Joseph Smith, the Necromancer - Dan Vogel 

Did Joseph ever do any digging? I thought he would lose his "gift" if he touched a shovel! Haha

Dan does have a gift for spinning old tall-tales into new, but I agree with Jono, JS didn’t really dig up the plates etc. mainly just moved the rock. And the papyrus was dug up by someone else, so can’t fault JS there 🙂

Jesus warned against adding to the gospel. Joseph Smith's "another gospel of Jesus Christ" is sheer heresy!! It's utterly confounding that Smith was given any creedence at all. Can only conclude that people were dumb & gullible back then. That & his dark arts, biblicy forbidden, seduced people in.

@@Joe-ty2jp WHAT?! LMAOOO You think there were ANY plates OR papryus? Wowww..... DELUSIONAL/naive

@@davidjones8043 …except that multiple eyewitnesses saw both, and some of the papyrus still exists 🙂

Jesus son was an occultist

@@Scott23882 no He was not! Give sources! Satan would like you to believe that. Do not confuse your supernatural sources. Satan is nothing but a deceiver and forger. He mimics God so as to bring doubt and confusion. From your comments, you’ve fallen for the deception

Tell them anyway. You love them? You have to warn them. Are you Christian?

good for your family

@@zachmoss8896 Joseph Smith was a 33rd degree Freemason. In the writings of the Freemasons in the morals and dogma of Freemasonry written by Albert Pike he plainly States that Freemasons worship Lucifer. Joseph Smith also had 34 wives many of them he married in secret Because they were already married. That's called adultery. All of his prophesies failed. He was a pathological liar and he died and went to h***. It was also a pedophile.

For real. I get all excited like when Marshall Mathers drops a new song. Lol

No doubt about it...Dan is ..The Man!

@@korvaamiko66 Sure. I was speaking about myself. Not his intentions.

Wait till you do a deep dive into the Bible. If you thought Joseph Smith was up to his neck in magic and astrology ...

Praise Jesus. :)

Was he crazy because of the spirits?!

Lol! Locked up in the attic? Nonsense. Don't you realize you are listening too and believing nothing more than tall tales and gossip. .

@@tamaraelsberry6630 Still they are closer to the truth than anything Smith told folks.

Yeah this isn't covered enough I feel. Hey snappy!

Ugh

I'm going to further speak to the "Smith" family and occult practices. I can prove that, albeit a different Smith, that there's great significance to Gladys Smith Presley, also being of an occult background. Maybe the surname Smith being the most common name; that there's more meaning to why that last name is very popular.

It was originally called a "peep stone".

You have to tell them it’s found on the church website or they won’t believe you

@@jamestrek2570 in 2016 I told my bishop about the Gospel Topics Essays on the church website and he said I was a liar. That stuff has always been anti mormon lies. He didn't know about the November exclusion policy either. I had to explain it to him. This same bishop refused to let me baptize and confirm my son because eventhough I was a full tithe payer he insisted I wasn't and that I needed to pay more in order to be worthy. Smh, I dusted off my shoes and never went back.

In non Mormon Magick it is called a Show Stone. It's used like a black mirror. I grew up Mormon and now practice Theistic Satanism. A source for more on this topic is Paul Huson's ' " Mastering Witchcraft". He also has chapters on necromancy and curses or casting.

Look up the Urim and Thumim that were used by the ancient Israelite high priests to assist in receiving revelation from God and to judge.

John Dee was not known as a deceiver and chronic liar. Edward Kelly, well, that's another story.

I must have missed that Ensign article too...

The Dagger is prepared in the way described in the Grimoum Verum. It would have been used for animal sacrifice. Look up the black sheep Joseph took from the Stafford Farm without paying. The court ordered him to make sap buckets as compensation.

​@AppleScab (Venturia inaequalis ) who talked about this before?

@AppleScab (Venturia inaequalis ) no worries

@@weightelk Sandra Tanner

Huckleberry Finn. What is about the magik in it?! Guy who wrote it was a freemason

Where is the best place to buy your book? Amazon? Also, is there any anticipation of your new book being on audible, or available as an audiobook?

?! More information?!

