Weight cutting is the biggest problem in the sport right now. it decreases the value of the product because they're so dehydrated and it increases risk of brain trauma. they really need to work on getting rid of it.
the solution is not cutting huge amounts of weight so you're the biggest guy in the fight. You get weighed when the fight is arranged and have to be within 10% of the target weight, then regular weigh-ins before the fight to ensure you remain with a certain range. Guys walking around at close to 200lbs then fighting in a 160lb class is a joke. Fighting is not a test of who can cut the most weight the fastest to get an edge while both fighters put their health at risk. It's pathetic and dangerous.
According to your logic 95% of top level MMA fighters are pathetic because most of them cut a shitload of weight. Many welterweights ( 170 lbs ) walk around over 200 lbs. Kevin Lee said he is normally 185 and fights at 155.
I agree the extremes they go through are crazy but obviously it works if most fighters do it. At the elite level they need every little edge they can get. Obviously being as large as you can in a given weight division is a huge advantage at that level. If it was counter productive then the majority would not be doing it. Who looks slow ?
dab88 I think the best solution is, instead of weigh ins they should have a limit to how low your hydration level is. That will keep it safe and eliminate guys from lowering to many weight classes. Bernard Hopkins always said he had an advantage because, most guys in his weight class were walking around 20-30 pounds heavier where he was almost the same. So these guys cutting so much would be half exhausted getting into the ring. Not to mention the mental exhaustion which might be worse then physical.
You think you can lose 20 pounds of fat in a 2 weeks? No its water you dipshit. If you never wrestled shut the fuck up because you have never cut weight and have no idea what you are talking about. And you would get your ass kicked by any wrestler.
Bodybuilding and fitness are two different things buddy. The reason you can't get to 4% is because you have a big gut and think that lifting weights and taking supplements will shrink you down to 4%. Well I've been at 4.5% so I guess I am a better body builder than you are.
I would be more inclined to go with these 9 weight classes: 130 lbs - Flyweight 140 lbs - Bantamweight 150 lbs - Featherweight 160 lbs - Lightweight 170 lbs - Welterweight 185 lbs - Middleweight 200 lbs - Light Heavyweight 215 lbs - Cruiserweight 230+lbs - Heavyweight All champs would remain the same, with the exception of making Cormier CW champ instead of LHW. The LHW belt would then be open, perhaps fought for by the 2 highest ranked fighters to move to that weight class.
I can think of 4 natural 165 pounders off the top of my head: Nate Diaz, Cowboy, RDA, and Condit, in addition to Kevin. That's a solid division right there.
The solution should be to tell these guys to stop cutting weight. Make it illegal. ONEFC tells their fighters to to cut very little weight. They also do hydration tests. Therefore, a fighter will only be allowed to weigh-in if he is hydrated. This will be great if the UFC could do it.
Siddharth Sridharan Yeah and everyone basically moved up a weight class or two but you can't expect one guy to be the only one to do that cause he'll be at a massive disadvantage.
@Mohammed Ali yeah Khabib walks around 210 off season, imagine cutting 50 pounds just for fighting smaller guys, Khabib is a world class fighter don't get me wrong, but he would lose against Usman or Gsp
@@justanaveragebloke4443 khabib walks around 180 Ibs. His max walking weight a few years ago was 190 Ibs and he's rarely bigger than his opponents in LW. Where the fuck did you get 210 Ibs from? Usman walks around 200 Ibs and is bigger than everyother WW.
But he’s also 5’9 and if he’s working out he’s normally 175 ish. Which is normal. He fights at like 170 ish cause the max you can gain in one day between the weigh in is like 20 pounds.
Kevin sounds really well spoken here, I guess I never noticed in the interviews previously, kinda seemed like he was portraying a character in the pre/post fight interviews that I've seen IMO
Warunner Gaming So everytgi bff over 200 is heavyweight? I'm fucking 200 lbs before I cut weight to 185 and I'm 6' and I get rolled up by bigger stronger stronger guys that can actually fight at 170, and I only wrestle/BJJ. There needs to be a 200-225 for light heavyweight
Joe's correct -- the submerge method is the only nearly accurate method. Calipers and standing on a scale just can't possibly determine body composition.
