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@@justas423 Not only make his frames high, but make it so his moves can be canceled. For example in his first fight with Josuke, Josuke managed to prevent The hand swiping him away by having Crazy Diamond grab his wrist. In terms of a fighting game this could be a grab, or perhaps a heavy hit. Basically if you make hims low, and half his kit cancelable it can work.
Since he's stupid, make the moves input not work most of the time. By making him frustrating you can balance him out of his huge damage and potential. Also give him low health, just like Akuma in SF.
Imagine this: Tournament finals, DIO vs Diavolo, its a tense game, and DIO is setting up a road roller combo, but just before he gets [ZA WARUDO] off, Diavolo activates Epitaph, but it goes unnoticed The combo lands in full and the crowd cheer as Diavolo is crushed by the road roller. But whats this? The match isn't over? And all of a sudden, what seemed like an easy win is not completely offset, as the combo never happened. The hype potential would almost unlimited.
Honestly i think the super is situational bc once diavolo use the super, his opponent will disengage,camp and block for 5 second.the super is not unnoticeable bc u can see diavolo magically used his 5 bar.Maybe it can be very good?but idk
@@jasonho6865 I have an idea to fix this, here's an example: let's say you use it but the bar won't show that you used the attack it will only after normally when the attack finishes
Imagine you fighting Diavolo: you perform an epic combo which kills him. "KO" flashes on the screen with celebretory music. Then suddenly, the screen flashes red and the King Crimson sound effect plays. You hear Diavolo scream "King Crimson!" as the game resets to 5 seconds ago. Diavolo then sets up the perfect combo, and it ends up in you losing. I don't want that I NEED that
Thats not what I meant. He explained it in the video. Once the ability is activated, the next 5 seconds goes as normal. But it is revaled that Diavolo was looking into the future and it would go back 5 seconds. So him dying would be him looking into the future, it didnt actually happen.
No one can escape the fate that was chosen for them. All that remains is the end, where you will all perish. Eternal greatness exists only within myself. Sing a song of sorrow in a world where time has vanished.
@@SlavicDedede zetsubou ga temaneku sekai ni tachimukau Don't care jihi nado iranai sa karada horobiru toki inori mo kiehateru? HELL NO! Hajimari no GOLDEN WIND!
@@FangEnergix king crimson requiem would probably give Diavolo the ability to manipulate and rewrite his past since that's a big part of his character.
I wanna hear his ideas about some minor villains too, like ghiaccio, guard westwood, or anubis. Hell maybe even cioccolata, he could work as a pair with secco just like hol horse and j geil. I find these videos really interesting.
@@MrOwl-lw3xc obviously that would be too broken if it was like a passive or something,so it could be like a special ability and just make cioccolata's main moveset standard brawling,taking off your limbs and his secondary moveset being secco,but he stays underground and appears only for a few attacks,like spitting mud or dragging the enemy below.
Green Day wasn't really seen as a stand proper outside of the times Cioccolatta was showing off to the viewer, so perhaps Secco could be his "stand". In that way, jumping or falling would be hazardous to both the player and enemy.
There is cool fan made games such as "7th stand user" and heavily JoJo inspired 2d shooter ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-oGppBxKkyNo.html There is also great ideas how to represent Stand powers
i really hope they port it to consoles and pc and most important make a good game when it comes out... it have very much potential les hope it doesnt end like those simplistic musou japanese games if you know what i mean
Random Person: *playing fortnite* Bandai Namco: *outside their window* lets do that, but with jojo characters Everybody who wanted new heritage of the future: *suprised pickachu face*
He could be a trap character pretty much revolving around Piranha Plant’s Side Special in Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. His virus clouds would rapidly deal chip damage to anybody inside (Including Fugo himself).
Imagine Moody Blues copying Kira's Bites the Dust, so both you and Kira have no stand and the match results in a draw if neither of you beat the other within that timeframe, that'd be such an interesting interaction and I really want a jojo fighting game to be able to do that type of shit.
