene of the crime. The only confirmed sighting of Oswald at around this time was by his housekeeper, Earlene Roberts, who saw him standing at a bus stop outside his rented room, waiting for a bus which would eventually pass the Texas Theater, the site of Oswald’s arrest about 45 minutes later. The bus was heading north. The site of Tippit’s murder was nine-tenths of a mile away to the south. Roberts saw Oswald no earlier than 1:03pm (WCHE, vol.6, p.448 and WCHE, vol.7, p.439), a maximum of seven minutes before Tippit was killed. The FBI (CE 1987 [WCHE, vol.24, p.18]) and the Secret Service (Commission Document 87, p.340) independently measured the time they took to walk briskly from the rented room to the site of the murder. They each took 12 minutes. Without assistance, Oswald could not have reached Tippit in time to shoot him.
Exactly. The fact he shot a police officer, kind of solidifies it for me. I mean an innocent person wouldn’t just pull out a gun when being approached by an officer
"Officer Tippit was shot no later than 1:10pm, about five minutes before Lee Oswald could have reached the scene": this type of gobbledy-gook is no match for so many eye witnesses unambiguously ID'ing Oswald as the murderer of Tippit. You have nothing there.
Patrolmen LL Hill police audio 12:37 “Get some men up here to cover this school depository building. It's believed the shot came from, as you see it on Elm Street, it would be upper right hand corner, second window from the end.” 22 I have one guy that was possibly hit by a richochet from the bullet off the concrete and another one saw the President slump 137 (Patrolman E.D. Brewer) We have a man here who says he saw him pull the weapon back through the window off of the second floor from the top southeast corner of that depository building robbery of an individual, 2205 Cockrell. 12:38 Is 32 one man or two man? Dispatcher Be two man. 4 10-4. It's going to take at least two. Dispatcher 10-4 32, have you arrived? 32 (Ptm. N.L. Hackney and J.T. Smith) No. We're away up in North Dallas on this call. We're about -- Webbs Chapel and Royal Lane right now 12:45 Dispatcher Attention Elm and Houston is reported to be an unknown white male, all squads. Attention all squads. The suspect in the shooting at approximately thirty, slender build, height five feet ten inches, weight one hundred sixty-five pounds, reported to be armed with what is thought to be a 30 caliber rifle. Attention all squads. The suspect from Elm and Houston is reported to be an unknown white male about thirty, slender build, five feet ten inches tall, one hundred sixty-five pounds, armed with what is thought to be a 30-30 rifle. No further description at this time, or information. 12:45. Dispatcher Attention all squads, the suspect in the shooting at Elm and Houston is supposed to be an unknown white male, approximately 30, 165 pounds, slender build, armed with what is thought to be a 30-30 rifle, - repeat, unknown white male, approximately 30, 165 pounds, slender build. No further description at this time or information, 12:45 p.m. 233 (Ptm. J.T. Fortsen) 233. 15 (Captain C.E. Talbert) Could 9 determine whether man was supposed to have been still in the building or was he supposed to have left? 35 (Ptm. J.M. Lewis) 35 clear. Dispatcher I didn't know for sure and the witnesses didn't have the description, but we have got that building surrounded by now and we should know something before long. (Sergeant G.D. Henslee) Well, all the information we have receive, 9, indicates that it did come from about the 5th or 4th floor of that building Dispatcher 87, 78, move into central Oak Cliff area. 78 (Ptm. J.D. Tippit) I'm about Kiest and Bonnie View. 87 (Ptm. R.C. Nelson) 87's going north on Marsalis at R.L. Thornton Signal 19, involving the President. Suspect: white male, thirty, slender build, five feet ten inches, one hundred sixty-five pounds, believed to have used 30 caliber rifle. Believed to be in the old School Book Depository, Elm and Houston, at this time Any clothing description? Dispatcher No clothing description. A white male, approximately thirty, slender build, five feet ten, weighs one sixty-five. 78 (Ptm. J.D. Tippit) 78. Dispatcher You are in the Oak Cliff area, are you not? 78 Lancaster and Eighth. Dispatcher You You will be at large for any emergency that comes in. 78 10-4. (very strange) 100's got about six men checking out that railroad yard back toward that direction. If you get any information on the shooting, let someone know here Dispatcher 78, location?
9 (Insp. J.H. Sawyer) 9. We have a man we would like to have you pass this up on to the CID to see if we can pick this man up. Charles Douglas Givens, G-I-V-E-N-S. He's a colored male, thirty-seven, six foot three, a hundred sixty-five pounds. He has an ID number in the Sheriff's Department, 37954. He's a porter that worked on this floor up here. He has a police record and he left. 492 (CID) 492
Dispatcher Surgeon being flown in from Galveston to Dallas Love Field. Looking for someone to stand by and escort him to Parkland. He should be by in about 30 minutes. 550/2 (Sergeant Gerald L. Hill) A witness reports that he last was seen in the Abundant Life Temple about the 400 block. We are fixing to go in and shake it down. Dispatcher Is that the one that was involved in the shooting of the officer? 550/2 Yes. Dispatcher They already have him.
