JJ is OFF HIS ROCKER 😯 Stephen A. RESPONDS to Redick saying the MJ era was watered down | First Take 

Not really. Christine Williamson is no where near Mollys level

@@gradel888 im talking in terms of bringing guest on

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@@gradel888 definitely not look wise

I thought he needed Max lol.

Well I mean the reason SAS has such a harsh reaction is because it’s a stupid hill for Redick to die on. It’s a terrible take. Are today’s players better? Of course because there’s advancements in training, nutrition and medicine. But if you put the player’s of the 80s and 90s in the present they would be able to equally benefit from those advancements and if you put the players from now in the past they would suffer from the same deficiencies of the past. Just because things are more advanced today doesn’t mean everyone from the past was inferior. Redick doesn’t seem to be able to grasp that concept.

How do you 90's fan not understand the concept of expansion?- Players were drafted off current teams. Creating vacancies on those very teams, in which players not already in the league were needed, to fill those spots. What does this mean? Rosters were weaker across the league, with players who were not NBA-caliber without the expansion. Lastly, if you think players have not evolved in the sport in terms of skill & versatility in 30 years- you are too lost to even understand logic.

@@eaglewinnings8003well said!

@@eaglewinnings8003 You could say the same thing about the NBA in the 60s yet no one considers Wilt's or Bill Russell's achievements the same because of their era. NBA players back then were not as good as those in the 80s and 90s in the same way players from Jordan's era were not as good as current NBA players. Jordan was literally playing against plumbers and HVAC technicians. The standard for players in the NBA today is not even comparable to Jordan's era, thats Reddick's point.

​@LL-zm9go it's not that they don't understand, they don't want to. If you aren't even going to consider logic, you will do everything to avoid it. They take it as disrespectful, but it's just the truth of the era. The top guys were still at the top, but the bucket of talent obviously wasn't as full

I never thought he'd wear a tie. Everything else is easy, now.

Jokic the "plumber" just sent leBUM aka leBALCO aka leHGH aka lePED back home to biogenesis lab 😂😊😅...ooh by the way, joker is lebum real daddy!!! 😂😊😅

@@ferdiedizon6907 you make no sense you need mental help

Did JJ ever respond to that? Imagine Jordan responding to JJ. Could literally take his job away from him. 50 year old Jordan would beat JJ in his prime.

@nukenubz5087 I agree jordan would still beat jj lol. Jj is just a hater towards the past generations. And no jj never responded lol

Jj was nice tho def ain’t a plumber like mfs back then and that’s the truth

Facts he's a OG and so smart

Unc is the epitome of Heat Culture.

He’s horrible

Buddy onnat good gas ,dude lips purple 🤣

NOpe, he is not articuilate. Boring to listen.

Everybody you see on these shows are on the payroll 😂.

People that defend jordans era but then come and say todays game have no defense and this era sucks.

​@@user-gc1wj8tt2p the NBA commissioner literally admitted to altering rules to make it easier for offensive players today. I watch games where refs flat out allow obvious traveling, carrying, moving screens, and ghost fouls with nonsensical flopping every game. This is just the objective truth.

@@user-gc1wj8tt2pIt is true. They play no defense. You can SEE it with your EYES when watching.

@@user-gc1wj8tt2p todays era sucks , player entitlement , lack of defense , no travel calls , every year half of the star players are injured and load management . JJ reddick trashes jordan because he wants lebron and new heads come to his podcast

Pat4Clippers slop essays from you lately. What happened to your predictions? Eddie Mush 👴🏻 have you finally learned your lesson?

Well said.

Doing tricks on it

Perfectly said

Well said!

yeah i dont doubt that

You think udonis not💯😭

@@Dipset415 uh no... Udonis is with Pat Riley, he'd never side with Bron

JJ is on that bullsh*t.

obviously , lebron wants him to coach the lakers , ever since he came to espn he has been shitting 90s players while promoting todays dogshit league

Bob Cousy also

Jerry didn't play in the 90s, hed probably agree with JJ. Dr j said the same thing about the 90s in the 90s.

