There’s equal blame here. Kingy’s been directly critical and zeroed in on JHF, and Kane’s been antagonistic and trolling fans that are coming from the criticisms lol
Well to be fair Jason Horne Francis didn’t like being at North Melbourne having a go at a teammate and not working hard enough no wonder why people boo him
@@kevsmagpies1306 bit weird though that people from other teams boo him. I mean booing is a bit weird anyway. Booing someone for something that is unrelated to the game you're watching or you're club is even weirder. I mean Jordan DeGoey is a sex pest, nobody boos him. Taryn Thomas is also a pest no booking. But people are booing Horn Francis because he left another club, lolz that's weird.
@@kevsmagpies1306 I barely know what a hash tag is and wouldn't boo someone because Kane Cornes said too. Lol. I mean that is even more rediculous to me.
Kingy was definitely wrong to say that it "all started with Kane." I'm pretty sure that people boo JHF because they think he's a sook - because of people like Kingy
Kane Cornes was talking about Horne Francis and he can’t accept it Ken Hinkley should shut up because it was last year the way he handled the situation
I'd call that a 0-0 draw. Although it's interesting how Kane doesn't seem to comprehend how he is viewed in the media and how his profile can drastically influence the severity of a response from opposition fans.
I think both have good points but as soon as Kane said he wasn't trolling when he says #icebath it was clear that he couldn't concede. It's a clear troll.
They both have done shit but Kane is not open to the idea that he is partly to blame at all. I remember from memory that it all started with Kane having a go cause I agreed with him at the time. I've got no dog on this fight but I remember Kane firmly as the beginning of this.
Cornes was ABSOLUTELY a key protagonist in all of this, no question. His attempt to rewrite history is pretty lame. At the time of his criticisms he had no idea JHF would end up at PA and he went hard at the kid. I, too, agreed with him. I definitely DON'T agree with booing him every time he goes near the ball, though.
I took from this that Kane is admitting he is partly to blame, to me it seems like Kingy us saying he is 99% to blame. Kane seems open to admit he is partly to blame.
@@travistravis7190 He certainly wasn't the other night on Footy Classified. And although he gave a weak recognition of his share he then kept blaming others much more. JHF said he wanted the extra attention of being the number one pick. I don't like the booing but he has a part to play in it, as do others.
@@jaredburgess8381 things ive heard in media from JHF is him stating he wants to be the best player in the league, saying that as a 19 year old, JHF I believe has more a contributor to the scrutiny than literally any other party involved. I'd boo the guy too if I was at the game....just for the fun of it. Nothing against him...hes probably a great lad
AFL is a billion dollar industry. Players paid to play, media paid to analyse. It's not suburban footy. If you can't handle getting booed or being criticized in media, go get a 9 to 5
It's also weird how strange and angry football fans are. I went to Hawks vs Cats with a mate. The guys behind us just yelled and berated every player - on their own team! Cats have just won a flag and smacked the Hawks by 80odd and these guys just sat there and whinged and abused and sooked. And they're not outliers. That's the norm. The football is a funny, angry place a lot of the time. Booing a player who left a club that's not yours says more about you and how much of a sad pathetic loser you are than anything else.
JHF said before the draft he wanted the added attention which would come with being the number one pick, he said before playing a game he wanted to be the best player in the AFL, he didn’t carry himself professionally at North, and made the decision to leave knowing the level of scrutiny that would bring onto him. he can’t then have others come out publicly and demand it stop immediately, just because of his age. Kane and King may have some part to play in all of this, but most of it lies with Jason himself, and there’s only one way he’s going to get the footy public back on side, by actually playing good football, consistently, and maybe being humble about it in the process.
You know before port beat the bulldogs last round I never really heard Horne Francis speak publicly and he actually sounded like a good lad to me. Just played a match winning performance. Was thrilled about it. I just got the impression of a young man that just wants to be a really good footballer. If there was a slightly unprofessional side to him at North I mean jeez he never did anything that was really bad at all. He won't get away with bad attitude or things like that at Port anyway. How good was kingy and cornes going at it about it lol. So good.
Was Ken making those comments after the Collingwood, Adelaide, or Sydney games? No therefore it clearly either bothers the club, the player, or both enough for Ken to speak on Jason’s behalf. Now in Ken’s own words let the kid play, and let the fans express their view of him.
