Joe Rogan and the Ethics of Apology (Episode  

When you reject reason imaginary problems are the only ones that you are able to identify

Wrong, conservatives are incapable of solving real problems because they're diametrically opposed to doing so, especially if it requires changing their way of living in even the slightest way.

You mean like russiagate?

@TheReddaredevil223 ... and you’ve completely missed the point. Don’t you realize you’re “cancelling” conservatives in your mind? Don’t you see the arrogance of being the arbiter of what problems are “real”? A little bit of charity goes a long way.

@@TheReddaredevil223 I think you'll be pleased at the level of conservative problem-solving in future decades.

Best line from this

Pinned comment I predict!

I think he said it like this: “Forgiveness is a fuck$&g miracle.”

I was waiting for Sam to use a swear word, waiting.. waiting.. "niggardly" actually gave me a shock lol. Then it was here, in the perfect place. The guy is a freaking phenomenal writer/thinker.

Based.

I hope to live long enough to witness cancel culture become the new racism.

@@kg356 we aint got a problem saying the n word, you're the ones that have a problem putting out a whole circus show with complaints about it.

Rogan for President!

​@@kg356 I disagree. I think the reason, he avoids using the term is because his podcast will become all about, " Sam Harris said the N word while defending Joe Rogan for saying it", and for majority of the people who don't have the time, patience or willingness to listen to the whole podcast, they will just assume that the podcast is about that and that alone, and it will defeat the very point of reaching as many people as possible in a meaningful way.

He thinks it was OK to cover up Hunter Bidens laptop story even if he'd corpses of children in his basement, Sam's gone nuts.

funnily enough, the paradox of trying to takedown his content will make people want to tune in more.

Why the 🇬🇧 lol? has nothing to do with anything right?

Ive never met any of these people you say are everywhere.. are you sure youre not just terminally online and locked in an echo chamber..?

I'm afaid that flag rather betrays your true intentions. I see you....

@@TheNBWarPig it has more to do with it than you would think, sadly

He would be dismissed as being "out of touch" and encouraged to disappear into obscurity.

@@xdwbx “My own opinion is enough for me, and I claim the right to have it defended against any consensus, any majority, anywhere, any place, any time.” ― Christopher Hitchens

Can you imagine him drinking Rogan under the table 😂🤣😂

Free merch > free speech. Investors > Intelligence. AI. Artificial Inflation. Artificial Inflation creates pay-walled-region-locked-time-gated content. We are being priced out of life because of Artificial Inflation.

Sam will be forever influenced by the late and great Hitchens, as I believe most of us are as well.

That really sucks man, if you have the stomach for it you could turn it around on them quite easily, if they're the very sensitive types...but safety first :) I've read the same thing happening with Chinese speakers in the US, as words like 那个(na/nei ge) are commonly used in Mandarin and sound similar too.

There was actually a professor in the US who was suspended because he used the Chinese phrase "na ga" in class. We've reached peak levels of absurdity around this issue.

They were listening to your conversation with your phone, they already were doing something wrong, unless you were being unnnecessarily loud. You did nothing, they did something morally wrong. I hope they ask for forgiveness from you after the clarification, as they should.

"United" States, right? ---Well, not at the moment. If it doesn't return soon, it may be seen as an historical concept and non-existent in current society.

니까 also sounds a lot like the n-word

Amen brother 🙏🏼

I agree totally. I actually really appreciated even Whitney Cummings (who I find a bad comedian and annoying) coming in to defend him. I said years ago the illiberals will come for Joe. And theyll find out he cant be cancelled. And its not just because of how big his platform is. Its because he's built up goodwill with so many people from so many walks of life, from scientists to comedians to Bernie fvxking Sanders. In a weird way its a good thing. People have to realize that you cant just kick and scream to a higher authority when you dont like something. Thats a horrible way for society to conduct itself.

Nay, bro. They aren't real. They are just figments of the imagination of Alex Jones.