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@@Pswayze23Wilt too

They mad because he spoke facts

nice. 🫡

Just 3 we aint counting the bubble

@@Joshua-oo1ogstupid casual 😂 all rings count. The bubble was arguably the hardest ring per players who actually played and was stuck in the bubble

@@daleahsampler3451 hardest when you didnt have to travel, not all the players decided to play, no crowd 😂

@@Joshua-oo1oglol facts

Winning 4 rings with a stacked deck? WTH do you think Jordan did to win 6 championships?.... He stacked the deck. Don’t forget, Jordan never won a championship without Pippen, & for their 6 championship runs, with the exception of points, Pippen led Jordan in every other statistical category (Reb, AST, BLK, STL). You can’t say playing next to Pippen (who was a top 5 player at the time), didn’t make Jordan’s life a little easier. On top of that, Jordan also had the luxury of playing under the greatest HC of all time in Phil Jackson, & was surrounded with solid role players (like Rodman, Harper, Kukoč, Paxson, Kerr, Grant). Who did LeBron play with that was better than Pippen, & which HC did Lebron play under that was better than Phil Jackson?

That isn't his point, His point is that when the league adds new teams they always have to add new players AND do a protected draft for each team. So what JJ was saying is that the good teams were always going to be good because the great players got protected from being drafted to a new team, hence why he omitted the playoffs, but the regular season stats from players during this chaotic time should be irregular because teams were constantly going through expansion drafts.

I love when the ol heads start talking ball. I learn so much. I didn’t know that.

​@MmaMadman85 bad teams exists in all Eras.

@@MmaMadman85 Thanks for the clarification. I just thought it was odd he specifically mentioned the Mavs, and then made his point about the league being watered down. So someone without knowledge of the 80s Mavs might assume they sucked during that period, precisely because of the things you mentioned.

This proves jj point

The Win Average of the bottom 5 teams in the league during Jordan's Era was 22 wins... The Win Average of the bottom 5 teams in the league during Lebron's Era is 22 wins... Redick provided ZERO statistics or data to back up his ridiculous claim, no evidence, no insight whatsoever. It's interesting that he failed to bring up the Orlando Magic, given that he was talking to SHAQ! The Magic were one of those 6 'expansion' teams, added in 1989, and they became an incredibly strong and competitive team within only a few years of their addition to the league, drafting Shaq in 1992 and acquiring Penny Hardaway one year later! This 'expansion team' knocked the Bulls out of the Playoffs in 1995! The Miami Heat was another one of the 6 expansion teams, added in 1988. They drafted Glen Rice in 1989 and though they initially endured a few seasons of mediocrity, Pat Riley's arrival as the new head coach in 1995 ushered in the Tim Hardaway and Alonzo Mourning era. Riley drastically transformed the new-look Miami Heat into a defensive-minded juggernaut and they quickly became championship contenders. They progressed all the way to the Eastern Conference finals in 1996-97 where they were defeated by the Bulls. The Heat would go on to become the #2 seed in the East in the 1997-98 season but eventually lost to the Knicks in the Playoffs. The players that joined these 6 expansion teams weren't plucked off the streets, these were professional NBA players already drafted to other existing NBA teams. In an NBA expansion draft, the new NBA teams were allowed to acquire players from previously established teams in the league but not all players on a given team were available during an expansion draft, each existing team was allowed to protect a certain number of their players from being selected, thus giving them the power to retain their 'Star' players. In the 80's expansion for example, the existing teams were each permitted to protect eight players from their roster. Additionally, and this is a crucial point, the new 'expansion' teams had access to high draft picks during the next draft pick depending on their win %! These measures were all put in place to ensure the even spread of talent. Where is the evidence of the league being 'watered down'?! Since his latest attack on MJ and the 80's/90's era, a lot of people are posing this question to JJ, including Udonis Haslem live on ESPN... What about the G League and it's significant impact on the current NBA roster? Over 50% of current NBA players have G League experience and a significant number of current players are signed to two-way contracts. Does that mean that the current NBA is 'watered down'? I would be very interested to hear Redick's response to that question. Any objective and rational person can identify a pattern here... Lebron suffers defeat and like clockwork, along comes a Klutch Sports 'Plant' pushing the next ridiculous MJ narrative, void of any substance... "But...but...but...Jordan played in a watered down league." Klutch are running out of Jordan narratives, each one crumbling quicker than the last! They are becoming so desperate, they are having to recycle old narratives! Remember when JJ stated on live TV a few years back that MJ was being guarded by 'plumbers and firemen'? The only card they have left is to continue trying to diminish Jordan's competition. That's it! That's all they have, now that the Longevity card has failed. It's truly disturbing that Klutch Sports will stop at nothing in their absurd attempts to elevate James to Jordan's level, even if that means having to diminish an entire Era of basketball. Say what you want about MJ but he NEVER used Nike or the Air Jordan brand to tear down another player or to discredit another Era. He respected the legends that came before him and allowed his Resume and his game on the court to cement his legacy.

