John Deere New Autonomous Battery Electric Tractor 

Could we even be allowed to drive? JD could say driving might be a safety risk.

@@dingbop963 god i hate JD

This is awesome lol

no

A fee for thinking about tire pressure and if you get too close to the tires a satellite shuts it down. The fee doubles if you had a pump in your hand.

If you can find people to run your equipment then go for it

It’s optional. You can work or play.

No worries. We're still a loooooooong way from batteries light enough to power 14hrs of work for a 300 horsepower tractor. That detachable cab module? Picture having to cart 6 battery packs the same way, just to get half a day's work done. That's the only way it could happen without building a tractor three times as big and heavy as it needs to be.

@@driverjamescopeland what are you even talking about. It can run 20 hours out of 24 hour day easy. And do it 7 days a week.

This thing is just ugly

😂

My thoughts exactly.

Don’t know why that would bother it. Just need to charge quit often

@@justinmartin8887 When planting season is on you need to go!!! How many units would be needed in the wings while the others charge??? This world of technology has gone bonkers. Not all situations are 'battery better'!!! Geez!!

@@jeffhack6839 right. Which is why we still use diesels at this point. But keep an open mind, because eventually with better tech, electric will be the power. At that point we need to either get with it or fall behind

@@justinmartin8887 As I am a man of electricity you have no idea of what will not be.

Tbh i love the idea of making tractors electric

They have to become a hell of a lot better before they even get onto farmers radar .

You are absolutely right. These tractors are going to be in the middle of nowhere working and run out of charge. What do you do then. You go get your diesel generator to charge the fucker. I think this concept is fucking stupid.

Ya it’s a long ways away from being a threat…. Trust me as a farmer who runs over 5,000 this is a very long long ways away from even helping us out… I’m more worried about giant corporate farmers messing with us 20,000 or less farmers…. It’s becoming a problem. But guess what no one wants to do this job everyone would rather be at home doing a job in their comfy pjs

@@turtsable I’d rather be driving a tractor but the government won’t let me so pjs it is .

Dunno but you can guarantee that a farmer cannot repair it.

and how much environmental damage producing ,charging and disposing of those batteries , no free rides just exchanging one form of pollution for another ,stupid humans SMH

From a modern battery you can expect 2000 circles from 0-100 and back. It has a 1000kwh battery. If your normal workload is 100kw it should last about 20000 hours. So you most likely wouldn't need to replace it. But if you do I'd guess a price tag upward of 150k

A Lil ole tidy biddy satellite on the other side of mars checks seed depth and like usual the thing will last until you are in a bind to get something done and fort Knox will be glad to give you a loan that wont be paid in full till the next one is shot

@@kevinsedo6869 I heard people are already tearing down rain forest to build pounds to produce batteries. These batteries are also a fire hazard, it takes 4x the amount of water to put out a battery fire compared to a conventional engine

thats not a race car. its not about speed

@@sultanamuptela815 Yeah but I don’t want that my tractor come back after 2 days of plughing a 30 acre field and a long car tail down the road

And how rich China and our politicians are going to get off all this EV crap. Smart move. Let's put our entire existence in the hands of China.

2 minute hahahahahahahaha

How many years before I have to replace said batteries that will undoubtedly be priced at about half the price of a new robotractor…. Look online at all the Priuses for sale because the batteries are expensive….

How many hours does it take to charge them ?

Servus I'll try to answer what I can through mathematics, logic and research. 1. the tractor has 1,000 kWh capacity. This corresponds to 100l diesel. However, an electric motor is at least twice as efficient, which gives it a working capacity of 200l - 300l of diesel. The power is 500kW which means that at full power the tractor theoretically works for 2 hours. 2. it depends on the available charging power, or the charging standard and the cell chemistry. Cars (regardless of capacity) can currently be charged from 10% - 80% in ~20 min. Practically, the problem is the grid connection. To achieve this charging power, it would have to deliver 2.1 MW for charging alone. 3. 3. it will probably not work with solar panels alone. You will also need a storage system, as I assume that you will be in the field during the day and will want to charge at night. With storage you need about 500kWp-750kWp of PV power and a 1,000kWh battery if you charge it once a day. (Personally, I would find a battery swap solution charming, but buying two batteries is probably uneconomical). It has 500kW of power which is 680hp. The balance should be ok. 5. i think it can be moved through the terrain similar to a normal tractor. Why not? 6. an electric motor is superior to a diesel. That's why electric motors are used in all stationary applications. They usually last forever. Depending on the cell chemistry, batteries have a life span of 2000-15,000 cycles (1 cycle is 0%-100%. Charge 2x 50% is also 1 cycle) until they reach a capacity of 80%. Batteries are usually grouped into packs and these packs are then replaced when needed. HOW this is done in practice is decided by the manufacturer. Unfortunately, I have not found any information on this. Keep in mind that this is a study. The prices for the batteries are likely to change in the next few years. Don't expect a lower price than for a diesel. hope i could help a bit. Greetings from Upper Bavaria Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

The cab may have its own ac and heat systems.

