Joe Rogan called weight cutting “Sanctioned Cheating"... 

Chael picks his camera angle to perfectly show off one of the biggest arms in Oregon.

Chael ‘I offer to you’ sonnen

Damn Joe, exposing the business yet again

I think Chael miss-interpreted what Joe was saying. He wasn't saying that missing weight is sanctioned cheating. He was saying weight cutting in general is sanctioned cheating; in that I can weigh in at 170, but be 200lb on the day of the fight.

Thought the mike shadow was a wet spot. Haha

Till got a title fight out of missing weight so he will make that 30% back that he lost.

If a fighter misses weight, he should have to fight in the higher weight class for his next fight or two.

or just do hydration tests like OneFC does... lol

This channel is no question, the best mma channel.

We don't deserve Uncle Chael.

Weight cutting in North America will only change when someone dies. One FC has the best method of this.

The weight cutting is so extreme in the UFC that the weight divisions don't mean as much. Conor probably walks around at 175+, yet captured his first title at 145. Till walks around at 210+ and is fighting for the title at 170. Even if Till makes weight, isn't that still ridiculous? Dude is big as Randy Coture when he was the fucking heavyweight champ and he's fighting at welterweight. That devalues the entire structure of champions, imo.

Look, I like Darren Till a lot. But, what I thought was telling, when he missed weight against Wonderboy Thompson, Thompson's camp said just make 185 (on fight night). And Till's camp responded that he couldn't do that and they had to negotiate up to 188. So, basically, Thompson said just stay under another weight class limit. 185 is a middle weight!! At that point you are not a welter weight.

As a casual fan turned hardcore fan, I can say there is definitely a disconnect. Before I really got into the sport and started following fighters, watching interviews, and before I started training in and learning the sport I thought the weight classes were either their weight or at most 10 pounds off their weight. I never understood that most light weights were damn near middle weights at their natural weight. It's hard to imagine, even wrestling in high school I was only 5 or 6 at most from my weight class, most of the time a quick run with a trash bag would work, and on a good week stripping down naked was all I needed. It's really hard to imagine a person dropping 30 pounds in a month.

I read books with Chael's voice in my head; it really livens up studying.

Thanks Chael, I enjoy your straight up way of talking about this stuff.

I think they should either prevent weight-cutting altogether or have people weigh-in on the day of the fight so they can't fully re-hydrate if they cut too much weight.

It’s funny his shirt looks like he spilled something on it 😂but it’s just the shadow of the microphone 🎤

Take 50% if they missed weight

Love the Amateur wrestling lectures UncleChael.

I agree with Joe, even to the point as to how ONE FC does weigh ins. Your weight class is your walk around weight. Meaning Till would be a light heavyweight.

weight cutting ruins the sport like Ortega who looked like a Welterweight fighting Frankie who is a natural 145 its stupid and makes weightclasses useless

Great job looking for solutions and admitting your current limitations on a solution. Much respect.

Have weight classes every 10lbs, hydration tests throughout the year, you get assigned to the weight class you’re supposed to be in.

Chael “So Joe Rogan Came Out” Sonnen

Chael is talking to a cardboard cut-out of himself

Why did this conversation lose steam after 2018? This is all still accurate and important to address

This man always looking supremely relaxed One of these days ima pull up one of these vids of him fully reclined off-camera

Weight classes do NOT exist in the UFC. Sanctions are NOT meaningful. The following rule needs to be instituted immediately. Fighters that make weight should have full authority to reject any opponent that doesn't make weight and those who miss weight are suspended for one year. Also, if you miss weight you cannot win a fight as you are cheating. Not only does the current weight class system NOT allow even matched opponents to fight, but it is barbaric and possibly deadly. Cutting weight can hurt athletes so much that they need medication and hospitalization to recover. Also, fighters who can cut a lot of weight easily for whatever reason, have a tremendous advantage. Please read on. UFC weight classes are truly non-existent. Fighters should have to make weight upon entering the octagon. Today, a fighter can "make weight" but enter the octagon 20 or 30 pounds heavier at fight time? Ridiculous and unfair. Having hydration testing AND weigh-ins at fight time is the best way to protect fighter's health and make the sport truly respectable and with real competition amongst fighters of the same weight. Weight classes do NOT exist. I wish you would use your influence to spearhead a movement to bring true weight classes to the UFC.

weight cut problem solved: 18 hours weigh ins. if they are over weight give them unlimited time until they step in the octagon to make weight but they most make weight or not fight no over weights excepted

I've been saying for years that the fighters should weigh in day of the fight, if not an hour before the fight. These fighters are ruining their health and not fighting in the weight classes they should be.

One concern too, for fighter health is the greater susceptibility to head trauma and concussion that cutting creates. The ONE FC way is the best solution along with possibly adding weight classes for the bigger gaps of more than ten pounds. On point Chael.