Y’all blame Lebron for everything 😂

​@@theresaking7020the win average isn't gonna change cuz there's more teams haha he's talking about watering down teams. In the 90's not every team had a superstar and no teams had 2 or 3 like the 70's, 80's and 2000's. Any impediment to MJ people go absolutely bonkers cuz of how obsessed they are with him.

@@datsapaddlin But it's true. Reddick about to be a new Lakers coach LMAO

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Doesn’t take away from his factual statement

​​@@j.pipparker facts hahah you're funny. That's cap .

​@@j.pipparkerJJ would've been like Steve Kerr at best back then. Averaging 6 ppg

@@fcarter3863Kerr could literally only spot up and shoot, jj was flying off screens shooting on the move. He’s leagues about Kerr as a player.

@@2robjenkins Reggie Miller averaged 18 ppg for a career with 6 20+ seasons running off screens in that era. But JJ ain't no Reggie Miller. JJ would average 6 ppg in that era

You’re in your feels. JJ is factually correct

@@mathewdavis2427 No, he's not.

@@melvinhhcp3615yes he is lol? Do you think I he made that up? It’s a fact 6 teams were created during MJ’s era. He didn’t even say an opinion he literally stated fact, and y’all took the bait. MJ cucks

Lebrons era gets “discredited” all the time. everyone says no one plays defense today. which is facts to a degree, but so is what JJ said. to a degree lol

Do you have the same energy for Lebron fans ?????

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That’s just objectively wrong there’s an all time low for fouls and free throws. ESPN continues to spread blatantly wrong narratives

The more u foul the worse ur skills are

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No, the NBA players in the 80's were smoking rocks.

Yeah Lebron's rocks

Get these old heads out of here “foul out for bad breath” That’s just objectively wrong there’s an all time low for fouls and free throws. ESPN continues to spread blatantly wrong narratives

@@mattsell2361 nobody asked you 🤣🤣🤣🤣

​@@mattsell2361 The best basketball content is online. ESPN is drivel. You watch those games and they were calling phantom fouls all game.

He was low key a bust in his era

Cap af🧢😂 if Steve Kerr made it in the 90’s, JJ definitely making it

@@JB-bw8nj 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

@@rjeanes3885 Steve Kerr better than JJ

and MJ wouldnt be in the GOAT conversation if he played today- what is your point?

The real white mamba

I’m just saying, he’s closer to LeBron than we are to him 😂😂

@@nessdagoat#Facts 😂😂😂😂

Wrong it’s Thanasis Antetokoumpo

ALL I KNOW IS GREG OSTERTAG AND BRYANT REEVES ARE TGE GREATEST CENTERS OF ALL TIME!!!

Steve Kerr played in that era, please stfu

And you can say that that era would not do well in this current era, because they lack the skills required. The defense you speak of back than requires literally beating people and they had players on the roster to be goons and nothing more.

go watch a 90s game lil bro. we done w the 90s

It's because he knows deep down that era is more popular and iconic than his will ever be, the superteam Lerbon era will never be thought of as fondly and it eats guys like JJ up.

Y’all need to go watch the 90’s again😂😂 y’all was not that good

he said that in comparison to the 80s because there were alot of superteams

He did !!!