@@YourLocalCopiumDealer And so is your mom.

Great testimony for Joe not being a racist, but of all people, Sam is not one who can vouch for Joe because of his own history of not ever, rather hardly ever, interviewing Black public intellectuals - save for ideologues of a very singular ilk. Shame on Sam; he has no credibility in this domain. (Despite his trying to latch onto Joe's bona fides.)

Joe Rogan exists in a post-truth world . He , like Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones , traffics in conspiracy lies . Oh, not exactly " lying " all the time but "lying by omission " or by posing questions that hint at mysteries that don't exist . Hosts can simply let the guests do the lying while they pitch the approving softball questions . The baseless statements come like fastballs . When there is money to be made, the Mike Lindells, Mike Flynns and Joe Rogans will appear everywhere . Then, Rogan censors any posted comments critical of his RU-vid videos .

@@BeefT-Sq Thats a completely bogus take. Alex Jones has been right far more often than he's been wrong, but people, like you presumably, only look at delivery and not content. I actually think Sam was also wrong in condemning Mccullough or Malone. They have been proven mostly correct as well. This entire "pandemic" has been an exercise in control and the "vaccines" have been less than even marginally effective. It is what it is...

you mean support from hacks that have pivoted to the anti-vax grift.

@@adamredden2007 someone has been buying Alex Jones' snake oil infused Brainforce tablets.

@@BeefT-Sq

Upvote, but would prefer it without the f-word. I thought that weakened the statement rather than enhancing it.

I think it's perfect the way it is...let's do it!!

@@RichardSShepherd I agree with you. The f-word leads to a lot of misunderstandings, misses nuances, and often leads to all-or-nothing thinking, so it's hard to do. I prefer "compassion for the things/people we hate". It does not downplay our hatred as unnecessary or "bad", but at the same it it makes room for compassion, even in the hardest of times.

@@RichardSShepherd I couldn't disagree more :) Firstly, I absolutely LOVE the word "fuck" in all its permutations; it truly IS a magical word with spiritual properties, unlike other words ;) Secondly; when it comes from San Harris its a beautiful thing; Sam almost never swears, but when he does its just...

@@WigganNuG don't you mean you couldn't agree more?

True, but I can't blame Rogan. He's under a ton of pressure.

@bobby macallister what exactly did Rogan spread that is so dangerous? For all I know, he brought experts to his show to talk about what they have the credentials for. I haven't seen ANYONE pointing to what exactly is the misinformation Rogan is supposedly spouting.

@bobby macallister 😂😂😂 unlike other trusted experts eg fauci and saying you didn't need masks.

@@abstractnonsense3253 he chose this

Your Bro Oprah did wrong though. I know you like to think he is perfect in every way, but he isn’t.

Sam is the embodiment of pure rationality. I absolutely love it.

I have to piggy back on this as I never leave comments and feel compelled to do so as well. After listening to Sam’s accounting of these recent events, and then reading your comment Oscar, I believe your sentiments mirror mine quite precisely. Thus I need not say much more. Sam, thank you for your always calm, poignant delivery of what I perceive to be precise accuracy on this matter. Wishing Joe Rogan strength and fortitude as he journeys forward! Wishing this for all podcasters doing such important work, and allowing discussion to unfold, uncensored and with curiosity! Namaste!

So him telling Bret Weinstein #17 of ask me anything “there is no compelling reason to worry about safety of these vaccines and no legitimate reason to ask questions in public. This just asking questions routine in public is spreading fear and spoking fear in people who have no rational choice and no ability to think these things through. Your not crazy to think these things but sharing with the public is in bad faith.” Hmm 🤔 guess he doesnt think much of you. (Those are his words)

Get used to it. He's right about everything.

@@christophervasiliades323 you are spot on my wise friend.

Hi Pecos, did you find Sam Harris because he was recently on the Jordan Peterson podcast?

Ayyyy Pecos is here. Epic.

