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Karate is wrestling- upward block: an amazing grappling technique! age-uke bunkai 

Ramsey Dewey
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The age-uke, upward block, ot rising block is one of the first techniques taught in all karate forms as well as karate-based Korean martial arts like taekwondo and tang soo do… and yet almost nobody has a good explanation of how to use this technique in a fight (at least an explanation that isn’t ridiculous).
But here it is: the way I use the rising block for MMA, wrestling, and submission grappling. But wait! There’s more! While filming this video, I learned several more practical applications for the upward block. It’s a much, much better technique than I previously thought.
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Ramsey Dewey is a retired pro fighter, combat sports coach, referee, and fight commentator… and occasional musician based in Shanghai, China.
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I fought professionally in Mixed Martial arts, Sanda, Muay Thai, K1 and American kickboxing from 2004-2011 when I was forced to retire due to a broken skull and being blinded in one eye. I hold a brown belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, Black belts in multiple traditional martial arts, including Taekwondo and kyokushin karate. I also train in catch wrestling, sambo, taijiquan, judo, and boxing.
I currently coach at the Animal MMA gym, the Extreme Fight Lab, and the Mordor Fight Club, all in Shanghai, China.

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@Annokh
@Annokh Год назад
Jesse Enkamp: "Everything is karate!" Ramsey Dewey: "Everything is grappling. Including karate."
@RamseyDewey
@RamseyDewey Год назад
Hahahaha! True!
@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed
Everything is Greek .. without the Greek none of this would be.
@EgoCZ
@EgoCZ Год назад
@@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed Wrestling was in all cultures
@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed
@@EgoCZ when you find me a group of aborigines that know how to technically strike grapple do submissions and use weapons, i will believe the nonsense You are spewing
@HarryTzianakisTheGodOfSpeed
@@EgoCZ Pankration is the first MMA of the planet. Karate was invented by the Minoans. No knuckle dragging Neanderthals knew how to technically strike grapple and do submissions till the Greeks showed them.
@raylantz5144
@raylantz5144 Год назад
I've studied Karate my entire life, and almost no one agrees when I make these same points. Thank you for the video coach, now there's two of us! 😅
@wayneholmes637
@wayneholmes637 Год назад
That is because the Japanese took out all of the genuine bunkai leaving only fake relatively harmless bunkai suitable for children to learn. Japanese karate is shadow of its former self.
@Uncle_Tijikun
@Uncle_Tijikun Год назад
@ray you're not alone man, been saying this stuff for years. Props to Ramsay for the great work he's doing spreading great info
@AveSicarius
@AveSicarius Год назад
Because there's a dogma behind it, like most "traditional martial arts" (because they aren't, they were all heavily modified in the past half century or so) people are fundamentally indoctrinated into believing nonsense from day one. When a students teacher, and their teacher's teacher, and their teacher's teacher's teacher, all the way back to (probably) Funakoshi are saying the same thing, people are going to have some residual intolerance to change even if it's complete nonsense. I've seen the same thing in both Shotokan, Taekwondo, and elsewhere. Hell TKD tells you that it's some 3000 year old Korean traditional martial art, when it's clearly just Korean Shotokan even if you ignored everything else and purely looked at the forms and techniques. It's actually very easy to demonstrate this evidentially though. Look at the traditional Okinawan Karate stance, look at the Traditional Boxing stance (which was also grappling heavy originally), now look at the current MMA meta and stances or techniques in common use in a grappling heavy environment. There's a significant amount of overlap, traditional Boxing and Karate look almost IDENTICAL, and we know the former heavily incorporated folk wrestling in its original form (it was apparently pretty damn effective, too effective, as people would get injured all the time limiting those who could compete in competitions), so we can assume that traditional Karate was designed for a similar combative purpose and likely including grappling. Unfortunately Modern Okinawan styles were retroactively effected by the shift to Shotokan in Japan, and most don't train the effective grappling components now, so those of us saying "Karate is a clinch fighting stand-up grappling style" are vastly outnumbered.
@Plantaman
@Plantaman Год назад
Same here, buddy.
@billschmidt4192
@billschmidt4192 Год назад
This make total Sense to me.
@Cavalier9500
@Cavalier9500 Год назад
The way you interact with your students is really admirable. There's no ego or authority. Feels organic and instructive. They're lucky to have you as a coach.
@uli9084
@uli9084 Год назад
The really good ones dont need ego they are over it...
@moustachio334
@moustachio334 Год назад
Alot of Kung Fu and karate forms include grappling. It seems only recently we are rediscovering these forms which is awesome. As a kid, I hated doing forms in TKD. I couldn't figure out why we did certain movements. Then I started learning clinch work for Thai boxing and the big lightbulb went off in my mind.
@wayneholmes637
@wayneholmes637 Год назад
The third Karate kata that most people learn, Heian/Pinan Sandan is about 80% grappling techniques. The Two before that cover the initial contact and then the time before things get to the grappling stage. However Shotokan swapped the order so that you learn the second stage of contact kata before the first, annoyingly.