@@jessemiller4970no he didn’t 😂😂 expansion teams automatically waters down competition

@@tkbaku3036and the league added 5 or 6 in a 5 year span.

Not just Rodman ... Stockton, Magic, Bird .... lol.

That’s crazy 😂 watch some playoff games bro. Except the pacers those niggas are trash on defense

Stay off the crack

Can’t even trash talk. But can wear sus sheit 😂

The ball handling today would have those plumbers looking stupid on defense

@@peepoo9171 prolly get called for travel and carries tho lol

He wasn't. He literally said we need to respect those before us and the 90's had hard fouls. Like all 90's fans, when faced with facts, goal post moving & deflection ensues. He debunked absolutely nothing.

@@Reaper13-hi3yoexactly I like listening to 90s old heads blatantly make stuff up it’s funny.

Hard fouls, less skilled & worse shooting doesnt make an era tougher

Jj would have been cut during training camp

Yeah it’s tough to score when teams walk up and down the floor every play and have the least amount of possessions per game in nba history and the players aren’t as good

No. Most people refer to Magic Bird and the Pistons when they say MJs era, but thats not his era. If Anthony Edwards starts winning rings next year will we say the 2020 bubble Lakers were his era? See how that sounds? Ridiculous

Each Team back then had 2 all stars .. An at least 1 HOF active player... Plus handchecking was allowed on defense... End game scores were 70-68.... The toughest era of NBA basketball of all time

There isn't a rule that stops defenders from giving an effort on defense. The very few players who give even a hint of an effort on defense, are immediately elite players in the league.

Yup

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Lmfao then hos we’re busted bro. Keep the bbls aside women now fine af talk ain’t going out like that to know 😂😂😂

​@@BenBankoplease bro, now a days you get men who think they're women, sit down

@@BenBankoit doesn’t matter how cute they are before and now there was no confusion about what a women was or less of a confusion

And they wonder why the modern gets hated when the entire media is old heads hating the modern nba and having nostalgia

"People don't like criticism of the old nba basketball era ???" People don't like undeserved criticism of any era, if the criticism is refuted by stats and other arguments. "But it's OK for people to to say criticism about the new nba basketball era ???" It's OK to criticize any era.

The gate keeping is insane

it's beyond criticism, it's just disrespect at this point. there is a difference.

He’s confident when he’s yapping

He’s a professional talker

How is he wrong though? They never combatted any of his argument just that "Way harden back then!" arguments with no facts behind it

@@user-gc1wj8tt2p He's not wrong in this instance. I think they just get in their feels sometimes. He was completely out of line with the plumbers and firemen line though and a lot of the comments he's made about how strong this era is compared to 80s and 90s. The athleticism and skill argument is so played out btw and clearly only comes from people who've never watched. Footwork and ability to shoot midrange is basically dead in favor of chucking 3s.

Its amazing people still don't know jj is just a salty little man. Always gotta prove a point. What he did and what he does is better than u. That's clearly him. The money probably got to him once he got his first paycheck in the nba. The man is slick with his words. He can argue the sun isn't real and sound convincing . And the dummys will follow

Vice versa lmaoo

Your wrong on that look how many and 1 lebron got in his career, lebron is the best finisher ever, Jordan just looks better doing it

MJ is not rated as the best finisher ever. The new school cats have access to data to prove you wrong. LBJ owned that category 😂

JJ is a sneaky Jordan hater lol though he admitted in his podcast with Tim Legler that for him MJ is still GOAT few months ago. He crying about MJ bec his LeQueen is drinking wine with him in their podcast especially now LA is on their way to Cancun 😂

@@jimmysimon4400 I think you are looking at "at the rim" stats where you will see alot of big men in the list - David Lee and Carlos Boozer for example. It is different than the top finishers.

the logic behind his statement is that the AVERAGE player was not as good as today... He's talking about role players and bench players. dummy

His point was that they had just introduced a bunch of new teams and you can’t expect most of those teams to build a competitive roster that fast. Therefore it makes sense that the league was overall more watered down.

