Josh Giddey is not good. 

He's had two great seasons, and then one bad season in the midst of the off court drama. He fixes his 3 point shot and EVERYTHING opens up for OKC including his insane passing. Kid is 21. I think he proves everyone wrong in a year or two. Everyone wanted Dort traded last year and that was as shortsighted as this 'analysis'.

This aged well….

Vehemently disagree on his finishing touch. 65% at the rim and 45% from floater range (on high volume) is *excellent* for a player his age. Especially without high end athleticism. I'm actually really impressed with his ability to burrow his way to the basket and finish every time I watch him. He methodically works his way toward the rim and suddenly he has a layup. Giddey's biggest problem is he's a 6'8" point guard who's being asked to be a 3-and-D off ball wing. Its like using a hammer to chop down a tree and then saying the hammer sucks. The hammer is fine, you're just using it wrong

This aged well

Get a new job mate , take on a 21 year old who has done what he has done already . Adjusting to new role this year , J Williams becoming a stud , less touches for Giddey and off court stuff . Think he’s going ok and will keep going better in years to come.

You guys along with Jason from Hoops are a hidden treasure to us true basketball fans

Nobody was talking this shit when he carried us past the first round in the play in 💯. As far as I'm concerned, everyone can sthu🙌.

TAKE THE L for the bad vod

People realise Giddey has other things on his mind this season. Next season he will hit stride and show you 'OKC Fans' what he can do.

He just got boo’d at every game for the last few months… ill give him a break

He’s just turned 21 . 🤫

As a thunder fan, thats exactly why we got Gordon, his advanced stats indicate he is the guy we went for 3p shooting and rim running

This is gonna age like milk.

He won a few ROTM in his first season, yes his 3 point shooting is bad but he’s a great playmaker and helps with rebounds. He was a good finisher too he’s just struggling this season he’s still only 21

If Giddey shoots 32% from the 3, then why was he shooting 0% in this video? What makes Josh look bad is the Thunder brings a bench like Cason, Isaiah Joe and Wiggins, all great 3 pt shooters. It makes Josh look expendable. And he helped create the share the ball, assist laden culture the Thunder are known for. Like the pass to Wiggins on the back door cut 19 days ago vs Toronto with 5 seconds left to get us to overtime.

He’s a very good player, he just no longer fits as well with all the playmaking the Thunder have. Saying he’s bad is just a bad take.

Josh Giddey's offensive game is just as undeveloped, as the girls he dates.

Me being an okc fan and wanting to see Giddey succeed you bring up a lot of good points, he isn’t a finished product as of now but I have a few thoughts on what him as a finished player could look like, and I’ll bring up some positives I feel like he brings to the table already to this team. Regarding his future and what player he could turn into, i feel like if he can get his jumper to be like 34-36% on catch and shoot threes i could maybe see him as like a Joe ingles with worse court spacing and offball instincts. Great passing as you mentioned and if he can improve marginally as a shooter (which he already has to this point) a lot of the gripes people have with him as a scorer won’t be as prevalent. He’s also developed a little but of bully ball post game this year, and while he’s not good at it right now I could see that being an interesting wrinkle he could bring to the offense down the road. I also feel like he’s pretty decent from floater range even tho the stats this season wouldn’t suggest that, the last 2 seasons he’s been better from that area. I’m not sure if it’s a confidence thing or something else but I don’t suspect he’ll be low 40s from that area in the long term, more of a slightly above average efficiency from that spot on high volume. What he brings right now to okc is a decent backup point guard for non shai minutes, and his rebounding is also pretty helpful on this team that’s one of the worst in that category in the league. He doesn’t make up for all our rebounding woes but he stops the bleeding in a sense, and our wings already struggle immensely in that aspect so to have a guard compensate for that is pretty cool. I also think while he isn’t a good on ball defender by any means I do think he’s a large body who knows how to position himself correctly in many instances, I don’t usually see to many lapses off ball where the opposition is able to create an advantage from his lack of awareness. Also he just became of legal drinking age dude still has so much more growing to do. I know he has a lot of weaknesses right now but this was to be expected, the lineup numbers with him and shai sharing the court weren’t pretty even last season when were were damn near 500. We know he’s an awkward fit especially with shai but I’m willing to be patient, and when we started to be competitive again his weaknesses would be more apparent, and us having such an accelerated rebuild did him no favors because he’s even less for a finished product then he would’ve been had we not been as good this season. Not tryna make excuses, he has been having a rough season, but I’m keeping my stock I still see the upside. Idk if you’ll see this but I’d love to see if I’m being a delusional okc fan or u kinda see what I’m saying.

