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John Lennox: Has Science Buried God? 

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Host Eric Metaxas and Oxford professor John Lennox explore the question, "Has science buried God?" -- discussing the fine-tuned universe, evolution, logic, history, and more! "It's like we're an old Vaudeville team" says Metaxas, who eggs the legendary Lennox into retelling his equally legendary roast chicken anecdote. The interview was hosted by the Colson Center and took place in Washington D.C., in May 2019.
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@patbiggam8138
@patbiggam8138 2 года назад
"We need to be a lot more humble about what we know and what we do not know." Key statement by Dr Lennox. 👌
@jonathanezekiel6676
@jonathanezekiel6676 2 года назад
One thing that makes John beautiful is his humility
@derhafi
@derhafi 2 года назад
Lennox and humility...That is always rich coming from somebody who thinks he “knows” God, THE God, humility by those who think that the universe was created with him in mind, that they knows the one creator of the universe, and know what this divine being wants. Jeah, that has all the hallmarks of humility right there.
@TheSpacePlaceYT
@TheSpacePlaceYT 10 месяцев назад
@@derhafi Indeed coming from someone who believes their own morals can be used to capitally punish a human being even though moral statements are exactly the same in intrinsic value. Atheism is definitely the epitome of humility guys.
@derhafi
@derhafi 10 месяцев назад
@@TheSpacePlaceYT Aside from the fact that Atheism makes no claims about anything regarding moral, that you in fact use your own choosen morals "to punish a human being" (it just happens that you jumped on some theologien bandwagon with this one.. i have to assume) and set aside that I never said anything about "capital punishment" at all, all those things aside....you really see no flaw in Lennox "arguments"?
@cameahgill8464
@cameahgill8464 4 года назад
These lectures on God and science have been more beneficial than I can describe thank you so much for sharing 🙏
@Mr.Caring
@Mr.Caring 3 года назад
Hi. Where are you from
@timnray99
@timnray99 2 года назад
@@Mr.Caring LOL
@GodsDefender-
@GodsDefender- 8 месяцев назад
Everyone is desperate for meaning in this materialistic world
@moses777exodus
@moses777exodus 2 года назад
*_“The more I study science, the more I believe in God.”_* --- Albert Einstein (1879 - 1955), founder of modern physics (Theory of Relativity inter alia) and 1921 Nobel prize winner
@fortynine3225
@fortynine3225 10 месяцев назад
That is just not true. Einstein was a superficial person and prettymuch a atheist also.
@TheSpacePlaceYT
@TheSpacePlaceYT 10 месяцев назад
@@fortynine3225 Do research before you begin to speak the stupid.
@aratiger6796
@aratiger6796 3 года назад
One of the best challenging against atheism culture by John Lennox ,God bless him and his family, Amin.
@cynthiapittman452
@cynthiapittman452 3 года назад
Absolutely AGREE ., AMEN
@annuitcptis3032
@annuitcptis3032 3 года назад
This lecture was totally devine!!! Thank God for him and others like him!
@fioweaver
@fioweaver 4 года назад
We need more Christian thinkers like John Lennox. He is a gem!
@ck_banana_noob7145
@ck_banana_noob7145 3 года назад
setsebbati haha coming from a typical anti-theist
@TudorGeorgescuNL
@TudorGeorgescuNL 3 года назад
@@ck_banana_noob7145 If Lennox were Isaac Newton's friend, he would have snitched Newton for heresy.
@gagahouse
@gagahouse 3 года назад
@setsebbati How can you be in shock if you are dead? Or are you admitting now that there is life after death? Extreme atheists are so hateful it completely contorts their logic.
@BradWatsonMiami
@BradWatsonMiami 3 года назад
Jesus Christ WAS Lord. The Messiah died sometime in the 40 years after his crucifixion on the 1st Day of Passover Friday April 7, 30 AD and was entombed in the JesusFamilyTomb.com (and on RU-vid). The literal physical Ascension into the heavens is a myth. God-incarnate has been famously reincarnated many times in the last 1,950 years. Have you read 7seals.blogspot.com ? Only the returned Christ & Albert Einstein reincarnated could produce that. It's triggered The Apocalypse/Revel-ation which is NOT the 'end of the world'. COVID-19 is part of Seal #4: S=19 (18.6) Theory. Donald Trump = 666 using the 'Evil=48 Code' of A=49, B50...Z74. He's the current Antichrist. D52+O63+N62+A49+L60+D52 + T68+R66+U69+M61+P64 = 666
@landofthefree2023
@landofthefree2023 3 года назад
He certainly is... You need to take in as much of him as we can
@blindlemon9
@blindlemon9 4 года назад
I love how Lennox, clearly a very brilliant man, comes across as intellectually humble and honest. His ever present clarity of thought and ability to communicate deep philosophical arguments in a cogent manner make him perhaps the finest modern proponent of rational Christianity. Doubtless, recalcitrant atheists will instantaneously and dogmatically close themselves to his solid arguments, but some open-minded agnostics who really take the time and effort to mentally digest his writings may well find themselves pulled a bit closer to the possibility of a deity. In any case, he is an absolute joy to read, watch, and listen to.
@ch-zq3ld
@ch-zq3ld 3 года назад
you'll realize it one day but reaching athiests will never be done via modern religion, cant attach a title like christian they wont believe the horse shit. The new meta is "spirituality"
@paulwest8583
@paulwest8583 3 года назад
AWESOME Lennox is so humble.
@paulwest8583
@paulwest8583 3 года назад
Agree 100%. Wish I had heard this years ago...so good. Thanks you for sharing.
@andyroid5028
@andyroid5028 3 года назад
*VERY well stated. ✓*
@sysprogmanadhoc2785
@sysprogmanadhoc2785 3 года назад
Lennox pushes the faith argument. As religions are mutually exclusive at best one or perhaps zero faiths can be correct. Ergo faith is not a reliable pathway to truth Lennox might be a brilliant mathematican, but his logic is puny
@JacquelineHahn1
@JacquelineHahn1 4 года назад
I love the conversations on Socratesinthecity keep them coming. God bless both John and Eric.
@airikd6535
@airikd6535 4 года назад
Dr. Lennox, a man of faith that truly loves the Lord his God with all his mind and strength, whom the world is not worthy. God bless
@mcmanustony
@mcmanustony 4 года назад
Is he dead?