I wrote my first joke a few days ago. A Chimp, orangutang and Joe Rogan was in a theatre, Rogan, being in the position to ask, asked, 'why is the earth round'? The monkey said 'it's something to do with gravity!' The orangutang said, 'there is not enough matter, it's something to do with dark matter!' Rogan said 'I think you are both right but I don't think it is so black and white!' Then said he googled and saw Tarzan was forever, and by the power of deduction thought there must be something before the big bang, upon which he asked, 'what about those Buddhists?'

I love Sam, but nobody calls him Dr Harris.. that's just weird

@@ChrisOBC1 That's where I heard him referred to as Dr Harris - On his recent Jordan Peterson interview, that's why my reply to Pecos Hank said that.

Go outside. Chances are the birds are chirping, and your neighbors are good people.

Same my friend. It's terrible anymore. 😞

@@ChollieDI live 40 minutes away from the rainiest city in europe at the tail end of a long and dark winter. The average amount of sunlight per MONTH is 32 hours…. it’s incredibly windy and chirping birds are nowhere to be found. Just gotta get through it and it will eventually subside, if I could just summon the energy to open up the waking up app again and restart my practice

@@ChollieD and if I were to try and talk to my neighbors they’d think I was psychotic, Norway’s not a very social place

@N A ya if your beliefs are just straight up ima nazi..

Obviously, because he is a narcissist and has inherent demand for validation. He would do anything to keep 99.99$ paying minions mesmerized by his oversimplyifying and esoteric bullshit. P.S: I have never seen an actual academic saying that he got influenced by ideas of sam harris. All he has mustered to influence in his whole life is few far-right political commentators, which also was possible less because of his ideas and more because of 9/11. Most of his followers are minions like you, who are just mini-narcissists who have innate desire to believe that they understand everything, and keep on repeating same talking points verbatim, which sam harris feeds them through his ass

Really? It seems to me that Harris often talks for minutes on end without really saying anything of functional value whatsoever.

@@saimbhat6243 aww, the irony of feeling the need to write an essay to someone you describe as a minion and mini narcissist. How very entertaining, thank you ❤.

@@saimbhat6243 That's interesting, because I've heard on multiple occasions people like Jordan Peterson and Richard Dawkins attribute something they're saying to Sam. It's almost like you don't like him, and that's the only reason you think that... Imagine that.

The phrase; “For any reason in any context”, is just nonsense”. For Joe to make that comment, shows me how disingenuous he is and for Sam to hone in on that, is not surprising to me. There is something Sam doesn’t surprisingly seem to understand! As an African-American, if I’m listening to someone read a book for example, that has the N-word in it, I would expect them to read the word. We’re not stupid, CONTEXT matters! And if Joe doesn’t realize that, he is more stupid than I thought. I think, that he’s just another grifter. Sincere apology? Ha! Ta-Nehisi Coates explains it best here; ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QO15S3WC9pg.html

Elk dmt go brrrt lmao

I would be surprised if even half of his critics had even watched one of his podcasts.

How do you square this with Rogan's "planet of the apes" comment? That sounds like something a reasonable person would call racist. A note on this, I checked the context of this comment about as well as I can. Rogan described walking into a movie theater that was filled with mostly black people and he called them "apes". I'm the context of the comment, just after making the comment, he acknowledged it as being racist supposedly because the movie wasn't set in Africa. In his "apology" on the matter, he made a chain that he was just recalling a movie he enjoyed. Neither post-comment seemed to make any sense to me. He still likened black people to apes which is a deeply racist trope. Another but of context: I like a lot of what Sam Harris says and does including in this video. I commend him for supporting a friend. I may agree with him about the validity of the "n-weird" montage taken out of context. (I say "I may agree" because I don't personally know all of the contexts. I'm prepared to give benefit of the doubt in those.) But this comment that if you think Joe Rogan is racist you have a flawed definition of racism, that really seems like gas-lighting in light of the "planet of the apes" comment.