@@pancakecommanderandbowser2279 HELL YEAH, WE'RE TWO, WE JUST NEED MORE TROOPS. IT WILL BR MORE EPIC THAN THE AEREA 51 RAID. ayeo, btw, I'm doing a post about my ideal jojo game on Reddit. U can check it out if u want. My username is u/Gui_Franco I think. If not tell me and I'll tell u the correct one
@@ventuswill2847 agreed. Sure it'd be hype, but it wouldn't be used for blowing up the opponent, just as a free reset. That means you'd just use it when you're losing, basically nullifying the opponents hard work. Maybe making it so you need 4-5 seconds before you can pull back killer queen?
@@li_ka2 it is a counter after all so as kong as the player keeps track of kira's meter it'll be more manageable.plus it can only be activated once per round and cant be used against zoners
@@nguyenthe7968 yeah, that sounds way more reasonable. I think. I honestly have no real clue about fighting games, so I don't really know if you're right.
You described King Crimson's ability better than any JoJo youtuber has in their dedicated videos to King Crimson. Also make Fugo faithful to the manga/anime and he just insta kills his opponents
Not insta-kill. Purple Haze just goes bananas, dashing around the stage on his own, and if either Fugo or his opponent get too close, they start losing life AND meter. The more often they come into contact with PH, the faster the drain. After a short while, there's a large animation played over the whole stage where it appears the sun comes out, and the virus is stopped. In addition, all of Fugo's moves can damage him if he is too close, and maybe if there's a 'Stand Power' gauge, when his runs out there's a small chance that PH runs rampant on own.
@@ChargeQM No, Fugo can still control Purple Haze, the reason he doesn't control him in Man in the Mirror is that he can't see him. In Purple Haze Feedback (which isn't canon) Fugo does control his stand, despite it being fucking crazy. This information is found on the wiki, and the fact that Fugo controls his stand near the end of Man in the MIrror (when he can finally see his stand/ is out of the mirror world).
Technically you can use it without time stop, but practically you would certainly need a time stop or any long ass stun to actually pull off the road roller super
What you're talking about is just playing flowchart characters??? Just get Tekken and play either Jin or Nina, those characters work well as flowchart characters
Bro I just wanna play as Doppio. I think it would just be cool to have him be almost like a diet version of Diavolo but still viable, in the way that Shadow DIO was.
And based on the Metallica fight, some of the moves could be throwing a scissor and knives and shoving razors up the enemies' ass. And don't forget his signature B O I.
i thought it would just be a neat reskin of diavolo. so when you pull out king crimson, he get larger in size and when you use his super, he starts removing his shirt to become diavolo.
Your King Crimson + Epitaph idea was freaking genius! I imagine a tense JoJo tournament, and one guy finally lands the killing blow on Diavolo. He jumps up and the crowd goes wild, BUT THEN the screen warps, revealing it to be erased time and then the Diavolo player makes an incredible comeback!
jojo is really the perfect fit for a fighting game. i hope it gets the dbfz treatment but they let loose and just make it broken also i better get a free command grab if i spent 5 bars..
If I were to pick a La Squadra rep, I'd probably go with Prosciutto and Pesci as a similar kind of deal to Hol Horse mixed with aspects of Alessi. Pesci would be the main fighter, with a weapon stand and most of his moves focused on zoning with Beach Boy. Then, certian specials could include Prosciutto, which could turn opponents old in a similar manner to Alessi turning his opponents into kids.
Have Formaggio be a very weak character physically (does almost no damage at all and takes extra damage from most attacks), but every time he hits the opponent, they get smaller. The smaller the opponent is, the less damage they will do and the more damage they will take, and if they get too small, they become so weak that even Formaggio will be able to kick their ass. The player has to act quick and avoid getting hit too much, so they can beat Formaggio before getting way too small.
I really like the way you put it. "Interactivity". The whole time, I kept thinking of Alessi's super when he turn the opponent into a kid and you have to attack them yourself, but that gives your opponent the chance to counter attack or avoid. In the more modern JoJo games, that would have just been a cutscene. Making a game like this with more unusual abilities that JoJo is known for would make every character unique and fun to play. Kira is especially interesting, making it a direct reference to a scene in the source material. This makes me think that this game would be heavily based on match ups as opposed to which character has better options. Who directly hard counters who? Of course, major balancing would need to be arranged.
