@chetsenior7253 Well, Jesus and many others before him said: "Thou shalt not kill". And it 100% failed too. Military is a destructive death cult (strict hierarchy, human sacrifices, idol worshipping-kissing flags). At least John was not part of it.
@@loosilu Lazy? Refused to do the work? Do you mean by not going out in the streets and actively protesting against the war as others were doing, rather than laying in bed and conducting a 'bed-in for peace' which even he came to realize was silly? He had that drug charge and was at risk of being deported so he had to be careful. Not sure whether he was on Nixon's 'enemies list.'
@@jamesanthony5681 He described himself as the laziest man in the world. He slept all day and did next to nothing. That's from his own mouth. It was corroborated by multiple people that he basically refused to get off his ass for any reasons.
Beatles and John fan here! When John said he’s saving lives for being in bed IS ridiculous. Sometimes we gotta admit he thought way too much of himself.
Thousands of lives were saved by the peace movement.. people have said they didn't go because of the things Lennon and others said and did. If he hasn't done stunts like go to bed for peace not as many people would have been discussing the issue. As he notes, the Beatles were being followed and photographed and written about every day and he might as well do something like that... It was easier to have the press come to his room than to organise press conferences in a town he didn't live in and he was under even more scrutiny because he had just got married and there isn't much room in a hotel bedroom so the idea of saying we are having a bed in was a way of joking about the fact that they would both be in or in the bed or in the room. Sure it seems a naive kind of stunt but these things are born organically and he didn't necessarily expect it to be discussed several years on. People were dying in the war there and then and history has sided with those who spoke out.
@@Rich-ng3yy I'm sure many beatles fans refused to serve in the war because of what lennon said, but Thousands? Especially when you could be prison-ed for refusing to serve? I'm not so sure about that. Also a beatles fan. Love his accent here as well. Gloria Emerson was also a tough lady, she was diagnosed with parkinsons in her old age and chose to shoot herself and die instead of having to be helpless and a burden. Ironic how both lennon and gloria here died of a gunshot, but in extremely different ways.
Im sure he could have done so much more specially with his power in songs like freda peeple or give peace a chance , it was dangerous to say that and make a whole generation sing a long , but also think that Yoko made him believe he only could do good and inflated his ego making him not analyze his actions and words , ending with false promises , if he had stopped consuming so many hard drugs and left his mommy issues with yoko , he could have had so much political and social power
@@gregh5061 The Beatles were the biggest band in the world, four of the most famous people at that time. I think you're understating (not by your own fault) their significant because of how different the world is now. They had an absolute hold on the world for 7 odd years. Look at the turnout after Lennon's death. It wasn't hundreds. It was thousands, hundreds of thousands from America and Britian alone. Many many more from the rest of the world.
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Gloria Emerson is one of the most important journalists of her generation, mainly because she's one of the first female journalists to cover wars/conflicts, and insisting being sent to these places, rather than regulated to the "fashion tips" sections of newspapers. She was a trailblazer and game changer for women in Journalism. For those thinking she hasn't brought up any good points to Lennon about his campaign : If a musician told their main audience of 18-24 year olds, you know that demographic that most politicians would love to grab up for a lifetime if they could, that that politician was no good, untrustworthy, or not fulfilling their obligations in office, do you think that musician's fan base would listen? Do you think they'd listen to that musician before they listened to that politician. A musician doesn't have to stop politicians. A musician only has to stop the people voting for them. And you think Artists and Musicians have no power over Politic, or Religion. You're undervaluing the power of Art to influence Society. Gloria Emerson did not underestimate that power at all, she knew its potential to guide youth, opinion, and votes. She was just talking to a "Pop" artist, whose main impetus for writing songs with McCartney, was to get swimming pools. Money. That's why you see Harrison turning the charity event using music, as a working tool for assistance. Because he did it right. He hit all forms of media to push that concert, the live album, the film, and when media changed, that concert was available in all the updated technology. Since 1971, that concert has perpetually funded UNICEF for over 50 years. And the people that say he did it "wrong" are fools. He did it right. If you get chased by the US for taxes, when something clearly says it's a charity, you've become a target. Especially if you're on FBI lists of investigation (which he and Lennon both were). Especially if you're naming the US as the main culprit as to WHY there were so many people dying and refugee in Bangladesh. Because the USA funded the Pakistan army that did that shit to millions of people. And Harrison blatantly said this in advertising / promotion of the concert. She's exasperated with an Artist who is making comical gestures imploring peace and change, but not making any real sacrifice, or enduring any hardship or punishment for doing so. Almost making it "entertainment purposes only." Muhummad Ali protested the Vietnam War or serving in it, and he most definitely got punished for doing so. This is why she asks him "What do YOU know about Protests." Because the kind of protests she's witnessed, that she's been reporting on, she's seen, have people getting beaten to death, or hauled off to prison, or never seen again. People with picket signs getting their heads bashed in by police, or shot at, tear gassed. What does John Lennon know about any of that, sitting in a bed getting room service. Are these things a joke to you is her response to him. There are people sacrificing their lives to make changes so that more lives don't get lost, and you're sitting in bed. This is why she called him a fake. He calls her a snob for being high horse about things. She tells him what you're doing is BENEATH YOU, you're BETTER than this. Where she is, is where HE should be. Not doing Barnum & Bailey circus antics. That's why she's giving Lennon a hard time. Because he's having an easy time being a "commie loving hippy."