Powerlifter are weighed after their last lift when relevant. Fighters should be weighed fight night.

If you come into the Octagon weighing heavier than you did on the scale it is cheating. I understand the strategy of wanting to fight an opponent who weighs less but if that results in you weighing 15, 20, 25lbs heavier than your opponent come the actual time to Fight that's not fair. The UFC and/or the Commission should of fixed this issue years ago just based on the fact it isn't good for the health of the Fighters.

Than you chael, your perspective is always very entertaining. I don't always agree with what you have to say. Defiantly though, we need you!

I think the one hour weigh in is the best way to do it. Totally agree with you on that. It would literally fix EVERYTING that is going wrong with that aspect of the sport.

PRIDE i miss you so much. Bring back the steroid, catch weight fight and soccer kicks please.

That's not sweat on his shirt.

When Chael hadn’t uploaded in 5 days so you go to old podcasts ❤️‍🔥

I love Chael's POV. He's been there, done that and he has a non-meathead perspective. It's refreshing.

The use of the term crusader with Cruz was an amazing world play. Chael is pretty good with words have it to give it to him.

Does the 20% forfeit go the other fighter?

because its part of the show chael and the show must go on!

Joe Rogan has spoke out multiple times, UFC should adopt the one fc rules and have hydration tests after weight cutting to force everyone to fight at their natural weight classes

The fact that Till gets rewarded with a title-shot after missing weight, is made worse by the fact that he was gifted the hometown decision over Wonderboy in a fight he probably lost 4 rounds to 1.

Till walks around over 220 lbs , he is cheating ,he is the biggest welterweight in history and cuts over 25% of his body weight tk be bigger than everyone ! That's cheating , weight classes mean same size vs same size and the skills separate the fighters , but till wins based off of size ! He should be 185 or 205 lb fighter !

Chael is the king of red tape breakdowns.

They do it to protect the card. They don’t want to have to cancel fights right before the ppv and possibly have to do partial refunds or deal with pissed fans.

Conor cuts 30 lb before every fight because he's scared to pick on someone his own size

Chael, if you're looking for an answer, ONE FC figured some of it out. Same day weigh-ins with hydration tests. Joe did mention some of it. 1. Multi-stage weigh-ins, including same day weigh-ins, combined with hydration tests. 2. The addition of a couple of new weight classes. 3. If you miss weight or hydration, you don't fight and you don't get paid. Period. That's pretty much it.

The reasons why commissions want to know the exact weight is because the fines they Levy is based off how much you missed the weight by

Only way significant changes will be made to the punishment handed out to fighters for missing weight is if we get a situation where a fighter gets hurt by someone who missed the weight and ends up suing the fighter, commission, organisation and promoter. A fighter missing weight should not just get a fine they should be disqualified and removed from the fight as they are trying to cheat.

Great vid cheal

Moicano looked huge next to Cub.. definite advantage

3:09 "I haven't checked that I don't want to hear about it if I'm wrong" Yep that statement pretty much sums up Chaels entire career as a Podcaster.

Surprised but glad that Chael agrees. Mucho love Chael. Best of luck on the fight with Fedor :)

Its so true. No one actually fights at a legal weight

I agree with that harsh wrestling style punishment. And I'd argue that there HAS to be a One FC style hydration weigh in, if only to balance the scales and stop people from either near dying due to weight cuts or coming in much heavier!

God damn I would be forever thankful if I got to contribute and sit next to Chael during one of his podcasts

My question is, Is it necessary to use the old style scales that has the little slide weight on it? Are they more accurate or is it just traditional?

I fucking love the 1 hour weigh-in idea.

A buddy of mine used to be a wrestler, and I swear I used to think the exact same thing. The fact that you have these guys who weigh 15 pounds over the weight limit, and he'll just cease drinking anything for a day and a half and wear plastic bags and go jogging in the middle of summer just to try and cut weight, and then the second weigh-in is over they start guzzling water like it's going to be gone tomorrow. It is cheating, in my opinion it's incredibly dishonest, and in my opinion that shows you don't have that much confidence in your own abilities. I never liked it.

I've been saying this shit since the late 90s about boxing.. Dom wasn't the first and neither was I.. you should fight at your natural weight.. multiple weigh ins should be required 3months out leading up to a fight.. if you weigh 200 and want to fight at 170, you must maintain 170 for 3 months.. make them keep it real..

Chael constantly looking for inspiration in the upper left corner of the room 🤣

My solution to weight cutting problem in MMA. Right now there's 8 divisions for men in the UFC. 125,135,145,155,170,185,205,265. What I propose is 10 divisions. 135,145,155,165,175,185,200,220,240,unlimited. Weigh ins 10 days before the fight, 5 days before the fight, 1 day before the fight and 1 hour before your fight. Do the hydration test as ONE FC is doing. You walk 155>optimal shape you probably weigh about 150>fight at 145. When the last weigh in is done (1 hour before the fight) you shouldn't be allowed to be heavier than 150.0 pounds. If you are even 1 pound heavier the half of the difference of the divisions (145-155 is 150) you are fined 10% for every pound meaning if you come in at 152 for 145 pound fight you are fined 20% of your purse. Be heavier than 150 two times in a row the promotion should force you to move up a weight class.

