Should You Upgrade Your Grinder Burrs? 

Subtle but obvious. Same issue here.

Knitwear is dumb, tbh

@@Mukawakadoodoo Are you high? Woolen sweaters are essential wear during 3 out of 4 seasons in the temperate zone. Nothing comes close.

@@FantasticOtto eh, depends on where you are on the world.

The Salmon Pink variant is particularly fetching! A definite babe magnet. I assume he is also wearing sandals with white socks...pulled-up of course!

Eagle eyes Dilan lol

It's rightful place ngl.

I would do the same just for the meme factor

Bripe gonna bripe

Hello fellow Bripers

why is this so funny haha

😂😂😂

😅🤣

E61 deathmatch?!?

$1000~ish machine showdown

@@jseitz792 That profitec Pro 700 on the far right is $3000

I think he mentioned doing a video about the E61 a while ago, those seem to all be E61 grouphead machines, so I guess that's it.

@@Dpmcalexander got it! I’m in his Patreon and that’s the next showdown he’s doing, but I got the price wrong. It’s 1,500/1,600 GBP, roughly $2k and change. So maybe he’s taking in the Profitec for fun

brb, gonna liquid cool and add 100KW of RGB

Planned obsolescence has entered.the chat.

He does it so you don't have to

he also says that he wouldn't recommend steaming your eggs.

It is definitely not humless!

@@TheRybka30 😳

@@TheRybka30 🤣🤣🤣🙃😇🤣

@@TheRybka30 LOL 😂

since you mention it, what if it DOES smell like burnt electronics - but still works fine?

@@fmbz858 Then it's probably just a matter of time. What is probably happening is that the heat is breaking down the epoxy lacquer on the motor winding and once that is broken down, you'll get a short circuit in it and then it's goodbye, unfortunately.

@@_TraMor 🤣

I know you wrote this quite a while ago but those who repair things are getting harder to find. I used to be able to get my hair straightener and blow dryers of good quality repaired at our beauty supply store in Manhattan until it closed down and now you just pray things last until they break 🥹

@@sloperaly I also know you have written this a while ago but I agree with you. It is one reason why I am now trying to just repair it myself and sometimes even frankenstein stuff. It works most of the time but not all the time, especially depending on the kind of machine. Some machines are quite repairable because they are structured modulairly and the manufacturer offers replacement parts to buy, others are uniform to the point that you'd need a heatgun and a soddering iron to do anything. Best thing to do is just informing yourself beforehand. :/

works with the hair and glasses

I wish he had teased it in the title and intro, seeing today's date

I'm kind of happy he didn't upload an Aeropress video on 1st of April. It could've been the worst for us.

He said it's scheduled to drop sometime in April IIRC from a Q/A.

In the mean time, Sprometheus has done some to fill the void.

I like that dedication

Hello neighbour. The same for me. Five months ago. This week I have consumed my first 100-pack of V60 filters. My new coffee grinder should come any day...... Ooops. I no longer think I can call myself a non-coffee drinker.

Ha, i know the feel. For me it‘s Terrarium videos. Can watch them all day, have nothing to do with Terrariums.

Markku Hänninen there are some coffees that taste more like tea but are still delicious. Maybe just go to your local coffee shop and ask for a "coffee for non-coffee-drinkers" and hopefully you will be positively surprised :)

@@maxschmidt666 I think i'm good without another addiction ;D

Too late to become a qualifying Patrion ? 🤪

I see my machine back there, I'm both excited and afraid lmao

Throughout the entire video I’m like James can you scoot over to your right. Just a bit so I can see what’s in the background...😂

I see my machine in the back 3rd to last.