This whole attitude seems ridiculous. It makes the suffering of the "giver" more of a focus than what they actually give. Seems like she wants John Lennon to suffer more than she wants him to make any kind of difference.
@@bravetherainbow the point is, that she was a renowned political Journalist with many years of experience in her field and knew full well that john wasnt making any difference and wouldn't make any difference, and she was right.
And I really like it when John says “well I’m sorry if you like you’re old moptops dear and you thought I was typical and you liked hard day’s night but I’ve grown up, but you obviously haven’t.”
Ask John Lennon a silly question?... "Are you grown up?", you'll get an equally silly answer from 1 of the gutsiest most ingenious human beings of all time... "Yes I'm 29!", good on ya John!, God bless you. 🙏
it's annoying how people say ''john lennon was angry'' well people made him angry by asking dumb questions and by not listening and sometimes by being outright rude to him or yoko. 🙄
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To those unaware, Gloria Emerson had been a foreign war correspondent for almost two decades by this point. She was by no means an establishment reactionary. The year after this interview she returned to Vietnam to write about the immense unhappy changes happening in the lives of the Vietnamese people which wasn’t widely covered by the press, who usually only covered the military side of things. By the end of her time there she had comforted countless young American soldiers in their final moments while John and Yoko sat in a bed. She was an incredible woman and she possessed wisdom clearly lacking in those two, as they were living in their own out of touch world at this point in time. Love John but he did not take criticism well.
Tbf John Lenon and Yoko did this to promote world peace and anti-war. They sat on the bed and got a lot of coverage for it. Don't trivialise what they achieved.
You’re take is a good example of someone who underestimates the massive influence that art can have. Nobody is gonna give a fuck about her article. It doesn’t matter how paramount you may think your message might be - presenting it to the public is the hard part. It’s like everything else in life . You may have a great idea but executing and producing that idea is the hard part. If you want to change the publics attitude, the way to do it is mass influence. The Beatles had an influence so large that it rivaled political figures and several facets of the media
Gloria Emerson (May 19, 1929 - August 3, 2004) was an American author, journalist and New York Times war correspondent. Emerson received the 1978 National Book Award in Contemporary Thought for Winners and Losers, her book about the Vietnam War. She wrote four books, in addition to articles for Esquire, Harper's, Vogue, Playboy, Saturday Review and Rolling Stone.
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It's a fascinating interview, I'd love to see the full version if one is available. What strikes me is that both John Lennon and Gloria Emerson wanted the same thing namely peace but disagreed on how best to achieve it. I can see why Gloria Emerson was annoyed with Lennon viewing his campaigns as narcissistic and ineffectual given his enormous celebrity status. However, there is no doubt that Lennon's actions influenced a huge number of people and continue to inspire people today. Gloria Emerson did the hard graft of visiting Vietnam, reporting from the frontline and exposing the horror of war from the victims' perspective for that she should be admired. Interestingly, Emerson believed that if Lennon had gone to Vietnam and visited the troops with his message of peace he could have stopped the war.
This sums it up beautifully. The Lennons certainly did some good in their efforts to advertise peace. But I think Emerson by this point had seen so much suffering in Vietnam and had seen so many risk their bodies and livelihoods to oppose the war in the US that she could not put aside her disdain for PR efforts. Had she simply said to the Lennons, here is something else you can do if you really want to see the war end and put it to them quite seriously, who knows how history might have differed.
I think Gloria Emerson had an agenda. Anyone who is against war would never attack with such venom someone who is just advertising for peace. What does she care? To interview Lennon just to call him out as a phony is very contradicting for some women who claims to be pro peace.