Okuyasu could have a super that would permanently erase the space on the stage, so since he would probably be a Grappler this would give him a huge advantage against more mobile opponents like Johnny
You know Tager from BlazBlue? You could make him have gimmicky Oki options after combos with The Hand just like Gadget finger, make him end a combo in a knockdown and while the opponent is getting up, erase the space between you and them while jumping to have Okuyasu cross them up the moment they wake up, or you can stay in the same side, or even command grab. This can work as a reset in the air too, a special move should be erase space up and forward Okuyasu and then make him grab whatever is above him, imagine the resets you could make if you pretend you drop you juggle combo, just to make the opponents tech up in the air to fall into the unlockable anti air grab.
Another more straight forward super would be an instant K.O. from The Hand. It would be slow and obvious, and cost all your meter, but if there was some kind of guard break mechanic that makes an opponent immobile it could have some great setups.
I feel like Okuyasu should have really strong and useful tools but sluggish neutrals and just design it in a way that a casual player who doesn't know anything about mix-ups or footsies would actually fight exactly like how Okuyasu fights in the show, but a high-level player would show you how Okuyasu would fight if he was actually smart
He can erase projectile and bring opponent closer which is very good tool. My suggestion to his hand weakness is can only be use contacted timeframe to erase projectile. For the projectile that is not contact his hand can accelerate if not use carefully(similar how he got hit by flower pot) Basically opponent can utilize Okuyasu's hand to bait out swipe and set up accelerate projectiles to hit him to punish and setup counter attack. This way high level player should be aware when to use his hand to erace.
@@snowboundwhale6860 Yo, that would be great. Not only it's a direct reference to the source material, but it's also a way of not making his ability too obvious for the opponent.
@@lucdtinc.7350 Also a nice solution. Only problem is that some players don't like vibration in general. But when it comes to stealth, vibrating the controller would make nearly impossible for the second player to notice time skip.
Josuke could be an extremely interesting character, starting certain combos with healing the opponent but then switching it up and dealing super high damage. Or his imperfect restoration, where you'd heal up an opponent to a certain extent, but they'd have reduced max health for the rest of the match. Rohan could be interesting too. Let's say he's got a basic setup command grab with Heavens Door opening the opponent's face and stuns them whilst you're doing it. Then he has a bunch of enders that change what effects happen (Say, the opponent goes flying, or they debuff to their damage or, for huge damage, he tears a page out of their face) With Koichi, some obvious effects he could generate with Echos: Act 3 would include: Lower Jumps, Disabling Jump entirely (Temporarily), knocking someone to the floor on the spot, obviously changing their get-up time, as well as disabling projectiles on use (Examples, DIO's knives, Stray Cat's Bubbles, Hol Horse's Bullets, just to name a few (Things like SPSE wouldn't be affected), giving him incredible potential in denial while still giving him offensive options. Just a few ideas that come to mind, at least.
IDEA!!! You know blue health? All vampires and pillar man should be able to SLOWLY recover blue health unless they suffer a Hamon based attack, in which case there is no blue health
@@totallynotdio1311 The biggest flaws of the game are in my opinion : 1. more characters, We have atleast 14 different Dio`s (plus the joke characters) but not the main villain from part 7, the jobro from part 7 and not any character from Part 8. 2. A way to turn off joke characters, Picture this : you want to play singleplayer vs random but the bot is a joke character and you need to go back to the title screen just to only get another joke character. Other than that its pretty good
Mugen is bad, it's graphics are bad, it doesn't have a design theme like in asb or hftf, the sounds effects and dubs are really annoying, and the game itself doesn't even have good mechanics, they essentially just mixed hftf with asb, some characters can do the flash cancel from asb which is completely unnecessary, and they weren't that creative with the characters abillities
Taken from the article: "Arc 5, Vento Aureo's main antagonist, Diavolo can literally erase an hour of time" Okay what People should at least fact check
16:30 actually, kira's bite the dust has some pretty wacky properties, if used against kars, giorno, or any character with a transformation, it will put them back to their default state.
@@twoocean8012 well, Echoes had already unlocked act 3 days before Bites the dust, but if Koichi had unlocked it during the hour of Bites the dust, it would have reverted to act 2
This guy keeps saying Diavolo can't interact with the opponent in stopped time... Except he absolutely does that in the anime and manga, so IDK what dude is on about
@@THEGREATMAX He actually doesn't though. If you have any examples then share them. King Crimson's ability is definitely one of the more confusing ones.