Yeah. I definitely heard confusion creeping in though.

Said a lot of nothing in my opinion. The public health argument is a joke.

I watched the Joe Rogan videos and the PLANET OF THE APES comment clearly shows he royally screwed up and sounded very RACIST. 🙄

^^ okay .... and?

@@pdcdesign9632 go cry about it

Lemme know the minute you find it, lol. I don't have the comedy skills what so ever to do that skit justice, I'd butcher it. But god damn I so wanna see it when it happens! 😀

The n-word would never be used in the skit, right? So, it _could_ happen. I would think that it would have to be a white comedian for it to work. George Carlin is no longer with us so I'm thinking someone like Ricky Gervais.

Louis CK had a good "n-word" bit

I moved from Utah to Arizona in highschool and made a bunch of black friends. One day they were all trying to make me say it and I finally caved and my dumbass dropped the hard r. I just thought it was like an accent to say it without the r. so embarrassing lol that was the first and last time I've ever said it 😂

Sam definitely has a very soothing voice

exactly my thoughts. i'm really glad to have listened to this today.

Great testimony for Joe not being a racist, but of all people, Sam is not one who can vouch for Joe because of his own history of not ever, rather hardly ever, interviewing Black public intellectuals - save for ideologues of a very singular ilk. Shame on Sam; he has no credibility in this domain. (Despite his trying to latch onto Joe's bona fides.)

I believe that you are referring to "mob mentality" rather than "majority rule". As your comment currently reads, it appears to be Chinese propaganda against democracy!

@@charleswomack2166 Marxist idea of democracy is literally Dictatorship of the majority...

Its majority rule if you dont like it but its the will of the people if you do. If youre pro capitalism how do people still not understand that every aspect of this stuff is purely profit driven and the overwhelming majority of normal ppl dont care about this stuff. Youre just stun locked in twitter land or facebook.

They threw the soldier out because he was black. They were in Alabama and he was uninvited.

@@charleswomack2166 That's right. It's not like the torch and pitchfork-carrying mob had first met at the church for punch, cookies, and debate before voting to kill the monster.

With all due respect, we should probably be thinking critically about the fact that we now live in a culture where opinions are only legitimately expressible once they've been backed up by Black Ph.D.s. The simple existence of those two supporting examples alone should _not_ be considered a good enough argument to convince an academic of anything, one way or another. Their race is (or at least should be) incidental. Period. In the most non-cynical way I can say this, it's a real problem that we've become so fixated with superficial credibility in matters of expression. For one, argument from authority is antithetical to science; secondly, suppression of opinion is downright corrosive to both honesty _and_ democratic process, whether the opinion being suppressed is legitimate or not. The tendency to perk up our eyes enthusiastically whenever we hear of support from the Black Academic community for any position that we might otherwise be too reserved to express should be a cause for alarm.

What do you think about Trevor Noah's perspective on this? Thanks. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-D5SYrX41BtA.html

Yeah his blatant bigotry is super delightful

@@pocket83squared I agree with you completely. The only reason why I mentioned two black PhDs is because (1) most of Sam Harris' listeners are Lefties who think that race is the end all and be all (I think it's irrelevant or only mildly informative) and (2) because the Left believes in "lived experience" which is only anecdotal evidence and eschews the Enlightenment ideas of reason and empircal evidence. So that final comment was in anticipation of Lefties who I assumed would challenge me. Now, it's completely valid to challenge my assumption that most of Harris' listeners are Lefties. I haven't seen any data but when I've listened to his podcasts from time to time and read the comments, seems like much of his listenership lean toward the Left's worldview ... not completely but they seem to be very deferential to collective identity markers. Personally, I'm an MLK fan. I think that race has something to do with who we are but it is only one component of many. I am not white and I certain don't look at life through a racial lens. It's only when race gets brought up that I have to put myself into the filter.

