Sam Harris Speaks About Jordan Peterson's Views 

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When Jordan was asked who his smartest opposition is, he said Sam. There is a lot of respect between the two. They're both great.

I was an atheist from the start and still am. I've consumed about 500 hours of Sam Harris content first, then started listening to Jordan Peterson. Harris taught me how to notice and uderstand my emotions and how to be happy with the present moment. Peterson taught me what my long-term priorities and needs are and helped me understand how to live in a way that is more productive to society. Listening to Harris was intelectualy stimulating, but did not really impact my life in a big way, other than making me a bit more happy in general. Listening to Peterson completely transformed the way I live and actualy "changed my life", making me a better person in all aspects of life.

When I found out about Sam Harris, it was such a pleasant surprise. Not that I've watched every content of his, but the ones I've seen/heard so far almost gave me the feelings as if he were reading my mind.

SH: Two times three equals six. JP: Two times three equals the intangible evanescent process of unknowable numeracy linked to the transcendence of the highest hierarchical integral foundation of the ultimate structure of our being.

Sam was my gateway into bettering my life about six years ago where he taught me to become more spiritual and subsequently spend hundreds of hours meditating. This opened my mind to the possibility of a more meaningful and purposeful life by changing my orientation to it. I then found Peterson where I spent hundreds of hours consuming his content and seeing him live, twice, and feel the development I made by listening to Sam and through meditation allowed me to deeply hear Petersons message and change the way I live my life, not just the way I feel about my life. I’ve woken up with the explicit goal of bettering myself for the sake of my future and those around me for several years now, thanks to these intellectual titans.

Sam and Jordan are both brilliant in a fairly wide variety of topics. I always want to know what both of them think about issues. I also disagree with both on various things. It made me happy to hear they have no bad blood between them. At least on Sam's side.

'They needed some language to help them midwife their delivery into the clear light of reason' - this is an insightful recognition of where much of his value lands. For myself, listening to the likes of Sam, Dawkins, Hitchens and Fry, helped me clarify my thoughts on the role the religion played, and is playing in the world. I cannot thank them enough. There is no more powerful gift that I can think of, than leading others to think in a rational way.

I wish someone like Sam would talk about Peterson before and after his severe medical problems. It seems as if JP has gone in a different direction since.

I used to be a hardcore Sam Harris fan, I believed him when he said free will is an illusion, while that still may be true this belief did not aid me at all, infact I believe it made me nihilistic. It wasn't until I decided to take responsibility into my own hands and believe I had a choice in my life that I was able to turn myself around. I have Jordan Peterson to thank for that. While I still respect Sam greatly (and use his awakening meditation app) I am much more of a Peterson fan now. What you believe to be surely true has far more impact on your life then what may actually be true, because it affects your choices.

I like how Harris is basically implying that Peterson is in a bubble because Harris got off of twitter and no longer sees what people are saying about him and only listens to to "channels" he choses to. What an interesting way of actually making you seem well informed when you are the one who chose to tune out your critics. FYI it wasn't just that one clip from the podcast that made many of us doubt your adhesion to your ethics or principles.

The production is impressive and basically so good that it becomes comic. It’s a mix between thriller interrogation scene and RPG cutscene aesthetics.

“Midwife their delivery into the clear light of reason” Sam is a master of condescension & subtle insult

Respecful debate between intellects has always been a treasure. There hasn't been enough of it. These days, if people disagree they just hurl ugly insults.

Thanks for this Chris. I'm right leaning and I like Jordan Peterson a lot. It's nice to hear Sam talk here and he's obviously very sharp as well. I think I had a biased against him because some buddies of mine started worshiping him a few years ago so I kind of overcorrected and went hard into Jordan Peterson. I'm trying to live my life more openly when it comes to my information so i'm excited to hear this full podcast.

I was one of the people who's intellectual and spiritual awakening was in many ways caused by the conversations between Sam and Jordan. I'm very grateful to Sam for all the rumination he has given me. I think the Hunter Biden thing was more than a ridiculous thing to say, but I'm still grateful. I don't think there's much juice left to squeeze though, and that's why they don't talk anymore. Jordan has moved on to something more traditional, Sam still thinks what he thinks. There's other avenus to explore for fans that are more profitable

I love both Sam's and Jordan's and how different they are, two people who've opened my mind to many, many important ideas.