I like Kevin Lee alot more after seeing him talk and act like a normal person, he's gotta drop the instigator routine. And everyone needs to stop trying to reinvent Connors gimmick.
In summary, he gives a detailed account of how he has a detail plan in place to have a perfect weight cut, then goes on to give a detail explanation on he miss his contract weight multiple times. This guys a genius or a politician in the making.
This is exactly why fighters should fight at their natural weight. Of course exercise and workout but it’s ignorant to dehydrate yourself for a battle. Remember when Conor fought at 145? Shredded to the tee but you could physically see he wasn’t in good shape health wise. He looked sickening because like Lee said fighters are losing 20 pounds of weight just from water cut. Completely throwing off your natural cycle. I’m 6’2 and 160. And I’d feel the most comfortable fighting at this size.
There should be only 3 weight divisions , light , middle , and heavy. Have light below 70kg and heavy above 90kg. All fights should be tournament style. Like play offs. And at least once a year. This would give rankings meaning too.
It's a DXA scan. It's actually a bone density scanner that also tells you your body fat %, lean muscle mass in weight, as well as, where you store body fat at. The only thing with them is that you have to fast for 12 hours before and can't have worked out within 24(?) Hours prior to the scan.
It comes down to being not dedicated no reason you’re cutting 40+ pounds in 3 months to fight either walk around 10-15 over 155 or move to welterweight
The risk of brain damage for a dehydrated fighter is massive. They should fight at the weight they walk around at, weight cutting is bullshit. They should be made to weigh in every day for a week before the fight. If they can't maintain the same weight in a healthy way then they shouldn't fight.
I wouldn't mind seeing Kevin Lee fighting in 170, maybe fight RDA. Two guys who were once 155 lb fighters fighting at a new weight class battling in out.
Called a BIA. Body impedance analysis, measures muscle, bone, water, visceral and subcutaneous fat! Phase angle also, which is the cells ability to conduct electricity, or something like that. Studies have proven that all living things that are getting closer to death, have a lower phase angle.
Anyone complaining about weight cutting is a coward. These people sacrifice their life no matter what. If they want to cut weight to fight someone its their glory. And pushing weigh in closer to the fight is even stupider, fighters will still cut weight but have less time to recover.
If you weigh more than the weight class above you on fight night then move up, you shouldn't be allowed to be more than 10lbs heavier on fight night but some of these dudes... There are 145lbers that weigh 175 on fight night lol
And this is why people like Frankie Edgar has been so durable, he walks around no more than 10lbs of whatever weight class he is in at the time. Say what you want about their record but thats why the diaz brothers hardly get finished they stay in shape and around their weight class and not having to cut 30-40 lbs to make weight.
The UFC and Dana would probably prefer fighters to cut weight because they will look more lean, aesthetic and "athletically credible looking" which would attract a generic fan. Plus the weight cut probably makes them more aggressive, primal and susceptible to getting ko'd which is what the UFC would want.
Weight cuts are dangerous, you want fighters to be healthy. Honestly, in terms of athleticism look, i can't think of any fighters that have been #1 with that from jon jones, anderson silva, ronda rousey , etc. none are carrying 6 packs
They need to increase the amount of weight ranges. Then for weigh ins you need to make weight multiple times leading up to the fight. The UFC controls all aspects of everything anyways, then know the general walking weights of all these guys on any given day. Test them 1 month out, two weeks out, 1 week out. Then weigh in the day of to get a sanity check, although the body could differ 4-8 pds from food and water they need to be within a percentage. This way the only weight cutting someone can do is 5-10 pds. Not 20-30+ pds. Make the weigh ins so rigorous that it wont benefit a fighter to drop massive weight because the multiple dehydrations will set them back in training and the testing will force them into a comfortable weight. Anyone whos a fighter got ideas what would work to stop this?
@@thebeyonder8814 probably the bones get thicker aswell with age and with each training camp you're muscles and body grows bigger and you start naturally getting bigger.