@@BetweenTheLines3 how is that logical?

@@BetweenTheLines3but he later said the Dallas maverick build there team into contenders sooner than they should’ve… so that completely nullifies your stance

Simple fact that teams had give up players to expansion teams means teams less talented

That’s exactly what this is about. It’s basically sacrilege to to say anything bad about players back then, but what JJ said is just basic facts and logic

He literally said regular season not playoffs

Because the league didn’t go around asking plumbers and builder to play basket ball they were pros from other teams man.

Because it's nonsense.

The Win Average of the bottom 5 teams in the league during Jordan's Era was 22 wins... The Win Average of the bottom 5 teams in the league during Lebron's Era is 22 wins... Redick provided ZERO statistics or any evidence whatsoever to back up his ridiculous claim. 6 teams were added over a period of TWO DECADES (4 in the 80's and 2 in the 90's). It's interesting that he never brought up the Orlando Magic given that he was talking to SHAQ! The Orlando Magic were one of the 6 'expansion' teams, (added in 1989) and they became an incredible team within only a few years of their addition to the league, drafting Shaq in 1992 and one year later they acquired Penny Hardaway! This 'expansion team' knocked the Bulls out of the Playoffs in 1995! The Miami Heat was another one of these 6 expansion teams, added in 1988. Glen Rice was drafted to the Heat in 1989 and though they initially endured a few seasons of mediocrity, Pat Riley's arrival as the new head coach in 1995 ushered in the Tim Hardaway and Alonzo Mourning era. Riley drastically transformed the new-look Miami Heat into a defensive-minded juggernaut and they quickly became championship contenders. They progressed all the way to the Eastern Conference finals in 1996-97 where they were defeated by the Bulls. The Heat would go on to become the #2 seed in the East in the 1997-98 season but eventually lost to the Knicks in the Playoffs. The players that joined these 6 expansion teams weren't plucked off the streets, these were professional NBA players already drafted to other existing NBA teams. In an NBA expansion draft, the new NBA teams were allowed to acquire players from previously established teams in the league. Not all players on a given team were available during an expansion draft though, each existing team was allowed to protect a certain number of their players from being selected, thus giving them the power to retain their 'Star' players. In the 80's expansion for example, the existing teams were permitted to protect eight players from their roster. Additionally, and this is a crucial point, these new teams were given access to high draft picks during the next draft pick depending on their win %! These measures were put in place to ensure an even spread of talent. Where is the evidence of the league being 'watered down'?!

Because it wasn’t. Hope that clears it up for you 🙄

Think of it this way, if the NBA adds 6 teams today then 90 players have to be added. So all the players that didnt make the NBA can now get to go to the NBA. Watered down, get it???

I’ve been saying this. Honestly the 80s was better than the 90s

There's 180 more players on today's rosters. Adding roster spots means the next 90 dudes weren't quite NBA level. Add 90 two-way contracts on top of that who definitely aren't quite NBA level without an opportunity makes it even more watered down. Yall don't want to talk about that though.

Exactly. He’s correct but everyone is far too much in their feels to think rationally about it

But 4 of the 6 teams would establish themselves as playoff contenders during the 90’s tho so now teams had to contend with the new teams for a playoff off spot. Shaq and Penny were the result of the expansion and those mfers were doing their thing

Who cares about 5 or so wins in the regular season? It still doesn't make it watered down it's just an inevitable temporary consequence of expanding. It's actually the opposite, adding those teams and adding those additional draft picks and that added competition for players only increases the depth of the league. It'd be like if I was JJ Reddick's shooting coach, and I told him he needs to start learning off ball shooting, and the first year he shoots worse than normal, am I watering down his shot? No, I'm expanding his shot selection, there's just growing pains.

@@luckerooni1153 There are growing pains and that's what waters it down. LMAO yall don't even have real arguments just "90s WAS THE BEST!" hornacek and danny ainge will not play this era.

@@suntansuperman26did you forget the fact that established teams literally got players taken off their rosters to fill the expansion teams. That’s what jj is talking about. It would be like the Celtics having to lose Al horford or the nuggets having to lose KCP

Hope he doesn't waste time with Stephen A. for too long. He should join some real analyst.

