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John Deere B - Getting the Engine to Run Smoothly 

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A lot of troubleshooting to get our 1949 John Deere B to run smoothly after an engine rebuilt. Carburetor overhaul and tuning, ignition timing adjustment, clutch adjustment and rebalancing, and new spark plugs. But it now starts easily and runs smoothly.

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4 окт 2024

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@patrickcreath217
@patrickcreath217 Год назад
I really needed this highly detailed and well explained tutorial. I just bought a 1951? Model B, three days ago, and paid 2800 for it. It needs the choke on to run, and even then, it sounds kind of rough. This is my first Johnny Popper, and I'm going to get it right. Thanks again good buddy!😅
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster Год назад
If you'd need the choke on to run, your idle circuit in the carb is probably clogged.
@DanielFarmChannel
@DanielFarmChannel Год назад
Well, that's much better. I'm glad you got it figured out. I think some people attribute any vibration to it being a two cylinder. In reality, when properly assembled, they are very smooth. I'm not sure if you have seen it at a show, but sometimes people will have their tractor running while sitting on glass coke bottles. Apparently, dealers used to do it as a marketing tool for people that thought they were rough and vibrated excessively. It's pretty cool to see in person.
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster Год назад
I watched your video on flywheel installation to make sure the flywheel was installed correctly. I've seen videos of the tractors on coke bottles... but never in person. Maybe I'll try recreating it.
@larrydavidson3402
@larrydavidson3402 Год назад
Good trouble shooting, it sure sounds much better. Good job.
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster Год назад
Thanks. Yes, it's nice to have it running smoothly.
@rudycarlson8245
@rudycarlson8245 Год назад
Great to see an update on it! Makes me miss my 1949 B even more!😢
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster Год назад
Yes, it's nice to have it running good
@rudycarlson8245
@rudycarlson8245 Год назад
@@jonelsonster I missed the video when you got it. What is it running when you got it?
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster Год назад
@@rudycarlson8245 here is a link to a playlist with all of the videos about this tractor. ru-vid.com/group/PLFyQBtxp-h2qTRnOH_jbAnGgr5Ne0dj39
@rudycarlson8245
@rudycarlson8245 Год назад
@@jonelsonster thanks will check it out
@jancilliers4525
@jancilliers4525 9 месяцев назад
I am a South African and my late Dad used to have a similar John Deere tractor in the late 60's. Not sure which model, might be a B Model as well as I was about 6 or 7 years old then. Thanks for jogging fond memories and a tear or two!
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing. I think yours in the first comment I've ever had from South Africa... Maybe even Africa all together! Thanks 👍🏻
@keepcalmandfarmon5401
@keepcalmandfarmon5401 Год назад
Great video trouble shooting the mighty John Deere B. Happy you got it all figured out...and happy you shared the journey,
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster Год назад
Thanks!
@hm12460
@hm12460 Год назад
You just gotta love a late model B John Deere.
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster Год назад
No doubt
@79fordblake
@79fordblake Год назад
Glad to see you got it smoothed out! Sounds good!
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster Год назад
Me too!
@CannonMusic05
@CannonMusic05 4 месяца назад
I’m about to buy a 1941B from a guy that he says runs for about five minutes and then stalls out so hopefully I can get that figured out. This video should be pretty helpful. Thank you.
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster 4 месяца назад
Every project has something that needs to be figured out. And they're all a bit different. Hopefully you're able to get your B running well. Best of luck 🤞🏻
@PaulCTownsend
@PaulCTownsend 3 месяца назад
Great video and info thank you.
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster 3 месяца назад
Thanks for watching! Glad you found it helpful
@kennycriswell141
@kennycriswell141 11 месяцев назад
FYI a mag is not like a distributor. You set them and forget them. Distributors you can adjust like that with the tractor running. Also mags have 2 different types of time. Run time which is set with whatever drive cup you have. The other is lag time or start time. Thats the time that trips your impluse. Lag time is also the time you adjust on a mag. Take mag off of tractor loosen the 4 screws on the back and rotate it left. On a wico x mag you want it about halfway between the last 2 marks to the left.
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster 11 месяцев назад
You should check out my Magneto and distributor overhaul videos.
@ronaldwhite9954
@ronaldwhite9954 Год назад
There must be one guy somewhere close to you that rebuilt/did a bunch of work on those old JDs...and didn't align the flywheels.
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster Год назад
No joke! And we are the unlucky ones downstream.
@Showboat_Six
@Showboat_Six 8 месяцев назад
Swap the spark plugs from side to side and see if the problem follows
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster 8 месяцев назад
Good tip!