@@THEGREATMAX That isn't during the skipped time. When he teleports behind Polnareff is the time skip, then he talks in real time and Polnareff responds. He then teleports again and deals the final blow . I'm not saying his ability is teleporting, but he is skipping that time and it makes it look that way to Polnareff, and this is how it is presented to the viewer.
6:29 "Arc 5, Vento Aureo's antagonist Diavolo can literally erase an hour of time with his stand King Crimson." Uh. I mean, cumulatively, he has probably erased a grand total of a few hours of time, but I know that's not what they mean.
@@mihaiioc.3809 Except that game has major bug problems and overall as a game doesn't work very well. There's a difference between wanting an offical product with polish and settling for the bare minimum.
only problem is, the effects of the opponent are speed up aswell, so fugo's virus spreads even faster and kills him in a instant (a reference to how he dies).
The erased time idea for Diavolo is really great. I think there could be a lot of design potential for 50/50s out of the erased time, and make opponents scared to jump if he is sitting on full meter
honestly i really just want more jonathan. i find it really neat when he meets his decendants and how his gentlemanlike demeanor clashes with characters like young joseph.
in the jojo version of mugen made by the comunity stroheim can suicide dealing 50% of the enemy hp damage , what this is for : local 2P vs 2C to sacrifice yourself at low hp so you can deal damage to both enemies but you die anyway while your teammate is still alive : making a 1v1 draw when you lose .
Rohan with Heaven's door. Hear me out. Think Arakune, where some attacks fill a debuff meter. However, when the debuff meter is full, he can do an attack/super as a command grab or combo ender and give the opponent different debuffs/enders. The debuff bar comes in 3 parts, and some debuffs/enders might cost more than others. Examples: "I will fly backwards at 60mph" (corner carry) (1 part) "I forget how to use my stand" (2 parts) "I will stand still" (2 parts) "I am going to hell" (instant kill, max super bars and debuff gauge required)
I AGREE A simpler implementation would be (spur of the moment) Command grab; button decides timing (2/4/6 second from now...) And you input whatever you want, Custom Combo style.... FOR YOUR OPPONENT A literal You: Jump OPPONENTS: How high?
the "I am going to hell" one reminds me of Android 16's Level 3 in FighterZ, it would be cool if Rohan does it once so that would make a 3v3 fighting game.
Cool idea tbh I was just thinking about Rohan's Moveset in his JUS Mugen char, although he does have some of those same movesets you mentioned however his one attack which I really liked was to use 3 full bars to make your opponent not attack for around 5-10 secs (including not stopping them from doing their ultimate)
Whenever I imagine Diavolo's King Crimson working as a game mechanic, it's usually something along the lines of skipping ahead a couple seconds in a match instantaneously and having the opponent moved according to what their last input was as if that was all they were doing during the time frame skipped.
You’re gonna Eat my chocolate idk diavolo was pretty aggressive, players would probably use time skip to close distance or extend combos and pressure to crazily ridiculous amounts of time
Seeing as they seem really dedicated to splitting these two, I feel like Kira and Kosaku should have more differences beside SHA vs stray cat and BtD. Kira should be okizeme focused character with traps like the coin that’s main focus is to knock the opponent down, as Kira was sneaky guy who avoided direct confrontations and tries to finish fights as quickly as possible. Kosaku on the other hand should be a more aggressive zoner with his fighting style focused on smart usage of his air bombs, as this was when he was more direct and involved in fights. With these changes, it’d make Kira and Kosaku feel like more distinct from one another.
You could give the original Kira a command grab that has slow startup but does good damage and looks like what Kira did to Koichi, just in case the enemy gets too comfortable blocking
They should use the anime sfx for the full meter supers. Like Za Handos bass fart, Za Warudo's bass fart, Star Platinums bass fart and King Crimsons bass fart.
They did that for EOH. ASB came out before Part 3 was animated, and Dio/Jotaro's time stop sounds were these echoing "ding" sounds. Then, when EOH came out, they used the proper BVWWWOOOWWVVWBVWBWVB sound for time stop. They also fucked over Jotaro's default colors to the ugly black jacket instead of blue, just to match the anime.