@airikd6535
@airikd6535 4 года назад
@@mcmanustony no, thankfully he is still with us. Just recognizing a long life well lived, that's all.
@chriper77
@chriper77 4 года назад
He's still alive :)
@jay221982
@jay221982 4 года назад
@@airikd6535 Dude.. Can you edit your comment for the present tense, please? I was saddened to read your comment thinking Dr.Lennox passed away.
@airikd6535
@airikd6535 4 года назад
JayMatt done.
@scyaaglads7723
@scyaaglads7723 4 года назад
This man is a treasure! God bless him!
@wassilykandinsky4616
@wassilykandinsky4616 4 года назад
In your view everybody who confirms your bias is a treasure. Belief is based on bias, science is skeptic of any biases.
@robinwarren6924
@robinwarren6924 4 года назад
@@wassilykandinsky4616 i don't think he's considering him a treasure, i think OP thinks that the god he beliefs in has the power to "bless", why do you bring all the science stuff?
@wassilykandinsky4616
@wassilykandinsky4616 4 года назад
@@robinwarren6924. Scyaa Glad's: "This man is a treasure! " And you: "i don't think he's considering him a treasure". "why do you bring all the science stuff?" Lennox claims that science proves his particular Christian god.
@MaximusMcCullough
@MaximusMcCullough 3 года назад
Simply Excellent
@nietzsche1991
@nietzsche1991 2 года назад
@@wassilykandinsky4616 Same can be said about an atheist. Also it's not science vs theism. It's a false dichotomy. It's theism vs materialism/naturalism. Science is neutral.
@dmightiestone
@dmightiestone 3 года назад
Praise the Lord GOD, the creator of everything. For revealing HIMSELF to us through HIS works...
@honestfriend767
@honestfriend767 2 года назад
He also reveals Himself directly. I’ve heard the Holy Spirit you can too just pray and have faith.
@anamneses28
@anamneses28 4 года назад
Never get tired of listening to the wisdom of the great John Lennox. 💟💗💖 Thank you SITC!
@khurramhkhan
@khurramhkhan 2 года назад
Although I'm Muslim, i loved his interview. He simply buried atheism faith with his brilliant arguments. Will love to hear him again
@PInk77W1
@PInk77W1 2 года назад
Very true
@jamesperkins4068
@jamesperkins4068 Год назад
Is this real? This guy Eric, representing christianity, immediately speaks of hate which is an element of the purges of the christian church. Hate ignores the true teachings of scripture. These two are feeding their own egos whilst being encouraged and applauded by presumably people of faith. These believers who profess to know the mind of their god fail to display humility with a demeanour that may give me an understanding and desire to know their lord, their Jesus? Atheists and believers base their debate on information of history’s accounts provided by fallible humans. Their contribution has some worth. We can listen, learn, contemplate but never venerate these speakers or give them credence of special insights. They are human, as fallible as those disciples and founders of the early church, as well as its current managers. This is yet another debate about the unprovable truth with the presenters who promote themselves and, of course , their status and income.
@busterlord6595
@busterlord6595 Год назад
​​@@jamesperkins4068 An interesting perspective...however I must simply disagree with the notion that the speakers especially lennox are in any way anti-humble how you got that thought leads me to believe you simply did not watch the whole presentation, as for The host he is quite obviously telling jokes to make the presentation more interesting. As for the idea that these concepts are simply unknowable I again disagree under the premise that the whole of christianity is built under the research of Gods revealing to us which is done via history which has always been an important method of learning fact. Your accusation that these men are attempting to line their pockets I simply find to be Ad hominem and also unlikely to be true yet I acknowledge that you are free to your opinion. Anyway I hope you keep up the search for truth without the idea that the truth is unknowable (As we all would be wasting our time and would have realized sooner). All that to say Jesus loves you too!
@jamesperkins4068
@jamesperkins4068 Год назад
@@busterlord6595 Is it Buster?. Some info for you. I was raised in Catholicism, a true follower of Christ. I found it dogmatic and myopic at 16 then at 30 I went to several Christian denominations to compare their worship and teachings, was born again in a brethren church subsequently spent a year at a charismatic UK Anglican. I had repeated doubts about the authenticity of the bible as it was produced by humans who have. since recorded history, generally shown to be not living in the image of their god, fight each other and use religion, their Gods authority, to act on behalf of their nations. I have not found a reference to Jesus needing a jocular character to make his presentation more interesting. During the interview Eric did interject with remarks that detracted from the speaker’s need to impart his knowledge. I would respect him if he directed my focus on the ensuing interview. I know from my own experiences and development that little rational discussion will emerge when belief and bible quotes become the source of ‘proof’. I used to be like that until I listened to discussions of all faiths and atheists. None of them have proof and that no longer bothers me. They are content. Contentment can release hormones of well-being so they feel no need to change what causes them to function satisfactorily. That is until they question and seek further understanding of the human condition I merely suggest to readers that it is worthy to not be too praising of those who promote themselves, who satisfy their own sense of well-being instead of being providers of information upon which we can dwell and can estimate its worth. In all faiths, notably several US evangelists, there are those, mere humans who speak as if they have a special knowledge of their God’s desires, who are followed and financed by those who need a strong voice, by those who are unable to personally find the strong voice of their Lord. You are a well-intentioned person and do not doubt your reasons for your beliefs. That seems to function well for you. Good. You are happily rejoicing with me the benefits of this wonderful planet. I know myself and I know my true identity. I make statements but it is of no consequence to me how they are received. That is the choice of the recipient. May your God be with you. Jim
@sherrieflynn252
@sherrieflynn252 11 месяцев назад
​@@jamesperkins4068 Proof? What do you consider proof? Direct or indirect evidence.... Testable science only or scientific theories? Historical and archeological verification Or. the supernatural validation of Prophecy?
@onceinawhile7
@onceinawhile7 3 года назад
The host is so charismatic and effortlessly hilarious, absolutely a joy to listen to
@jamesperkins4068
@jamesperkins4068 Год назад
Is this real? This guy Eric, representing christianity, immediately speaks of hate which is an element of the purges of the christian church. Hate ignores the true teachings of scripture. These two are feeding their own egos whilst being encouraged and applauded by presumably people of faith. These believers who profess to know the mind of their god fail to display humility with a demeanour that may give me an understanding and desire to know their lord, their Jesus? Atheists and believers base their debate on information of history’s accounts provided by fallible humans. Their contribution has some worth. We can listen, learn, contemplate but never venerate these speakers or give them credence of special insights. They are human, as fallible as those disciples and founders of the early church, as well as its current managers. This is yet another debate about the unprovable truth with the presenters who promote themselves and, of course , their status and income.