The far right machine is the Decent, I think - and it is not def not sub 1500. But the rest are near that range, so...🤔

Sadly, he didn't find out it was bad, he guessed it. He guessed wisely, in my opinion, but has no idea on the real consequences ... Yes, it might harm the motor. Yes, it might shorten its lifespan. And yes, maybe Ode is shooting itself in the foot for selling the SSP burrs. But maybe not, and maybe the motor is strong enough to handle it for years without any troubles ... I totally agree on the idea, but he is a bit "too" cautious on a topic he knows almost nothing about. If Ode is selling the burrs ... you know ... probably they know better than you and I ? Anyway, still a pleasure to watch and learn from the man :)

@@LaurentVanderdonck Agreed. Ode definitely seems to have targeted their whole ethos towards unpressurised coffee, and I expect they sell the burrs because they found in their testing that they could get as good a wholesale price from SSP as they would have from their OEM for a burr that provides a better coffee. Their primary audience, being non-espresso, don't need to push the grind fine enough to cause issues. They may have to validate the burrs with the device longer to know whether they can sign off on it with confidence for espresso levels. My grinder is one of the ones covered in the "do not buy these shitty 50$ grinders" episode (it's the Melitta)* and it's a total bear to disassemble and clean properly, but it does have the capacity to be calibrated as to how fine the finest setting is when you reassemble it, I expect the Ode must as well. I think the drift on the Wilfa is the bigger problem because it can potentially lead to a crash, and then replacing a tired motor will be the least of your worries. *in case anyone reading is casually curious, it appears to use the same format of three screw flat burr as shown in this video. But if anyone reading that is wondering if that means it's a burr upgrade away from being respectable you should know that ours has been electrically unreliable and has a severe static problem and can hold about a tablespoon of coffee in various nooks and crannies and it can start to grow mold unless you do a complete teardown. Also, the spout into the catchcan is weirdly shaped and restrictive and also manages to spray a non zero quantity out into the general area.

I guess the real question is how will Fellow deal with it, and their V2 burr set what will that be like.

@@LaurentVanderdonck My initial interpretation is not that Fellow “knows better”, but that people were doing it and Fellow saw that they were missing out on a potential revenue stream. Now, people will buy the burrs from them and they get those profits.

@@LaurentVanderdonck or maybe Ode know their motor will last the warranty period, period.

Or some great foreshadowing...?

SO MUCH THIS. I was going to say the same thing.

badam tiss 🥁

James has posted on Twitter before about specialty tea but if you go through the QnAs iirc he said that he can only have so many fixations

A better April fools video would be to have a clickbait aeropress video but it's just him smiling

@@JoshuaGeow good one! I was actually expecting a weird video content for today!

@@JoshuaGeow or a click bait video of him dancing to Never Gonna Give You Up. 🧐

A colab with The Spiffing Brit

I came here to say this. It would have been the ultimate troll!

The April fools joke is there is no aeropress recipe

That was the question i was thinking!

My guess is that both videos were ready and then he had to re-edit this one at the last minute, so he released the Bripe video early instead.

Same, over here with a $12 no brand hand grinder

@@emilegoguely4032 😅

True. My goto bedtime story yt channels in terms of safe content and relaxing voice are this and lock picking lawyer.

@@iamthearmul oh yes, those two are awesome 😍

He should do a nature documentary for bbc he has the perfect voice for it

I had a dream that a tiger came into my room and went to sleep. I went to pet it, pat it, whatever, but it wouldn’t wake up. But everyone else was terrified of it.

There was also something about Zendaya, but I don’t remember now

Hm. Not so strange. Maybe subtly you crave some novelty in coffees. Some people drink green coffee bean "tea". It's very herbal.

@@razgvozd Oh yeah I love novelty in coffee. I've been looking for the "secrets" of good coffee brewing for a while now. I also remember hearing about green coffee for the first time and being really interested about it.

This! So much this!

James is missing a market - he should read the phone book and sell the recording as an insomnia aid. Such a calming, soothing voice.

@@stevenswann3254 sometimes when I'm feeling sad I just watch the short intro to his smart scales review video a few times and all my problems seem to disappear

@@kevinromaindrums I hadn't seen that video before, and just looked it up on your recommendation. That intro is hilarious. Looking forward to watching the whole thing. Thanks for the heads up!

