I love that man so much. He’s not old enough to be my dad but I watch his videos to fill the dad void and it helps so much. He doesn’t only help men. Women need this too.
He reminds me so much of my Dad. The way he looks, the intelligence and deep spiritual insight on things such as scripture; along with the kind of pain he has suffered and the weight of that. I think that’s one of the reasons he connects to me so much.
@@DeJake depends on what your major is there's b.a. psych and b.s.c psych...as much as people want to suggest that stuff is science I don't believe it's nearly the same as classical science.
Im 30 years old and my dad just suddenly passed away at 68 3 days ago and I’ve watched this video probably 30 times. It makes me feel so much better. Gives me strength and understanding when i need it. Thanks JP
No offense but Joe is a professional interviewer. It’s his job to be quiet and ask questions that will drive the conversation forward.. when you have someone like Jordan Peterson speaking, there’s not much you need to do to get the maximum amount of information out of his mouth.
Those that hear Peterson directly probably already believe in this woo. If it's the first time you're hearing this woo you're going to have a harder time understanding it.
graphicism Everything he says is the truth. The people saying they won't fall for his beliefs probably call transsexuals which ever gender they think they are. "Sure I'll call billy Debra from now on, but I won't bend reality to believe Jordan Peterson". The truth is hard to swallow but that doesn't make it not true. It's a lot easier to say orange man bad than actually look into things and admit you might be wrong about things.
@@BiggestRedditor Well you're inadvertently admitting a confirmation bias, which is fine, but you only serve to prove my point regarding those that "follow" Peterson. You shouldn't say "Everything he says is the truth" because again, his words speak to you. Peterson confirms your bias. Further he talks about the medias-narrative, which as far as I am concerned is all fake news for the gullible public. He picks that up and runs with it, as if there is a kid around every corner wanting to be considered a Panda bear. To reiterate, if you didn't watch TV and keep up with the so called NEWS, you wouldn't know what what he was talking about most of the time. I'm being silly now, but imagine if someone spoke elegantly and poignantly about the Simpsons, how would you feel? And that is perhaps somewhere I reside in regards to Peterson.
I think he would say that he represents old tradition and information that those not suits into a new reality. Not that it is wrong but it is incomplete and insuficient, and the way to deal with that is by having Pinocchio, the new and the reformist, to rescue it and give it a new shape and form.
This animosity towards JP is really weird. But what else to expect in a world where taking responsibility for oneself and one's actions is akin to suicide.
@@MastaSmack well shit man, existence isn't exactly the easiest thing out there, but what other alternative do you have? Might make the most out of it, even if your "most" isn't what society considers "the most". Fuck it, your life, your terms, as long as you're happy, awesome.
People in the comments seem confused, i totally understand what he meant. He basically saying "you" have potential but you wont unlock that potential by do the same thing. Open up and challenge yourself it make you better
graphicism idiot is a big word to use for someone when you don't even know what he's talking about. How can an idiot help out so many people? I guess you're the smart guy here 😂 dumbass.
@@superllama5509 no he is just explaining the phycological and philosophical aspects of lessons you think are simplistic but in reality are profound and complex. It is important that he does so because many but primarily post modernist of been able castigate old ideas as simplistic and lacking philosophical weight, The left has managed to monopolise modern philosophy. These old ideas he talks about where once complex and deep but they are old and being widely accepted where simplified and concentrated to easily digestible forms because the discussion was over. Now the discussion is back and there are new seemingly complex and interesting ideas compared to the old ones that have been condensed for convenience and those old ideas need to be unpacked and more thoroughly understood.
You are not wasting your time. The unpleasent experience of wasting your time is exactly what will propel you towards achieving your potential. Just continue facing these terrifying feelings and it will sort itself out.
"If you can face the malevolence and you can face the suffering then that opens the door to your maximal potential, and then the optimistic part of that is, and this is why it's so useful to peer into the darkness let's say, the optimistic part of that is that although the suffering is great and the malevolence is deep, your capacity to transcend it is stronger."
Wow just WOW how Jordan Peterson can explain so articulately yet staying on subject by breakdown a point of view. I so do enjoy his lectures on RU-vid.
Imagine having this dude as a father figure since birth, or at least as long as you can remember. We all could benefit from that kind of relationship/mentorship
I believe on my heart that my purpose in life after my family is to be the head of the Speer that puts an end to fatherless children. It has to start somewhere and I’ve already started.
