Kafatek MC5 vs DF83. | 71mm Shurikone vs 83mm Itamill burrs. 

Jack - enjoyed your content - especially focused on DF83. You up-sold me from DF64 to DF83 at 2x price - kind of a big deal. Really enjoy your detailed but coherent insights in such a well-conceived package. You have a skill and facility that falls well within the class of your well-known and respected peers. Keep up the great work!

I really learned to appreciate the contents of your videos Jack. You seem to have quite a good palate and easily verbalize the nuances, characteristics and differences between two cups, which is easier said than done ;) What I keep from this comparison is that both these grinders do great with roasts across the spectrum, for espresso. Seems the Shurikones actually do even better than just great! The MC5 may very well be the most versatile espresso grinder at the moment. Your DF83 videos have convinced me that it's the right grinder for me. Thanks 👍

Nice to watch you talking about MC5 again! 🙂I'll need to wait until May to try your experiment at home. Hopefully when my holiday in January finished I'll get the P100 delivery first.

You know it must be a Christmas miracle when Jack does a milk based drink 🤣 Flat Whites are my personal fav 😋

Amazing that the DF83 can compete with a grinder that is 4x the price of it. Once there are Ssp burrs in the DF83 it will be even closer.

Merry christmas Jack, after all the bad luck you had at the start of your youtube adventure, getting the DF83 for £600 is a great result. I am a bit jealous lol.👏👍😎🇬🇧

My DF83 funnel also rattles, it looks like they semi-thoughtfully included a silicon gasket on the funnel to prevent that from happening, however it's too tiny to actually do anything. Using the same funnel on a DF64, it doesn't seem to rattle, or not as much anyway, so it seems to vibrate less. So they just need to tweak the DF83 to vibrate less (Eureka somehow did it on the Oro Single Dose grinder) or even easier tweak the design of the silicon gasket on the funnel so it fits a bit more snug on a portafilter. My DF83 doesn't jump or slip around, you might want to clean the coffee grounds off your counter and wipe the feet with a damp cloth and it might fix that, unless 220v (you're in 220v land right?) DF83s just start with more Torque maybe.

"You can also put a hopper... but why would you!? " lol :D

I’m holding out on buying a df83 for when they come out with the ssp cast burrs. I’d buy one now and install later but i just can’t be bothered installing and aligning burrs later on lol

Hello! New to the channel. Thank you so much for this comparison. I am just wondering if Kafatek offers an MC5 that can handle commercial loads, motor and burr wise. Would you know anything about this? Additionally, if you ever pick up the SSP HU burrs for the DF83, I'd love to know how they compare to the Kafatek. Check out the Timemore Sculptor 078. I am receiving one in a few days and I am very excited for its pourover output. Lastly, if you like handgrinding for your pourover, please consider picking up the 1Zpresso Zp6. I promise you it is the best conical burr handgrinder for pourover if you are looking for a more unimodal grind distribution. I would say it is 5-10% better than C40, and 64mm SSP Brew Burrs v1 (original version of the MP with slightly lower fines) is around 5% better than Zp6. If you have any friends in Taiwan, it is only around $150 compared to $199 internationally (though I think the $199 comes with shipping?).

Hello jack , is there any video how to use DF64 and how to attach every piece for the first time after opening ?

Hey Jack, Just a quick question. What made you pick the mc5 over the max? I know the max is designed for light roast mainly, how do you find the mc5 with different roasts and is the shots more traditional or modern?

This makes me happy that I preordered an MC5! 😅

Could you please make a video on comparing Df83 HU with MC 5?? Please🙏🙏

Have you tried using the DF83 without using the bellows? Seems like low enough retention that you don't 'need' to. I've been meaning to try it that way and see if there's any issues, like clogging up or inconsistent doses but haven't gotten around to it, maybe just too used to pumping the bellows :D

After I got VBM Domabar Super with pressure profiling was thinking of upgrading my Specialita 55 with SD mode. Was looking for a big conical burr grinder with low or adjustable RPM. Are there any good options under 1k-1,5k? Only found MACAP m7d. Only drink espresso made drinks, cappuccino in the morning and Americano after lounch. What grinder would you recommend? Besides mentioned 83mm version of df64v with lab sweet burrs might be interesting.

MC5 vs DF83 with ssp burrs please

Try 83mm SSP HU, and later, the Lab Sweet / Cast Burrs. See if it helps?