@@joaquindelarosa1215 She did have an agenda of ending the war. A reading of her work and her book about the era would show that. But she is condescending toward the methods espoused by John and Yoko, thinking of it as a lot of talk and little action. She was short-sighted in the way she treated John and Yoko here, certainly. Some of that came from condescension toward those representing the generation below hers.
This interview shows both approaches to achieve peace have failed miserably lol. Showing people the reality of war, and making them "jolly" about world peace is equally useless. At the end of the day, everyone is out for themselves and there will always be a clash of self interests and egos among people who hold different values and interests = never-ending conflicts and wars. Such is the pathetic state of human nature and nothing ever will change as long as humans walk the earth.
@@joaquindelarosa1215 What does she care? Why attack someone with such venom? Because she said Lennon's actions were self aggrandizing and vulgar, and she believed his actions - his silliness - undermined legitimate protests that were happening on the streets and on college campuses.That's why she cares. That's why she attacked with such venom. And Lennon deserved every bit of that venom with his ridiculousness.
Yeah a lot of bad people are fearless, that's not admirable. None of the points she brought up made sense, she's essentially berating john for not changing the world with his music, which is like asking an astronaut to go be a tank crewman for a war.
She was one of the first female journalists to cover conflicts/wars. Before her, women were regulated to providing fashion tips in newspapers / periodicals
@@ChristopherGray00 As one of the first female journalists to report on wars/conflicts, she most certainly knows what she's talking about regarding Vietnam. Music can do a lot of things. She's not wrong. Why do you think media corporations made so much money from music, but not the artists. Music is healing. Music connects people. He very well could have changed the world with his music. But if you're going to tell people give peace a chance, but you don't even seek peace within your own family and friends, or former band members, what point can you possibly hope to make that makes any impact.
What makes this such an interesting exchange is that both John/Yoko and Gloria have fairly valid points to make. They differ strongly in their approaches, hence the clash. Gloria's not wrong to call them out for the hollow nature of most celebrity performance art (which ultimately sells more records and keeps the two of them in the spotlight) while the war still rages on unabated - even John agrees with her at the beginning about that. At the same time, I do think John and Yoko were genuinely trying to help the situation, but in the end, their work was probably preaching to the choir.
I suppose you think it's better John just carried on singing pop songs and ignoring the struggle for peace and equality. John was using his influence to make a difference, whether it worked or not isnt the point, he tried. His particular type of "celebrity" would always be in the spotlight, protest or not. Jeez.
@@dcthomas8959 I mean, he did do exactly what you described - move back to writing pop songs. Even when looking back on this period in his life, he later felt that he was being co-opted by others to use his celebrity to further their causes. I do think it's admirable that John cared about these issues (mostly because of Yoko's influence, no doubt) but there is another angle where this sort of celebrity gesturing does potentially cheapen the cause and make it seem self-serving. The war didn't even end for another 6 years, so as to whether it was effective...that's debatable too.
@@VideoAmericanStyle Oh yeah those great pop songs he carried on writing like Happy Xmas War is Over Freeda People Power To The People Imagine Working Class Hero Gimme Some Truth Give Peace A Chance Etc etc. The list of happy pop tunes is endless..
@@user-wp8vy8le3y Richard Widmark in Kiss of death made a name for himself pushing a lady in a wheelchair down a stairway while smiling and laughing like a psycho (the part he played)
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Intimidation doesn't matter. The '60s was the budding of this (Gloria's) establishment. Gloria and the rest of media weren't intimidated because they knew they controlled the narrative. They don't anymore, however.
Why would anyone be intimidated by Lennon? He was a drug addicted hippie. He was also controlled opposition. And yoko was his Handler. The beatles were a psyop created by Tavistock.
There are so many people commenting here that are missing the very point, and the lady doing the interview (and failing miserably at it) didn't get it either. John Lennon being a Beatle, being someone who had everything in life one could ask for (fame & fortune) did something that so many others then and today did not do. He stood up for what he believed in, and although some of it was "weird" did what he could to spread a message of peace & love. He could have done anything. ANYTHING! Yet he chose to do what he could to promote peace, and what's wrong with that? I've read here this reporter was doing interviews and reporting to the world from the front lines in Vietnam, and did some charity work there too. Great! However; she was doing (mostly) her job. John Lennon, was a musician, not a reporter, so how can you put him down for doing something most musicians (if not all) never did. What did Mick Jagger do for peace? What did Roger Doltery or Pete Townsand do? Write and perform a rock opera that had nothing to do with peace. What were any of those world famous musicians doing to promote the peace movement? Not even the other Beatles got involved. So how can anyone knock what he was doing? Gloria Emerson was rude, mean, condensending, and down right rotten to them, and then proves just how unprofessional she was by walking out on them! Shame on her! She could have treated them both with so much more dignity, and gave them credit for what they were attempting to do and help spread the word vs just ripping on them like that!