But everyone makes a point of commenting on every post he is in that he is irrelevant. So how can someone so irrelevant influence so many people? Plus if 65 thousand are influenced into booing by a hashtag, how weak minded are they?
As someone who used to do a bit of radio, it's the biggest rule in radio broadcasting; DON'T SPEAK OVER THE OTHER PERSON! He would have known that it sounds so messy with two people speaking...
I love footy and follow it wherever I can, I never even knew there was some hashtag bath commentry lol. I don't think thousands of people even know what either of these two post on...they living in their own worlds. Listening to this, I am with Kane
When it's causing him more pain why should he? He had to have surgery on both his legs to decompress his arteries and increase blood flow. Remind me again don't ice baths constrict the arteries and decrease blood flow?
so after this, if JFH continually cops the treatment he has been, cornes has no1 to blame but himself.. absolute child. i cant believe Im siding with Kingy.. #cancelkanekornes
Since he retired from footy, Kane makes a living out of making comments that are often accurate, but at times ludicrous. Kingy can appear arrogant and dismissive, but he always backs up what he says with evidence. He is the unquestionably the smartest analyser in the game and he owned the underprepared Kane several times here.
Kane wanted to argue about if its reasonable to declare that he was the catalyst for 65K non-North Melbourne fans to boo JHF and instead David was never going to be happy unless Kane was humiliated into submission. Kingy played the man a lot and the more he got angry and emotional the less he listened and then responded to what Kane was actually saying. I don't think David King once conceeded that there was some merit to Kane's points and point of view on the situation. Kane's pot shot about "Kingy's grand final" was also cheap. I think King would've punched KC if they were in the studio together. Will they be friends after this in the future? I can't imagine ever throwing a colleague under the bus the way Kingy threw Cornes.... pretty dick move - especially if you haven't let him know first.
King, you rubbished Brad Scott in his last couple of weeks at the Roos saying he wasn't committed. Look at what he's doing at Essendon this year. Look at the Roos....
good on ya kingy, clearly footy classifieds made those comments sound like kingy was talking about JHF as a port player. typical garbage from ch9 and if ken was so worried about it why did he not speak up last year when he wasn't a port player.
Both of these guys played at the top level, both tasted success, both know how much of a honour it was to be able to represent a club at the top level. Can someone please explain to me why these two (especially Kane Cornes) why Jason Horne-Francis only showed this from the night he was drafted up until his second game (round 2 2022)? After that game, week after week he showed less & less effort. He begun arguing with teammates, wouldn’t follow end of game protocols, show up late to training, show less respect week after week, crack the shits for being dropped to the VFL, then tell the club who gave him everything he wanted that he wants to go home. With all of this, how can they not that mad footy fans are not going to respect this kid? Us footy fans do not like watching players who do nothing but sook, whine & complain showing minimal effort. Nothing but facts
haha to be honest I don't care about Port or Norf.... but Cornes is absolutely 100% responsible for this. He is trying to pretend he had nothing to do with it but the guy constantly trolls people about the fact Port got him. I mean I have barely watching this Horne-Francis kid and I hope he fails just to shut Cornes up.
Really enjoyed the conversation gentlemen! However David's call " you'll start arguing with fools"! Nailed it David, he's arguing with you! PS to get some true objectively let's ask Brad Scott a bloke of true integrity what he thinks of King
It’s clear that this was building for sometime. For months I’ve thought that these two don’t like each other now it’s come clear. No chemistry, little digs at each other. Best that this stops before it gets toxic
Kane editing old recorded comments and makoing it look like it was said this year, is nothing short of what this guy gets upto to make a point - he's been called out and shown he's a low level operator - David King is 100% on the money here. Screw you Kane ..... If JHF didn't have a port Jumper on you wouldn't hear from him.