@@pocket83squared Yikes, I responded already to your comment but just now realized that it was much longer: I did not hit the "read more" button. After reading your full comment all I can say is that you are 110% correct and that I've been preaching this for 30 years. As a tactical move, I always bring up black academics to bolster my comments in and outside the classroom because (1) I cannot make any comment relating to black folks as a non-black person without getting accused of racism by my students and colleagues and (2) there is this pervasive belief among the woke in California that all black people are poor, undereducated, victims of society, etc. consequently when I bring up black intellectuals and put their faces on the projector who agree with me .. such as Dr. Thomas Sowell, Jason Riley, et al or even historical figures like Booker T. Washington then I am taken seriously. I'm living in a milieu in which people's arguments are only valid or not valid contingent upon one's skin color and its position on the woke "hierarchy of oppression" which is explicitly taught in classes. It's a devilishly anti-intellectual and dishonest way of looking at the world but such is the state of affairs in the halls of academia in California. One of my intellectual heroes is Douglas Murray who wrote books and who was interviewed probably thousands of times and nobody knew he was gay until one of his interviewers asked him directly. Douglas said 'yes, I am.' Then the interviewer asked, 'why have you kept this a secret?' To which Douglas Murray responded (paraphrasing,)' it's not a secret, my personal social network has always known. However, my sexuality should have nothing to do with my ideas. My arguments should be evaluated on their logic irrespective my personal experience or identifications.' I have never forgotten that interview; his integrity and virtue stands head and shoulders above almost everybody in today's America.

I'll never understand why Joe didn't just create his own network. He could have brought a load of his regular guests over, like Ari, Tom Segura, Tony Hinchcliffe, Randal Carlson, heck even Jordan Peterson, given them all their own shows and set up a near rival to RU-vid, free of big corporate shenanigans. Such a wasted opportunity, though maybe will still happen.

Here here. 👍

I agree. Completely. I always say the same thing, why can’t we get world leaders like Sam, it would literally be a different world!!!

Would be nice to see Sam have Either of the DR.s on his podcast… if he’s confident in his knowledge of that subject. Why not have them on and have a science based discussion. The science changes by the month on this subject over the last 2 years.

@@philosopher0076 What is Sam's philosophy?

@@keithboynton I was referring more to Dr Malone… Speaking of outliers though, throughout history many people who were regarded as outliers during their period of existence were later on seen as ahead of their time. Regardless, someone like Sam…you would think would be open to a scientific discussion at the very least. All he has to do is prepare he’s an extremely smart guy. He can lay the evidence out… if Sam wants to pull in a virologist to debate him that seems like a great idea as well. Shutting people down isn’t the answer. Again if you don’t feel that Sam has high enough credentials to question Dr. Malone in his field of expertise, bring in outside help. By challenging Malone, we could see something very interesting…

He will. He respects Sam.

Yes, don't ever apologize for using a word in a non offensive way.

Glad you find your own words so amusing.

@@Corn_Pone_Flicks was actually Sams words

Dont laugh too hard. You could very much be in the "Im way too online, and being woke is all I can keep up with" camp.

@@treborkroy5280 I mean, it accurately describes the majority of IDW types

@@treborkroy5280 I could? Ya I’m not, thanks for your concern

When you say you walked into the “planet of the apes” because of the fact that the movie theater you went to was filled with black people…it kinda is.

@@Vandetta333 Good luck finding a funny comedian that has never said a racist joke.

@@Vandetta333 I agree that was appalling and Joe is ashamed of that. That was a long time he has asked for forgiveness. Did you not listen to Sam's commentary?

Listen to what jacko willink said about him..

@@SeKo1844 I just did🤗, Thank you.

One of the first people to defend Rogan was Yeonmi Park, someone who escaped from a communist country. Those who lived it can see what’s going on. And they know the enemy.

@@worthloss7855 I went to search for it and ended up watching her over 2-hour long conversation with Dr Peterson instead and my gosh. I was not ready for how intense it was. Thank you.

