I saw zep once. Firm once. Trippin both. What I swear I saw was the most melodic, powerful, passionate expression of a man's emotion, from soul, mind, heart transferred to us thru his fingers. I believe we are in total agreement SS...are we not?
Oh I love this, Jimmy Page is a show onto himself! Playing electric guitar like a classical guitar - that's why he had the edge on all those other guys.
If you like the music and think he is it,why analyze he is sloppy ? No he is NOT. I hate perfection in art,it is not art. Aside from that he never took theory or lessons. THAT is genius and ART !
agreed, Page went to art school during the 60's. I think he viewed the guitar as a means to an end as oppsed to desiring to be a "guitar master". It was more creating something of artistic value than wanking off on the guitar hence he's not going to impress the guitar snobs.
As a longtime Zeppelin fan I was really prejudiced against this when it first came out. In hindsight, this song is one of Page's greatest masterpieces. And what lyrics!
Not as good and cohesive a song as ten years gone,seems like a collection of miscellaneous bits he has strung together.with something similar to white summer thrown in.he originally wrote most of this music at hedley grange in 74 ,back then he called it swan song.paul added lyrics and it became this ,still its fascinating to watch anything page does .this band and paul saved Jimmy from a dark time in his life
Saw Jimmy in Chicago on the 1988 Outrider tour - electrifying performance, and this song was the highlight for me. 6th row, I saw him like watching this video. It was such a transcendent moment. Fans of Jimmy's Eastern-influenced acoustic work might a vid I just posted: "Rosetta West - Yallah." Hope you like it.
...."she keeps her secrets with her eyes, like a moon behind silver cloud...she holds my memory with her smile, am dreaming now, spinning round....let her take it all away. Every time I turn around I know that she is there, every time I turn she is every where."....Midnight Moonlight Brilliant and moving!
By the way, from the looks of Jimmy - which many people have commented on - this is from the ARMS tour, when he still had a certain issue going. In the Firm era, he's noticeably heavier and more robust and healthy. That's my opinion as a long-time fanatic, but apologies to the poster if I'm wrong.
@wikkid61 Yes, watching Pagey when he was in this condition makes me want to weep. So thin, so ill. But hearing him is always wonderful. We are blessed that he is still with us and healthy :)
wow, mayb the greatest guitarist of all time with the greatest singer ,well paul is the elvis of rock n roll. saw them in kc 86 at kemper arena, , im just in tears now, thanx paul an jimmy
That is awsome that this is an old Zep song.When I heard of Page and Rodgers in a new band, I new it would be great!I bought the cassette tape and wore it out!Reminds me of some unforgetable times with my first beautiful, blue eyed love, in high school.Cruising around,double dating wih my bro and his girl.Summmertime in the mountains,camping and skinny dipping in the moonlight at the lake.........ahh...take me back!
I love this song! but when I hear the "demo" of Swan Song I remain without words! Zep where just so fucking great !! why didn't they put this song on a zep album !?! another Page mystery... :)
Dec. 1983. Backing group is Simon Phillips drums, Fernando Saunders, Andy Fairwheather-Low. Basic song structure based off of White Summer improvs. Tuning is DADGAD-same as Kashmir. Page is off Heroin by this time, but still showing the ravages of 7 years of use. ARMS concerts in US all used video screen projection, which is where this source comes from.
I freaking love this song..Its Jimmy having a chance to go nuts...And Paul singing his lyrics and he sounds so much better in this song..Sorry..I have my favorite songs but this has always been one of those long lost secrets
...." She said take me from this wilderness, I want to be where I won't be lonely. Take me from this wilderness, I want to be where I can see. Take me from this wilderness, i want to be where I cane be free!.... Great lyrics
I think The Firm was excellent. Only 2 albums and there were definitely high points. Both live and recorded. The Firm project was NOT supposed to be Zep or BadCo. It was something different. A great voice and a great guitarist.
Which is why he used the good-old Dano for "Kashmir" in 1977, 9, and 80. White Summer/Black Mountain Side was played first, followed by "Kashmir." Turn back to 1975, and you see him playing the same song with a Les Paul.
I saw the Mean Business tour, Page did the violin bow solo under the lazer pyramid, He was not a shell of himself he was in top form. was my first time to see page, it was beyond awesome. a Night I'll always remember and always be thankful I was blessed to be able to see. this video must be very early in the firm , that dont look llike Chris Slade on drums, nor Tony Franklin on bass
Seen THE FIRM LIVE 4 Times Two times in 1985 @MSG & @Brendan Byrne Arena, NJ An Twice in 1986 @Brendan Byrne Arena, NJ & The Veterans Memorial Coliseum, NY
When I compare Clapton with Page, I love Clapton's consistency. However, originality and breaking boundaries is all Jimmy Page's. Call it Swan Song or Moonlight , the stage is his. To me this is LZ just as different line up . If this was on say Physical Graffiti , then this would sit equally with Kashmir with equal joy and happiness
@JustinPierce1226 I got you. Zeppelin (BTW my favorite band) is so hard to duplicate. It was and is a combination of four extremely talented and multi dimensional people. It is like the planets aligned just at the right time, and we were all lucky enough to be there to see them preform over the decade they were around. Zeppelin = great fucking music!