Ngl this made me laugh and Im going on 41

😂 look at Udonis face when SA mentions Bad Boy Pistons

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I guess every team is an expansion team then genius.

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Louder for the people in the back!!

"I mean you can’t debate this Lebrons era has been more talented and athletic." Can't debate? This era is less talented and less athletic than the 80's or the 90's. "That happens with every sport, as training, science, etc. evolves players naturally become better" Training is worse now, science has regressed, and the players are worse than ever. "likewise as the popularity of a sport grows, competition to play in that league increases significantly" The popularity and competition level have both gone down. "So yeah there’s no debate the Lebron played against tougher opponents" LeBron played against dynasties in the finals, as did MJ, but MJ's final's opponents mostly weren't dynasties. But there's also worse basketball played in today's era, so tougher opponents can absolutely be debated.

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Agreed

Nah, you just can't lose more championship rounds than you win and be considered the GOAT. 10 years from now we'll have guys like JJ Barea and Jason Terry talking about how they beat the brakes off yall's GOAT. Crazy thing is Lebron is closer to us "old heads" age than most of his fans. We're just calling it like we see it. No bias. The man simply hasn't done what it takes to surpass Kobe in reality let alone MJ.

@@mobb-media so getting to the dance means nothing? I agree 6 is more than 4 but just barely. I’d rather have almost twice as many opportunities to have championships even if it ended up being 2nd place. Jordan hardly did anything in the playoffs before the championships but everyone acts like his career was only 6 years long.

Orlando started in the 90 season. Shaq was drafted after the completion of the 3rd season. So yeah, not 6 years into their inception.

Uh? There was way more all-stars and HOF’s back then, Mj was talking some players not the whole nba… Mj was drafted in 83’ not 86”, none of playoff teams bulls faced had players using drugs.

bird back injury and magic johnsons health made da 90 easier for him

@@nebch2324 research could help you or i could write the names of the players from the 80's to 90's but it would be too much that were either suspended for lengthy time for kicked out of league which in return made teams weaker. i like MJ like everyone else but there were not superstars like the 2000-2010's

@@hooligan5381 huh!? I’m a 80’s baby and from Chicago so I know what mid 80’s player’s played like. These players now don’t care about the game, they just get there money and be out in the league in 6 years

@@nebch2324 you just yapping i don't think you understood anything i said i never said anything about the way players play i said from 86-94 the NBA was watered down cause it was drug riddled this is documented you can look this up. either way MJ deserved everything he got

Facts

JJ is a Lebron jock sniffer. He's a clown.

c'mon man! c'mon man! what are you talkin bout?!? Racist. A Smith averaged 1.5 ppg in college! of course he knows more than JJ! oh wait...

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exactly lol, they’re debating a whole different topic

If you think that's it you don't get it

@@Suge8263 Oh, it definitely is it. You 90's fan will do anything to protect your nostalgia & bias. Jordan plays today he isnt even in the GOAT convo

i'm 28 and i think basketball before adam silver / this player empowerment bs was so much better

@@paulmccarthy4277 anyone who is 28 dosent say “ I’m 28 “ 😂😂😂

I would take all the above over Reddick

Hes not even good enough to play in todays league fucks jj on.... Besides the payroll allegedly​@@ryanward3822

@@ryanward3822Agreed. I shouldn’t have even put Mark Price and JJ Reddick in the same sentence. Mark Price was levels above him as a player.

What does opinion have to do with disrespect?

@@Painintheassss He’s entitled to his opinion but it can still come off as disrespectful to others that’s all I’m trying to get at.

People really think Lebron has a secret society where he spends all day scheming and manipulating people 😂

@mattsell2361 the man has a whole team for that and if you didn't realize that then you are delusional..