I wrote my first joke a few days ago. A Chimp, orangutang and Joe Rogan was in a theatre, Rogan, being in the position to ask, asked, 'why is the earth round'? The monkey said 'it's something to do with gravity!' The orangutang said, 'there is not enough matter, it's something to do with dark matter!' Rogan said 'I think you are both right but I don't think it is so black and white!' Then said he googled and saw Tarzan was forever, and by the power of deduction thought there must be something before the big bang, upon which he asked, 'what about those Buddhists?'

He has nothing to apologize for. If anything Sam is the one who needs to apologize for supporting censorship and being anti free speach

Agreed, but most the people hating on Joe are atheist leftists

Sam Harris went from telling the world black people are dumber than white people, to defending offensive and ridiculous insults to a tired and non understood people. The apology was not for you, because you've never been called an n, nor were your ancestors oppressed whiled being called that. You coming on here and giving your opinion on the apology is like when Ken Paxton filed a lawsuit with the supreme court about a law that was not in his state nor affected his state. You have no standing, you have no grievance, you have no casualty, other than the discomfort of the idea that maybe you are more part of the problem than the solution. f off with your constant white knighting of people who are constantly prodding people who haven't been given a break for 403 years now. I wish Christopher Hitchens was alive and around for BLM, Charlottesville, Trump vs Hillary, corona, afghan withdrawal, and so many things, but more than anything, so that he could witness and critique the descent of your fabricated and masturbatory stature since the Bill Maher episode and the TYT episode. To see you squirm and cling for a grasp of sanity with worms like David Frum and Dave Rubin. You my sir Sam Harris have gone a very long way to ensure history will remember you as a clown. It is a good thing atheism is not a religion, because representatives like you are a terrible look.

It wasn't a gift, it's a skill he learned.

@@tylerwatrouse8602 You seem upset for some reason. Everything okay big man?

@@Bilow_Selhi yea im good but you have something brown on your nose

@@tylerwatrouse8602 Good job taking Sam Harris out of context.

Sam telling rogan how to do pr? Like in dead babies? Skulls? Children in the basement? You can't make this up.

true

we need a new sargon-devon tracey podcast episode

Oh how I need to see a conversation between you two.

This is sargons only comment on this channel

Hey i know you

It's funny, reading the mother's quote, I felt uncomfortable, until you said she was based on your mother. I also assumed you were white. It's my own hypocrisy I guess, assuming your race , when you said you were a novelist (as if all novelists are pale) and whites "aren't supposed to write like that".

@@alex-qd6of Is that kind of response learned or what? We didnt use to be so on high alert to be offended over such things. It cant be healthy for ones mental state.

Perfect example and perfectly articulated.

@@alex-qd6of Thing is, it shouldn't matter if he was white. Period.

no knock, get the glock

@@jackworthington5205 That doesn't end well for the resident in the home when they no knock.

@@ricknash3055 Well if you don't do anything about it, they keep doing it.

@@larymcfart4034 Understand your well-intentioned perspective but using the glock guarantees there won't be any concern about them keep doing it.. cuz you're dead.

@@ricknash3055 Agree, but you went out on your own accord, yeah your dead buy there is freedom and validation in death by stand for what you believe in. If all we do is fear death at all cost then the one who has power over us wins everytime.

Sam is quite honestly my favorite person with whom I disagree considerably. I love hearing him speak, I admire his thinking, and in a strange way he tends to aid in strengthening my faith. I love the man, and would love to shake his hand and tell him “thank you for existing.”

I wish this were required listening for all of America!Flawless and complete. Awesome!

@@freeman7079 that’s very interesting and I feel very similarly.

@@freeman7079 He strengthens my lack of faith in a God, and I thank him for it!

What do you think about Trevor Noah's perspective on this? Thanks. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-D5SYrX41BtA.html

He has one fear... “platforming” Robert Maloney.