@LifeandLifeMoreAbundantly
@LifeandLifeMoreAbundantly 11 месяцев назад
@@jamesperkins4068 Christians are quite special ~Eph 1 “And He(God) put all things under His(Jesus) feet, and gave Him to be head over all things to the church, 23 which is His body, the fullness of Him who fills all in all.”
@Mrguy-ds9lr
@Mrguy-ds9lr 3 года назад
John lennox doesn't get enough play. Love his humility. To see him talk with others, and he so gentile. I love it. And want to imitate it. Love you brotha John. Mr. Lennox.
@johnc4624
@johnc4624 4 года назад
Though I have heard this man a dozen times.. I cannot get enough of his wisdom. Brilliant.. deep.. wonderful. Those who question his wisdom don't have an answer - only the question.
@dumbthings7800
@dumbthings7800 3 года назад
Neil Brown looks like you didn’t get the argument you wanted😂
@johnc4624
@johnc4624 3 года назад
Everyone wants to rule lyrics
@jamesperkins4068
@jamesperkins4068 Год назад
Is this real? This guy Eric, representing christianity, immediately speaks of hate which is an element of the purges of the christian church. Hate ignores the true teachings of scripture. These two are feeding their own egos whilst being encouraged and applauded by presumably people of faith. These believers who profess to know the mind of their god fail to display humility with a demeanour that may give me an understanding and desire to know their lord, their Jesus? Atheists and believers base their debate on information of history’s accounts provided by fallible humans. Their contribution has some worth. We can listen, learn, contemplate but never venerate these speakers or give them credence of special insights. They are human, as fallible as those disciples and founders of the early church, as well as its current managers. This is yet another debate about the unprovable truth with the presenters who promote themselves and, of course , their status and income.
@WgWilliams
@WgWilliams 4 года назад
Thanks for posting this! Dr. Lennox is a national treasure for the Western world in our lifetime.
@anamneses28
@anamneses28 4 года назад
International treasure. 😊 He's amazing.
@sebastianschulz6531
@sebastianschulz6531 4 года назад
I do not think Lennox is contributing to science much.
@sebastianschulz6531
@sebastianschulz6531 4 года назад
Lennox is meaningless.
@anamneses28
@anamneses28 4 года назад
@@sebastianschulz6531 A lot of things could be (unintellectually) called meaningless. People, will never be one of them.
@sebastianschulz6531
@sebastianschulz6531 4 года назад
@@anamneses28 Their opinions surely..... The rules of science are simple. I forwarded them. I never really told anyone to drop their faith and become atheist. I just do not endorse any special pleading or interference of religious people into science. He is right, science does not say that gods do not exist. That is no proof for gods though, not for unicorns, jesus or other zombies. Creationists had years to prove their case, and they dropped the ball each time they are asked to bring evidence. I forwarded the evidence for evolution, I explained how science rules work, and who is obligated to prove what. And I pointed out that certain fallacies do not apply.....and that repeated strawmanning indicates a lack of integrity. That stating evolution is supposedly wrong while never having put in any effort to study the subject is tantamount to being a liar, so far one of the more serious sins in Christianity.
@d_rock_yt
@d_rock_yt 4 года назад
Thanks Eric and team, I so love Lennox. He has a knack for cutting through the guff and getting to the meat. The current intolerance of the mainstream belief-system that is taught in our schools, media, and entertainment systems is absurd and dangerous, and so harmful for eternity. We need more voices like John to finally topple this tower of falsehoods!
@jamesperkins4068
@jamesperkins4068 Год назад
Is this real? This guy Eric, representing christianity, immediately speaks of hate which is an element of the purges of the christian church. Hate ignores the true teachings of scripture. These two are feeding their own egos whilst being encouraged and applauded by presumably people of faith. These believers who profess to know the mind of their god fail to display humility with a demeanour that may give me an understanding and desire to know their lord, their Jesus? Atheists and believers base their debate on information of history’s accounts provided by fallible humans. Their contribution has some worth. We can listen, learn, contemplate but never venerate these speakers or give them credence of special insights. They are human, as fallible as those disciples and founders of the early church, as well as its current managers. This is yet another debate about the unprovable truth with the presenters who promote themselves and, of course , their status and income.
@Practical.Wisdom
@Practical.Wisdom 9 месяцев назад
What an incredible conversation! His recent book "Can Science Explain Everything?" is a masterpiece. While science can answer the ‘what’ questions, it does not deal with the ‘why’ questions and doesn’t even explain the things that we think it does. John is such a humble man of faith and a great friend! Thank you for sharing this talk! 🙏📖 #JohnLennox #CanScienceExplainEverything #InspiringConversation
@Campbellteaching
@Campbellteaching 4 года назад
World class thinking, thank you again Dr. Lennox.
@mick1gallagher
@mick1gallagher 3 года назад
John lennox will say what you want to hear how much money does he get for all these debates and lectures that's what religion is all about money money money money and more money
@smashexentertainment676
@smashexentertainment676 3 года назад
@@mick1gallagher For 28.04.2020 - We have next information about John Lennox earnings, net worth: $58,020,274 tho the information can be unreliable. The other source says: 2018 - $900 000. But he sells a ton of books. So he can't be poor.
@gavinhurlimann2910
@gavinhurlimann2910 3 года назад
@@mick1gallagher Thanks for proving Christianity has always held the intellectual high ground compared to atheism since Hildegard of Bingen.
@Mark-pe2sh
@Mark-pe2sh 3 года назад
@@mick1gallagher and you, apparently, will do the same for free.
@dopeydonaldtrump3744
@dopeydonaldtrump3744 3 года назад
@@smashexentertainment676 This is what it is all about and always has been, taking money from the gullible.
@Addiezmom
@Addiezmom 3 года назад
This video loaded after watching my Bible study... I am so happy it did. What a gift to listen to him. Wonderful interview!!