Maybe she was jealous that they got so much attention when she had actually been at the front line. The Lennons were using their fame for good. John was right. she hadn't grown up.
I with Gloria here. They lived in La La Land completely out of touch thinking their antics would stop the war. btw I wish there were more interviews like this.
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Gloria Emerson (May 19, 1929 - August 3, 2004)[1] was an American author, journalist and New York Times war correspondent. Emerson received the 1978 National Book Award in Contemporary Thought for Winners and Losers, her book about the Vietnam War.[2] She wrote four books, in addition to articles for Esquire, Harper's, Vogue, Playboy, Saturday Review and Rolling Stone.
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Read ‘Winners and Losers’ by Gloria Swanson to understand how much she knew about war. She was a reporter in Vietnam “in the sh*t” and then spent considerable time roaming around the country interviewing people affected by the war. Garry Wills dismissed the book in a totally soulless review, but he was a desk jockey when it came to proximity to the war, about which he pontificated at great length.
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To be confronted by someone who didn't agree with him was a great shock to John. During this time he was surrounded by sycophants who agreed with anything he said. He was living in a bubble and had no real understanding of the world outside. Gloria was right to call him out and question his commitment to the peace process. Time proved she was right....within a year all his enthusiasm was gone .
It’s strange to see how stubborn she could be. I was alive when this interview happened. I was 12 or 13 and I knew that he was trying to turn his fame into a chance to tell us to stop killing each other. No wonder they hated him. The war was ridiculous and brought only suffering to the world.
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You know it's so funny because back in the time of the 70s practicality was the only way anything could get done...to advertise in a video that only one person would watch would have sounded absurd. Do we know that's incorrect? Of course, RU-vid. One small act repeated millions of times has a major impact., I have to say that John Lennon was very insightful. I'm not one of those people to love everything John Lennon did. Infact I thought this was crazy untill I thought about it. In this idea he had a great insight and was ahead of his time. . Also I got it! He wasn't saying that he was going to save the world by staying in bed he just said I have a honeymoon. I can take it and go to France and see the Eiffel tower or I can do something that will look unusual that people will want to ask me about it and I will tell them.im doing it for peace. That's yours ahead of its time . I see people say they cringe at the time when they saw them in bed but I have to say it's a brilliant idea. Ahead of his time. If we all did our daily routine and claimed to do it for a cause that topic would be much more on people's thoughts ...like us still talking about John Lennon and Yoko ono staying in bed...For what? Peace...still talking about peace peace.... we think John Lennon should have done this big event but he was going to go on a honeymoon either way....so why not avertise peace .. so he gave up going to Hawaii for a week or ten days I'm relaxed in order to advertise Peace by staying in bed. I think that constitutes a good thing and anybody should not have the gall ro mock that?
Well actually I think it's stupid. Yes we talk about it but not in the way he intended to talk about. it came out exactly like the lady thought it would. He got lots of criticism about it and yes he was a hypocrite talking and singing about peace. Has his song do anything except being a tearjerker? Just another Ballad that the rest of the hypocrites like him sing and pretend it has meaning? I mean in all seriousness why we talk about it exactly why we they talked about it. I love the music of the Beatless and I dont deny the sincerity of him trully beleiving what he is saying. I believe he meant everything he said. But no matter how good natured it is - it is not real. This is why people mock the songs I mean Imagine and Give peace a chance to this day. Nobody can take somoene so detached from politics and war seriously when they really think they are doing something REALLY INSPIRATIONAL. John Lennon was a talented musician. He could make pop songs like nobody else. but I think even if he sang about shit- those songs woul be popular. This stage of his life - All I can say is - its full of delussion. I bet if he never been shot he would lmao at this remembering that period. The bed thing was really really lazy bs. Im staying in bed not going to Hawai for World peace. I mean that is some heavy delusion. When u think about it - you cant even be sure if he was mocking the world with that or something. I think this is yoko's stupid crappy influence over him. Actually I really think this is Yoko's influence over him. Doing absurd things in the name of something. Defenetely Yoko's BS. He was not ahead of his time. This was bizzare and self aggrandizing behavior. Look at me Im John Lennon I do this for world peace... There is not even symbolism behind it. Planting a tree, donating money to peacekeepers, even giving New Year greeting signed by him to UN soldiers would make way more sense. There is a reason why nobody likes Yoko Ono. She is really a messed up creature. I think she really messed up John to some degree in a negative way. Also I dont like the reporter being snobbish.
