Just How BAD Is Bryce Young? 

Tbf though cj has the same amount of help and has play a decent bit better.

​@datelessdark4763 eh, he threw for a lot of yards but he didn't actually look very good. The Colts corners are awful and Nico Collins is good.

@@Peyton1218 Nico has not been this good in his career… what a nothing burger of a response

​@@Peyton1218He still looks better tho

How much of you actually watched him instead of copying each others opinions?

He's too small. No matter what team he would be on..NFL just isn't for him..going to enjoy watching him and everyone else understand why 🍿

Look at cj stroud

look at houstons offensive line and receivers as well as coaches and an actual running game@@xancypillosi9497

@@xancypillosi9497 Give it time.

@@xancypillosi9497 That's your analysis? Look at another rookie who's doing much better? Why is he doing much better? Switch teams and I think BY excels with Houston and CJ Stroud would struggle (like Young) with a horrible Carolina Panther team.

@@Dave_MB give it to you lol. Look at cj stroud fool

😂 only problem CJ is a known switch hitter

@@wildestcowboy2668 what is that?

@@Bullboy_Adventures he go both ways g

😂😂 WHODAT ⚜️

welcome to the nfl! not going to see alabama wr's open by 15 yards anymore for tiny baby brycey boy! Kids gonna have to grow a foot or learn how to play baseball...... Same reason I have concern for caleb wiliiams. Not an NFL throw in his entire tape - the exact same problem with Bryce. SEC/College Ball is two to three tiers below the NFL talent.

@@asacloutier7530if you look at the analytics, the panthers have zero recievers that are getting separation at a league average rate. That is not on Bryce

@@BrandedWings 😮

@@asacloutier7530nahhh, he just has a bunch of No.3 WRs, so NFL DBs aren’t fooled by those weak routes and lack of awareness vs. zone to work open

He looks worse than Stroud and Richardson so far and that’s a fact

Amen. Dude's played 2 games on nfl level. Let him learn and develop.

@@wady8785why does it matter? Not everybody develops the same rate. Remember when people were saying Tua sucked and Herbert and Burrow were so much better and it turns out Tua was just in a really bad situation? It’s 2 games

​@@wady8785And the panthers offense looks way worse then those offenses

@@wady8785Big difference between playing the worst of those 3 and being a bust you goof

I just have 0 faith in Reich personally. I think that's why Bryce is having a hard time. But he has the football IQ and abilities to get over it.

He was the number 1 pick and we have to reach to find any positives... that says alot

@@Nickh4929it’s been two games lol

The QB school says the same thing about every QB.

​@@Rick_Sanchez_308except Justin Fields 😂😂😂

The receivers part CANNOT be overstated. Carolina’s receivers are either old/slow and unable to separate (Thielen) or just plain not ready to play (Mingo). If they still had Moore, we wouldn’t be having this conversation right now.

Honestly I think Reich is a problem. I'm a Colts fan, so I'm biased, but with Reich as the Colts HC, they team fell apart, O-Line was bad, so many 'close' games. He leaves, and Colts are good now in contrast to before, yet somehow he drags those same issues to the Panthers, which on paper should be a better team. I think if Young ends up a Bust, he'll get fired and never get a job again.

I truly believe the Colts players quit on Reich, dude made so many poor decisions on game plan. If you guys get rid of him before Young is mentally ruined he will blossom Reich plans okay for Old QBs to hide their flaws but fails to be a developmental HC

Cj stroud has no wide receivers Anthony Richardson has no wide receivers, Bryce has looked like garbage the past 2 games, he’s our receivers suck but damn he is the number 1 overall pick if he can’t complete some passes to shitty receivers then he doesn’t deserve to be on the field, they are babying this guy with the play calling with with everything

@@jerryneely1993anthony richardson definitely has good receivers. Strouds may not be great but Nico Collins has REALLY stepped up and as shown on the statistic at 20:10 Stroud has more open receivers than quite a few teams. Nobody has stepped up as far as getting open on Carolina.