@livelifetogivelife9462
@livelifetogivelife9462 6 месяцев назад
Great - thank you!
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster 6 месяцев назад
👍🏻
@kennycriswell141
@kennycriswell141 11 месяцев назад
Bout time for a new clutch. Your down on your bolts quite a ways
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster 11 месяцев назад
All in good time.
@kennycriswell141
@kennycriswell141 11 месяцев назад
That tractor would of had a distributor on it not a magneto. Mags should set perfectly level if timed correctly. I can tell by looking at your mag that your lag time is off. I'd also throw that wico c mag away and put a wico x mag on it if your gonna run a mag. Theres no difference in degrees with a wico c or x mag. Its the drive cups that is where you get degree difference. Theres 2 different types of drive cups long lug and short lug. Long lug is a 35° cup for unstyled tractors and the short lug cup is a 25° cup. You can run either cup on a c or x mag. You just gotta have a short lug for your B.
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster 11 месяцев назад
Magnetos were available on all letter tractors through 1952. You should watch my video on magneto and carburetor identification.
@stephenmccool8127
@stephenmccool8127 3 месяца назад
Your dad sure knows those old two cylinders, and it's easy to see he's passed that on to you. Do you have and use service manuals? Just curious. Keep em running!
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster 3 месяца назад
He knows how to tune a carburetor better than anyone I know. I'm perfectly comfortable overhauling a carb, but he is much better getting them dialed in than I am. And yes we have copies of the service manuals. They're really helpful. Even though we know our way around them pretty well, we always find issues that are new to us. And that's when the SMs are super valuable.
@richardschaffling9882
@richardschaffling9882 9 месяцев назад
Sounds good but the nuts on the clutch looked like the castle part was way down from the hole for the cotter pin so it looks like the nuts can back off.
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster 9 месяцев назад
There are multiple holes
@davidkimmel4216
@davidkimmel4216 Год назад
Thanks
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster Год назад
No problem
@Hernerranch
@Hernerranch Год назад
thats what my 70 sounds like
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster Год назад
Gotta love that two cylinder music!
@HarlowBAshur
@HarlowBAshur 5 месяцев назад
I hope your 70 sounds a whole lot better than any B.
@Dragon-hc2hm
@Dragon-hc2hm Год назад
Why didn't you just adjust your impulse timing? Pull the mag back off and look at the underside you can adjust the timing of the impulse. Rachel Gingell has a great video on how to do it.
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster Год назад
That will only adjust the impulse, which is only active during starting. I want the engine timing to be correct wile the engine is running and working... not just at start.
@randyscott8660
@randyscott8660 Год назад
I use to tighten each castle nut one notch at a time that way they are all even..
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster Год назад
I don't know if I would have the patience for that 🤣
@stevenabbott714
@stevenabbott714 10 месяцев назад
Awsome
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster 9 месяцев назад
Thanks!
@paulohamm3335
@paulohamm3335 Год назад
Parabéns Brasil 🇧🇷 você tem um número de alguma loja que eu pudesse comprar peças para meu Jd 820 ou email agradeceria muito ❤
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster Год назад
I use eBay
@livelifetogivelife9462
@livelifetogivelife9462 6 месяцев назад
I have a question… My JD 40T is loud like this B I really want to quiet it down. Mine has a similar exhaust to your B… Is packing the pipe with exhaust silencer a “bad idea”? Thanks in advance
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster 6 месяцев назад
I've never messed with any packing in the muffler. We have a 1950 M with a new stock muffler and it isn't loud at all. And it has essentially the same motor you have. You could consider buying a new muffler if your other plan doesn't pan out.
@bethmotgomery2662
@bethmotgomery2662 Месяц назад
Good job that is has a electric starter but one thing is for sure. PLEASE DO INSTALL A ROPS BAR!!!!!! You'll thank me later.
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster Месяц назад
👍🏼
@jamesblack702
@jamesblack702 11 месяцев назад
I had the same problem with a 40 A.Nothing moree than a waorn throttle shaft bushing anf felt seal.
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster 11 месяцев назад
👍🏻
@rayhewitt4688
@rayhewitt4688 11 месяцев назад
She sounds a lot better
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster 11 месяцев назад
Yes, it runs really well now.
@kennycriswell141
@kennycriswell141 11 месяцев назад
Im not trying to be a prick. Put it back on the marks and adjust your magneto. I work on these tractors and everyday I have to guess and try to figure out what people have done to them when Im trying to get them running again.