We need intellectuals who can rapidly adapt and change their minds on things. Sam and Jordan debates were great because they were challenging. They should discuss NON-religious/NON-atheist topics simply due to how eloquent they both are.

Shoutout to the production crew. This looks as cinematic as most major films. Well done!

I discovered Harris, Peterson, psychedelics and buddhism all around the same time. Sam is absolutely right about psychedelics, I started as an athiest and a very unspiritual person. Psychedelics unlocked spirituality for me as Harris describes here. I am still an athiest, but have adopted buddhism, and a lot of Peterson's philosophy and mindset on living a meaningful life.

This guy was easily the 5th best Batman in the last 50 years of Cinema.

At minute 5 I realized I have no idea what was the question and what Sam is going on about. Yep cant wait for the 3 hour ep

It's amazing how he and Maajid Nawaz started the same tour together and ended up at opposite positions on everything in the years that followed.

I am happy to say I agree with Sam on nearly everything. He describes my positions more eloquently than I ever could.

I would love to see Sam and Jordan do another talk. On a completely separate note, Sam's bicep game is on point.

Sam Harris been doing those 8 hour arm workouts lately 💪

Claiming that Peterson inhabits an echo chamber while, in the same breath, saying how he attempts to maintain his own ... eeeeesh ... there's a great difference between having intellect and posessing wisdom.

I appreciate the juxtaposition of their viewpoints. I hope Sam and Jordan dont become intillectual enemies because BOTH of them have changed my life in very fundamental ways. I appreciate how different they are because it proves there is no one way to think. It is in the grappling of difficult ideas that we move forward. Grapple on.

Love Sam Harris' precise conversation on intellectual topics! Always learning something new when listening to his podcast :)

Haven't heard sam in 3-4 years. Looks like he has been working out.😅 Though his face looks like he has aged quite a bit.

Love listening to a wide range of intellectuals. Sam is the one where I am almost 100% in line with his thinking but Peterson, Dawkins, etc are all important listening...and oh do I miss Hitchens.

The irony of Sam accusing Joe and Jordan of being in an echo chamber-citing their views on mRNA and covid-while he refuses to debate literally anyone who holds those views.

For a guy who understands steel manning that characterization of Rogan and audience capture is a crazy statement…

Regarding his Hunter Biden controversy, Sam said "In my world, and in every channel I care about literally nothing had happened" So, everyone around agrees with him? That sounds a lot like and echo chamber.

I always loved his poise and the respect he showed his opponents, in my opinion that is the professionalism that all fighters should aspire to.

Sam's Waking Up app transformed the way I meditate. Jordan's lectures transformed my goals and how I live. And the debates between them, which I watched multiple times, transformed the way I approach conversation. I'm grateful to both these men

Sam had this to say about Jordan Peterson and Joe Rogan. "In my view they're in a contrarian echo chamber" But Sam removed himself from Twitter. Thus separating himself from those who disagree with him. Joe has invited him to debate Bret Weinstein about his and Sam's opposing view points. Even if Joe was in an "echo chamber" he invited someone who wasn't in it to speak. Yet, Sam hasn't come on to debate his views.

Both Sam, and Jordan is hard not to like very much! Seems both like two really good guys! Could listen to them both for hours.

I was unaware Jordan and Sam were in a relationship, I hope they can work through their struggles

Can't wait for the full episode!

Come on, nobody comes up to Sam Harris crying while telling him he changed their lives.

I can't come to terms with someone as "intelligent" as Sam thinks he is when he hasn't shred of humility or even basic awareness. Without these two things, you can't be someone I admire for their insight. And it's not like he backed down from his ridiculous opinions, he's doubled down every time. Get a clue, Sam.

I dont hope for any kind of rekindled relationship, unless Sam can somehow get through to Jordan. I dont know how genuine Jordan is in the first place either though.

Sam’s ideas have lost their luster. It doesn’t hold up across time, which is an indication that his ideas are weak upon deep investigation.

Imagine a blind test of Sam's quote (4:07 and on) against some generic New-Age BS. How many people will be able to tell the difference?

I find amazing how Sam truly believe that he is in the 'center'.