@@bang.marcel0 Funnily enough, his Time-Erase for Diavolo was basically forcing your opponents into tandem as a disadvantage. (only instead of just their stand, its their entire character)
-Soft&Wet: Uses bubbles as a fireball, can Plunder projectiles to reactivate later, can Plunder friction from the ground. Mostly a trap-based character. One of his moves involves the shovel. Go Beyond is his ultimate Super. Appropriately, it's one of the only ways to outright beat Stand ON Toru's defenses, the others being Time Stop, traps, Made in Heaven, and Tusk ACT 4 -Paisley Park: A Weapon Stand character where Stand ON doesn't directly affect Yasuho's moves. Rather, it offers items Yasuho can use and guidance pop-ups that give her new ways to link her moves. -Speed King: Each hit dealt with Speed King adds to the opponent's Heat. While Stand ON, opponents will gradually take damage based on their Heat. However, if Jobin is in Stand OFF, then the opponent's Heat will quickly decrease, so Jobin is in a precarious position. He relies on Heat to build up damage, but staying in Stand ON mode so much is incredibly risky. You have to deal with these clashing factors, just like how Jobin needs to deal with both the Higashikatas and the Rokakaka Organization in order to pursue his goals. -Vitamin C: You know Alessi's gimmick? Yeah, that. -Wonder of U: While Wonder of U is in Stand ON mode, Toru is completely unable to attack, he can only counter. His counters are various and strong, able to affect opponents the instant they inout an attack, but Wonder of U requires that Toru make use of his Stand OFF moveset to get any value out of them. Furthermore, if you're Stand ON for too much of the match, when time runs out, a Go Beyond bubble appears and kills you. Because fuck camping. Stand OFF mode relies on middling basic attacks and some attacks from Do Do Do Do De Da Da Da. You have to set up a scenario where you can successfully punish with Wonder of U without overrelying on it and getting fucked over by fate. Some of these are a little half-baked, but I think you get the picture.
Some of these ideas remind me of some of the proposed DLC characters for Skullgirls that didn't make it. There was a character who could time travel by having the future version of himself show up to do an attack, but for it to convert to real damage he has to actually travel back in time within a certain period of time. Another character could record character actions and was kind of Save States the character, and it was pretty cool. There's a lot of room to be creative with fighting games, I would love to have more FGs with creative characters.
They still have a sound library of pretty much any line you could think of for all the characters, plus a shit ton of cut voice content from the last two games
To be honest I prefer some of the game's voice actors to the anime. My main point being Vento Aureo characters, the voices for Narancia, Bruno, Mista, and Giorno just all sound better in ASB and EOH.
How about a Jojo game which you play as Jotaro and have 2 choices, Do “research” on dolphins or be a good father and visit your daughter every so often
@Top Hat Walrus You don’t need to worry about that since if you beat the game you can play as Jotaro’s wife where you can visit your daughter in jail or sign the divorce papers
Sounds like a great JRPG idea. Edit: seriously, if I have great writing skills, I would have turn this into a real thing right now using RPGmaker or so help me
Make it a 3 meter super for Giorno. He gets inside Mr. President and Coco Jumbo tries to get to the other of the stage without getting hit, if he makes it to the other side it becomes a time out with him leaving the stage
You have very interesting ideas on how to adapt Jojo characters and their unique abilities to a fighting game, and I'd like to see you do more characters, something like Fugo or Risotto or whatever really. Keep up the good shit
@@illdee1 Or every other character that has only one move. Think Hot Pants. For example she can't "fight" well i mean the first time with johnny and gyro she took them by surprise and she just "disabled them". That wouldn't work well in a game, as it will be either overpowered or useless. Also when she was with Diego she was just assisting him, he was doing the fighting while she was distracting Valentine.
That Time Skip from Diavolo kinda makes me think of what they wanted to use for Isaac in Skullgirls. I can totally see something like that in a 2D fighter and equating meters to number of seconds “predicted” sounds amazing!
you could probably make diavolo's action a taunt, so that way it's easily hidden among his other actions and other characters dont know if to approach when he taunts or if he's just BMing
With the Diavolo time erase super it would be really cool if after the time has been "recorded" it just zooms out to show it was diavolo looking through his hair
The biggest crime from Eyes of Heaven is the complete absence of FF. Be it as a playable character or just a cameo in the credits, hell even Abbacchio appeared in the credits photo.