@@ryankellz yeah so does like every celebrity it’s call a social media team lebron isn’t special

@mattsell2361 exactly lebron ISNT SPECIAL but the NBA , Clutch sports, etc have treated him as such.. ya Boi got popped using hgh/peds but nothing happened to him.. there are receipts. Amd ya Boi ended up with a tumor in his jaw because of it and had to have 6hr surgery to get it removed. Main reason he wears the rick Ross beard.. that ya man not mine.. that was covered up by ESPN even though it was proven the BALCO CEO admitted it himself. ALSO let's not forget how the nba made sure le Ron's teams got draft picks, free agency exceptions, "play in playoffs", in season. Tourny, the man had to get a sports psychologist because of his anxiety from not performing and winning his first yr in Miami. I could go on amd on but the bronsexuals can't see passed the hair plugs enough to realize how he was carried his while career

They didn't change the facts jj didn't even explain why Jordans era is waters down. Expansion teams are the only reason?

I thought the same thing. He validated everything JJ said.

Lol that's because anytime anything can point to lebron being better jordans camp shuts it down. It pains them to admit it's way harder to win in the last 20 years vs previous eras. That's why there are no dynasties besides GS. In previous eras the same teams kept winning lol. Most teams who won won multiple titles. People are so glaze jordan happy they lose sense

@@johncarloflorentinoexpansion is a huge deal. Imagine every nba team losing a starter and their 6th man. It’d be so much easier for top heavy teams to win. Also, imagine no international players like Jokic, Luka and Giannis playing. It’d be easier to win against lesser competition. Doesn’t take away from MJ’s greatness. He could only beat who was in front of him post-expansion.

Don't worry, I'll do it for him with nothing but facts. An additional 90 players were added when rosters went from 12 to 15. THEN ANOTHER 90 added with 3 two-way contracts per team. That completely nullifies JJ's arguments. Not to mention the G-League having almost 30 teams with players that can be called up at any time. The expansion from 12 to 15 alone nullifies his arguments, the two-way contracts confirm that the league is even more watered down today.

Lebron played when real men played

Please go look up history 4 of the 6 expansion teams were contenders in the 90 the league is watered down now because of g leaguers betting on gamez

​@@DM-sc9rg yep magic, heat, hornets are all contenders

90 new players can not start. It's mathematically impossible.

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How can 90 players start on 6 new teams? What yall wont talk about is the fact that the only new players added to those expansion teams were rookies the vast majority of the time. The every team protected 8 of their 12 players on the roster, everybody else was up for grabs in the expansion draft. Yall act like they found 90 new guys off the street and said "hey you're tall, wanna play in the NBA"? The unwarranted hate for the history of the game is bogus af. But yall going to learn. Wait until people are telling you Harden, Paul, and Westbrook were scrubs.

They getting paid

Yeah that was a topic in the 90s yet people forgot that apparently 😂

You obviously didn't play at a high basketball level if you think jj is right... this Era now is waaaay watered down then the Mj Era

@@marvjay718 watered down with more specialist. So it evens out right? 🙄 argue with ya maw

You def not wrong about the jj hate lol. I just feel like the regular season being “watered down” is irrelevant considering his opponents in the postseason. JJ made a strong point when bringing up the new teams and players but MJ could have gone 300-0 to these teams and it would not have mattered if he couldn’t beat the teams contending for a chip. Which he did beat. Just because the blazers and the pistons were god awful this year doesn’t mean the league was watered down.

You literally can’t play defense nowadays, so is that actually true that teams are better? Or do the rules favor teams being able to put up better numbers versus back then…

steph curry got 4 but MJ wouldnt get 6??lol

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@@Democed keep living in the past oldhead

@@1anth a lot easier to play defense when only one or two players on the floor can shoot 3s

There's more teams and players in the league now, that there were in the 90's.

Stay off the crack

Facts bro and peep how they showed videoclips of Lebron lol. SaS is a sellout and Haslem just sold out imo because maybe his pod ain’t catch fire. Let Bron and JJ call Haslem and I’m willing to bet he’d leave SAS to join them to talk real basketball in a heartbeat. SAS is straight corporate propaganda

Plus 3 two-way contacts adds ANOTHER 90. They don't want to talk about that tho.

You missed the point entirely

@@kingquestOZ there was no point! His argument isn't logical. If his point has merit then what I point out has just as much.