It’s crazy hearing guys who weigh 190+ say they have to cut and compete at 155 because the guys at 170 are too big, so basically the entire sport is guys fighting in weight classes at a weight they can only pull off for 2 minutes at the brink of death, it’s sad and I honestly don’t understand it, is it fear, are these “fighters “ actually afraid to fight at their actual weight? It seems chickenshit to me honestly
You shouldn’t be focused on your weight. You should be focused on technique, speed, agility, coordination, stamina, and strength. Cutting weight is called cutting corners to make it easier for someone instead of true training to be the best to your potential. Cut like 10 pounds at the most and no more. There’s no need to make wrestling or ufc so much harder than it needs to be.
I'm only 5'7" but I weigh 190 on average (summer 185 winter 195) If I were a fighter, I'd probably be a feather or bantamweight. The last time I weighed 135 lbs was my freshman year in high school. I don't know how these guys do it.
then you will see way more fights cancelled last minute, even fighters dehydrated rehydrating right before the fights or during/in between rounds, way more dangerous and impractical. There's a reason that doesn't happen atm
Dexascans are the best way they calculate density of the different parts of the body so it’s the most accurate and 4% is like you are about to die lean, you need around 5 to even survive for longer than a week
Everyone says if they made weigh-ins the day of fight that the athletes would get injured but there's no way athletes could compete dehydrated by 20lbs. No chance they could have the energy to fight, they would have stay at their natural weight unless they just want to lose. Am I wrong in saying this? Looking at BJJ competitions where weigh-in is the same day, there is just no benefit to cutting weight because you can't replenish in time for the event and you perform worse.
Every time someone talks about body fat percentage, Rogan gets inexplicably jealous and starts questioning the accuracy of the figure. Rogan has serious body dysmorphia issues lol
Basically this dude is scared to move up to 170 where he actually belongs cause dude is mad scared he won't have a size advantage over the 155 division lmao
3LlTE no shit, if you were a fighter you’re gonna want every advantage possible. Why move up a weight class where everyone is bigger and heavier, dudes that can both deal and take more punishment
All this cutting is ridiculous. When you're a full grown man, and you join the UFC or whatever it is there should be experts that tell you this is your healthy weight class, you can move up but not down. All these guys killing themselves to drop weight is just silly.
It’s a whole lot better than cutting the same weight in a day or two and feeling like shit on fight day when your body is still trying to recover from the shock
If you cut down a drastic amount of weight there should be a maximum that you’re allowed to weigh the night of the fight. Takes away the huge weight advantage.
Serena Williams Loves Big White C0ck They would need to level the field and put restriction on weight cuts. If the possibility of advantage is left there, people will try and take it.
In high school I wrestled 106 naturally I walked around 118 but I did wrestle 120 for one tournament and they put on a lot weight after weigh ins they were much bigger and stronger than me and I wrestled my regular weight that’s why you cut down a weight class or two to be bigger and stronger after weigh ins
They used to do this before. That didn't work either. Mancini vs. Dukoo Kim. Kim died. After this the boxing comission decided to elimate 3 rounds and make weigh-in the day before instead of the the day of to give a chance to rehydrate. All that happened was fighters now lose more weight and are equally dehydrated fight night.
This might be a stupid question - but instead of having these complicated systems where you need to be within 10% of your every-day weight or have hydration tests, why not just have a second weigh-in just before the fight starts? When I've competed in weightlifting or judo, I've been weighed maybe 3-4 hours before competing, so dehydrating and starving myself would be pointless because I'd be so depleted that I'd do shit anyway. Wouldn't that work for mma? Just have them weigh-in when they arrive at the venue.
Most fighters prefer the early morning weigh in. Reason being is that they go to sleep the night before....they wake up and then do the weigh in and its done. They then have the entire day to re hydrate. If fighters don't like the early weigh in then they are fighting in the wrong weight division.
Adesanya Gastelum, Costa Romero, Stipe DC 2, Stipe Ngannou, Yoel Whittaker 1 and 2, Silva Bisping, GSP Bisping, overeem ngannou, blaydes overeem... these are just off the top of my head and took 10 seconds to think of