At least with Murray, he has elite athleticism and a good arm (drafted high in mlb as well). But even He was too much of a risk for early round 1; I have no idea how Bryce went that high being half the athlete Murray is.

Still missing Corbett he won’t back until week 5 I believe

​@BillyWitherspoon Ekonu is struggling. He seems to have regressed from last year. Then the drops are killing the team. There were at least 4 I counted in the Saints game of which 2 were first downs. The vets need to help out.

Are you seeing what you want to see or what is actually happening? Bryce Young never stood a chance at the NFL level.

They looked like trash, be worried cause he's already hurt.

With how lackluster the Panthers talents are on offense, it is really difficult even for the staff to set up an identity. Outside of trying let Bryce go above and beyond what he can on year 1. Like at least the other NFC South division rivals have WR1s like Mike Evans, Pitts/Drake London and Chris Olave who can beat their man 1v1 in most cases.

Aka he sucks

I agree on the receivers except the o line and the running game. We have miles sanders and our o line is missing two starters on the right snd left side

@@BigOlBoy008miles sanders ain’t doing nothing and being out performed by Chuba

Fact is he should never have been a 1st round pick..he's just not able to do it. But I do love seeing people who believe in him and defend him..makes it quite enjoyable watching his get totally destroyed..

​@@NorthIce22Toledo

cringe

​@@frankyherrera2670yeah bryce is pretty fucking cringe to watch 🤮

Bust

Or people with a vast knowledge of the history of short quarterbacks. Not that he can't improve but.... None of this speaks to him being a special player.

Already hurt, huge accuracy issues nobody is willing to admit, impossible to see his WR's downfield, can't outrun even the slowest of LB's or DL's.... guess Im a casual though. Its not like Anthony Richardson will be a HOFer and Bryce will be a backup in a year or two.......

Bust

Who did Kyler Murray have him around him his rookie year? NO ONE outside of 38YR old Fitz. And Murray still played at a fringe top 10 level as a rookie posting one of the best rookie seasons we’ve seen in the last 10-15yrs. Young has plenty of talent on that offense to operate, his game just doesn’t translate for multiple reasons

Who a better college quarterback Spencer or Sanders

@@stephonwilliams5232they are about the same in my opinion. Both behind williams and penix jr

@@GamingNoob9000nah you wrong dawg the white boi Quin ewer$ is the best qb in college football right now

@@stephonwilliams5232 yeah ewers is up there but i dont think hes better then caleb williams

You guys are forgetting about Bo Nix

but it's da wacism and coachingggggg LMFAO

Fields can't read defenses for shit, he's being exposed. Bad coaching don't mean you can't see an open WR 😂

@@Foreign84some of the things said about Justin Fields when he was a draft prospect “last one in the building, first one to leave.” I think Colin Cowherd is a hack but when he calls Justin Fields a RU-vid quarterback, he’s absolute right. He makes plays that are cool for RU-vid videos, but he can’t regularly move the chains or command the football field.

Did you even watch the video or the games?

@@samuelgilbert5527 yes, the number of throws he attempts over the middle is shockingly low for a pro-QB. Typically a pro QB will primarily work middle. Everything is hes throwing is short to the outside, easier throws to make.

@@_GloryHolz literally two games in, the saints game he didn't have alot of plays that went deep over the middle. It's hard to do that if the safeties are able to play shallow and the receivers drift back and not attack the football

Yes now point out to me which of the Panthers receivers are reliable targets to win constantly at the intermediate area. Especially in the rat ass situation they get Bryce passing in shotgun in 3rd and long with no reliable separators. I'll wait all season long for your answer.

He can barely see beyond his Oline lmao Thats why he looks like he hesitates passing but the fact is he's too small to see down the field

You'd think they'd have learned after Justin Fields

@@unc54Learning isn’t something they understand. Don’t you know they’re all GM’s and scouts?