I remember in middle school my music teacher somehow convinced himself that I must be great at violin. He pressured me into going to orchestra. I couldn’t read the sheet music (only the frets) and resorted to just playing random shit during the practice. I saw him frowning as he conducted and needless to say he stopped pressuring me to attend. Sigh, I imagine Giddey must feel a bit like that but on a much grander scale. I feel for him regardless of his misjudgment with the teenager, it must be difficult to be exposed so publicly through no real fault of his own

Giddey is in the best form of his career right now. Probably the best okc player in March. He is on fire right now. Your vids is irrelevant and you should make another vids of his recent performance.

ridiculous arguments. It's like you want him to be another Curry or Fox, that's what SGA is for. The athletic argument is ridiculous, Jokic isn't athletic either. Josh is as quick as anyone else up the floor. Just because a player doesn't put on a circus show doesn't make him a bad player. Depending who he's on with he's playing virtually every position. His court vision is insane. He's already one of the best passers in NBA history. Noone comes remotely close as an inbound passer. He's made game winning passes on multiple occasions. What's the problem with being aggressive going to the rim? Yeah he fumbles the ball occasionally, but then so does bloody Harden. So do tons of good players. His handles will only improve with time, as will his 3 pt percentage. The whole frigging team shoots the three well, over 30% isn't terrible. He's a key part of the team's continued success, despite this cherrypicked trashing.

Last year Giddey averaged 16.6 points but you're claiming he can't score? LMAO He's starting on what is arguably the best team in the West and he's an integral part of their success. His minutes have been cut back by 7 per game which is why his stats are down plus they've added Chet who obviously will take away from his number but he's improved his 3 point shooting to 33% and his free throws to 83%. You will see better play out of him the 2nd half because the bullshit with the girl is over. This is a REALLY dumb video.

Everyone says he's not playing like last year. He is being played 6 minutes less than last year. You think his stats might be down? Duh.... Also, Giddy's recent stretch of games proves he can step it up when he gets the opportunity. He's been the 4th scoring option all year and they don't let him handle the ball as much as he should. Now with SGA out we can see what Giddy can do. Bad video!

He actually is good ngl.

Got to love how completely clueless you are about his situation. The guy is 21 playing in a position he has never played before in his life with his confidence completely stripped. Giddey at the moment isn't playing well for okc, thats a given, but he isn't a bad player, you are writing a kid off way too early in a career where he has had very little opportunity to play his true role. He played really well in the FIBA world cup in a team were he could run the offece as a point guard

I gotta say, I think you’re going to eat humble pie on this one. Do you understand that although it may be Giddey’s third season, he’s actually younger than Chet Holmgren? You don’t need him to be an offensive hub pressuring defences with his scoring, he’s got great connective passing and can score as required. 55% TS isn’t great, but he’s got a lot of room to grow, not least because he’s only 21. Also, 34% from 3 isn’t good either, but there’s worse for sure.. I could genuinely see him growing to be an all star in future as he continues to grow in experience.

aged like milk

So what would you say the last couple weeks he did for the team mmmmm

what a rancid bucket of arsewater analysis, no awareness of team dynamics and structure, no idea of complimentary playing styles ... just fluffing the numbers.

Bro, you are completely wrong. Stop sooking and admit he's a REALLY good player.

32% from 3 is not that bad

Taking crap. First 2 seasons hex was developing & getting better. Everyone seen that. That controversial problem with that minor hurt his confidence & self esteem because of false accusations . Crowds & media turned on him. Other players who are key shooters are in the main team line up.l starting 5. He has a new role & important position. Poor reporting here mate

This video is a great reminder nba RU-vidrs know nothing about basketball

Josh Giddey last 4 games (5reb 4ast 16pts), (9reb 6ast 11pts), (6reb 6ast 19pts), (5reb 4ast 13pts). This is in the NBA, not in your mind in the drive.