Except if you dare question the official Covid narrative

I don’t know. He flat out refuses to talk with his former “friends”, such as Bret Weinstein, just because of their ideals don’t align. Seems very odd to me.

Well said

@@1Deep43VA And have you listened to a single word he has said on *why* he is doing that? Because he has spent considerable air time addressing this “concern.”

It'll be followed by greater craziness. The more attuned to each other people become, the more chaotic the world gets. And -- at least in this phase of social history -- attunement is a one-way street, and as the weeks pass the traffic cops are handing out bigger and badder tickets while the civil engineers are narrowing the sidewalks. Do not obstruct the traffic.

It's beginning ;)

Or implicitly or explicitly of better quality?

@@drts6955 How can something be of better quality if you can no longer be sure if what you are getting is true?

@@Nimuel Do you mean how can something be of better quality if an effort is made to ensure the information given is of better quality?

Rogan can’t be canceled Though . He has ‘fuck you’ money . Please understand this

@@drts6955 How do you define "better" quality?

one should never bow to these people. it just makes things worse.

But we have to masochistically whip ourselves because Joe said the bad word.

@@TheLotionInTheBasket Like sharks when there is blood in the water.

@joseph deutsch cool poem bro

I agree but at the end of the day as long as Joe wasn’t forced to do it then it’s his life and his business. I’ll support this guy and anything he chooses to do, there’s nobody else on this earth who was provided me with more entertainment over the past decade.

I think you mean "the f word"

There are few people I truly admire and look up to. Sam Harris is at the top. Joe Rogan might be coming in second :)

When he mentioned the bit about joe letting certain people speak about the coof on his podcast could do harm considering his huge audience my take is what more damage can he do? that the government has already done to the entire population the measures did more harm and created ripple effects that will be felt for generations.

@@BB-mq9qk John Hopkins study found that the lockdowns saved .2% of lives throughout their duration. Imagine the economic impact on families and small businesses, mental health, physical health. The lockdowns were abhorrent and inexcusable, and the people who instituted and championed them will NEVER apologize. Madness.

@@kylecasey7890 saving lives wasn’t the sole impetus to the lockdowns, it was preventing hospitals from being overwhelmed. you can want to eschew all of the negative unintended consequences from them, but without functional, well staffed hospitals and medical facilities, societal breakdowns would be even worse and last even longer than the problems we’re currently facing.

@@BB-mq9qk They would rather deny it than admit it, that's why efforts are being made to silence anyone who questions the decisions that have been made.

@@iphner43 “preventing hospitals from being overwhelmed” is a dead argument I suspect your not up to date with the amount of collateral damage these measures have caused and how much negative affect it has created for generations of families, businesses across the globe and to think that was a good trade off just to protect an already under staffed broken hospital system in America is absurd.

what a fuckin fanboy. who gives a shit? why are you emotionally involved with your boyfriend rogan? no 1 cares, rogan probably got burned & heckled worse when he was doing his shows

@@icarus0206 I believe we call it compassion. Who knows though. I could be making the word up 🤷🏼‍♂️

Me too.

Never liked him, never will.

@@LWT1331 your loss.

Boom

He isn't nearly as bright as he thinks he is. He derives all his values from the Judeo Christian tradition and then says he doesn't believe in God. Hes an absolute clown