I feel like it could be super cool if Okayasu could use The Hand not to just pull opponents in, but to actually shrink the stage. Imagine a grappler who deals with zoners by making the stage smaller and smaller until they're forced to get in range. The grappler archetype also fits Okayasu's personality, so I feel like he could be a super cool character and one I would definitely main.
I love the idea of the Timeskip super. It shows perfectly how King Crimson actually works, and it makes you feel powerful whether you're in advantage or disadvantage.
Personally, my idea for Diego Brando's moveset would be: Standless Mode: 5A: a weak, but fast punch similar to when he caught a fly in midair in the Scary Monsters arc. Generally, this move would be 1 frame long. 5B: a fast swipe of his claws. This move would do average damage. 5C: Diego would swipe his tail against the opponent. This would a decent amount of damage. 2A: a 1 frame long weak swipe of his claws. 2B: Diego would thrust his tail onto the opponent. Average damage. 2C: A fairly long swipe of his tail that knock down his opponent. j.A: A weak swipe of his claws. 1 frame, for sure. j.B: A thrust of his tail. j.C: A devastating downwards swipe of his tail. Fairly with a ton of end lag. 236+Any attack: Dio would ram the opponent and bite him. 214+Any attack: A command grab in which Diego bites the opponent and leaves the opponent with bleed damage (kinda like Fugo's specials in ASB) Stand Mode: 5A: a weak headbutt. This would be about 2 frames long. 5B: a bite that does average damage. 5C: a devastating swipe of his tail that knocks back the opponent (like what Diego did to Gyro Zeppeli after Diego's transformation). 2A: a weak headbutt. 2B: a fairly weak bite. 2C: a strong swipe of his tail that would knock down his opponent. 236+Any attack: Diego would jump onto the enemy and bite a few times his opponent. Also leaving a bleed effect. 214+Any attack: Diego callls one of his infected dinosaurs that bites the opponent. This move would have a ton of lag. These supers are the same for Standless Mode and Stand Mode. 236+Any attack: Dio would hide in his blanket (like in the Scary Monsters arc before his complete transformation) and does a barrage of bites to his opponent (The cutting only shows up when Dio come out of the blanket). During the blanket phase, Diego is completely invulnerable. If you hold the same keys for the super you get to be hidden until your super meter is depleted. So this could be used in the most desperate of situations. This would cost 1 bar. 214+Any attack: Dio calls an army of infected dinosaurs that rush trough the opponent and bite him. This would cost 1 bar.
What if we had 2 versions of Diavolo, one being "Shadow Diavolo" with a moveset more in line with All Star Battle (which I find neat because of how Diavolo's appearance and the extent of KC's time skip power wasn't fully explored when Bruccalati initially fought him) and "True Diavolo" would work with the more technical mechanics that you suggested.
here are some idea alterative title "why we need another jojo fighting game develope by capcom" because let's be real. that abbachio idea was actually executed in gio gio for the ps2 just you know in a 3D enviroment now here are some idea for characters Trish:she can have a inkling like mecanic from smash ultimate but instead of increasing the damage dealth by you,you decrease the damage dealth by the enemy for a period of time,having heavy attack or light attacks that does this (with one decreasing damage dealth more than the others) and stack up with the time being 5 seconds of decrease damage being reset evertime the damage decrease until it reaches max decreased damage then trish can't reset the timer of decreased damage and super that make the opponent being unable to do damage by like 5 seconds and costing 7 bars or 6 bars thats all i don't have any more ideas
I absolutely love your idea for Diavolo, for the longest time I was wondering about how to make Time Erase work in a fighting game and I think you got it.
I'd love to see Superfly in a game as a special arena. Damage inflicted upon the environment would be dealt back and instead of invisible walls as stage limits, you would just get turned to metal and lose the match.
@@jestfullgremblim8002 nah itd be kinda like the tournament stage in most of the dragon ball games you get knocked out of superfly you turn to metal and lose the round I could see it making matches more hype
Diavolos epitaph could work like Sir Nighteyes foresight in 'My Hero Ones Justice 2' where the opponent moves as usual but their attacks are somewhat slower as it shows an outline of them doing an attack before it comes out, allowing you to punish them.
I'm late but you CAN interact with the Road Roller attack in ASB, but only as Jotaro. It's a button mash ebtween the two players that leads to a unique cutscene if Jotaro wins.