@@whitepeoplergullible9241 also, these aren't supposed to be individual abstractions, rather "Jungian" archetypes that exist in much the same form in all of us. Therefore it's more of a process of recognizing these abstract and cultural references to guide your abstract thinking towards the answers our culture has found for these issues, rather than every individual having their own completely original abstraction. Which wouldn't be very useful, tbh.
Every system of mass dysfunction/immorality that I've dedicated my life to leaving behind completely matches the systems that ruined my father's life. I didn't do this on purpose, I just noticed this recently. As I see it, JBP's view on this metaphor is looking at the nature of inheritance. I inherited the existence of my parents. This is powerful to recognize that we all participate in a bigger picture, and that bigger picture is made up of simultaneously independent events and chain reactions, and they influence each other and clash and combine. So to do with this life something meaningful that helps people and improves life is caring for this life that was given to you by your parents. But JBP goes deeper and looks at the deep observation, self-reflection that is like an intensive meditation, that brings you to see things differently, and confronts you with everything your father could not save himself from.
He reminds me so much of my Dad. The way he looks, the intelligence and deep spiritual insight on things such as scripture; along with the kind of pain he has suffered and the weight of that. I think that’s one of the reasons he connects to me so much.
What he means as far as I can tell, you do something new, let's say something you're afraid of. For example socializing or talking to women. You use exposure therapy to slowly build up your social skills with women and then you incorporate what you learned and turn it into a skill. So now there's more to you since you learned a new skill. The other thing is biologically speaking, if you put yourself in a new situation your genes code for new proteins that unlock your hidden potential. Think of it as, you unlocking new upgrades or hidden software to your body you didn't realize you had. And the ancestral father which is you in a sense, rescuing yourself from the belly of the whale. You are the product of the people that made you, and the people that made you are kind of hidden in you. You have hidden potential in your genes biologically and like your ancestors can access the genes that gave them strength to live long and thrive. But all that hidden potential isn't going to develop unless you stress yourself. There's something very spiritual yet scientific about all this.
+ShadowniteALX 2 If you haven't already, I highly encourage you to search a similar subject of "the bicameral mind". It touches similarly on the aspect of ancestral Jungian hidden identities / abilities in our psyche, with a focus on the correlation between religious experiences and the surprisingly recent merging of the left and right brain over the last few thousand years. +NexusVoid's channel covers it spectacularly
With all my heart I thank these two men. Jordan Peterson: your the Best thing to come out of Canada Ever, you are even better than hockey and Man I love hockey.
@@danl7442 what part of: "through struggle and striving to make an impact in the world through self mastery you unlock your true genetic potential" don't you understand?
@@TheMindofRa it doesnt make sense because literally anybody can follow that and make themselves relevant to become that importance in their own mind. Thats a very liberal route.
@@GrassTalk4202 did you really come to a JP segment on a podcast let alone to a comment section to be non-political? Congratulations. You just won the naive darwin award.
Talk about a relatable, my dad had a stroke and might be coma and this is exactly what it feels like, trying to rescue him from the belly of the whale.
so interesting to think that if you're someone who is gradually overturning their suffering through growth, that pain/pressure that you're relinquishing or transforming is the weight of your "cross" that you're bearing
I'm trying to rescue my father from the belly of the whale and I gotta tell you, it's been more eye opening than any private or elite education you can pay your money for.
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="293">4:53</a> "so this idea of saving someone who is very important to you, risking your life to save someone who's important to you maximizes your potential as a human being?" ehHH s'high
Joe you need to rename this clip! I was almost NOT going to watch it because of the title and then was like... It's got Jordan Peterson so ya... I'll give it a watch... and the sheer brilliance of this man to unlock the secrets of our lives is unprecedented! His words unlock the crypt with the treasure! Like you Joe... I sit in silence when Jordan talks because he is absolutely mind blowing! "Challenging Yourself to Find Your Maximum Potential" or "Why Facing Your Fears Frees You" or "Doing the Scary Thing is Scary but Confronting Your Fears Opens Your Vault" or "You Need Pain to Grow" I'm gonna watch it again right now!