Apologies for the long response. Your post got me thinking. I've been called the N word by someone who actually meant it. I've heard the word used in casual conversations by white people and by black people. Didn't like it either of those times. I hate that word! Not just because of the dark history associated with it, but the fact that a f'ing word can have so much power over me and other black people. It's like our collective subconscious has been hijacked & we're experiencing a form of group PTSD whenever we hear it. A word shouldn't have that much power over anyone. Reminds me of something Chappelle said in one of his standups. If he went into KFC & the person at the register asked him if he wanted something followed by the N word. Dave said he wouldn't walk out just because the guy said that. Not if he's hungry. A word only has as much power as someone gives it. There's a lesson in putting things in their proper perspective hidden in what he said. I agree 100%! Was Joe wrong to use it? Yes, definitely. Should he have been more sensitive to the situation he was creating? Perhaps. The planet of the apes thing was definitely a bad look, even if he realized right after. He messed up, no doubt. Do I think he's racist? No. Here's what gets to me though; Joe has had on multiple black people on his show, from scientists & doctors, to comedians & actors, to a black guy who had an inspiring story about how he became friends with a klan member who began to see the error of his ways after their conversations together. Are all of those people racist apologists or sympathizers now? Is Dave Chappelle or David Goggins (friends of Rogan & who are known for keeping it real 100% of the time)? I find the timing of this especially suspicious. All of those clips have been around for years. Yet, they didn't make a big deal of it before. Now that he has voiced his concern about the COVID vaccines & supported alternative methods of protection against COVID, they have it out for him.

So sam is fine with Joe Rogan apologizing because he's a comedian and a neutral political party. But if it was someone Sam Harris didnt like or anyone associated with Trump or the Republican partyh it would be because theyre racist. Thats what he's saying that ive been thinking

@@012345678940975 Youre right. And thats the problem. The complaint is just a cancel culture move. India Arie put that compilation together...right about the time she pulled her music off spotify to protest joe rogan

@@raptango_na6199 Exactly! It comes across as so disingenuous. Just looks to me like India Arie cares more about money actually. And I'm calling bs on this witch hunt. It's an obvious hit piece that has nothing to do with the original issue they had with Joe. Which was about COVID. That wasn't working, so they're trying this garbage now, and during black history month mind you. Just pisses me off that so many black people are going to see that compilation and take the bait. They're going to jump on the he's a racist bandwagon without caring to look further into it.

How is the rage dishonest? So y'all are downplaying black people feelings. Don't worry. Keep showing your true colors

One of the rare voices of reason. A gentleman and a scholar. I would like his book The Moral Landscape to be studied in our public schools.

@@yetanotheryoutuber4271 You are correct, but given the still regnant and wrong association of religion and morals, it wont be for a very long time.

Yes, indeed.

@bobby macallister No, it wasnt, and here are two black Professors saying so. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oC7CCqqPOyo.html

@bobby macallister Random insults thrown with no actual explanation. Nothing of value

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i was actually very upset with the nature of rogans apology, and to be honest i felt betrayed by his response. i am so dam tired of words being treated with a level sacred. a word is a word. it's a tool to express a communication. context at which a word is used should be the sole premise by which moral and ethnical standards and judgement should be relevant. thank you again for helping me forgive joe and remain hopeful with respect to credibility. love you sam. keep up the good work brother

What do you think about Trevor Noah's perspective on this? Thanks. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-D5SYrX41BtA.html

Sorry, but I think you missed the point.

I watched the Joe Rogan videos and the PLANET OF THE APES comment clearly shows he royally screwed up and sounded very RACIST. 🤐

​@@pdcdesign9632 oh no, some e-celeb said some words that made you sad :( Have you tried turning off the video and taking a walk outside? But all of this is our fault. We are here rationalizing the behavior of these children, taking their emotional outbursts seriously, cowering to their demands, when they deserve nothing but being laughed out of the room. Sam Harris is complicit.

@@pdcdesign9632 Umm no...if you hear the phrase planet of the apes...and you think of black people exclusively. you are the racist.... Rogan describes himself as an ape pretty regularly. and if he does that and unself-consciously used it to describe a particular group of rowdy people who happen to be black *and it fits that situation, That's the definition of post-racial consciousness* I say it too...people are apes, savages, barbarians, animals, and absolute donkeys, Rogan is a jacked gorilla...look at him.... at some point the weird association with apes being mono-racial...likely says more about you and a shrill group of grievance finders with an antique cause-du-jour...than with whatever fast and loose fella that spoke it