As someone who has appreciated both Sam and Jordan, I would pay a lot of money to see these two costar in a two and a half men parody.

the color grading in this video is fantastic. Also, Sam still got it. I don't necessarily agree with every point he makes, but he is difficult it ignore in public discourse.

All three of these men have had such a wonderful effect on my life and mind. Differences have only accelerated my growth. Thank you!

Sam always sounds profound without being originally profound

I truly 🙏🏻 wish and hope Sam Harris to be back and/or more present. He brings a different yet important aspect and perceptions of life. He’s incredibly sensitive, most probably why he chose to disconnect from the “wild west” of social internet media. And truly wish JBP to demonstrate more empathy/compassion to SH.

*ROFL Harris: Those who thought I lost it, were Right of Centre...* *Reality: Every Libertarian who believes in Democracy, thought he lost his mind.* *I peed my self a little bit when Sam said: All these people are stuck their little Bubbles.* Alas, it is not his fault, he believes he doesn't have freewill, so I guess its easy for him to put responsibility for his choices on other peoples shoulders.

Can’t wait for this. I’ve heard you mention wanting to have him on for years. Proud and not surprised that you made it happen.

I'm looking forward to the full episode, I just hope that he can finally accept that he has blind spots and bad takes just like everyone else. A bit of humility would go a long way with this enlightened one 😄

It’s crystal clear those debates with Peterson led Sam to reconsider Christianity. There’s no denying it, folks: the man’s been doing preacher curls.

Interviewer: "So you live in California, right? How's the weather there?" Sam *43 minutes later*: "...which is why, given the subjective and alterable nature of reality, the question in it's original state just doesn't make sense. Also it's been raining."

Sam makes some of the most ironic statements I've ever heard.

Sam strikes me as a man stuck in a perpetual cycle of “we can’t let the stupid people win” as of late.

Great insight at the end in speaking of the great need for institutions and media outlets that we can trust post Covid, and that we are just not going to get there with podcasts and newsletters. Now to commenters and listeners, what about the action items?

I started out as a Hitchens fan by watching his debates in the early 2010's, and that's how I came across Sam Harris. I have been a fan of his cool articulate intellect ever since. I discovered Jordan Peterson much later, about 2015, just as he was publishing his Maps and Meanings Lectures on RU-vid and the beginnings of his Bill c-16 issues were taking place. I am big fans of them both, I even remember posting an email to Sam's socials saying something along the lines of "you and Jordan Peterson should have a discussion, about literally any topic, I'm sure it will be fascinating" Both Sam and Jordan had done podcasts with Joe (another podcaster I got turned on to because of Sam, and Graham Hancock) immediately before they had their first chat, which turned out to be a bit of a misfire. As much as they see themselves as different from each other, and they are to be sure, I see them as being very similar too. like they are both trying to say the same thing, but using a different dialect. Sam's background as a neuroscientist gives his ideas a kind of 'outside in' perspective, like he is trying to understand consciousness by studying the mind externally, like trying to study the brain to better understand consciousness and thinking in terms of neurons and brain regions etc. whereas Jordan being a Psychologist seems to come at the same problem from a kind of 'inside out' perspective. ie he trying to study consciousness to better understand the brain, ie the idea of Jungian arc types representing the collective experiences of millions of humans all experiencing the operations of similar brain structures, and experiencing it as collectively shared behaviours and beliefs. Personally I am an atheist, so I interpret Jordan's religious references as a combination of metaphors and philosophical treatises, I actually think that is how Jordan interprets them too, I don't think he is a biblical literalist, though I may be wrong on that. That is where I think some of the disagreement comes from between the two, Sam spent his early online career with Hitch arguing against a literal interpretation of the bible. so when Jordan says the things in the bible are true, he means it, but only as Obi Wan would say, true from a certain point of view. I think they both have a lot to offer the world, they are both fascinating and they both believe in the importance of freedom of speech and respecting facts and science. I also think that they are both a little swayed by their respective echo chambers, but I think they are both able to keep their vision clear for the most part too. I personally would love to see them have another debate, or rather a conversation where neither party was trying to win points, or appeal to their fans, but just listen and learn from each other. I think that would be something to see.

I enjoyed both but Jim Rohn for ever be one of my all time favorite speakers. That man changed my life that I will forever be grateful for.