So far they have been right.... So.. 😅

​@MrRobot-dr1ln they would be right if he had a career ending injury today. Dude still got a shitton of football to play, keep up

@@MR.ROBOTVOLTRONPeyton Manning threw almost 30 picks his first year and he turned out fine. It’s almost like Young is on a shit team.

If you watch the video he’s pretty much arguing for your point lol

Bro CJ Stroud is doing way better with a way worse situation, so lets not blame the WR's, they are NFL WR's and can catch good passes. CJ's situation 1. Rookie HC 2. Rookie OC 3. No legit #1 WR 4. No All-Pro LT(injury) 5. No 1st rd LG(injury) 6. No 1st rd RT(injury) 7. No 2nd rd C(injury) 8. No 2nd string C(injury) 9. Over 380 passing yards 10. Multiple passing TD's, even 1 called back

your tiny little baby boy qb is a joke. can't see over his lineman so why bother even running a route downfield. just gotta hang wide on the line of scrimmage and pray reich can call 100% screen plays with success..... AND he's already hurt. I though he would at least make it 3 games before getting crunched and he'd be on IR. Couldn't even make it 8 quarters of pro ball............

@@asacloutier7530 calm down, Drew Brees was short and elite, height definitely helps, but isn't the reason for his failing, its probably bc he isn't good enough for the NFL, time will tell.

@@MagikFingers420short height is a huge limitation. People name drop Drew Brees or Russell Wilson when people bring up height, but let’s not pretend that they weren’t total aberrations instead of the general rule. Short quarterbacks have to really invest hard into other skills to overcome it. Being a short quarterback means you can’t see the field the same way average QB height players can. You have to maneuver around the pocket a specific way to get that vision for a brief moment. It means your ball had a higher risk of being batted down. It’s a massive limitation that certain quarterbacks have had to learn to overcome. Not to mention, Bryce Young’s height isn’t even the totally most concerning thing. It’s his overall size. He’s a small guy. I like Bryce Young, but it’s hard to imagine he holds up to an NFL beating. At least Russ was thick, hence why he was so durable for a decade. Bryce Young is already starting to show those signs in terms of injury.

@@Gabriel2oh6 sorry but wrong, if Bryce cant see, then Brees couldnt see, and we all know he could see very well. Being short doesnt help, but isnt the reason for failure, let's get real. Just like CJ's smaller hands or bad S1 test result or whatever its called, and he still balls out. Everyone's got excuses, injured & bad oline, new HC, new OC, no name WRs, etc... ohh wait those are CJ's problems he is over coming.

that is clearly just not what happened. He did not expect the safety to rotate and his head was turned away from the safety after he started to come back to the ball. It was just a bad read. There are plenty of great throws over the middle of the field that he made that were shown in this video.

I don’t think his height has much to do with it Murray is one of the best passers in the league and he’s like a half inch taller than You g

Don't know if this is racist or if you saying he looks good but doesn't know how to play, both very idiotic statements

I mean to be fair, Dalton is a different qb, and most importantly is more experienced. In all honesty, Dalton works better for Frank Reich's offense than Bryce Young since he's much more conservative than Saban and the Alabama OC's

gonna see a lot of quick outs and curls to Thielen but I doubt he'll move any sort of needle. Dalton plays well in structure just like Bryce but as we've seen there is not much of a structure to play in. In those situations we've seen where Bryce makes something out of nothing Dalton with probably just be sacked. Only thing is Dalton won't have those rookie moments where he's up against a coverage he's never seen before and fails to recognize something like safeties rotating deep. He has that experience to play a competent game as he's been in the league for over a decade but I doubt he puts up some sort of game changing performance.

I sure as hell hope that Andy Dalton plays better as a 12 year vet than a 2 game rookie.

Why? The coaches can't throw the ball for him. They can't make him stay in the pocket or make his decisions for him. Bryce Young is a bust and that much is clear. In fact if he wins a game this year I would be astonished. Unlimited clips in this video of the coaches calling successful plays scheming the WRs open and because of Bryce's football IQ, he has no idea even what to do. He's not even confident in his own throwing abilities. I'll leave off with saying first impressions are everything. And if Bryce doesn't start clicking with his mechanics and IQ very very quickly, every defense is going to be coming after him like sharks in the water smelling blood. Because they know they're about to get some free stats that day.