"Oh, do you want: nice, middle-class, gestures, for peace, and intellectual manifestos, written by a lot of half-witted intellectuals, and NOBODY READS THEM!" -#JL
@HP-tm4kjSo what? She's still talking bullshit here, coming across as if her only goal in life was throw napalm at some kids in Vietnam while yelling, "MURRICAAAA!!!" While at the same time being absolutely aggressive and condenscending towards anybody refusing to join her in licking Nixon's boots.
She seems to be saying why do something symbolic when you could be doing something practical. But she's talking to a musician. He's not going to negotiate any peace treaties on behalf of the UN. He's going to write some songs and direct the public's attention to some conflicts and I think that's enough. There's always such in fighting in the liberal left and it never achieves anything.
@@loosilu Elvis did. Possibly moreso. Kurt Russel made a movie with him in the mid-sixties, when his popularity was waning from the stupid movies he was making, and he said every day on set there were thousands and thousands of girls on the edges of the set watching and screaming. If that was what it was like during the lowest point of his career.....Shelley Fabares said the same thing. She made 3 films with him in the mid-sixties, during that lowest period of his career. She tells a story to illustrate how mind-blowing it must have been for him during times of his career when he was uber-popular. She said she was on lot at Universal filming with him, and there was a lunch break. So she went to the lot commisar. It was huge --- there were about 700 people in there eating. These were other actors, stage people, prop people, stunt people. These were Hollywood insiders and employees who worked on the sets everyday. It was their job, and they were so accustomed to this that NOBODY was a star to them. They had seen all the big stars and it didn't excite them --- it was just their job and the stars were their colleagues. Suddenly she saw Elvis outside the door looking in through the door window. He was shielding his eyes from the sun so he could see through the reflection in the door. Suddenly, every single one of the 700 people eating stood up and began sprinting to the door. He saw the tsunamie of people coming for him and he had a panicked look and took off running. Her point was if this is how Hollywood insiders who were no longer phased by the famous reacted to Elvis during the lowest point in his career, can you imagine how fans reacted to him in the '50s and '70s?
@@loosilu You have no idea --- there is very little film available from the '50s of crowds reacting to Elvis, believe it or not. Plus, John Lennon could walk around NYC in the '70s without being bothered --- Elvis could not have done that in the '70s. I mean, George Harrison even played groupie when Elvis played Madison Square Garden in '73 and stood outside the Garden where Elvis' limousine entered and exited, and said he looked like "Vishnu".
@@loosilu Elvis couldn't even walk through the lobby of the Vegas Hilton without people losing their minds. I know a woman from Memphis who said she was a little girl when Elvis was big. One day she was in the car with her mother, and Elvis pulled up to the red light next to them. Her MOTHER said to her, "That's the best-looking man I've ever seen in my life", and when the light turned green her mother engaged in a high-speed chase trying to follow Elvis. A grown woman with a child. This happened to him all the time. John Lennon had that schizophrenic Vietnam vet come on his property and squat there. Elvis had fellow celebrities jump the gates at Graceland, such as Springsteen, and sprint up to the lawn to try to meet him.
I like how Yoko proposes some 4th dimensional buddhist philosophy that if you exude joy that it could stop violence and evils elsewhere. And the reporter just won’t even entertain the idea or challenge it because she finds such a concept silly.
I mean that is pretty fucking silly. I think the interviewer is saying that Lennon’s assertion that the anti-war movement needs to take its self less seriously in order to achieve its ends sounds condescending coming from a multi-millionaire who would never face the threat of being drafted or having a son being drafted or facing any of the societal ills he’s protesting against. Yet he tells the common people working hard to combat these social pressures that they’re coming at the whole thing wrong and that instead they need to have a self-aggrandizing series of narcissistic publicity stunts.
@@dakotaspruell1083 John however makes the better points that he uses the platform and gift he has to promote and help give symbols to the movement for peace, which he’s being persecuted for by the Nixon/Hoover administration for. It’s why he refers to America as fascist. Also, to be rich and be able to prevent yourself or your family from being drafted off to war doesn’t mean that one can’t fight for the end of violence. Plus the final point of happiness was less of a general statement, in my interpretation, and more a commentary on the supporters of the war and those who got involved as being ones who are enraged and violently raging against dissent. At this time, protesters were shot to death and harassed in schools for wearing armbands, I already mentioned Lennon being help back by the US government for political reasons. At the end of the day, she was really looking for reasons to discredit Lennon’s message and he tried to say that he wants to tell it how it is and promote peace with his platform, he wants to join the protests but literally can’t.