Check out Hames Joffman, legend

I just got a new set of burrs for my Baratza Preciso (now discontinued) for about $35, if I remember correctly. First burrs lasted at least 10 years. I only noticed worn burrs when I was getting my La Pavoni ready for a party, and the Preciso couldn’t do the very fine espresso grinds anymore. After a recalibration to the maximum setting it was just fine enough generally, but not always. So new burrs in 2023! I’ll probably never own another grinder since Baratza sells all the replacement parts.

Nerdvana! 👍

I just chew the beans until they're a good size and then I make my coffee

you can get grindr for free on the app store

I just use the one at the store

The dude started with grass roots in sight. Seems like he has left us adrift. I actually liked the crusienart burr grinder, what ya rockin?

@@normalrings5659 I just eat them, I can't trust my self with grinding them.

I saw it too. I really hope he is working on a review

Specialita is cheaper, and better due to the flat burrs. But does have some retention, nothing too bad though. Both are nice quiet grinders. Oh the hopper on the specialita sucks, but there's plenty of single dosing hoppers / mods you can do.

@@BensCoffeeRants i know, i have specialite for few months now. I dint mid hopper, but what i dont like is grind adjustment. Even rhough its small steps, i find it too copllex for switching from turkish, espreso... pourover, frenchpress

we've given him too much power smh

I feel like his aeropress video is going to have 30 min +

@@joaopcoutinho oh, at least.

I doubt he's ever doing an aeropress vid. There's so many aeropress videos out there, they've been done to death. James does have videos on making espresso without machines and even has reviews of similar devices where he compares them. The thing I like about this channel is that he tackles subjects that most people don't even consider. Aftermarket burrs causing enough friction to change the setting? new. Donut coffee and briping? ok. Another aeropress video where he either spends an hour telling you everything you can learn from a few minutes of searching, or he spends 5 minutes giving a basic demo that you could have found on the aeropress website... What does James have to gain by doing a video on it?

@@JC-fj7oo James has stated repeatedly that he is working on the aeropress video... I’m pretty sure one day he’s going to make it. Especially because he has a series of videos teaching how to work with all the methods. And I disagree with your point, I don’t think there is a video covering the several different techniques and comparing them, showing how each variable possible affects the taste and texture of the final cup.

I don't even have a grinder. But I'm ordering SSP burrs just in case.

@@sprucemaroose 🤣🤣🤣😘

Me too sadly, I am wanting to get some coffee equipment and maybe trying to find the best brand for me

I don’t even like coffee

@@davidbreault3283 Get a clever dripper and a timemore c2, thats a starter kit that will last you a long time :)

@@hugensmugen no it won't, you'll make delicious coffee, but you'll think "hmmm, let's just get a V60" then a kalita, then a mote fancy dripper, maybe want to try the difference between between the clever and the hario switch.... Then you want an electric grinder and of course the fancy pouring kettles, then Hoffmann finally release his aeropress video and you of course need that too, then you delve into the filter paper rabbit hole and spend way too much time and money testing every type of V60 paper you can find...... Then you find espresso..... Oh god the espresso..... Oh no..... Yes this is projection, send help, at once, I am drowning in drippers, I did not need 4 espresso machines, MY NICHE IS GOOD ENOUGH STOOOP IT, NO DON'T BUY THE EG-1!!!

@@doc8125 same but with safety razor shaving, got about 12 kinds of blades, 5 razors, 4 brushes and all that with a broke student's money

I would really love to see that as well. With the NZ almost never in stock, the G-iota could be a great alternative. The question of course: how reliable can a grinder coming from a random factory in China be?

@@sebdhaese according to initial reviews, it's well engineered and well built, no corners cut on assembly (not even on soldering). Personally I don't worry about Chinese manufacture, they've significantly improved their quality, most products we buy are now made by factories unknown to us anyway.