My new reps for a new Jojo game (with characters who haven’t been in a Jojo game yet.): Part 1: Tarkus and Bruford as a tag team switch out thing. Part 2: Santana, Straitzo, and maybe even Wired Beck if they can make him a full character. Part 3: The fake Captain. He’s the only other part 3 rep who could be a new full rep Part 4: Keicho Nijimura, Yuya Fungami Part 5: Formaggio, Prosciutto and Pesci, Ghiacchio, Chicolatta and Secco, and Abacchio. Part 6: Kenzou, Lang Rangler, Sports Max, Viviano Westwood, Rikiel. Part 7: Mountain Tim, Sandman, Ringo Roadagain, and the Eleven Men. Part 8: Jobin, A. Phex Brothers, Rai Mamezuku, Tamaki Damo, and part 8 Kira.
Kenzou would be perfect! There would be ”luck” and ”unluck” spots (directions aren’t really possible) that Dragon’s Dream shows (you just have them highlighted in green/red, opponent has to figure them out based on your actions) and your goal is to remain in Luck to be buffed and put your opponent in Unluck to debuff them.
My friends and I were recently discussing how we'd love to see stand powers implemented in a jojo fighting game and we both came up with nearly identical King Crimsons, but the difference for mine was rather than making the time skip power being a 5 meter move to balance it since I found it too integral to his entire kit, the move would be like 2-3 meters, and Diavolo would be legitimately slightly overpowered, not without counterplay since the actions can only happen once time starts of course, but legitimately intentionally overpowered, HOWEVER. After a certain amount of time or maybe randomly, he turns back into doppio, who is just a much weaker version of all his other moves and entirely without the time skip ability, and somewhere near the opponent a banana, icecream cone, child's toy phone, etc spawns on the arena, and doppio has to get to it while the opponent protects it and takes advantage of his weakened state. and if doppio gets it he can "call the boss" and turn back into diavolo for a while. I think this not only balances the OP time skip mechanic, but is a fun more unique character archetype, and has more references to the character thematically. (but it also makes him less viable and yours is better in that regard so not sure which I'd prefer.)
That sounds really awesome. One neat idea I had for Golden Experience Requiem would be making GER basically unbeatable. You do a 5 meter super that, let's say, only works if Giorno has under half of his hp, and Giorno grabs the arrow, shoving it into G.E. But, as the transformation occurs, Giorno stays vulnerable during 3 or 5 seconds. If he takes a hit during that time, he takes damage and the transformation stops, but the 5 super meters are still gone. This way, it feels the same way as it did in the anime. It's a desperate last resort move that is difficult to perform but gives you max satisfaction once you complete it. Once GER is on, it can't be turned of. His attacks will suffer an incredible buff. So will his speed, range and durability. G.E.R doesn't have any super. It would feel wrong, since GER more of a defensive stand. But his counter could be rewinding the opponents attack to zero. If the stage was the colosseum and the opponent Diavolo, there could be a dramatic finish that would pay omage to the anime, with there being multiple Diavolos that repeat the same action and finishing with the muda rush.
I loved your ideas for Diavolo and Kira, they really fit into the strategic and decisive aspects of a fighting game. Fighting games are more about outsmarting your opponent rather than overpowering them, and the way a lot of JoJo characters' unique powers and fights revolve around outsmarting each other makes it an awesome series for having a fighting game, and HFTF really captures that. All the unique, borderline broken abilities and gimmicks of each character can make for interesting interactions, strategies and *epic* moments with how fights between all these characters can go based on what their players do with them in the decisive moment(s). I have not played ASB but from what I've heard and seen of it, I'd much more prefer specials and supers that need actual consideration, set up and planning before using rather than a damage dealing cutscene.
don't we have an example of Moody Blues in the form of Bedman from GGXrd? he literally rewinds his special moves as projectiles, it's a perfect example. and could work really well
Exactly what I had in mind for him. And speaking of Guilty Gear, I think Enigma could have some moves like Faust, in that they summon items, and like May, summoning large objects to work as zoning projectiles.