​@@SUPERMA5TERts crazy how yall don't understand how development works. Rookie QBs aren't going to be good their rookie year. The exceptions are just that, exceptions. He still has to get used to NFL pace of the game and disguised coverages like any rookie qb. Look at Lawrence. Bad rookie year, but picked it up after getting some experience. Also what pocket? Panthers were already expected to have a poor o-line and now both starting guards are injured so there's plenty of times the pocket is already collapsing by the time Young finishes his drop back. Put on top of that almost no run game, one of the slowest WR cores that struggles to create separation(especially bad when the o-line isn't creating clean pockets for long) and its no wonder he's picking up some bad habits. Give him time to develop and let the org put some semblance of actual weapons around him before declaring him a bust 2 games in. Remember Peyton Manning went 3-13 his rookie year. Alex Smith threw 11 ints to 1 TD. Aikmen went 0-11. Bradshaw went 3-5 throwing 6 tds and 24 ints. Give him time and also a team

​@@SUPERMA5TER...what? did we even watch the same video? he has absolutely nothing a staggering amount of the time

​@@cheeseeygamer2997agree with your post for the most part except the bit about the OL. it was pretty solid last season, the problem lies in piss poor depth and Corbett being hurt which is terrible for us as he was very solid last year. Ekonwu still has his fair share of hiccups at LT, usually speed rush related. and our line is definitely more built for running the ball than pass pro but both guards being hurt gives little to no push up tye middle which tends to be a bit of an issue when Reich insists on sending Sanders up the gut every first down. His play calling through 2 has just been flat out atrocious, no way to sugar coat it.

The staff isn’t really all that.

Exactly. CJ is on the same position as Bryce when it comes to his team being mediocre and not a lot of help but theyre giving Bryce these excuses as pass. But CJ is doing great despite his bad team. It means he's legit and can use his weapons to the fullest even if he gets sacked every other play. lol

I was preaching to everyone after the Georgia game that cj was nfl ready and definitely the best in the draft.

We thank u for passing on CJ Stroud, he is a str8 baller!

I laughed and laughed and laughed and laughed when ya'll passed on RIchardson. Then I cried and cried and cried when the Colts got him and my Raiders didn't. Let this be a lesson to you to discern NFL plays in college tape. Bryce didn't have a single NFL play in his tape where Richardson ONLY had NFL plays in his tape. HUUUUGE difference. Bryce is throwing to receivers open by 25+ yards every damn play, the kid was playing easy football and nothing on his tape suggested he could work in the NFL to me. After reading this go watch Caleb's tape and tell me how many times he's making NFL calibur multi-read throws into windows that are 1-2 yards open at most - you will not find many of them.

@@asacloutier7530 Well I'm not a fan orf firichardson or running quarterbacks in general. He's got a concussion in the second game of his career that's not a good sign at all. I wish they would sit him and let minshew play then after he learns how to be a QB let him use his legs secondary. But he has some weapons around him. But at this point Rochardson might be better than Bryce. I like stroud the best out of this class.

@@MagikFingers420 Yup he looks like a NFL qb. If I'm trying up I'm getting him.

Bryce also didn’t have a true wr this past year. That wr room was the most inconsistent I’ve seen under Saban

Bryce young didn’t have a wr1 the past year. The alabama receivers were the worst group Saban has fielded. They weren’t “alabama open” like the other qbs had

No no no lol, if you are new to breaking down film don't listen to this video. 😂 watch "how to play zone defense & when to use cover 2, cover 3, or cover 4" Steve Spangnuolo, a very respected and current DC for the KC Chiefs, explains it properly.