@charlesbronson5131
@charlesbronson5131 3 года назад
Im now John Lennox's biggest fan. South African 🇿🇦
@lowreztv
@lowreztv 2 года назад
This guy is an intellectual treasure
@jonathanezekiel6676
@jonathanezekiel6676 2 года назад
Absolutely
@gigglesscreen
@gigglesscreen 4 года назад
I see why Eric Metaxes loves talking to Dr. Lennox. His way of thinking truly makes you think. The questions asked and the statements said make me pause rewind and try to take it in. What a ride!🤔💃
@dopeydonaldtrump3744
@dopeydonaldtrump3744 4 года назад
It's funny how different people have different reactions. His way of thinking made me laugh out loud because it so ludicrous.
@gigglesscreen
@gigglesscreen 4 года назад
Dopey, like what? I enjoy hearing a different view....you got one?
@ozeasrossin
@ozeasrossin 4 года назад
@@dopeydonaldtrump3744 so, present your case. Show you know more than him
@dopeydonaldtrump3744
@dopeydonaldtrump3744 4 года назад
@@gigglesscreen Emm yea, I got a different view: reality
@dopeydonaldtrump3744
@dopeydonaldtrump3744 4 года назад
@@ozeasrossin Hahaha. What case do you want me to present ? Just look around you. It's called reality not fantasy.
@robinwilkins1968
@robinwilkins1968 3 года назад
This discussion was so amazing. I think I could listen to it dozens of times and absorb something new each time. Thank you, Eric & Dr. Lennox.
@jonathanezekiel6676
@jonathanezekiel6676 2 года назад
Yes it is amazing
@patbiggam8138
@patbiggam8138 2 года назад
I love the bantering between Eric and Dr Lennox. Hilarious. 😄
@jamesperkins4068
@jamesperkins4068 Год назад
Is this real? This guy Eric, representing christianity, immediately speaks of hate which is an element of the purges of the christian church. Hate ignores the true teachings of scripture. These two are feeding their own egos whilst being encouraged and applauded by presumably people of faith. These believers who profess to know the mind of their god fail to display humility with a demeanour that may give me an understanding and desire to know their lord, their Jesus? Atheists and believers base their debate on information of history’s accounts provided by fallible humans. Their contribution has some worth. We can listen, learn, contemplate but never venerate these speakers or give them credence of special insights. They are human, as fallible as those disciples and founders of the early church, as well as its current managers. This is yet another debate about the unprovable truth with the presenters who promote themselves and, of course , their status and income.
@susan1812
@susan1812 8 месяцев назад
You are a handsome son of Good sir!
@susan1812
@susan1812 8 месяцев назад
Son of God sir.Handsome son of God.Thank you!
@ivyananmawuko9984
@ivyananmawuko9984 3 года назад
Prof John Lennox - you have inspired me to learn the Bible and be fully equipped to defend the Truth. God be praised for your love and life and humility. You are a living example of our Master and Saviour Jesus Christ.
@gsbetthedoom
@gsbetthedoom 3 года назад
What is your best argument for God?
@benerickson1432
@benerickson1432 3 года назад
@@gsbetthedoom Fine Tuning
@marcocortes9968
@marcocortes9968 2 года назад
@@benerickson1432 ACM hunter clearly didn’t take his time to listen
@joeturner9219
@joeturner9219 9 месяцев назад
​@@gsbetthedoomKnowing He is real because we have a relationship with God
@cantstandanymorez
@cantstandanymorez 4 года назад
The wisdom of John Lennox is riveting. Such a tremendous loss to anyone who has not heard him speak. And his final words.... yes, yes, yes...
@dopeydonaldtrump3744
@dopeydonaldtrump3744 4 года назад
The man is a simpleton
@cantstandanymorez
@cantstandanymorez 4 года назад
@@dopeydonaldtrump3744 and you just proved your own inability to make any rational judgement, lol. yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ad-hominem
@302indian
@302indian 4 года назад
@Drew Berube Hmm..yes...reminds me the remark by Jesus, "Let the dead bury the dead "
@TheSpacePlaceYT
@TheSpacePlaceYT 10 месяцев назад
@@dopeydonaldtrump3744 Says a RU-vid commentor who knows nothing about science.
@dopeydonaldtrump3744
@dopeydonaldtrump3744 10 месяцев назад
@@TheSpacePlaceYT Says a youtube commentator who knows nothing about me. Oh dear. Must try harder.
@jasonwarren9279
@jasonwarren9279 3 года назад
As a former "angry atheist" who's converted to Christianity, I greatly appreciate his insights.
@jan.2780
@jan.2780 Год назад
love you ❤
@jamesperkins4068
@jamesperkins4068 Год назад
Is this real? This guy Eric, representing christianity, immediately speaks of hate which is an element of the purges of the christian church. Hate ignores the true teachings of scripture. These two are feeding their own egos whilst being encouraged and applauded by presumably people of faith. These believers who profess to know the mind of their god fail to display humility with a demeanour that may give me an understanding and desire to know their lord, their Jesus? Atheists and believers base their debate on information of history’s accounts provided by fallible humans. Their contribution has some worth. We can listen, learn, contemplate but never venerate these speakers or give them credence of special insights. They are human, as fallible as those disciples and founders of the early church, as well as its current managers. This is yet another debate about the unprovable truth with the presenters who promote themselves and, of course , their status and income.
@maldictous
@maldictous Год назад
So glad to hear! Welcome bro! ❤ May the peace and joy of Christ bless you greatly.
@maldictous
@maldictous Год назад
​@@jamesperkins4068 so you should equally doubt your own understanding according to your own belief. If you can doubt what Christians believe because fallible humans are untrustworthy, you probably shouldn't trust yourself either.
@jamesperkins4068
@jamesperkins4068 Год назад
Is this real? This guy Eric, representing christianity, immediately speaks of hate which is an element of the purges of the christian church. Hate ignores the true teachings of scripture. These two are feeding their own egos whilst being encouraged and applauded by presumably people of faith. These believers who profess to know the mind of their god fail to display humility with a demeanour that may give me an understanding and desire to know their lord, their Jesus? Atheists and believers base their debate on information of history’s accounts provided by fallible humans. Their contribution has some worth. We can listen, learn, contemplate but never venerate these speakers or give them credence of special insights. They are human, as fallible as those disciples and founders of the early church, as well as its current managers. This is yet another debate about the unprovable truth with the presenters who promote themselves and, of course , their status and income.
@jdvoecht
@jdvoecht 4 года назад
Amazing talk John Lennox is so profound and precise. 10/10⭐s
@mariamichael1669
@mariamichael1669 9 месяцев назад
In these very confused times we need more conversations like this. Thank you gentlemen a truly insightful conversation.