Love the video, fantastic analysis combining film and stats I plan on watching more

All is good but drop the Josh Giddey bashing. It's been run into the ground. Would be nice once and awhile to just have people talk about the team and the vibes. This other stuff was outdated 3 weeks ago

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He's not a bad player, he's being played as a shooting guard, and his shooting isn't there yet. He's only 21. This is an awful hack at a young player who has improved his shooting every year He's been in the league! He's a point guard that never has the ball in his hands because Shai is there. He just needs to get out of OKC and into a system that needs a 1!

Josh Giddey is great.

LOL. 21 yr old who is being asked to stand in the corner as a spot up shooter. He needs to get off the Thunder to realize his potential.

These are the same dudes who said Jokic is a better scorer than Luka. I mean I can understand if you think Jokic is a better player, but it's ridiculous to think he's a better scorer than Doncic. As for Giddey, he's a good role player, and could become an exceptional role player.

Noticed this too. Seems OKC offense can be slowed down if sga is not hitting

What is people talking about. Since march his average 16.1p 7d 6a from 40 percent from 3 and 55 percent from fg. Don’t talk bad about someone to the end of the Season

Listen to you afficionados !!

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hard to argue any of this. as a fan of ole Gordy who was heartbroken when my Celts got him and he had that awful injury, i'm just hoping he stays healthy cuz he can play PG, SG, SF and will definately make OKC better

Josh Giddey is a shorter Ben Simmons who is worse passer, defender, and finisher.

NerdSesh and StayHot are the best things going in sports media today

Can you please make a video on Cam Whitmore or Amen Thompson?

Both a lifelong OKC fan and from Giddeys home country of Australia. I was rooting for him, especially in his sophomore season where he's was pretty good, this season I thought he'd be unleashed with Chet added to the system but man he looks lost and does not fit in our system today, there is a big reason he doesn't play in crunch time aside for in an inbounds pass, he can't score, can't defend, can't shoot, can't dunk I can go on. I was so bought in onto the hype and the bias and his first couple seasons that I could look past that, but with OKC taking things more serious this years its blatantly obvious he is not a go to guy when goings are tough

Maybe Gordon Hayward should start over him as soon as he gets his rhythm back after recovering from injury.

Great video

i’m a thunder fan and have wanted him gone all year, but i see the vision: he already has the passing vision and switchable size that you can’t necessarily teach, and a delayed development cycle isn’t a terrible thing when you consider the cap rules. if you get consistent, incremental improvements in giddey’s shooting off the catch (say, 2% per year for the next 3 years, which is doable with the terrific shooting coaches okc’s got) and defense, then he could become a pretty good fourth guy as his build fills out and his drives get backed up with better strength. if that takes 3-4 years, that’s actually not bad for the thunder because it gets them past his first contract negotiation before he fills out into a $15 million/year guy. i’m not a cap expert by any means, but from what i’ve seen and heard, the biggest issue under the new CBA is getting good value from non-stars. if he’s not a top 50ish guy when he signs the extension but can develop into one, then he makes sense. definitely a disappointing return for the 6th overall pick, but a guy who can shoot like 38% on catch-and-shoot 3s, play alright defense with a switchable frame, and brings really good playmaking seems to me like he fits along with the core. assuming he can stay playing basketball.

I get what you're saying,but i think that all of the drama at the start of the year still affects him mentally and is slowing down his development,i think he can become a great shooter in the future and a great finisher thanks to his size and touch.

Great analysis man

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Of course Giddey could improve his jump shot if he does the work he could also improve on defense because although he is not as athletic as others he is STILL 6 FOOT 8 and yes that means something.. I do think he may be traded and he will never be close to a star but if he improves his shooting just open shots and is smart on Defense he can become a solid role player.. However if he does none of those things then forget it..