@@dakotaspruell1083 it takes all kinds. organizing a movement needs every skill set and a diversity of perspectives to draw more people in. everybody can contribute something different. he just happened to be a musician.
@@dakotaspruell1083 John was born in a shit home where his dad left and his mom died and he still managed to become the most famous person of the 1960s, a cultural icon, an inspiration for billions. He didn’t have to call for peace to maintain his celebrity. He could have easily just banged out slightly worse Beatle type songs, make million, and remain in the media’s good grace for the rest of his life like Paul did. But he didn’t, did he? He took a stand against war, Nixon, and American imperialism in a time where white celebrities simply did not do that. The peace movement needed a face, it needed structure, an ambassador with the ability to clearly explain their ideas and grievances. John stepped into that role and sacrificed everything for a movement he believed in and you’re hating on him because he was successful at pushing the message of peace?? Fuck you. Call Martin Luther King Jr a narcissist, call John Brown an egomaniac, call Andrea Constand just a money hungry attention seeker. I dare you because your backwards arguments won’t hold any water there but because John made a successful song all of sudden he’s a narcissist? Nope. No. I call bullshit.
@@Hester-l6k idk, the beatles had money issues at the later part of their career when allen klein was squirreling away money and they got into their lawsuits and business issues. not to say john was living in squalor or anything, of course. but they didn't have as much as you'd think. several of their wives later ran into money issues, for example.
no its more like this: Gloria: "do you really think your songs and so called peace activisms are saving lives whilst you are far and remote from the very horrors you are protesting against? You are living in a dream world." John: "it may save lives in the future, and, just to be clear, its an advertising campaign for peace. I'm going to make it jolly and sing with all of them." Yoko: *annoyingly waffling nonsensical statements in the background and at the end*
@@Gretny The only thing she lost was her desire to put up with all that nonsense, she was a serious journalist. She at least took the time to do something productive by going to Vietnam instead of lying on a bed.
Unfortunately, Gloria is the more credible one in the discussion because she was a war correspondent and experienced what they’re talking about firsthand. In her eyes, John and Yoko were foolish and naive - which maybe they were.
And yet her entire attitude toward the interview was itself self-aggrandizing. That accent of hers says everything about her disposition: elitist to the core.
Tell me one thing she said that was a good point All she did was insult them and willfully misinterpret everything they said Gloria was just trying to make a name for herself off their backs. Total narcissist
@@JohnSmith-su3ze Yes a total narcissist whose journalism and reporting contradicted what the military were claiming were "body counts" in Vietnam, and the rising drug use amongst the soldiers. Which could have gotten her in a shitload of trouble, cuz it was about her ego. Yeah.
@@JohnSmith-su3ze " @JohnSmith-su3ze 7 months ago Tell me one thing she said that was a good point" "What does John Lennon know about Protests." It's a very good question.
@@ChristopherGray00 Um ....... If a musician told their main audience of 18-24 year olds, you know that demographic that most politicians would love to grab up for a lifetime if they could, that that politician was no good, untrustworthy, or not fulfilling their obligations in office, do you think that musician's fan base would listen? Do you think they'd listen to that musician before they listened to that politician. A musician doesn't have to stop politicians. A musician only has to stop the people voting for them. And you think Artists and Musicians have no power over Politic, or Religion. You're undervaluing the power of Art to influence Society. Gloria Emerson did not underestimate that power at all, she knew its potential to guide youth, opinion, and votes. She was just talking to a "Pop" artist, whose main impetus for writing songs with McCartney, was to get swimming pools. Money. That's why you see Harrison turning the charity event using music, as a working tool for assistance. Because he did it right. He hit all forms of media to push that concert, the live album, the film, and when media changed, that concert was available in all the updated technology. Since 1971, that concert has perpetually funded UNICEF for over 50 years. And the people that say he did it "wrong" are fools. He did it right. If you get chased by the US for taxes, when something clearly says it's a charity, you've become a target. Especially if you're on FBI lists of investigation (which he and Lennon both were). Especially if you're naming the US as the main culprit as to WHY they were so many people dying and refugee in Bangladesh. Because the USA funded the Pakistan army that did that shit to millions of people. And Harrison blatantly said this in advertising / promotion of the concert. She's exasperated with an Artist who is making comical gestures imploring peace and change, but not making any real sacrifice, or enduring any hardship or punishment for doing so. Almost making it "entertainment purposes only." Muhummad Ali protested the Vietnam War or serving in it, and he most definitely got punished for doing so. That's why she's giving Lennon a hard time. Because he's having an easy time being a "commie loving hippy."