Thanks for watching Nick. I saw your 2020 presentation a few days ago thanks to Mark Elwood. I imagine you have moved beyond some of your interpretations expressed there. I hope in some small way my presentation inspires you to push it even further. Good luck.

@@danvogel6802 I have absolutely evolved since then on a number of issues. Partly a matter of newly-uncovered evidence, partly the kind of epiphanies that were there in evidence all along!

So what have you uncovered with these so called Christian cults?! Heard it was the same for Jehovah witness. Certain religions in the USA also were either Masonic cults broken off or built by groups of people interested in some occultist philosophy

I notice the connection with astrology, the searching for treasure, and needing a way shower. This makes me think of Aquarius and the Southern Fish, found at the foot of the Great One, the ancient name of Aquarius, where many of the star names of Aquarius are associated with luck and finding things, such as; Albali (Al Bali) was the brightest star of the 21st manzil (Arabic Moon Mansion), Al Sad al Bula‘, the Good Fortune of the Swallower, which included mu (μ) and nu (ν). Sadalsuud is from Al Sad al Suud, liberally translated the Luckiest of the Lucky. Sadalmelik is from the Arabic Al Sa’d al Malik, the Lucky One of the King, sometimes given as Al Sa’d al Mulk, the Lucky One of the Kingdom. Sadachbia, from Al Sad alAhbiyah (now called Sadalachbia) which has been interpreted the Lucky Star of Hidden Things or Hiding-places. Skat the Shin-Bone, from Arabic called Scheat, and Scheat Edeleu, the word variously derived: either from Al Shi’at, a Wish or from AlSak, the Shin-bone. Pisces Australis is the Southern Fish, and not to be confused with the two fishes of Pisces. The Southern Fish is depicted with its mouth open, drinking the water that is being poured from the jar of Aquarius. Allen [Star Names] says that this constellation was believed to be the “Oxyrinque adored in Egypt.” Oxyrhynchus is the town named after a species of fish of the Nile River which was important in Egyptian mythology as “the fish that swallowed the penis of Osiris.” Fomalhaut is the star at the mouth of the Southern Fish, is associated with one of the 4 brothers of Horus the Elder, the Wolf-Headed God Wepwawet, whose title is 'Opener of the Way', along with Fomalhaut b, the two create a Dragon Eye, Fomalhaut b is known as Dagon, where they say Draco and Dragon got their names. In the center of the ancient star maps, the Head of Draco, was where you find a Standing Wolf, it circles around the pole star Polaris, known to the Greeks as Kynosoura, which means “the Dog's Tail”, and the Dog uses it's tail to point the way. Now for something else, play "Say You're Well Taught", in reverse, listen to it's echo, it says "Aquarius", and the words "Thou Am Wolf" will echo "Fomalhaut" played in reverse. Osiris is associated with Orion, at the foot of Orion is Lupus the Rabbit, who somehow ended up on the Moon, in ancient times, Lupus was the Roster, and the Sword of Orion is what the Southern Fish Swallowed, Albali, the Good Fortune of the Swallower, play "They All Rule" in reverse, it echoes "Orion".

I grew up in a small town in southern Alberta in western Canada where the Mormons had considerable power. After my county was reported as having one of Canada's highest teenage pregnancies rates my mother, a high school teacher, started the school's first sex education workshop. At the same time the Mormons had gained the majority vote on the town's board of education and were not happy about that workshop so they fired my mother from her job 2 years short of her teaching pension , after teaching in that town for 23 years. If i had the cash i would buy 500 copies of Dan's book and flood that town with them.

its a lie

Truly sorry to hear that homie Most Mormons I've met have at least superficially seem like wonderful people Unfortunately it's a masonic religion, obsessed with other planets , and has a huge problem with child abuse,much of it satanic imo Being masonic means it's luciferian and Kabbalahist,also masons are absolutely obsessed with aliens aka inter dimensional beings

yep, that Joseph Smith sure liked to con people, & conjure! him & L.Rong Hubtard, & a few others, opportunists, just couldn't pass on a gullible American public hungry for a better way of life. but the Mormons ive met & talked to have all seemed above average people, straight forward & hard working, plus they don't drink, smoke or do drugs, not even caffeine!