This was from the ARMS concerts benefit for Ronnie Lane. Simon Phillips is on drums, there's congas in the backgroud (The FIRM never used congas in their tour, much less Simon Phillips - their drummer was Chris Slade for both albums & tours)
Saw the Firm live and it was a great performance by all. Paul Rodgers is to this day the best live singer I have ever heard. By the way I have seen well over 200 different bands from the 70's til the last concert I want to. The Foo Fighters in 2007 Right up there with Paul was Stevie Marriot in 74 with Humble Pie..
The fact is people, that Page got back out and did what he does best after Zep disbanded. Think about it.. If he quit giving us music, either good or bad, what what we do? We'd all cry and beg on our hands and knees for him to come back. My best comment I'll ever put on RU-vid is this: It's music. Shut it and enjoy it.
My favorite Firm song. I saw them live in STL in '85 or '86 and I was in row 1 on my brothers shoulders in my custom silk screened white denim jacket with all of Zeppelins album covers printed on it from art class. Jimmy was on point but I couldn't help but remember how his cigarette was totally sopping wet dripping with slimy spit just like his chin in this video. To be that close in concert to my guitar hero at the time was immeasurable. I got married in '88 and lost that fucking jacket, sad.
Jimmy quit heroin right before the ARMS concerts and he admitted it to his closest friends like Clapton, Rogers and Winwood. Jimmy figure our that he lost his greatest asset in Bonzo and he did not want to die too soon either. Rumor has it that Bonham got hooked on the heroin too. When he tried to stop, he used booze as his crutch and drank mor than ever hence we lost him in the middle of the night. A tragedy nd a legacy in one swooping second.
As I have read, Page wouldnt touch a guitar for a long time. Clapton got him to play the ARMS concert. Then he started writing this...Its melodic, yet speaks of the darkness he surely felt. Dig the finger pickin'! Rogers (the greatest singer ever!) started working with him and had to put lyrics to it. "Take me from this wilderness" listen carefully its about Jimmy's total devastion and guilt about Bonzo. I love this song!
Originally from his days with The Yardbirds on a tune called White Summer, from which Black Mountain Side was created. There’s a live version from Zeppelin’s well-documented Paris Theater show in 1972 in which Page performs them together
This is a great performance from the U.S. leg of the ARMS Tour. It's interesting to see the bridge just before the end is twice the length of The Firm version. That was always my favorite part of the song, so it's nice to see that section is twice as long here. Nice job guys!
I think Paul Rogers is one of the great voices in rock n' roll history. Fantastic. But, damn, his sense of performance and stage theatrics is DDDDDDddddddduuuuuullllllllll. Come on Paul!
Good camera work. Really nice stuff. Page WORKED hard to get through this night. Arms painfully thin, still rose to the task. Much kudos for the rest of the band. Rogers? Hall of Fame lock. Anything less is THEFT!
Though Jimmy is not at his best,I can see he is still THE guitar master. This vid made me think what a great singer/front man Robert Plant was. I'd like to thank each member of Zep for their great work.
Greatly underrated appreciated album for sure.....Pagey was still awesome but very obviously strung out during this time period. He was extra gaunt even for him, his eyes were hollow and unfocused, even his facial expressions seemed odd and forced. Glad he got thru it all, by Outrider(ANOTHER vastly underrated album) he seemed a lot better. Wish he'd do some more work!
I always thought this was an exceptional group, bought the albums, saw the tours. But, hey, I'd go see Page play with local grade school band. All his post Zep efforts have been short lived. I would have thought after 12 years of Plant, anyone would be easy to get along with.
I sing paul rogers songs with bands from time to time this being my favorite I was kissed by the lead singer of bad comapany ( not paul rogers) and asked to go back stage but had a party to go to afterwards so I didn't my life dream is to meet with him and sing either this song or seagul god I love this guys soul!!!!
Thanks, I couldn't remember what it was. I know it's on the Led Zep DVD, but I didn't feel like fast forwarding through that thing trying to find the song. Anyway, my point was In My Time Of Dying and Kashmir were, to my knowledge, the only songs he stood when playing the Danelectro. The clips I've seen of Midnight Moonlight, he does jump out of his seat during the heavy section when the drums come in, but otherwise, he always sat with that guitar.
@kidzsanlorenzo I loveeeeeeeeed The Firm and still very much do today. Paul Rogers can still blow and let's face it Jimmy will be heard from 6ft under us all after he is gone. Great calaboration, would love to see live, oh how I wish:)
hard to believe that jimmy even made it through the 80s. i saw them with the firm and he was in better shape then. 1986? saw him with the crows later on. the man has changed so much over the yrs. looking at the the young guitar god of the early 70s with that les paul sling low and belting out licks. hard to believe this is the same guy??. page rules.
their songs were underrated cause of their past, none of the material was as good as zep or free but still I wouldn't mind seeing a Firm reunion today!
Yeah spot on mate. And i remember the music press were constantly comparing The Firm to Bad Co and Zep. Paul and Pagey must have got really fed up with it.