@elnavanrensburg9905
@elnavanrensburg9905 10 месяцев назад
Oh dear and glorious Prof Lennox thank you for sharing your wisdom with us! And thank you Eric for making it possible.
@zaram131
@zaram131 4 года назад
What a wonderful and powerful interview. His last comments showed the personal side of his faith and I thought they were very beautiful.
@sebastianschulz6531
@sebastianschulz6531 4 года назад
true, it was all about faith, not about science
@marcocortes9968
@marcocortes9968 2 года назад
@@sebastianschulz6531 clearly you didn’t see the video
@geomarkkjv1167
@geomarkkjv1167 3 года назад
That was astonishing. I love the last question he answers in closing. Wonderful interview Eric, humor, science and God. Dr. Lennox is outstanding! Thank you.
@Keet619
@Keet619 5 месяцев назад
THAT was an amazing discussion, thank you SO much John Lennox and Eric Metaxas!
@robschaller9061
@robschaller9061 Год назад
I LOVE listening to Dr Lennox speak everytime he does I learn so much.
@smsog2236
@smsog2236 2 года назад
To listen to this man speak each time is a special event
@CapybaraTut
@CapybaraTut 3 года назад
Both the argumentation line and way of thinking are incredibly reasonable and make perfect sense. Worth spreading indeed! Thanks for sharing!
@gordonf.woodbine7588
@gordonf.woodbine7588 4 года назад
I feel completely humbled and blessed by this presentation. It is so good. I am humbled because I am in the envious position of being able to accommodate in the mind God has given me, the enormity of John Lennox's conversations and the matters he raised. The blessings flow as a consequence of this and they encourages my faith noend. How can we hope to convey these words of wisdom to the many souls whose world views send them in other foolhardy directions even within our own modern socio-political environments?.
@sic7735
@sic7735 4 года назад
1:17:54 - Simply extraordinary! What a synthesis!
@JohnGeometresMaximos
@JohnGeometresMaximos 3 года назад
What an amazing human Dr. Lennox is. Full of compassion. Thank you Sir for your wonderful lectures and speeches that have inspired millions of people. May the Lord keep you safe and happy.
@olgaburgos7780
@olgaburgos7780 3 года назад
What a privileged I had to hear this intellectual. Speaker for the truth of God ‘s creation. May God continue to use him for many more years to enlighten the world. The
@84patking
@84patking 4 года назад
That last five minutes was moving. The part about watching the Andromeda Galaxy: "I know it's there, but it doesn't know I'm here. It shows God's magnificence, but it's not made in the image of God - you are!" What a profound and emotionally touching statement.
@charlottepatterson2864
@charlottepatterson2864 3 года назад
Thank you to all who were responsible for making this presentation and introducing me to Professor Lennox. What a blessing! I know science can’t answer the big questions, only God can; and He has. Praise the name of Jesus!
@trumpbellend6717
@trumpbellend6717 3 года назад
The concept of a god answers NO questions whatsoever, you may as well replace the word god with MAGIC it has exactly the same explanatory powers.
@charlottepatterson2864
@charlottepatterson2864 3 года назад
Psalm 14:1 “The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.”
@obiyanko2019
@obiyanko2019 3 года назад
I LOVE THIS GREAT AND HUMBLE MAN! Im touched to the core by his final statement....i will fall down flat and say THANK YOU!!!
@karinecarde1254
@karinecarde1254 3 года назад
That's what I'll say as well. What else is there to say in the face of Him who did everything? Alléluia!
@obiyanko2019
@obiyanko2019 3 года назад
@@karinecarde1254 All praise to The Almighty
@karinecarde1254
@karinecarde1254 3 года назад
@@obiyanko2019 amen!
@rose5566
@rose5566 Год назад
Love both of these gentlemen. God bless them🙏✨
@causticchameleon7861
@causticchameleon7861 3 года назад
Finally, I’ve found someone that thinks like I do. Thank you for uploading this soul saving video. I do not understand people who try to separate and believe they should be separate, God and science.
@screwball1010
@screwball1010 3 года назад
I haven't even listen to the talk yet, but that intro was so great I've already given this video a thumbs up.
@rodneyplewright7685
@rodneyplewright7685 4 года назад
Thank you, our Awesome Creator, for the gift of brilliant believers like John Lennox who can repel the attacks of atheism.
@alexnorth3393
@alexnorth3393 4 года назад
God is fictional.
@dopeydonaldtrump3744
@dopeydonaldtrump3744 4 года назад
@@alexnorth3393 It is not ! The fairies told me about it, it must be real !
@flapjackpanda
@flapjackpanda 3 года назад
i love the comments on here, coz i dont remember believing in a fictional God or fairies, or a sky daddy, or a bearded man in the sky. i believe in the God of christianity, so mind if i tag along with these unfunny jokes?
@chuckyoneill9289
@chuckyoneill9289 3 года назад
@Drew Berube These 2 scientists have proof?
@chuckyoneill9289
@chuckyoneill9289 3 года назад
@@flapjackpanda They're lost.
@reihino6866
@reihino6866 3 года назад
Simply amazing! As a Russian I hear him speak Russian and even though it’s with the heavy accent-it’s simply amazing and beautiful....
@A_Skeptic
@A_Skeptic 2 года назад
Do Russians believe in God?
@mechanicjobs
@mechanicjobs 3 года назад
I absolutely love listening to Mr Lennox. Thank you for educating me. 👍❤️🇨🇦
@jeanwanchen1
@jeanwanchen1 3 года назад
This is my first time listening to Dr.Lennox speak and when he first opened his mouth I'm thinking what a wonderful jolly man this is! Then I'm like omgosh he's brilliant
@Android-yj9wk
@Android-yj9wk 4 года назад
The old joke a scientist says Hey God I'm going to make a tree. Let me go get some dirt and seed. God replied go get your own dirt.
@sebastianschulz6531
@sebastianschulz6531 4 года назад
could have beeen by a nonreligious scientist....they have the habit of cracking heavy jokes on themsleves. It helps research work can be frustrating and hardly progressive. Humor helps to live with frustration.
@aikido7
@aikido7 4 года назад
Jesus preached the Kingdom of God in parables. But here on earth God’s work must truly be our own. God has to manifest himself through the same cosmic laws that everything--and everyone--on earth has to follow. For us to ally ourselves with Jesus in helping bring the Kingdom of God on earth, we must remember this: Without God, we cannot. Without us, God will not.