Sam mixed up Joe's response and Peterson's response. Peterson was the one who still had hope for Sam's comeback.

Chris's skill to just sit and listen for long periods of time is commendable. I fell off the sam Harris bandwagon a long time ago with his tds. I guess he really still has it.

Just as Harris was describing what happened to him on Twitter and Jordan's alleged belief that Harris had gone off the rails, what advert should pop up but solutions to _stuck poop._ What does it mean?

I'll reserve judgment until the full episode, but I'm concerned. I like a lot of what Sam has said throughout the years, but I'm increasingly getting the feeling that I will never hear the words "I was totally wrong on this" from his mouth. His stance change on Biden as the adult in the room does not quite qualify. Just like with Richard Dawkins who I also respect, what I expect from the "greatest thinkers of our time" is the ability to admit fault, straight up without excuses. However great your mind is, and however well thought out your arguments are, you are not immune from getting it wrong. I just want to hear an earnest admitting of fault occasionally, otherwise I find it impossible to take the rest seriously.

It's insane to see him complain about Peterson's bubble and not acknowledge his own. He literally suggested on the Triggernometry podcast that he was basically glad that information important to the common voter was actively subverted by our news media institutions at the behest of the leftist sphere. I hope this is addressed at some point in the podcast.

Great point at the end. I think humanity suffers from the inability to believe two things at the same time.

I doubt Sam would be so charitable towards JP if he still had a twitter account. The man has gone completely off his rocker.

Great guest. Will be looking forward to the full podcast next week. His conversation with Jordan on the nature of truth is still one of my favorite debates of all times. Hopefully they get together in the future and talk about philosophy (well, anything but politics. I don't care for either of their political views)

I sincerely think he believes himself objective and consistent, and then he says things like, "contrarian echo chamber." He's so self assured he misses his oxymoronic, contradictory positions while being dismissive of others pov.

Jordan really helped me out a few years back. I discovered him, like many did, when he caught attention for his public resistance of woke ideological nonsense. Then I found his other work like 12 Rules for life, his lectures... Fantastic, gave me a lot to think on. But his turn to religion of recent years really concerns me, and has somewhat turned me off him. I've seen people say that they used to be atheists until discovering his biblical series, and are now Christians. This is very concerning, considering he does not actually believe in god himself, as he all but admits when pushed, and just has a passion for the literature and an appreciation for the values it presents. He seems to advocate for belief in this literature being warranted based purely on the (subjective) value and meaning it gives people, and that the only way of finding meaning, and the only way to have a solid moral guidance, is to sign up to this ideology. He's went from admirably being an oponent of ideology and belief that contradicts reality (Transgenderism, feminism etc.) To fully embracing an ideology. His slimey use of "Well it depends what you mean by..." and his utter refusal to answer certain questions at all, let alone in a clear manner, is honestly just embarassing to watch.

They are both incredible people. They have helped me navigate different subsections of my life. Both have my utmost respect!

For all his criticism of others, Sam missed the mark in a major way several times over the last couple of years and still refuses to take a step back and take a hard, honest look at those moments, and more importantly, himself. Until then, I'm honestly not so interested in what he has to say anymore. It's too large a blind spot, or worse, character flaw, for me to gloss over. There are also many presuppositions in Sam's arguments that he's completely unwilling to critically examine, let alone budge on, which made his debates with Jordan grating to listen to as they quickly devolved into an intellectual jiu-jitsu match of semantics. They argue from a different epistemological framework, and Jordan is willing and able to view things from Sam's perspective, whereas Sam is not willing to cross that bridge. It's a highly unpleasant form of arrogance combined with close-mindedness that becomes very apparent once you get past being impressed by Sam's verbal intelligence.

Both Sam and Jordan are important. A person who knows how to filter through information can understand that both don’t necessarily contradict each other, but compliment. Both have impacted my life in a big way. All I’ll say about Jordan is that he amplifies certain topics I don’t find necessary and the truly profound (imo) are not as highlighted and so, I think he can do better in prioritizing information. He could use less air time and a few breaks. Sam, is probably one of the most excellent communicators I’ve ever come across. That alone has changed the way I talk about pretty much everything in my life. His meditation app saved my life and a few of those around me. He has made me less successful employment wise in the short term, but overall a better human. The world doesn’t revolve around treating others well and unconditional love- and so I’ve suffered a little financially. But otherwise, im doing better, so it’s a decent trade off. Both are important and not necessarily at odds. In terms of trust in institutions and the media- he talks vaguely and carefully as he should- but ALOT of work needs to be done in those fields. I don’t think anyone has good enough ideas where to start.