Also, blazing fists is such an awesome looking mechanic that's really fun, but has almost no bearing on the outcome of a match, and is relatively rare to witness. I want impactful, slightly more frequent FISTING
Certain blazing fists could lead to different scenarios as well. The different stands could have different damage outputs for winning blazing fists scenarios as well, or even different properties depending on the stand. DIO and Jotaro could have the most damage for the blazing fists, Giorno's GE could cause a long stun-lock in reference to his sense-berserk ability, Kira and Narancia could have large knockback by sending their stands (Kira would use Sheer Heart Attack) to charge at their opponent, etc.
There is a system in an old dragon ball game (Burst Limit) where you don't have assists per say, but rather, if you meet certain conditions during a match, it triggers the events, you pick them at the start of the round. I feel like this would be an effective way of implementing assists into a Jojo fighting game without focusing entirely on a team, but at the same time, you could add in more specific moments that are just triggered via certain actions in the game, or certain situations (Almost like the unique finishers in EoH and ASB, but more versatile and useful than a fancy ending) Lets say, as an example, you're in a stage that contains certain parts that are darker than others, and your 'assist' is Black Sabbath. Then, whenever your opponent steps into the shadows, they have a debuff, or take some damage (I can't really think of the best examples for this, and the one I outlined is incredibly specific) Another better example that comes to mind is having Koichi as your assist Lets say, below a certain point of health, and you are about to do a special move (An example, oh, lets say, a time stop), then Koichi would activate Echoes Act 3, use 3 Freeze on the opponent, and they are basically vulnerable for that one move. Not only is this an effective way of allowing more player freedom in terms of how they play a character, its also more places to be able to add more references (E.G, those two things I outlined could be called 'There are now only 2 paths you can take' and 'You are truly a reliable guy'. I might be getting quotes wrong here; sue me) It also opens up more interesting interactions, which opens up even more doors for gameplay. Idk, its an idea at least.
Here is a list of characters that could be included and how they would work : Rohan Kishibe as a grappler / neutral-based character who can use various command grabs to turn the opponent into books and write things into them such as disabling their stand for a limited amount of time , sending them flying away in a direction , disabling access to meter and a counter grab where he shows someone the manuscript and they unravel into strips like how Okuyasu did Hazamada transforming his stand into the opponent via a command grab that changes its moveset and playstyle but cannot use their stand . Tonio animated like how B.B. Hood is in Darkstalkers but the complete opposite where he accidentally attacks the opponent but looks sinister beforehand and maybe a super where the opponent eats one of his meals and takes major damage but that damage is temporary so he has to finish them off before they regain it all . Trish using softened ground and walls to bounce all around the screen or set up traps and barriers . Formaggio throwing shrunken furniture and cars as projectiles before returning them to their normal size . A teleport where he shrinks down and through a sewer grate and a super where Little Feet shrinks them down and Formaggio puts them in a jar where they now have to partake in a short minigame against a spider that the Formaggio player controls . Risotto could form weapons out of the iron in the ground to attack with such as knives , poles , hammers and send them away like projectiles . He could turn invisible for a short time or send waves of scalpels like Dio’s knives super . Maybe a throw where he kicks the opponent onto a literal bed of nails . Cioccolata and Secco working together as a pair where Cioccolata is the main fighter using clouds of mold as traps that only activate if you crouch or jump into one and attacking the opponent with scalpels and by detaching his own arm to swing at them with meanwhile Secco acts as a puppet character that performs different actions depending on how the button is mashed when he is summoned . Diego Brando as a unique stance change character who has access to 4 movesets that each have different stats , partially transformed , on Silver Bullet while partially transformed , fully transformed and having Silver Bullet be fully transformed as it acts independently from Diego . Hot Pants as a weapon stand user who can switch from using Cream Starter to cut the opponent with long ranged lingering attacks at the cost of costing some flesh , which is an exclusive resource that only she can gain through command grabs or by using Cream Starter as a melee weapon with pistol whips like she did to Johnny .
@@AyyJay121 I wasn't downplaying those who play it, like yourself,and keep up with the community, I was just givng my reason as to why I think new players don't get into it as it related to the original comment.
Imagine: Star Finger is a technique in which SP’s energy is focused in his fingers to extend them; in game I imagine it as a gamble move that takes at least a full bar of meter- the more meters you can feed it, the higher the damage and range. There could also be the tether grab version from EOH that doesn’t cost as much and does baby damage