Thunder Fan here, it’s crazy you nailed this perfectly and it’s only offensively. Could imagine how it would be if you spoke on his lack of defense.

what do interesting to me is that he would be better anywhere but OKC, they’re playing 5 out, and he can’t shoot, he can’t handle, and he isn’t fast. how’s he meant to get a shot to fall? if he was with a more traditional point guard or even if he had someone on his team more adept at creating shots that are good for specific people (i.e. luka, jokic, or harden) Shai is a good ball distributor but the thing about him is when he gets you the ball you still have to kind of create a shot, no matter how open you are, which giddy can’t do

Josh Giddy Imo needs to get better as a cutter and maybe delvop a floater in the pick n roll if he can't I think it would be wise to get rid rid maybe get a secondary big behind Chet or a vertan wing in the offense I honestly would prefer Casen Wallace with SGA because of his defense abittes

I thought from the tiktoks you were just a stat sheet memorizer. Very happy to learn you actually know ball

Great video, totally agree about Giddey. I'm excited to see Hayward's debut tonight. I wish they had traded Giddey though, BC I know Mark is still gonna start him and play him significant minutes.

I just don’t know why everyone thinks Josh is buns when he’s 21 and his first two years were solid this year has just been hard for him I’m sure with the off the court drama

An one more comment please stop acting like you can see into the future

To add to the Draymond comparison, Draymond is quietly having a good year from 3pt land

OKC can fix this one. They should know that Giddey is NOT an OFFBALL player, he sucks, But he is a good playmaker. What they need to do is: - Start Wiggins or Joe or even, Hayward (for more experience) - Bench Giddey, make him the playmaker PG at the bench (together with Jdub as people know that Jdub is the only playmaker once SGA sits) - Get some SF/PF in the draft that has a great body, shot creator and good rebounder

I think he can be a decent bench player but when you rely on him on closing lineup you will run into serious issues against great team for sure .

Chip Engelland's new project... Hopefully.

On this team he needs to me in the Manu role to be best and we need to draft Sarr...

Imagine if OKC took Wagner instead of Giddey, kept the 16th pick and took Segun instead of trading up for Dieng. PG-SGA SG-Wagner SF-Williams PF-Holmgren C-Segun

Bro he 21 years old like goddamn on top of that he in a role that doesn’t suit his skill set

This vid aged like wine😂 so far Dallas has shown him absolutely no respect from outside the arc they put Daniel Gafford on him and it makes life easier for Gafford knowing he’s guarding a non shooter which means he can bring help defense constantly

Bro Josh giddey is my nba comp (actually i think I play better defense but everything he said on offense is true

Nice hit job you must have a lot of free time. The kid's a FUCKING ROOKIE!

Everyone is hating on you, but you were RIGHT lol

Carson does a good job

Hes only playing bad because of what happened. He is a great player, his passing is nice, just last year you guys were glazing him saying how this is how ben Simmons should be playing. He will be back to form shortly

U called it

So Ben Simmons with no defensive acumen or explosiveness, basically.

I think he's very tradable on draft day. Packaged with picks for a high pick

Watching these highlights of Josh giddy is really putting me in a bad mood 😂

Haters gonna hate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You wanna go ahead and delete this bro? 😂

But this dude Giddey is a passing ass....for those who don't understand slang ...The guy can pass his ass off 😅😅😅

I think he still has potential but they need to maybe send him to the g league for a bit

As a Thunder fan I figured he would’ve been traded already

Josh Giddey top 3 Nba players of all time Trae Young Thaddeus Young Nick Young

how is Maclung not on a team

The criticisms are fair but I think you guys could probably do better than ragging on a 21 year old fringe starter who has obviously had absolutely everything go wrong for him this year. He's obviously going to get a contract extension and be an ok role player.

dont let them shut u up he played 10 mins and was -20😂

This aged like a white lady in Miami.

I’m very sad because I’m a big Josh Giddey fan. He’s just not good at what they need

I’m a huge okc fan I live here giddey is good but has his limitations right now Jason kid was never a right shooter . But if I’m being honest Carson Wallace will eventually take his spot

This did NOT age well💀🙏

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Josh giddey is a pass first point guard out of position. He was not the most talented and not a need so why pick him. It was a dumb pick. They should have taken kuminga who fell to them. I still think he'll be decent on another team in his preferred role.

Ben Simons is better than Josh Giddy and that says a lot

C'mon man where's your feel or understanding of the game and what's happening in someones life at the time. The sooner you understand they're human and have doubts etc just like all of us do at times the better you'll understand the game, life.✌️

he needs the ball in his hands to be good but thats not gonna happen with SGA in front of him in thr pecking order. okc should prob trade him

being a 0 level scorer and a negative defender and STILL STARTING is wild 🤣