For $35, it's a worthy upgrade. No voiding warranties, etc. Baratza will sell it to you and help you (via email, pdfs and videos) set it up. I did it to two different Encores and was able to do both via the vise-grip method w/o disassembling the unit (long and tedious method). Do protect or remove the plastic ring with the dial settings before striking the vise-grip as described by Baratza to avoid gouging the plastic--merely cosmetic--but still. Fewer fines and slightly faster grinder time. It's a win. I'm only using it from say 10-30 on the grind dial. I'm not attempting espresso. Baratza recommends the ring burr (same for M2 and M3 burr sets) be changed too if it was previously used. That adds another $15 to the cost. Grind settings for the Encore and Virtuoso+ are the same and thus unchanged by the mod. I've found that to be largely true.

That’s what I thought this would be about at first as well but I guess that’s a little different since it’s other Baratza burrs and it’s a recommendation they themselves make? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I was hoping for this as well, since it's both likely the most common grinder out there, and this upgrade one of the most common ones actually made.

At ~$45 with shipping, the M2 burr upgrade is 100% worth it. Still will not grind espresso constantly but, has improved my brews until it is time for the next upgrade...

I just did that upgrade this past weekend! It speeds the Encore's grinding up tremendously and has nice uniformity.

@@ChrisBlaze78 the upgrade in Canada, after customs, shipping, and fx, is closer to $90. Still bought it myself.

Isn't there any way to tighten the grind setting mechanism?

Are you still able to grind espresso fine with the upgraded burrs? And exactly what model and make of upgraded burrs did you install?

My wilfa's settings started slipping even in base configuration. I've able to fix this by unwinding the burr part and just wipe a little bit of machine oil from the top part's notches and pogo pins on the main unit with the paper towel. Basically, this stiffens the grind adjustment mechanism and prevents slippage. Just don't wipe it too much, it still needs a bit of lube to be there.

Looks like it and the Mara X which I am struggling to choose between so I hope he does a review soon.

Lance Hedrick reviewed a grinder a while back that had burrs with threads in the back instead of inside the blades, and he liked it a lot. Honestly it does make more sense design wise, and every time I see grinders with massive screw holes in the middle, it makes me glad I put my money into a good hand grinder instead. Just feel like it gives you less retention and more consistency just flipping the screws around

I am so sick of grinding coffee with my Hario Skerton that I just don't bother any more. I actually did the reverse of gadget inflation. I used to own a Gaggia Classic with an MDF grinder. But I got sick of cleaning it and the damn dosing mechanism on the grinder. So I sold it and bought an aeropress and Hario Skerton and still ordered the nice coffee. Then I got tired of hand grinding coffee so I stopped that. Then I thought why bother with the nice coffee if you're buying it pre-ground, so I downgraded to supermarket coffee, which is (for me) too coarse for the aeropress. So I gave up on the aeropress and I'm now using a cheapo Sainsbury's cafetiere. It's kind of zen, but I'm sure I'll fall off the wagon eventually.

Think it's his office. He's said previously that he doesn't do home espresso

@Jon Woo he has said previously that he uses a Sage/Breville Precision filter brewer at home: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HfkdkZRv6Mc.html

The single dose grinder in this video costs abt 420 usd stock which is similar to the eureka lineup

definitely single dose grinders will gain alot of attention, i heard somewhere Eureka are working on a unique single dose grinder.

Absolutely they will with the popularity of the Niche Zero

And, there are the countless stories about how to turn free sand into $4,000 chips (XEON, ThreadRipper, etc).

@@PortlandSkyline .. It's a little complicated to grow those pure silicon crystals. That said, they're not even building the stuff they're just outsourcing it.