@assertive925
@assertive925 4 года назад
all Christian apologists including John Lennox needs to watch following clip : And, let's see what is their response? Better to watch till end : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wBio3y0Rrbc.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-hhjOnYbKJJw.html
@ThefrenchFranz
@ThefrenchFranz 4 года назад
@@assertive925 Hi, I'm no apologist, but was interested in your comment so I watched your Osho video. This guy makes statesments without any proof. He is locked in his own logic and (in that vid anyway) talks superficially of something he doesn't understand.
@assertive925
@assertive925 4 года назад
@@ThefrenchFranz you are entitled to have your opinion. Providing evidences to your viewpoint would have been better.
@beanlegume9965
@beanlegume9965 4 года назад
10:29 So I've concluded a long time ago that atheism is necessary for both Communism or a sort of Corporate Serfdom. The Oligarchs must have figure out this (fascinating) point from Dr. Lennox a long time ago, and instead of outright shutting down the philosophy courses, they have just coerced them into teaching the tenets of Communism or Corporatism necessary to generate obedient, willing slaves. I was also raised an atheist and was an atheist for 28 years, but am fortunately a Christian now.
@steveradanovich4962
@steveradanovich4962 2 года назад
Very Good conversation. Thanks for posting.
@SuikodenClive
@SuikodenClive 6 месяцев назад
That ending, the last question, had me in tears.
@anthonyholland4269
@anthonyholland4269 3 года назад
Hey I'm black and I've been watch Dr. John Lennox for years.
@obiyanko2019
@obiyanko2019 3 года назад
Me likewise. Just recently started watching and I humbled!!!
@chuckyoneill9289
@chuckyoneill9289 3 года назад
Just because your a black man or women does not mean your not intelligent, your watching Dr.Lennox so I know your well read!Thanks.
@davidjamespiano
@davidjamespiano 3 года назад
"The Belief in God is the motor that drove the race in Science"
@gsbetthedoom
@gsbetthedoom 3 года назад
does it still?
@mcmanustony
@mcmanustony 3 года назад
no it wasn't.
@karlschmied6218
@karlschmied6218 3 года назад
Today the belief in gods is the break that tries to hamper science. Lennox is trying to cover that up.
@benjamindaniel5229
@benjamindaniel5229 2 года назад
@@mcmanustony ĺlllp
@mcmanustony
@mcmanustony 2 года назад
@@benjamindaniel5229 huh?
@onceinawhile7
@onceinawhile7 3 года назад
Johns last remarks about what it will be like when he gets to heaven, my sentiments exactly ❤️ I find that the most kindred of spirits for me are old wise men
@carljones8334
@carljones8334 3 года назад
I don't know your age but you have wisdom that goes beyond years. Carl, just journeying through.
@markdemell3717
@markdemell3717 3 года назад
The meek shall inherit the earth ,I hope to stay here ,YAHUA did not make it for nothing!
@onceinawhile7
@onceinawhile7 3 года назад
@@markdemell3717 Heaven or new earth, doesn’t matter to me, it will be better than we can imagine
@johnabraham6634
@johnabraham6634 4 года назад
read Romans 1: 20 everyone can understand God of the Bible . I agree with Dr.Lennox
@wolfthequarrelsome504
@wolfthequarrelsome504 2 года назад
Why are there 30,000 protestant denominations who hold the same view?
@RaseRmax
@RaseRmax 4 года назад
This is The Best Interviewer I saw in my whole life :D The man is so humorous (maybe sometimes too much ^^') and logical, asking good questions and bringing super spirit.
@jamaicanwarrenbuffett760
@jamaicanwarrenbuffett760 3 года назад
I agree! I had to write down the "my current wife" joke it is beyond hilarious! 😂
@johnkitchen4699
@johnkitchen4699 2 года назад
Sorry, I must be watching the wrong video. I watched the one where the objectionable Eric Metaxas carried out the interview.
@jamesperkins4068
@jamesperkins4068 Год назад
Is this real? This guy Eric, representing christianity, immediately speaks of hate which is an element of the purges of the christian church. Hate ignores the true teachings of scripture. These two are feeding their own egos whilst being encouraged and applauded by presumably people of faith. These believers who profess to know the mind of their god fail to display humility with a demeanour that may give me an understanding and desire to know their lord, their Jesus? Atheists and believers base their debate on information of history’s accounts provided by fallible humans. Their contribution has some worth. We can listen, learn, contemplate but never venerate these speakers or give them credence of special insights. They are human, as fallible as those disciples and founders of the early church, as well as its current managers. This is yet another debate about the unprovable truth with the presenters who promote themselves and, of course , their status and income.
@RaseRmax
@RaseRmax Год назад
@@jamesperkins4068 u sound humble, gentle, kind and meek budd.
@hawhee
@hawhee 3 года назад
In this world of chaos, I enjoy listening to John Lennox, because he points us to the God of creation.in a way that is refreshing and convincing.
@davidjamespiano
@davidjamespiano 3 года назад
Love the HOST!! Eric Metaxas!!
@ataipotv9160
@ataipotv9160 3 года назад
May God keep longer life to you sir John....
@carljones8334
@carljones8334 3 года назад
What, and deny heaven? For him to depart is far better. Carl, just journeying through.
@Trumblocity
@Trumblocity 4 года назад
Brilliant. There is hope in the world to restore belief in God the Creator. I am grateful for finding this channel.
@compassandradio6261
@compassandradio6261 2 года назад
This humble man is utterly awe inspiring. Thank you Dr. Lennox.
@sarahmwanthi8840
@sarahmwanthi8840 4 года назад
We sure do need Christian thinkers like Lennox
@dutch4066
@dutch4066 3 года назад
Praise God for John Lennox!!!!
@BasedAquinas
@BasedAquinas 3 года назад
Eric Metaxas has a Tony Starkish captivating humor.
@gunawansiahaan6435
@gunawansiahaan6435 2 года назад
Haha
@aaronwalcott513
@aaronwalcott513 3 года назад
Brilliant; knowledgeable; wise...but most of all, humble and believing.
@TheBackyardProfessor
@TheBackyardProfessor Год назад
what a total delight this was.
@unripetheberrby6283
@unripetheberrby6283 3 года назад
1:15:48 THAT'S IT! THAT IS WHERE IT ALL STARTED! 1:16:55 All of the context(whole conversation) together is great.