Thanks for putting this clip up on RU-vid - I was searching for it as I wanted to listen to this particular idea again - but forgot which talk with Joe Rogan it was on. I have never read so many negative comment about Dr Peterson on a RU-vid clip before - he certainly hit a nerve. I guess what we cannot understand we always think is stupid - ( CG Jung said that that. )
I was playing Gears of War 5 the other day and theres a part where you are literally rescuing your father from the belly of the beast, and as i played i could picture JP sitting there nodding his head saying "Yes, thats exactly right!" xD
@@BD-yl5mh I think he would find issue with spending all day every day gaming to escape from real life responsibilities more than a playing for a couple of hours here and there to relax.
@@St3v3z you’re probably right, I just want to reiterate I didn’t really mean it as that much of a dig though man. I just imagined Dr P sitting next to you playing video games and thought “here’s what he might say” It was like a little comedy vignette in my head, don’t stress
I'm very grateful for his message. Not only does he have a very positive message to women, but also his message to men benefits women. It's painful to see putting men down to uplift women. On one hand, that's harmful and injust to men. On the other hand, that also hurts women. Women suffer terribly in a society full of weak and discouraged men.
It's like when Rodimus Prime short-circuited himself so his life force could enter the Matrix of Leadership and speak to Optimus and all the Primes that came before him.
For real bro. When the analogy clicked in my head it gave me that exact same feeling you get when you make an astonishing realisation on LSD or shrooms. I think its because it resonates so much with our souls and with knowledge that is dormant in our minds passed onto us by our forefathers as a blueprint to thrive in this world. We just unlocked a little of that sacred knowledge and the weird psychedelic feeling we get from that is confirmation.
If u want to take the red pill of all red pills watch Peterson’s podcast with the author of the immortality key. Psychedelics, Christ, underworld, death, transformation, is all embedded in a underlying reality on which consciousness operates, then tie in Peterson’s hypothesis on sexual selection in humans for the manifestation of logos, the hair on arms start to stand. It’s like what the fuck is going on here?
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="210">3:30</a> i am at this point and i was feeling really very sad knowing the darkest beasts hidden in the society and the sadness isn't going anywhere but then i saw JP speaking and explaining it , now i have a foggy image of what i need to do but still i want that image to be more clear.
An outlier for this theory would be people with stress related mental disorders that are dependent on public funded healthcare. Plenty of opportunity to encounter human malevolence whether it be from other patients or staff. I don't see them being supercharged potential machines. Sometimes a wall isn't a challenge. It's just a wall.
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="240">4:00</a> I was never able to comprehend how I feel I can take on the strength of my ancestors when I push myself hard and here comes Peterson explaining it out so clearly and eloquently. Love this man! Thank you for these interviews Rogan!
"Participation in acts whose sole purpose is expansion of innocent pain and suffering destroys character; forthright encounter with tragedy, by contrast, may increase it." -Maps of Meaning
I was doing things while watching this so it didn’t have my full attention and I honestly haven’t fully gotten it. Essentially it sounds like a highly metaphorical way of saying you need to challenge yourself to grow. But taking it a little more literally, is is actually about defeating whatever defeated your father? That is to say that I recognise in my parents relationship, that I think my dad settled and got stuck with an unreasonable woman. I think he appreciated being needed but I think he gave up too much for that. That is not to outright admonish my mother, but I do wonder if my father secretly wishes he had an out. That being said, I fell into a relationship that was frighteningly reminiscent of theirs in my early 20s. Was in it for over 3 years, and then finally found the strength to break out of it (having known since about the 6 month mark I wasn’t happy). I honestly think I wasn’t far from being broken and just going along with marriage and kids and whatever. But I couldn’t break out without seeing my dad in a new light. I now wouldn’t consider myself a MGTOW or anything, but I think I’ve determined that I need to work myself out first, and that I will never give up as much of myself as I was willing to originally, and in a way that will be a lesson learn, almost in my fathers stead. Is this in anyway related to what JP is saying here? The fact is, in many ways I lag desperately behind my father, so I still have many obstacles laid out in front of me to overcome and manifest a better self but in some ways this felt like a critical lesson for me to learn that my father didn’t
Not the only Disney film to explore that..... In the finale of The Little Mermaid, Ariel puts her life at risk and selflessly saves her father from becoming the Sea-witch's slave, after having initially defied him, making the selfish choice and unintentionally putting him in the dangerous situation to begin with. "I love you daddy!" Her last line in the film! Always brings a year to my eye.
How to know when will the things go in wrong path? How much stress is too much? I agree that we should accept as many challenges as we can, but how to know how much is too much? Becuase too much stress causes illnesses, and you end up in a worst place then where you began