That's exactly what I was thinking. And if it does have it's own electrical system, that's just going to be one more thing to maintain and charge.

It would take 2 years . One years worth of work the other would be time spent recharging .

I was thinking the same thing. High speed tillage equipment at low speed.

It probably will stop automatically if any malfunctions

I don’t need a glitch to do that . 😂

people make similar arguments about EV cars, and there are certainly noteworthy examples of serious failures in the news. however the news doesnt mention in these one off stories that 16000 additional drivers died today because of human error.

@@RayoAtra covid ?

Imagine the repair bill on this thing when it goes down

The advantage of electric is there isn't really any parts per se. No filters, no transmission, no exhaust system, one computer. I just passed 100k miles on my EV and it hasn't needed any parts yet, other than tires and wiper blades.

Electric equipment has very few parts that need maintenance in the way combustion engines do. No rattling moving parts, no lubrication required. The old days are done. 90% of the comments in this thread are just outdated butthurt.

@@RayoAtra I'm mostly talking about computer parts that's the only stop that breaks consistently on all my equipment Between the equipment and my wood shop I saw a mill and my block yet it's always something to do with electronics

@@RayoAtra I'm needless to say if you can even find the parts I've waited for months to get parts from my saw mill that are made overseas Maybe just maybe I would be more open If the parts were made here in the States If they were so good the new equipment and so few parts how come all the farmers are snatching up all the tractors Prey emissions, And then you have to pay John Deere for their computer software your software yeah doesn't sound like a win win to me

LMAO, family farms can't find employees so nice try Skippy

@@daveklein2826 most of the time the family themselves are the employees, Skippy

@@gabethomas3190 and they can't keep up.... SKIPPY

You can pay more for an inferior product.

human labor is no longer competitive and it never will be again. Its time for the romance of work to end.

Steam is even better. Also John Deere is anti-consumer locked down apple grade fad trash these days, late to the party too. These have already existed from better manufacturers and in both diesel and electric formats depending on need.

@@kishascape exactly what im saying electric would be a setback at this point

It will.

No, no and no , what is this world coming too ??

U r too correct. Wake UP you friends and neighbors. WAKE UP UR Community. IST ABOUT K O N T R O L. CONTROL BY BEAURERATES, AND CORPORATIONS THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.

you clean it out,mate....lol

same thing you do now, other than one guy can service 100 nozzles a day as he isnt required to do anything else. what a complete strawman comment.

@@MrBusdriver63 How can you when the tractor doesn't have an operator? What do you think the word "autonomous" means?

@@jimdent351 One thing is for sure being, Autonomous I can guarantee you one thing, the nozzle will remain until you clean it !

@@MrBusdriver63 That's right, and that will happen at the end of the day when the tractor returns home. That was what the other poster was pointing out, but then a jackass came along and made a stupid comment.

Ha. Good one

That's one way of putting it...

Even say a 620hp quadtrac have way to much pulling power for most standard OLD implements say plows that was sturdy enough to stall the engine if you hit a big rock. but most modern eqipment usually have trip sensors that release if you hit somthing to hard. Point is that it realy dont matter what fuel the tractor uses::: diesel-gasoline-electric and so on AS LONG AS IT HAVE ENOUGH OF IT FOR SAY 16-24 HOURS A DAY WORKING TIME, Which isnt unheard of in sowing-harvest season.

No, it doesn't need anyone there with a remote. That's what "autonomous" means. Modern tractors can already cope with sorting out what happens if the plough strikes something, because it turns out that it's not a hard problem to solve.

@@erroneousbosh well it dont matter how modern your tractor is if you use it wrong! i worked on a farm in late 1970s. the farmer had an old 1950s fordson major tractor with 55 hp.. It just stalled and you had to lift the plow if you a rock say bigger than a football that didnt move. the summer 1980 that farmer bought a 180 hp fiat tractor with 4 wheel drive.. but he didnt upgrade the homemade plow. all went fine until he hit a rock that was BIG And the 30 year old plow turnd in to MODERN ART 🤣🤣🤣🤣 The first fabric made plow he then bought had shear bolts. but he replaced that the year after with a plow that had ADJUSTABLE TRIP SPRINGS SO THAT IF SAY 1 SHEAR HIT SOMTHING THAT DIDNT GIVE WAY THAT BLADE TILTED UP. AND WAS RESET BY ANOTHER SPRING AS SOON AS THE PLOW WAS LIFTED.