@pattibarnes9770
@pattibarnes9770 3 года назад
I love to hear John Lennox talk about creation Christianity he is great indeed he is a gem 💎
@amandacarmel6084
@amandacarmel6084 2 года назад
Oh I just love John Lennox!! I could listen to him speak for days on end. He’s my favorite debater of all time!! He’s so civilized and knowledgeable. He makes everything he talks about sound intelligent. If this great man believes in God I think that’s sufficient evidence that He might be real.
@jonathanezekiel6676
@jonathanezekiel6676 2 года назад
I agree with you
@vanessadowney3593
@vanessadowney3593 9 месяцев назад
Best discussion on apologetics I've listened to in a long while.
@d3g3n3r4t3
@d3g3n3r4t3 4 года назад
13:08 he looked annoyed lol, that look like, kid, dont interrupt adults when they are speaking...rofls!
@roteerde-bestebibelkomenta5362
@roteerde-bestebibelkomenta5362 3 года назад
Thank you for simple explanations!
@VirgoBirrane
@VirgoBirrane 4 года назад
Love John Lennox. God bless him.
@donnat639
@donnat639 4 года назад
Profound! I rate this interview at top of scale #1!!! I ❤️ Prof. Dr. (Sir :-!) Lennox, hah!! & Im a fan of ‘The Eric Metaxas Show’. This is what I call Real Education of which I’ve invested time, $, effort in an AA & BS. My RU-vid EDU is worth far more to me than investing in 💎, gold, precious stone. Thank God for men like this. Keep it up Eric. All ears: Words, beautiful Words! Beautiful Word of God & men of Faith in Him!!! 🙏
@jakeone8021
@jakeone8021 3 года назад
Going from 50 cent to John Lennox daily 🥳🥳
@JonathanPoland
@JonathanPoland 3 года назад
Lennox's computer question is one I will be using with all my smart atheist friends.
@ThiloTeschendorfOfficial
@ThiloTeschendorfOfficial 4 года назад
Finally another SITC and this time with the truly great Dr. John Lennox.
@africanhistory
@africanhistory Год назад
‘why does a kettle boil?’, the answer from a scientific perspective would link to the chemical properties of water and its response to heat. Though this does not fully answer the question, as the reason the kettle is boiling is because the kettle was turned on because someone wants a cup of tea. - John Lennox
@barbaragarriott2364
@barbaragarriott2364 2 года назад
Praise God for using you for His glory
@nanomonkey3143
@nanomonkey3143 4 года назад
John -- well done. Thank you!
@DarksideJohnny
@DarksideJohnny 3 года назад
"Anybody who has been seriously engaged is scientific work of any kind realizes that over the entrance to the gates of the temple of science are written the words: 'Ye must have faith. ' It is a quality which the scientist cannot dispense with." ~ Max Planck
@boglerun8444
@boglerun8444 3 года назад
Planck also said.... 'the faith in miracles must yield, step by step, before the steady and firm advance of the facts of science, and its total defeat is undoubtedly a matter of time.'
@kiwisaram9373
@kiwisaram9373 3 года назад
@@boglerun8444 Science will never be a finished book. Any development over time reveals more and deeper difficulties ALBERT
@carljones8334
@carljones8334 3 года назад
John, just after mentioning that all schools are faith schools asks if he should tell the audience a little story about that, and I found myself at home, putting my hand up, saying, yes please! I believe that the reason why Jesus will wipe away every tear, is not because some of our family or friends won't be there with Him, but the tears will be because we never realised what we could and should have invested in heaven, we will come to a realisation of what has been missed for all eternity, yes, missed for all eternity. Like John, after I rise to my feet when I have finished worshipping Jesus, I will say, "Thank you." Words which sound so hollow, but which cannot convey anything greater. Carl, just journeying through.
@ashleyvandermerwe3397
@ashleyvandermerwe3397 3 года назад
John man I love you from a place in my heart I cannot explain.
@tommore3263
@tommore3263 4 года назад
What a wonderful man.
@DorianLust
@DorianLust 4 года назад
Thanks. That's powerful.
@GenesisOrigo
@GenesisOrigo 3 года назад
As Christians, we believed the ultimate Gospel which is the Resurrection of Christ, an important aspect of how death is overcome by Life. And actually many who dont believe in Creator God i find that they still amazed me when they believe in a “non life become life” which in essence is the “resurrection” of a dead thing into a living thing... and i find it harder to believe that, requires more faith that to believe in Jesus i would say. Thank you Prof John Lennox. Jus love ur sharing so much. Praise God
@johnkoenig326
@johnkoenig326 3 года назад
Your puzzled by abiogenesis. A chimp is puzzled by quantum mechanics.
@boglerun8444
@boglerun8444 3 года назад
So, logic would suggest that when a scientist replicates abiogenesis in the lab you will throw away your religious beliefs...is that correct?
@cavendish009
@cavendish009 Год назад
NOT JUST IN AMERICA - we love John Lennox in Britain too !!!
@colloredbrothers
@colloredbrothers 4 года назад
What a blessing to hear this man speak! My God! Iv never heard these arguments so clearly stated. I've always felt in my bones that atheism is laughable, and Iv tried to make my own analogies when going into discussion with others but I could never lay it out so clearly. I'm going to buy his books asap.
@jamesperkins4068
@jamesperkins4068 Год назад
Is this real? This guy Eric, representing christianity, immediately speaks of hate which is an element of the purges of the christian church. Hate ignores the true teachings of scripture. These two are feeding their own egos whilst being encouraged and applauded by presumably people of faith. These believers who profess to know the mind of their god fail to display humility with a demeanour that may give me an understanding and desire to know their lord, their Jesus? Atheists and believers base their debate on information of history’s accounts provided by fallible humans. Their contribution has some worth. We can listen, learn, contemplate but never venerate these speakers or give them credence of special insights. They are human, as fallible as those disciples and founders of the early church, as well as its current managers. This is yet another debate about the unprovable truth with the presenters who promote themselves and, of course , their status and income.
@MikeAllisonCoaching
@MikeAllisonCoaching 4 года назад
Dawkins and Hitchens efforts at debating John Lennox were childlike.
@MikeAllisonCoaching
@MikeAllisonCoaching 4 года назад
@robert proctor Thanks.