This marks the 6th time I've heard Harris alude to the failures of our public health and media institutions. I've yet to hear him utter a single *example* of any of these failures. The reason for this is that he fears the citizenry's distrust in official channels to be more dangerous than their ineptitude and corruption. Therefore, he has abandoned intellectual integrity and devoted his platform to maintain faith in these institutions, regardless of the truth. Honestly, I could salvage some amount of respect for him if he would just admit this, but so far, I've been disappointed.

I have been waiting for this Chris! Sam single-handedly improved my life probably more than anyone on the internet. Excited for the full interview. 🙌🏻🙌🏻

"I think, therefore I Am"- Sam..

"contrarian eco chamber" is a great quote. Also: The camera angle always frames the upper arms of these guys really well. Props to whoever set that up.

I love Sam . I agree 100% with him

Sam talking about how people who disagree with his perspective are in their own bubble is just too precious.

I have listened and subscribed to Sam for at least 7 years and for a long time he was my go to intellectual for his articulate clarity on this crazy world. But something has shifted in the last couple of years, his podcasts aren't as stimulating as they used to be and I don't consume them as eagerly as I used to. His guests are often safe allies who don't challenge Sam in the ways that some of his past guests did, in particular Jordan Peterson. I really hope we get to see Sam duke it out in conversations with his intellectual rivals like he used to do more regularly. I wonder if we will see him on Joe Rogan again, or publicly converse with Bret Weinstein again. I'm looking forward to the full chat he had with you Chris! You're doing great work.

Better we need a movie. I would cast Jared Harris as Sam Harris and Robert Downey Junior as Peterson. Call it: "Two men, fighting for the one truth"

What I actually want to hear is a debate between Harris and Joe Dispenza!!! Because Dispenza’s work essentially introduces and proves spiritual science that the main stream science essentially wants to ignore.

Sam looks like hes aged 10 years from about 2 years ago.

Can't wait for the full next Mon.😍😍😍

Where’s the full podcast?

A very interesting contrast of personalities. Sam compliments Jordan, very classy. Jordan does help people, cannot deny this. 😊

The deterministic universe will ensure I listen to this upcoming podcast, through no free will of my own.

Sam thinks that because something is predictable or explainable that it is not meaningful. Jordan understands that that perspective is one of arrogance.

Sam sees the world as a bunch of atoms reacting to eachother. No free will, in his mind we’re all just automatons. Being that you can’t KNOW whether there’s free will or not, I have FAITH in free will.

I align more with Jordan Peterson but really respect Sam Harris and love to hear him speak and then both speak together. I love being on that journey. I like how he differentiated himself from Richard Dawkins. That really spoke to me. I respect Richard Dawkins but it's hard to align with. I look forward to more from both of them together and separately.

Cannot wait to hear the full conversation. Sam has a brilliant mind and is thought-provoking to listen to (which I haven't in a while), and since the last time I listened to him I've heard a lot of people respectfully speak out against him; namely Joe Rogan, Bret Weinstein, Jordan Peterson and Trent Horn. Will be a good one.

Sam is making the argument that religion, something that holds a deep Moral/philisophical weight to a large swathe of people can and should be arbitrarily engineered based on how he feels. And going by who he has been the past few years, I wonder if people are allowed to come to a conclusion he does not like.

Both Jordan and Sam are admirable, in their own way! Glad we have two great minds there! I like listening to both.

Sam made me question religion. Peterson showed me how to try and understand religion. Chris shows everyone he's creating a religion of fucking amazing podcasts. Long way from Osbourne road mate. Well done 👍

Can’t wait to hear more from my favorite determinist about how we should do things differently!

He should debate the very man that invented MRNA treatments.

What is the oryginal podcast? The link in description doesnt work for me

These different approaches are core to a holistic understanding of a universal human experience.

To me Sam Harris represents knowledge and reason. Jordan Peterson represents heart and soul. We need both, but at this particular time we need Jordan Peterson just a little more.