Joola Ben Johns Hyperion CFS 16mm First Impressions 

These are primarily things I wanted to save for a full review because it was too early for me to really be able to tell when making this video. Another reason is I'm headed out of town for 11 days tomorrow, so I had to really rush to get this one up. Appreciate you mentioning those things!

Webster, can you provide any insight about the CX forged handle from when you did your re-wrap, per above. You can see my question to Chris below on this topic.

@@roberthowell9918 Unfortunately, I can't post pictures to a youtube reply, but the handle is molded carbon fiber. All "forged CF" means is that pieces of CF and resin are mixed together and then vacuum molded while the resin cures. If you've ever removed the grip of a tennis racket you can see the hard foam molded handles. It's the same look here but with CF.

@@webstermiller7765 So, it's not two pieces of Three-side material stapled on, like most other manufacturers (and on my Joola Radius). Was very underwhelmed with the Radius Handle build. Same old. Was hoping for better.

I super glued my edge guard and it’s been great! Joola said mine was defective and sent a second one as well. They said only a small batch had the edge guard issue that mine did.

Thankfully it’s a true octagon!

Appreciate you watching! Hopefully I'll be able to get the others to try.

Someone in one of the facebook groups I follow bought both the Hyperion CFS and the Solaire CFS. They prefer the Solaire over the Hyperion although they love both.

Hopefully doing a full review by mid June or early June! CFS has become my main paddle and I’ve loved it. Spin is an interesting topic, I recently retested and noticed the numbers dropped a lot. From 1584 to 1200. But I want to do more testing since I have another brand new one. Edge guard came very loose, but I just superglued it and now it is fine. It seems mine was just defective and this isn’t a common issue. Overall I think the Hyperion is a pretty amazing paddle.

I’ve actually reached out to then a few times, but they never respond :(

@@PickleballStudio good to know…and bummer

Eventually! It’ll take some time though since I’m going out of town.

@@PickleballStudio Working on it?

@@kento1957 Still haven't managed to get any of the others.

I’ve actually tried to contact them several times about it! I haven’t gotten any response from them.

@@PickleballStudio oh dang it! I’ve got both, I’ll send you one at a time haha

Haven’t weighted it yet!

Would like to see those two along with Electrum and Engage Pursuit MX 6.0. 👍🏼

The electum model e has the exact dimension as the invicta so thats your best alternative. I’m an invicta player myself and i just ordered the model e

Hi Bob. I haven’t yet played with any of the Joola paddles (yet) but I do play regularly with the Electrum “E” and got a CRBN1 16mm 2 days ago to try out. I use a ton of top spin on my serves and I try out most of the paddles that claim “heavy spin” and can judge pretty quickly whether the are spin-strong or not. The surface look, feel and grit of the CRBN1 is exactly like that on the “E”. The surfaces are identical. The top spin generated on my serves were also nearly identical. The only difference I could detect, after about 5 hours of solid drilling and a few games, were the sweet-spot on the CRBN1 may be a little better, or more forgiving, than the “E”. If I don’t pay hyper attention on watching the ball to the paddle, I can mis-hit some of my shots. If I didn’t already have the “E” I’d def be keeping the CRBN1 but since I do, I’ll probably return the CRBN1 and work on doing better at keeping my eye on the ball.

@@sudipb7467 If there is, it’s not enough to notice and def not enough to keep the CRBN1 (and I do like it a lot) if you already have the “E”.

Check out the solaire. Same surface just different head shape

In no particular order I think it would be: Diadem Warrior Electrum Model E Hyperion CFS I would need to hit with a few others to remember what I think the last two would be. A rough ball park might be an Engage Pursuit and an Invikta.

Thx I was looking for someone who had tried both for their feedback.

I mention the spin results in the video :)

I haven’t tried it! Hoping to eventually.

Electrum Pro is quite different since it’s 13mm. Those are also both wide body paddles that I haven’t hit much so I can’t give a direct comparison.

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There wasn't ever anything that hinted towards his being special or different than the stuff on shelves.

@@PickleballStudio He took of and replaced the grip and edge weighted his paddle. Along with replacing the paddle at any sign of the surface texture wearing out.

It really depends. I think for more serious competitors, the extra $20-40 compared to Electrum, Engage and CRBN is negligible. If money is a giant concern, I don’t immediately think this is leaps and bounds better. More incremental upgrades that are nice to have. More casual players probably won’t care too much and that extra money may not be worth it. More time with it will tell though.

Mentioned at 2:29. 1584 RPM

Joola has made statements saying their paddles are fully legal.

@@PickleballStudio thanks to let me know. I will check the link you send to me.

He literally designed this one, so i imagine the pay cheque and the freedom of design was appealing

I think a big portion is Joola has much better manufacturing prowess compared to other companies and their unique position in Asian markets which I assume if he is getting a percentage is a massive deal

If Rubber ever became a legal hitting surface for Pickleball (which it could be, since it technically doesn't have any grit)... Joola about to go in lol

@@halohawkxx There are rules that tests the cohesion of a surface too.

You think he's higher or lower?

@@JamesKmosko HIGHER.