@@DJaquithFL Yes, it is very complicated. But the original materials are silicon crystals mined by the ton. And, the industry had to change when the art & science of pure silicon ingot formation got more and more divergent from creating the multi-billion transistor chip complexes. However, making a great hard steel anymore can be very complex! Take powder metallurgy stainless steels that are so exotic that they meld 6192F Tungsten with ordinary stainless steel that melts between 2600-2800F. Some of these exotic steels would make great burrs since they can be hardened to over 62 Rockwell! They could even be used to make fine grind coconut shell powder.

@@PortlandSkyline .. They literally emailed a CNC drawing to some CNC shop in Switzerland and that's only after simply copying exact size measurements, just like the Chinese do, of OEM grinder burrs .. and then putting their own burr design. Yes no different than growing silicon crystals and designing a CPU. Six of one half a dozen of another.

I got a stock vario, I prefer it to the Niche Zero. So it's better already. Planning on doing the Hyper Alignment thing soon though.

But here’s the thing: you can get awesome grinders on sale for $50-100 and the French press is a French press for the most part :-) You can have phenomenal coffee for under $100 including beans.

I would love to see a review of the Eureka Mignon as well. Niche has been unavailable in the entire world for the past 6 months and will remain so for the foreseeable future, Eureka Mignon appears to be the only real contender in the around 500USD range in the USA and I suspect most of North America. I've been in the market for this for the last half year myself. It's frustrating how all the reviews of Mignon are either from amateurs (not enough comparative knowledge) or salesmen (conflict of interest).

@@deanmoriarty3565 I’m sick of waiting for a Niche and still not convinced on the looks personally. Pretty close to pulling the trigger on the Mignon XL instead.

I saw the Eureka Mignon too. I really hope he is working on a review

Keep watching this channel and undoubtedly you will...

Did they ever update it

You can purchase the ode directly from fellow with ssp burrs .

You don't have to, but you can if you want. You can get better tires than the ones that come with your car, it doesn't mean your car was defective. SSP burrs are pretty pricey so it would raise the cost a good amount if grinders came with them.

Hi, are you still using the Uniform with the SSP burs? Do you consider it a worthwhile upgrade?

Do you think the Mazzers are still worthwhile? I've considered upgrading from my Baratza Virtuoso -- it's still a good grinder, but I'd like to pass it on someone else. I recall Mazzers being all the rage back in the day, so I had considered a Super Jolly or a Major, but I'm unsure if they're just behind the field these days.

@@irresponsiblyblue1411 They are still good value for the money, if you can get a used one and put a decent new burr set. Like I said, SSP unimodal burrs is what I use for any kind of brew. These grinders have standard burr set diameters, powerful motors and build quality that makes them extremely long lasting. One other downside: with espresso setting (which is also tricky to adjust by rotating it just 1-2 millimeters for 4-6 seconds difference) there is a significant retention in the shaft (1-1.5g). Easy to pull out, but annoys a lot. This would be my main reason to upgrade, tbh.

lol, awsome , thanks for the response ! and I got the tip !

I had a conversation with Hansung (SSP) and Frank (Titus) and neither said it should make any difference in the cup, but it will effect, heat, retention, static & longevity of the burrs. .

@@mikni4069 Thank you Mikkel, I guess you could pick just the color you like, correct?

@@pack.katisomsakul Yes... but be aware some are more prone to static and retention. Zirconiumnitrid should have some of the better properties in regards to this, redspeed is however widely used and easy to get your hands on, most ssp is coated with that and is fine although I don’t find it perfect in regards to retention and static.

I’m one of them:(

I feel you. Some day we will be able to afford all of this.

That $50 grinder will do an adequate job for as many years as you can stand using it. I went all out and spent closer to $200 for an absolute top of the line hand grinder, and will likely never change.

I had a Hario slim grinder, worked decent, catch bin would fall off. Mainly got it cuz it was quieter than my electric grinder. Get what you can afford and upgrade when you can. Have fun along the way.

@@2TrainJones I also still use the cheaper grinder I had first. I just use the more expensive grinder to get better espresso. I use the other grinder for everything else.