If Kane continues to antagonistic people then don't cry when they bring it back in the form of booing. It's simple. He said he will continue to troll north fans so expect north AND neutral fans tonl troll his golden boy! Can't throw a punch and then cry when one gets thrown back.
what’s funny is that Kane is actually taking responsibility, whereas king- in the pursuit of trying to pin the irrational blame on Kane is merely obfuscating everything he says, clearly just wants to blend in with the crowd and go with the safest route of making Kane the villain, which is a popular narrative for AFL media consumers. Even this comment section laps it up ahahaha. Absolutely no critical thought. Big man Kingy needs to do some liver cleansing get the lead out of his system. Get his hormones straight. Onya Kane
So Kingy was originally trying to distance himself and act like he had nothing to do with it. He then try’s to flip the argument to state Kane was arguing that. Kane repeatedly said he did contribute along with others, he just wasn’t copping that it was purely the hashtag, which of course it wasn’t. Telling everyone the audio from Classified was radio, dodgy. For me both just as culpable but Kane willing to stand by his comments while King tried to stay popular at Kanes expense. Top bloke 👍
No he didn’t it was last year and Cornes did mention the ice bath and fans deserve to boo Horne Francis. When you get ahead of yourself and think your better when you’re not then listen to your teammates
I don't need to listen to this, but if you can tell me who's gonna win the Blues / Saints game.....then I'm in. QUESTION.......Has hypnotherapy been used at club level for certain individuals....and/or could it be an option???? I have a few names that may benefit.
Give it away, Kingy. Enough is enough. No way were the negative views started by Kane. Accept some blame yourself instead of just wanting to dominate the conversation. I hope this is the end to this rubbish.
Was surprised by the booing and don’t really agree with it but… I think this is the fans saying they don’t want #1 picks leaving after 1 year and hurting their clubs - think the afl needs to stop this from happening or give their fans voice in other ways
It's not hypocrisy Kane, it's a direct comparison of you doing similar at a similar time, and then you try to take Umbridge. Never took issue with what King said when he was in a North Melbourne jumper. FTR I think it's shit form to boo JHF, and these two are both flogs.
Who cares who started it and who was a bigger part. The point is they both contributed towards the issue and as key figures and speakers for AFL they should simply apologise for their part and encourage people to change their behaviour around the JHF issue. Rather than care more about who’s to blame.
5:16 Ok Kingy reckons the Kangaroo supporters are giving JHF a hard time to get back at Kane Cornes 🤦🏻♂️That comment sums up the NMFC 🤦🏻♂️Welcome Home JHF❤️PAFC❤️
Why do they keep bringing up the Collingwood fans booing him, didn’t have to do with leaving North. He was booed 2 times and it was because of the free kicks he gave away towards Taylor Adam’s. 🤦🏻♂️
JHF was trying to rough up Tay in round 2. Fans were booing JHF because his conduct was unnecessary in the context. Best of luck for JHF. He looks a player and will have a great career.
This is a Melbourne [city] thing because as a Crows supporter i have absolutely no reason to boo Francis more than any other Port player. It does feel a bit like the VFL vs the rest of us.
It’s not often I agree with Kane Cornes Kane lists about 5 things that have contributed to the drama King: “I’m not interested in any of those things” Then what’s the point of the conversation if you’re just going to dismiss everything Corne says? 😂 King is so dim
Kane cornes is the mouth piece for Port Cornes started all this last yr as he wanted to get jhf back to Adelaide There's no problems doing that but port, JHF and Cornes need to take responsibility for wanting to go back and deal with the repercussions Of course north fanbase would be pissed they lost their first pick Probably shows both king and cornes don't have the objectivity and capability to talk about their old teams
please. King keeps saying "you started it, you lit the fire", just scrambling, Kane says yes yes were all involved. King points out Horne Francis almost every game. apparently no other port player has any deficiencies. so many worst players but JHF gets a whole few minutes with clips from king.
So wrong. His only comment this year was when he didn't chase - and a number of journalists made the same comment. He also praised him after his game in Rd 1 and the game last week. He also commented how all of the young Port mids had to step up, not just JHF. That's basically it. Don't worry about facts though 🤣Kane never asked himself why JHF gets booed against other teams? He can't think of any reason? Really?
I’m a port supporter and Jesus Christ, talk about making something out of nothing. Player gets booed, media goes absolutely apeshit and won’t stop talking about it. This was barely a talking point to begin with, just leave it alone already
JHF was always going home. It's a disgrace that Cornes blames Nth supporters where at the last game booing. Really. All Victorian clubs will boo him for they know of his behaviors to get out.
It’s a tv show??? Kane, tv , radio and twitter are all types of media, so of course your edit of what David king said (last year I might add), will be replayed dozens of times
King trying to whitewash Norf from the whole thing is a joke by handballing all to Cornes. At the end of the day the people who are booing are the problem. Handbags at 10 paces is pretty funny though.