His processing is great and he reads the field well with just a few misses or moments of hesitation across his first 2 starts. It looks a worse than it is because his receivers are legit not good and NFL defenses are showing coverages he's never seen before. There's nothing he's done that should have you worried in any significant way. The only issue would be if he's forced to develop bad tendencies because of his lack of a surrounding cast. And also he had to deal with shit like this a bit in his last year at Bama too because his OL and receivers were not very good. His leading receiver his last year at Bama was his running back.

Alabama was nowhere near loaded at OL or receiver this past year.

It just so happens that our only 2 problems are such big problems

Already is with 4 missing starters on his Oline in wk 2, including his AllPro LT.

seeing over his o-line def helps.

@@asacloutier7530 lmao savage

cause hes the 1st pick duh

Aint a bust but lawrence doesn't look top 10 cj already out dueled him this season as a rookie

Brother just didn’t watch the video I guess

uh oh! you mean the windows in the nfl are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay tighter than the SEC????????????? did you seriously think it would look like alabama ball where Bryce had 3 receivers all open by 15-20 yards??? Thats why college tape does not equal NFL calibur player. You have to discern the "NFL" plays from the college plays where he gets a positive play on a guy who will be selling cars in a year. Thats why Richardson's tape popped, everything he did was easily transferable to the NFL and you could tell even NFL player would struggle with him. All I saw on Bryce's tape was a tiny little baby boy qb who had the greatest support team around him ever assembled.

2 great defenses. Panthers and saints. 2 good ones: bucs and falcons

Definitely no Mahomes. Mahomes has a rocket arm. Is way more physically able as a person that would negate any negatives. Bryce Young has no tangible skills other than his brain about processing ability. To me? That spells bust.

worse than CJ Stroud's atrocious OL? I would say Bryce has a better surroundings than CJ. The only thing I think Bryce needs to learn is to protect himself. He's already injured.

I think CJ has it worse except maybe at WR. His entire offensive line is injured.

@@sonnyasu Nah I'd argue the Texans are better in many aspects. Their LT and their O-line has been ravaged with injuries but are probably better in pass pro. I'd argue Pierce is better than Sanders if he can get going. Texans got guys with speed or who can win 1v1 at times. Plus they got an OC who knows how to utilize all these pieces to get results. The Panthers offensive play calling aren't fooling any defenses with wack inside zone runs and throwing Bryce in shotgun in late passing downs.

No QB in the NFL successfully gets QB sneaks on the 'and 1' plays 100% of the time besides Jalen Hurts. There's plenty of other ways a team should be able to move the ball than do a QB sneak. Yea he's not 6'4 250 but there's only a handful of those guys in the league anyway. Other than that nitpick, his height disparity has not impeded his ability at all. The worry is the slender frame bc he's like 200 pounds so there may be injury concerns, but we have already seen he's more than capable of taking a hit. And we've already seen the big QB from his draft class also get injured so you can't really point to that as a huge issue. If he had a competent OL and run game those issues wouldn't exist for Bryce. His playmaking and creativity and great sense of timing and anticipation allow him to reduce the amount of times he gets hit as well. He's just suffering from receiver's that cannot get open and poor play calling and OL play. Besides that he's just adjusting to the advanced level of the NFL game as does every other rookie QB in their first 2 starts.

@@wardog211 That plus his height was clearly not an issue at Alabama playing behind dudes every bit as tall as NFL lineman.

Mainly bc they were already having success with Alex Smith

@@Archerforthelord People forget that Andy Reid did about as good a job as you could ask in setting his young QB up for success. Look at the offense Mahomes got to start with. Play-making weapons everywhere. Solid line, a great running back, an elite tight end, possibly the best WR in football. That's a dream scenario. If every young QB got to start with that offense we would probably have a lot fewer busts at QB.

There was talent on offense before Mahomes came through. Hell its the type of talent that let Mahomes beat how defense initially preyed on him: by blitzing him. Took Mahomes like 2-3 seasons reading those looks on late passing downs to fully punish them. Until the defenses realized they had to only rush 3-4 and put a roof on him to even try slow him down.