No way ...

Most people have no idea the kind of hours farmers work and the idea of getting the crops in the ground or harvested in a window of the right weather.

@@billclifton8400 by this tractor something tells me even John Deere does not know ... Because seeding with this in a narrow weather window would be pain in the ass since it can operate 4 Hours max at 250kw power

@@satunnainenkatselija4478 my guess is like 80hp atleast ... You can count with 50kw ... But who would buy this kind of tractor to use it like this when you can have a 50kw one plus free maintenance and equipment plus free human power for the lifetime of this tractor and still have money left ... (Its like extragating, but you know what i mean) ... Why would you buy it to use like this

@@vratislavrusz9284 If you're seeding you're not running it at maximum power, though, and nowhere near. Your alternator and aircon pump are probably the heaviest load on the engine.

batteries, lots of batteries.

can you think of things in the world with sensors that give feedback to physical change? That type of tech is simpler and cheaper than the vehicle itself,.

You only stand there to pull it out of barn and then you program it for what ever you want.

@@vinny5518 cool, thank you.

@@satunnainenkatselija4478 Hi. No, not entirely. But more that we produce locally on small scale farms that are organic in principle and at the pinnacle of aim to support and enhance the soil. This is a huge topic and very hard to compress into just a small reply to a comment. I wonder would you find the time to read "A Small Farm Future" by Chris Smaje and perhaps too, "Oneness Vs the 1%" by Vandana Shiva. In kindness and with respect.🙂

There are 8 billion people.

@@snarkylive yes, there are. That's 16 billion pairs of hands to learn to provide for themselves. Imagine...🤔

That was a design that was used to get reactions from people. It was never designed to be a full working model.

It is very much still in development. We designed it with or without a cab. Electric version as well. Frankly the electric part is easyish. More complex systems are being worked on.

Personally, I say fck the autonomous tractors. The people that are left farm enjoy that part. Dairy robotic milkers on the other hand, find a way to make those baby’s cheaper.

@@connerbrandl5103 yeah. They remove all the pride of accomplishment from a hard day of work. Instead farmers would just be lazy people who just spent a fortune on a robot farmer basically

@@CheeseMiser everyone wants to be lazy, I just know we’re the least lazy, I enjoy the field work waaay more than milking, plus, not too many farmers around here like spending a lot of money.

Half a year minimum

As a farmer, this thing is absolute garbage

mit der heutigen Akku-Technologie wird das nichts. auf dem verfügbaren Raum kann man gar nicht so viel Energie speichern, dass es vernünftig langen würde, v.a. bei schweren Zugarbeiten. Hänge heute einen Anhänger an ein x-beliebiges E-Auto und die Reichweite ist dahin.

You ain't a farmer. This thing is horrible in every way

500k

And hope like hell the battery doesn't catch on fire.

Current battery costs are around $120 per kwh so its around $120,000

Not a problem. Food prices and wages will go up to cover the costs.

A car needs to have a high power to weight ratio battery. A machine like this can use heavy batteries

Around here they put solar panels on chicken houses. You would be shock on which way it would spin.

Not near as fast as the meter on your diesel tank when you fill you ICE tractor.

@@jamesashurst HUH?????

@@tomstenzel4271 I don't have a tractor but I have a Chevy Bolt EV. I charge at home and I pay about $1.75 for 100 miles of range. If your ICE car got 30 miles a gallon that's about 3 gallons per 100 miles, which would cost you about $12.00. So which spins faster, my elecric meter or the meter at your gas pump?

@@jamesashurst what produces the electricity to charge your car?????

There are several companies already producing large scale autonomous mowers. They're cost prohibitive for most property owners. The problem with electric is, batterie powered equipment doesn't scale very well. They do have commercial electric zero turn mowers that can work for 6hrs a day on a single charge with comparable weight to a diesel powered unit... but only on relatively flat terrain.

You're clearly clueless about farming.

It ahs no ground clearance.

Pipe dream. Put a 60 ft seed drill behind it and do a few hundred acres. NOT going to happen.

Sure does! AS IF the mega corp wouldn;t farm the data from this!