Dispatcher 87, was that a Pontiac or Falcon? 87 (Ptm. R.C. Nelson) He didn't say what kind of car it'd be. It was a white car with a luggage rack on the top. He wasn't sure of the model; it was a big car though
Interesting to see @18:23 the traffic pole that likely deflected Oswald's first shot, which most witnesses placed right after the car wheeled on to Elm. Oswald had more than enough time to aim and fire two more rounds after that. Strange that a similar deflection of his bullet -- that time by a window frame -- prevented Oswald from successfully killing General Walker earlier that summer.
When the FBI recovered his rifle, they found it hadn't been properly zeroed. Given the shots Oswald made, it makes sense that his first shot missed, his second shot was too low, and the third shot was the kill. It might have been just as misaligned when he took his "pot shot" at General Walker, as Marina put it.
Boy you sure can see why it makes sense that Oswald fired his 1st shot right after the turn onto Elm, right when the traffic mast got in the way. It explains the sparks by the limo at that location (jacket) and the curb hit by the underpass (rest of bullet) that indirectly got Tague. Then, count 5 seconds or so and the limo has passed the tree and BAM, right where we know the 2nd shot happened; then - as the Z Film tells us - about 5.5 seconds later the head shot. Some people did say - especially Jim Jarman right immediately below on the 5th floor - that the 3 shots were about evenly spaced. It fits together.
"which is bigger entry or exit wound?": When Oswald's bullet entered the upper right back of his head and caused the small round entry wound there, it fragmented and the explosion - literal explosion - blew out the skull above Kennedy's right ear. As you have seen with your own eyes, those pieces of skull above his head flew up and forward on impact. Watch again. Watching frames 312 to 315 show you his head is knocked forward on impact. That thing above his right ear is a piece of skull attached to skin hanging down from the hole right above it. Take a look again at the Zapruder Film and you'll see something above his right ear right after the "back and to the left" muscle reflex. It wasn't just simply "bullet enters and blows out other side". Again, the fragmenting bullet literally caused an explosion, and in such an explosion, stuff does not just neatly fly in only one direction.
@@peterfraser9070 i thought the official story was this bullet didnt fragment it went on through the guy in front seat a few times and then bullet found in good condition.the whole point of my original comment 8 months ago was that the facts that were sold to the public contained alot of rubbish!.police said they had found mauser 7.65 gun in depository.later that changed make and calibre .what sort of cop would get that wrong? a witness said they saw oswald on second floor 5 mins before shooting,another witness a cop saw him again on second floor says he saw oswald on second floor 5 mins after shooting.the so called facts contains cops changing their story,and doctors changing story all to fit outcome they wanted
No, the Single Bullet (the 2nd fired) didn't fragment it went thru Kennedy's soft-neck tissue and that tough full-metal jacket bullet got slight damage on the nose as a result. It tumbled and entered Connally sideways, giving him a sideways entry wound and that side of the tough full-metal jacket bullet got a bit flattened as a result. The other stuff you mentioned wasn't very accurate and a bit of a mish mash.
if this was limos approx speed 3 shots quite doable. lee h oddwald most likely cycled weapon 2 times for the kill and then once after the fact prior to escape as weapon was found chambered with a round. any trained shooter would have a round chambered before attack and then chamber a follow up 4 th time permitting/needed. the comments of definately multiple shooters needed for this laughable.
@peterfraser9070- You claimed " the fragmenting bullet literally caused an explosion" . Then you're claiming that somehow this 'fragmented' bullet' made a VERY sharp right turn in Kennedy's brain and came out the side of his head. So in essence you're claiming there were TWO MAGIC bullets that day. LOL But no son, remember the 'pristine' bullet that went thru one of the hardest bones in the human body? According to YOU of course. Hello? As a 24 year veteran of Army Infantry, a shot entering the rear of his head comes out his face. No round makes a sharp right turn inside his brain son, especially after being fragmented. The momentum is forward. It's utter nonsense and you know that. You're tangled in your own BS now. And WHERE are the brain dissections to determine the trajectories of the rounds that cut thru his brain? Nowhere, it was never performed as in EVERY other autopsy on the planet. And thats is because it wasn't an actual autopsy at all. As we can see with our own eyes, the fatal shot hits Kennedy from the front, slices off a lob of skin from his scalp as it slices thru his head and blows out the rear of his head. This is corroborated by every surgeon in that hospital, every nurse who saw his head, every lab technician, at least two FBI agents, and even a Secret Service Agent or two, as well as our own eyes. Many witnesses commented about how the last shot did not sound like the others, which initially were described as 'firecrackers'. But from what we can see in Zapruder, there's not much doubt the fatal shot was a hollow point round. The Carcano had no hollow point rounds even available. .