@@DrTomoculus this. If not for you I would have had to comment something similar. I like Lennon a lot, and I think he had good intentions and purpose with these peace movements. But in this video and argument particularly, Gloria was indubitably right
I agree with you. John was not that great a person. He was so rich but let his ex-wife Cynthia penniless. She was so broke that Paul McCartney came to her aid.
This interview unfortunately went south when Yoko starting talking at the end about making it jolly. Up until then John was holding his own with Ms. Emerson.
3 years late but I want to say I dont think he really was holding his own. Think he got backed into a corner as Gloria was totally dominating that argument. It was evidently clear that Gloria was verbally, maybe even factually, beating john with a stick
@@ronnie9077This Gloria, whoever she is (history seems to have rightfully forgotten about her), has no point at all here. All she manages is to get across as both one of Nixon's bootlickers *AND* highly arrogant and condenscending towards anybody who refused to lick Nixon's boots along with her. Some people here in the comments are saying she and John would have the same goals and are only trying to achieve it via different means, but this "interview" only makes her look like her only goal in life was to throw napalm on some kids in Vietnam while waving a flag and yelling, "MURRICAAAAA!"
Beatles fan but i'm with the journalist. At the same time, this reminds me a bit of the film The Trial of the Chicago 7, where there is a debate about the importance of "real action" against "cultural revolution" actions. At the end, both are important for different reasons and need to go together.
She is pretty adversarial, unfortunately Yoko, she maybe well intended, but yes, many people in Rwanda, Bosnia, Syria, The Holocaust etc were happy to kill and torment. In genocide people go mad and lose their minds sadly. Trust me on that.
I support the anti war movement to the extent I can. However when you are confronted with a humanitarian catastrophe caused by people and violence...if it’s large enough and widespread enough....if 2 million people are going to be possible wiped out like Bosnia....you “may have to use force to stop people from getting killed”, it’s a harsh reality.
Her argument was utterly nonsensical and lacked any logical connection. It's difficult to see how a smile could be indicative of someone's tendency to engage in harmful behavior. Moreover, there are countless examples of individuals who appear perfectly pleasant while committing terrible acts of violence. Clearly, her argument was immature and failed to consider the intricate nature of such issues.
It’s refreshing see people who are arguing, do so without name calling or screaming loudly at each other. We’ve lost the ability to argue different positions civilly.
Gloria Emerson was brave, but to me she just comes across as pompous and confrontational, she doesn’t listen to Lennon, nor let’s him speak. And the way she mispronounces Peter Pan’s “Never Never Land” as “Nether Nether Land” is simply hilarious.
@HP-tm4kj "He started all the bull crap we see from Hollywood and the music industry." I disagree. We (left/right) can't start anything. We have no choice. Since USSR collapsed and US war slaves lost their main enemy, the Money Makers said: "If you don't want to fight in big World wars, you will fight with yourself on your own territory". So our russian war slaves started war with their former USSR partners on their own territory, and USA started to prepare for civil war. Why you americans are upset about Hollywood, when so many people will die soon? Who cares about music industry?
@@DanAir No, she wasn't right in the slightest. It was an idiotic thing to say. The war in Vietnam had absolutely nothing to do with how happy American soldiers were or how happy American protestors were for that matter. It's a statement so asinine, so apolitical and so divorced from reality, as well as condescending to the protesters who are actually taking the risks and putting their bodies on the line, that it functions as hard proof of Gloria's assertion that they have no understanding of the issue and are living in Never-never land.
He and the other 3 helped to save my life. I woke up when they stole John from us. I became an activists, after 5 years of apathy. We have the squares like her around today.
@@Greenballoffire They still think she broke up the Beatles so everything she does or says is stupid. I find Yoko to be very intelligent and doesn't get enough credit.
@@Hester-l6kIt’s all Paul fans that don’t care to see how it was Paul who pushed John, George and even Ringo away with his need for control and his songs that at the end both John and George didn’t care for. Ringo left first because Paul kept wanting to record his drum parts, George left after because Paul was telling him what to play and John left, temporarily perhaps like George said, because he wanted a change. Paul then told the press and sued the other 3. Where is Yoko in any of this?!