@c.g.ryderii2405
@c.g.ryderii2405 4 года назад
John 3:19-20 the real reason people don't believe in God. They will have to face their sin. Much love brothers and sisters Jesus Christ is King
@gigglesscreen
@gigglesscreen 4 года назад
Dawkins is okay but Hitchens was really good. Now I do believe in Jesus but when Hitchens would bring up others ways of thinking helped to really make me think. Really sharpen my sword and I am thankful that he strengthened my debting skills on why I believe. Romans 8:28 And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose.
@Noodlehorn
@Noodlehorn 4 года назад
They always were/are. It's such a shame that a generation of kids have been fooled by 'arguments' that you are supposed to learn about when you're a child. Although, you can't really blame them because they were indoctrinated from their school days onward's 33:00 & 59:00. If you watch George Galloway debating Hitchens, Galloway is much more persuasive, so Hitchens gets annoyed with the audience! How dare they not bow down to one of the new priest's...!
@josh_d_w____
@josh_d_w____ 4 года назад
Mike Allison Coaching absolutely exposes the absurdity of the weak atheism arguments held on to by the most idealized “brains” in the world of higher learning!
@pattibarnes9770
@pattibarnes9770 3 года назад
Bravo 👏 👏👏👏 excellent discussion Dr Lennox
@johnkoenig326
@johnkoenig326 3 года назад
💩💩💩💩
@TT-hg8eo
@TT-hg8eo 3 года назад
What a great interview 👍
@abrahamkandathil-6036
@abrahamkandathil-6036 2 года назад
Absolutely Brilliant as always! 🙏🙏
@moose9906
@moose9906 4 года назад
Of course the irony is that while atheists accuse theists of using a "god of the gaps", it is actually them that use a "science of the gaps". "We can't explain it but the answer is in science."
@smashexentertainment676
@smashexentertainment676 3 года назад
Because the real answer is in science, duh! :D
@psyenergy1935
@psyenergy1935 3 года назад
Kant proves beyond a shadow.of a doubt we will never solve the mysteries of universe, creation, existence. With pure reason and logic.
@LawrenceKennard
@LawrenceKennard 3 года назад
Or the science fiction of the gaps for atheists
@BradWatsonMiami
@BradWatsonMiami 3 года назад
@@LawrenceKennard Have you read 7seals.blogspot.com ? Only the returned Christ & Albert Einstein reincarnated could produce that. 🔶 The Conglomerate of Universes - Universe Creation Theory 🔶 combining GOD/Nature, ancient religions, astronomy, cosmology, fined-tuned laws of physics/general relativity/quantum mechanics, chaos theory/fractals, laws of biology & chemistry, linguistics/code-breaking, programming the Universe/GOD=7_4 or FOD=6_4 theory, mysticism, and philosophy/ anthropic principle "Energy can’t be created or destroyed, only transformed/transferred in an isolated system." General relativity's black holes, white holes, Big Bang and wormholes. ‘The BIG Bang-Bit Bang’ inflation/expansion of energy₇₄ and information into the void 13.8 billion years ago was a supermassive white hole spawned by a supermassive black hole at the heart of a galaxy in our ‘parent₇₄ universe’. This duality combines general relativity’s singularities of infinite density breaking through spacetime in ‘Cosmic Egg hatchings’ of all created universes within ‘The Conglomerate’: multiverse with no random quantum fluctuation bubble universes, no parallel universes or parallel worlds, and no universes with different physical laws. Our Universe is 1-in-2 trillion ‘self-similar offspring’ each with the same inherited ‘DNA’. “In the beginning”, the Planck density of the core of a SBH is a birth canal. ‘Quantum bounce SBH-SWH seed transitions’ are ‘quantum tunneling umbilical wormholes’ with energy-matter and data transformed/ transferred, albeit scrambled and encoded. The ubiquitous cause-and-effect ‘circle of life cycle’: birth-life-death-transformation-rebirth explains infinite space and eternity - a necessity. Reproduction is GOD/Nature’s plan for greatly spreading life from cells to universes. GOD=7_4 or FOD=6_4 is the #1 program₇₄/law/initial₇₄ condition (GOD704.fandom.com ). Why does this Universe exist? It’s our playground (god + run = ground₆₄). - This is Seal #1a of the 7seals.blogspot.com . Only the returned Christ & Einstein reincarnated could produce this - it's triggered The Apocalypse/ Revelation which is NOT the 'end of the world'. COVID-19 is part of Seal #4: S=19 (18.6) Theory.
@robertpreisser3547
@robertpreisser3547 3 года назад
@@BradWatsonMiami The “Jesus Family Tomb” is not necessarily (or even really likely to be) the tomb of Jesus of Nazareth. www.livescience.com/50434-jesus-family-tomb-geology.html This is not established as having been the same person. Note that this would not explain any of the apostles’ claims, how Jesus survived the crucifixion, why Paul converted, why the Jews claimed the disciples stole the body (instead of producing it), etc. It is at this point not at all sufficient proof that Jesus did not rise from the dead.
@djrap1997
@djrap1997 3 года назад
Hello, I want to ask something, do you have any information about if Socrates was still alive when they bring the idea for the spherical shape of the earth? Beacause I am sure he would question this statement a lot.
@renaarmstrong2838
@renaarmstrong2838 3 года назад
That was ... WONDERFUL!!!!! I searched for words but all I could use to describe having heard this brilliant conversation is wonderful. I’m sitting here well after midnight. Tomorrow I plan on getting this out to every single person I can. I can not imagine anyone walking away from this conversation an unbeliever. But I’m a simple thinker. However, I’d definitely love to challenge every unbeliever I know to hear this! I’m Not sure I can sleep after that. Too excited to share this!!!!
@jamesperkins4068
@jamesperkins4068 Год назад
Is this real? This guy Eric, representing christianity, immediately speaks of hate which is an element of the purges of the christian church. Hate ignores the true teachings of scripture. These two are feeding their own egos whilst being encouraged and applauded by presumably people of faith. These believers who profess to know the mind of their god fail to display humility with a demeanour that may give me an understanding and desire to know their lord, their Jesus? Atheists and believers base their debate on information of history’s accounts provided by fallible humans. Their contribution has some worth. We can listen, learn, contemplate but never venerate these speakers or give them credence of special insights. They are human, as fallible as those disciples and founders of the early church, as well as its current managers. This is yet another debate about the unprovable truth with the presenters who promote themselves and, of course , their status and income.
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