Connally heard two shots. Some heard 4 or 5. So what. Simultaneous shots would sound as one shot. How could they not? And it depends on where you are standing at the time. 40+ of the closest corroborating witnesses said at least one shot came from the fence. And if you believe your own eyes, Zapruder also demonstrates this. NO ONE gets to ignore this evidence! Evidence is not a 'popularity contest'. 10% said this, 11 % heard that, what kind of insanity is that? Thats childish, and totally anathema to the use of evidence. You take in ALL the evidence and you piece together conclusions based on ALL of it. Fact is, ALL the witnesses are right in what they they heard. However, ALL that matters is the number of shots and where they came from. And enough witnesses heard at least two shots close enough together to discount the Oswald theory, including Secret Service Agent Kellerman who testified "the limo was hit with a flurry of shells". How many shots in a "flurry of shells" do you think? Is he describing 3 evenly spaced shots coming in seconds apart just one at a time? I think not, I think he's describing a hail of bullets hitting the limo almost simultaneously. Naturally since the limo, or 'the scene of the crime', was quickly driven off and hidden away , while it's windshield and interior were swapped out immediately, we'll never know the secrets the "scene of the crime" may have told. Imagine trying to hold a trial when the 'scene of the crime' has been tampered with, and in this case totally destroyed. They never intended to put Oswald on trial, refusing him legal representation also demonstrates this. The lone nutters want to treat evidence as if it's a popularity contest. You'll never find a case where more of the witnesses get ignored than in this case. The lone nutter theory is for dinosaurs. LOL
8:19 LMAO.... :) I probably need to stand up behind the window to aim at a target down the fifth floor and in a diagonal direction. Also, a precision tripod system and a fine scope are probably required to hit a moving target 80 meters away. Let them perform a demo with the best snipers today in 2021; I wonder if they will be able to shoot 3 successful shots in 8 seconds with the same short 13$ cost rifle , with the same 7$ cost scope, on the 5th floor, unnoticed behind the window, without a tripod, targeting a melon on the move 80 meters away....
mr zip 6 th floor for the record. precision tripod and scope to hit a target 80 meters away required? hardly, 99.9 per cent of deaths in war or other wise killed without either. 3 successful shots no, 2 shots connected. cost of rifle and scope has no bearing and using 1962/3 prices skews it even more. unnoticed, yea, ossie stood back and waited for back shot before getting into position. however, his first suspected shot by light pole that missed was more than likely form a standing position as angle to target was steep. ossie got dissed as a goofball, couldn't do it, cheap rifle and more. any volunteers to ride a reenactment with similar 'bad rifle and cheap scope" in the hands of another nutty? hell no, he might make the shot. thank you for coming, drive safely.
It’s not that far of a shot at all. It’s basically from the sidewalk to the road just higher up a bit. It was very possible that there was only one shooter. I however can agree that there was a whole bunch of people that planned it
Mr Jr Nu Mex;. I am a simple citizen who builds conspiracy theories from his seat, but in the political assassination news that I have read or watched so far, assassins who attack at close range take pills that distract but increase courage. Long range shooting requires calmness, professionalism, attention and equipment. Assuming the assassin doesn't take pills for accurate aiming, he'll be under a lot of stress after the first shot and will prefer to flee instead of successfully hitting the moving target 2 more times.
That is why everyone in the area ran to the grassy knoll. Everyone did hear the shot and knew exactly where they came from. Of course that was just one of three of the shooters.
Witnesses clearly stated the 3rd shot sounded "different from the other two". That third shot came from the knoll, with the shooter using a suppressor to mask the sound. Unlike what Hollywood shows us time and time and time again, suppressors (also known as silencers) DO NOT make a rifle or pistol shot SILENT!!! It only makes the shot LESS LOUD.
@@larryharbison2466 yes true. Buy the knoll is very small and if you've ever been in front of a rifle shot, you would know if a rifle fired behind you even with a suppressor. There is a concussive force that you can feel and almost all rifles fire super sonic rounds meaning that you would hear a loud crack as the bullet crashes they the sound barrier. Again, no way was there any gunman on the grassy knoll that day.
@@alrifr5786They simply followed the motorcycle cop up the knoll to see what he was seeing. Sane men and women didn’t run up the knoll to confront an active shooter behind the fence….
@jetcat132 lol...what a lie. Most ran there way before the cops did and there are nearly 50 on record saying that is where they heard shots from. Many even saw gunsmoke with remarkably consistent testimony. All ignored by the lying bastards on the Warren Commission.
Please, I mean no offense. But nearly all firearms experts agreed that the shot on Elm was a much easier shot. The car was traveling at less than 9 miles per hour in a straight line with no obstruction once the car passed the tree. The final shot was a mere 88 yards, almost as if standing still. We cannot make untested assumptions if we really want the truth. Go on the web and watch OSWALD ACTED ALONE if you want to follow critical thinking to truthful analysis. 😊
The limo passed RIGHT BELOW the window for god's sake. Making the turn was the PREMIERE time to fire. And when moving TOWARDS the window, virtually the entire body would be exposed, not just the head. What planet are you from? LOL