Even as a Lennon fan, I have to say...... I'm on Gloria's side. John & Yoko's campaign for peace achieved just one thing..... publicity for John & Yoko. At 29 John considers himself to have "grown up" but their actions and behaviour in the name of peace were really very childish. And within 2 years John had gotten bored with this stance and decided that protesting was the answer.... until he got bored with that and went off to play drunken rock start...... until he got bored of that !!! and so it went on. He finally found out that the best peace you can ever hope to find in life is "your own peace of mind" But he discovered that just as his time was running out. Paul McCartney had found that peace of mind a decade earlier with Linda and the kids on his farm. For my money, Paul was the grown up.................... That said............. RIP John :-(
Used to agree with Lennon and thought he was too ‘far out’ for the woman. I think the interviewer is saying that Lennon’s assertion; that the anti-war movement needs to take its self less seriously in order to achieve its ends, sounds condescending coming from a multi-millionaire who would never face the threat of being drafted, having a son being drafted or facing any of the societal ills he’s protesting against. Yet he tells the common people; working hard to combat these social pressures, that they’re coming at the whole thing wrong and that instead they need to have a self-aggrandizing series of narcissistic publicity stunts. Could you imagine if a rich, beyond privileged, celebrity today said that the George Floyd protests need to lighten up and have more of a sense of humor? I love Lennon, but it’s sickening how out of touch he is. God the lady balls on that woman! To actually call John out on his bullshit when he’s like the biggest celebrity in the world, it’s really fucking admirable. She probably got shit on by Lennon’s rabid fans for the rest of her life. Lennon starts to make a good point at the end there just saying he’s proud of his efforts no matter how they come off, but Yoko cuts him off with completely delusional childlike verbal diarrhea.
I can see both points. But i think john is right too. Because he's a celebrity, he can use his platform to inspire other people through music to join the movement, thus he says its an advertising campaign for peace. John going out and giving up his status and possesions wouldn't make nearly as much difference as using his platform to voice about peace to millions would - even if it seems hypocritical. He inpsired so many people to support the peace movement and it makes a difference because one of the reasons america pulled out of vietnam was loss of public support. And i think a lot of people forget Yoko literally experierenced these things as a child in toyko after it was bombed by america in WW2, she recalls her family carrying their posessions in a wheelbarrow and bartering for food. She is not removed from war and anguish and she was just as involved in that peace campaign as lennon. Plus i think their philosophy on peace is valid, think of how in WW1 everyone stopped fighting on christmas day - but saying lets stop fighting on christmas isn't a serious mindset, its a joyful one, one of singing and dancing
Gloria Emerson understood protest and the Vietnam War better than Lennon could ever hope, at least in 1969. She said on a radio interview a few years later that she believed John Lennon *WAS UNDERMINING* legitimate Vietnam War protests that were happening in the streets, on college campuses, and in front of the White House, with his silliness and naivete. I think Lennon even realized in time he was being ridiculous.
She felt that he was undermining the movement because in her opinion his publicity stunts were ridiculous, and so she believed everyone thought like her.
Lennon came from a lower working class background to become a millionaire through talent and hard work. To say he's a privileged is quite insulting. plus George Floyd was a criminal.
Celebrities should just stay out of these issues and do what they do best. I remember an interview with Elvis where they asked him about his opinion of the Vietnam war. He said 'Honey, I'm just an entertainer so I prefer to keep my opinions on controversial topics to myself.' That's how Lennon handled things until Yoko got involved.
Wow. I love being an ignorant bigot entertaining people while somewhere in the middle east the west is killing a million children! It's like as if....! Celebrities are famous because of the millions of people who support them from different parts of the world. Being vocal about wars is the least you could do as someone influential. And John Lennon was one of them. Bless his soul
John will be remembered for being a great musician and activist. Yoko made a great point of the “unhappy killers” (but in this day and age, there are way too many cases of happy killings). John was smart and witty throughout. I love this man.
They look bad on all sides. The interviewer was clearly a snob. But Lennon was lecturing people about peace on Earth from high end hotel rooms in two of the safest countries in the world. Lennon filmed it making himself the centre of the whole thing and even recorded a single with a promotional video. And he lost his temper repeatedly if anyone dared challenge him on it.
It's as if we gate-keep peace activist. I find it endearing that someone in a high-end hotel room decides to use their time and money to push for world peace. He could sit on his bank account and never worry about it. Meanwhile, he explains that his fame is his weapon that he uses to bring peace to the foreground. If he was just a small-town man with no fame, no one would hear or read it.
people weren't listening,that's what he was angry about.I don't think he was always angry,only when dealing with difficult and rude people.People often asked him ''who's music do you think is better,you or paul's?'' people wound him up on purpose for a response,then didn't like it when he gave one. 🙄
That to happen is a fairly new thing - in movies usually and rarely in real life - And even if they smiled they are not happy people and less non war shootings happen nowadays