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster 11 месяцев назад
It's running strong now. We'll leave it the way it is.
@corsairsmitty9691
@corsairsmitty9691 Месяц назад
What is the best way to get the emulsion tube out of the carb, without damaging it?
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster Месяц назад
The two method I've used in the past with good success are with a slide Hammer or with a bolt and washers. I show the two methods in these two videos linked below. Personally, I like the slide Hammer method better because it's quick and easy. But for stubborn emulsion tubes or if you didn't have a slide Hammer, the bolt method works really well. Good luck! Slide Hammer method: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VQjaml1T7rs.html Bolt method: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZeOXk6fPC30.html
@corsairsmitty9691
@corsairsmitty9691 Месяц назад
@@jonelsonster Thank you. That was helpful. I will be attempting this within the next few day, I need to go to the hardware store for the bolt, washer and tap. Might just pick up the slide hammer instead. Not sure yet.
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster Месяц назад
@@corsairsmitty9691 check the diameter of the emulsion tube. Some are different diameters. Just tap it to whatever size it's closest to.
@corsairsmitty9691
@corsairsmitty9691 Месяц назад
@@jonelsonster got two plug screw that will not come out. Both screws are messed up. I tried some heat tonight, it didn’t help. These are the two screws that you have to go through the flange to get to. They are both for the idle passages. Would you know what size of a drill to use to drill the out ? Also what are the tap sizes to re-tap back to original size?
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster Месяц назад
@@corsairsmitty9691 off hand, I do know know the size of those two brass plugs. If I remember, one is small and one is bigger. The small and big ones are the same size as the small and bigger plugs used elsewhere on the carb... I think. You might have to do some googling. Or you could also measure the other brass plugs that you were able to get out and get the thread and diameter info to help you find the right size replacement plugs.
@tonymiller3788
@tonymiller3788 6 месяцев назад
Ha, ha. Be careful where you grab while rotating that mag. I was waiting for you to get zapped.
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster 6 месяцев назад
Would not be the first time. Ha ha ha 😂
@JohnSmith-fs4dx
@JohnSmith-fs4dx Год назад
What was the secret in the final moments of your video here?
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster Год назад
Once we had the timing right and the carburetor properly cleaned and the float set and also a new set of plugs, it was just fine running the carburetor. We also rotated the magneto a little back (ccw) but the biggest thing was seeing the idle and load needles properly.
@JohnSmith-fs4dx
@JohnSmith-fs4dx Год назад
Thank you@@jonelsonster this is very helpful. Trying to get my H running that smooth. Wish my grandfather was still alive to help. Not too many people know about these tractors anymore.
@jasonn3072
@jasonn3072 6 месяцев назад
You didn't need to do that with the governor gear. Someone put the magneto on the tractor wrong. You should fix it correctly and put the magneto together correctly.
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster 6 месяцев назад
You should watch the video I made right before this one... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-38HyHp8P67U.html
@clarencetrice4442
@clarencetrice4442 10 месяцев назад
most of those old tractors use the WICO X magneto that 1 was replaced w the later style 1 the other 1 😮😮 either it wasn't no good or just 4 parts the tractor wouldn't run smooth U should've cleaned the points 2 most the time the old sparkplugs are no good because of the gas that is made 2 day is no good either it's junk 😮😮 4 the magneto cap and the rotor button 5 U should've started the tractor up in the dark 2 see if the sparkplugs wires are leaking current they should be replaced solid copper sparkplug wires carry current better than the others and the spark should be bright blue and hot and I have seen the magneto w coils when they are bad the will make the tractor back fire the only way 2 fix that is 2 replace the coil w a new 1 I seen this myself 😊😊 OMG 11 29 2O23
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster 10 месяцев назад
I actually rebuild magnetos and distributor as a hobby. I am pretty familiar with them. I have several videos on my channel that you can watch showing troubleshooting, testing, and rebuilding of magnetos. This magneto was bench tested and known to be good and reliable. Plus, were only run ethanol free fuel in our tractors. 🧏🏼
@timeinbu7909
@timeinbu7909 Год назад
Please be sure to grease pully bearing while you're in there, it's VERY IMPORTANT..
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster Год назад
Thanks for the tip!
@roadrash3101
@roadrash3101 5 месяцев назад
Don't change or adjust the timing marks for them. They are there for a reason! The Wico C magneto should be in the level position for the engine to run correctly. This is exactly why this tractor sounds like shit. The Wico magneto has a built in advance for accommodating this.
@jonelsonster
@jonelsonster 5 месяцев назад
Noted.
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