​@@zachmoss8896please elaborate. Cite your sources that support your claim that it's a lie

@@evancleary5075 really? This is the same old crap that you people have been using for over 200 years. Good grief cite my sources ? Well one BIG Source Is God

"righteous treasure" - yes i can certainly see a Mormon Elder coming up with that explanation hahah

Thanks for noticing.

I didn't mention that in ceremonial magic, the handle of the dagger is black or white depending on the kind of spirit being invoked. The Smith dagger is brown.

​@@danvogel6802 maybe they wanted a little of both sides and went with brown.

The Dagger was prepared as instructed to do so in the Grimoum Verum. Wicca did not exist in Smith's time. He used Barrett's The Magus 1801.

​@@jerrimenard3092I need to read that book.

A lot of Christian churches must have been Masonic or Shriner cults.

They do not appear in the catalog, but I verified that they are in the LDS Church's collection. So they are not available to the public.

@@danvogel6802 In other words, you could be full of shit.

@@JakobPGrau In other words, THE CHURCH IS NOT BEING FULLY TRANSPARENT...AGAIN.

I don't know you senor Bob but u r full of it

Russell put his face in a hat on camera...I'm excited to see what Oaks might do. If he "sees" the sealed portion of the gold plates, I'll go back to church that Sunday :)

Ya

Jeff:. You could start a new priesthood/prophet practice using pocket lint & pick-up stix

Start by looking in a mirror. Liars like to do that.

Annunaki movie. LDS not wrong, no church wrong if bringing closer to HF. Open mind, all possibilities, think eternally 😉🤯🥰

Thanks.

Yes, medicine bags are considered amulets. These things appear in many cultures.

I love the Goetic Hierarchy. That would be book 6. I suggest starting with a demon like Vassago or Stolas. I was raised LDS and now practice Theistic Satanism. I work with this book frequently.

​@@jerrimenard3092 Interesting. May I ask how successful you were with those demons?

You both need to repent. In Jesus name, I pray the Holy Spirit give you some righteous convictions that’ll stir you to the truth and that you’ll choose wisely who you serve. Satan is a lying loser, JS is burning in hell right now…. Im telling ya bluntly, turn to Jesus before you completely sear your conscience and lose the ability to repent. God is merciful but he will give you over to a debased mind if you continue to despise his truth.

Oh, funny. The set by my head is my 6-volume Wilford Woodruff Journals by Benchmark Books. The black and tan set is the Interpreters Bible Dictionary that I have had since my 20s. The red and grey is the Interpreter's Bible Commentary, which also dates to my 20s.

I came to ask something similar! Wondering about the call number or any info about the location in CHL.

A lot of the searching I have done says the Dagger is in private collection. Unfortunately, I think we won't see it unless we know who/ what family has it. The sigils are in Lee Library at BYU. They are in public domain so have at it. The Jupiter square is very useful and easy to make with stuff from a nearby arts and craft shop. Just watch your planetary hour.

Thanks, TO. I have one. I just don't get around to it, but I should.

Jo JoS' myth stole our female Craft keys to the kingdom The Women waistline Art of Heart Earth Harth MEN are exiled for doing magic The Wyrd Valkyrie of Valhalla watch Tower. Bishops To Scope watchers spies for Rome. Angles Angles

Yep. Feels like a Grus Grus bag similar stuff

Thanks. I don't know how long it will take to research and write the Nauvoo book.

I haven't been to church in nearly twenty years, but I am glad to see the LDS Church becoming more open to its past. I nearly fell out of my chair when I saw Joseph Smith's stone published in the Church website. You could never talk about this stuff at Church in my day. I say the Church should own its past! It's not a shameful thing at all, it is part of history and early American frontier culture.

Not sure how you got 690. Quin got 459 using 9 for both J and I. If you substitute just one with 600, you get 1050.

The shirt supplied by Mark Elwood of The Glass Looker

When I was there a few years ago, they claimed to have it but wouldn't let us see it.

@@danvogel6802 😲 i wonder why

I just tried CC and it worked. Does it work for you?

It worked! Thank you

where did you get it? I want one!

Mark Elwood of The Glass Looker

@@danvogel6802 thank you, I'll check it out online 👍