Cutting weight the week before a fight then putting it back on to be heavier than your opponent is cheating. Fight at the weight you walk around at. Valentina Shevchenko had to put on weight to fight at 135. True warrior.

Implement hydration tests like One FC, and bump every fighter up a weight class.

Bring back Chael talking beside a fireplace.

I can't be sure about every day but I know for a FACT that Mr. Chael Sonnen every month produces AT LEAST 1 video about weight cutting.

The onefc dehidration system seems awesome! They mesure weight and hydration at the same time,thus you are not able to cut weight by losing only fluids

There is a disconnect

I love how Chael sonnen talks

Joe was talking about cutting weight not missing weight. I think we need a 1 hour weigh in

Love the Chael " I offer to u " Sonnen comment! Pissed myself laughing cause it's so true! Love your work Chael, u should tak over from Dana, I think u would do a great job!

1 hour before fight weigh in plus body water percentage should do it right? Fighters can't fight dehydrated if there is a minimum percentage

They need to keep track of weight during fight week and have rules implemented to decide whether someone is fit to compete in that weight class or not. That way fighters show up at their best rather than being drained still from what you just put your body through.

i always agree with your logic, everytime

1FC came up with a solution (hydration test throughout the camp)which Ben Askrin talked about on Joe Rogan’s podcast “Look into it “

Idk so much about NCAA but when I wrestled in college we were required to maintain ourselves at 10 pounds overweight class

1FC model of doing hydration testing along with stiffer penalties for missing weight. more weight classes like a 165 and change 170 to 175.

fully open to the one hour weigh-in, there needs to be REAL action taken and I say go to the extreme if a fighter misses weigh it goes down as a lose, they broke a rule, what happens when you break a rule you get DQed. One thing is clear IMO take just taking money is not enough.

I totally thought the shadow of the microphone was a stain on Chael's t-shirt

Yes 1 hour weigh in is the solution

The commission have got to get the exact weight of the fighter as there is a lower weight limit to a fight, just as there is an upper limit. We say a fight is taking place at 205lb, but it isn't, it's taking place between 185-205 (in the UFC). If the fighter weighs in at 184lb, just as they missed weight for being over, in this case, they've missed weight for being under, and missed their contractual obligation to fight at a pre-specified weight.

One fc addressed this with walking around weight has to be close to fighting weight due to a fighter death because he was cutting weight for a fight.

Real fans are not down with missing weight and then fighting and winning.

Very simple go to fighting on the same day weigh ins

We should do height classes n let guys come in at whatever weight they need to

If so how is there going to be a champion/belt

Rogan didn't just talk about missing weight. He also discussed fighters who cut a lot and make weight then come fight night are 25lbs over.

Back in my high school wrestling days I always made weight, even when I had to drop the drawers

I think it should be like wrestling with the one hour weigh ins before fights.

You're the man chael

The spider in the corner of the room must be homding the cue cards

I was staring a chaels shirt and the shadow makes it look like his shirt is wet :o

I'm not sure if you heard the podcast, but Rogan took things a bit further. He didn't say missing weight was sanctioned cheating, he said cutting weight at all is sanction cheating. What he's referring are the fighters that fight significantly below their normal walking weight and balloon up after either making or missing weight. He references Darren Till who fights at 170 but walks into the cage well over 200 lbs. He also references the health disadvantages for such actions as well as Japanese weight cutting rules that have seemingly eliminated the issue.

something i have always wondered: how mutch are you alowed to be under the max weight?

Rogan & Cruz weren't saying that missing weight without consequences is sanctioned cheating(there are consequences), they were talking about being able to add back weight after weigh-ins. For example you can weigh 175 during the weigh-ins, but come fight time you can weigh 185. The point is that weigh-ins should be held before(hours) the fight.

I wrestled through the 90s in school and out. I was 6'5'' when I was 16 so I was heavyweight the whole time but I'd watch my friends killing themselves, as young as 14-years-old, to make weight for matches. More and more organizations are adopting a long-term weight measurement (I don't know the exact metrics), and I can't imagine there's a lot of push-back.

The relevant question for me is WHY does the UFC ALLOW this "sanctioned cheating" to continue almost unabated??? Is it really ALL about their bottom line, i.e., canceling the fight would cost them in future rev? Also, Chael, can you do a break down of HOW missing weight benefits the cheater? I know there are theories and suppositions by the ton but actual BENEFIT to the fighter facts? Please enlighten us.