@lethn2929
@lethn2929 Год назад
@@wayneholmes637 Regardless many of the kata techniques in Shotokan and karate generally are bonafide grappling, takedowns or joint locks, people just don't see it until they're shown it which is why they assume karate equals striking style and other techniques are just useless or aesthetics. I've been practicing Shotokan for decades now nearly and I've had my mind blown by it all because you still keep discovering new things. People also don't go into a lot how shotokan katas can be used in tandem with weapons, then it gets even more mind blowing.
@kevinjung6130
@kevinjung6130 Год назад
It's awesome to see how an open mind, context & experience, and function-based approach can decipher techniques that are mostly done for the sake of doing them/or for performance. I'm happy to have witnessed the end of the low-mid-high block = grappling trilogy.
@RamseyDewey
@RamseyDewey Год назад
Hahaha! It has been a trilogy, hasn’t it?
@joshparrott8841
@joshparrott8841 Год назад
very interesting!!
@counterstrike89
@counterstrike89 Год назад
@@RamseyDewey So do you still think you could beat Bruce Lee?
@youngmf6052
@youngmf6052 Год назад
@@counterstrike89 Bruce lee was half his size, of course he’d win. Done be stupid…oh, you already have a video game for your name huh, so I guess it’s too late to not be stupid.
@kevinjung6130
@kevinjung6130 Год назад
@@RamseyDewey THE RETURN OF THE KING (yes)
@joshuamaurer9784
@joshuamaurer9784 Год назад
"Karate is wrestling." Someone forgot to tell karate practitioners.
@RamseyDewey
@RamseyDewey Год назад
They sure did forget, didn’t they. They sure did…
@wayneholmes637
@wayneholmes637 Год назад
Not all forgot but good luck finding a dojo (looking especially hard at you Shotokan) that teaches karate as it was meant to be taught.
@redshankyman4181
@redshankyman4181 2 месяца назад
​@@wayneholmes637 I've been practicing Shotokan for many years and we were always taught bunkais for grappling as well. My Sensei even told us to learn wrestling to better understand Karate.
@themetal
@themetal Год назад
My Taekwondo instructor Lloyd Plaguer made us spend about half of our time breaking different holds. I mostly understood as the time that if someone were to attack you they would be grabbing on you and trying to control, but as a kid it felt weird to me that we spent so much time on that when all the competitions were centered almost purely on striking. As an adult that's practices a few disciplines now, I'm actually really grateful and feel like he would have spent even more time on grappling and follow throughs if it weren't for all the parents that showed up to watch their kids learn to punch, kick, and twirl a bo.
@AveSicarius
@AveSicarius Год назад
Unfortunately Taekwondo is based in Shotokan, so it takes all the stuff Funakoshi changed into it's syllabus rather than traditional Karate techniques (though it is further modified). It's not grappling heavy because Funakoshi's Karate is not Okinawan Karate, it's a modified variant he sold in Japan due to their desire for something like Western Boxing and not another grappling style, a striking style closer to home was very palatable. This is why TKD is so striking heavy despite it being ostensibly for Korean military use at the time (it was more a nationalist icon than anything though, Choi was looking for ways to unify South Koreans), though many Korean TKD teachers did actually learn Judo and other Martial Art's leading to the birth of Hapkido (but they were much better at actually fighting back in the 70s/80s), it wasn't part of the TKD syllabus, and unless you were competing in a "Karate" tournament I don't think even sweeps would be allowed. I'd actually say old-school "power-era" Taekwondo, before the Olympic sport focus, was one of the more legit striking styles though, basically developed all the kicks we see today bar one or two.
@ehisey
@ehisey Год назад
​@I, CATO SICARIUS Choi also included 2 other arts. Chan fan and the taekkeyon. As he codified it there was a lot more standing grappling or fast wrestling built in to the system.
@AveSicarius
@AveSicarius Год назад
@@ehisey The whole "Taekkyon is a part of Taekwondo" is a myth within the community that emerged more recently. This just isn't historically accurate (for one Taekkyon was basically non-existent at the time compared to Shotokan and even Judo in Korea) and not supported by the actual technique and form of Taekwondo. Yes both incorporate lot's of kicking (Shotokan already had high kicks introduced by Funakoshi's son which look far more like the TKD variants than Taekkyon to say the least), but the extent to which Taekkyon is a part of TKD is that you do lot's of kicking. There's a book called the A Killing Art by Alex Gillis that cover's this in far greater detail based in historical records at the time. The key people involved were all Korean Shotokan Karate practioners, with some minor input from Korean Judoka, and given what we can actually see even in the original TKD form (very easy to see as they basically videoed everything) it's clearly the primary influence. Taekkyon was basically dead post-Korean War, it's more like a game than an actual Martial Art, and didn't really make any comeback until decades after. Hell it's still a very rare thing to see in Korea despite the revival. It's unrealistic to assume anything but Judo and Shotokan Karate, the two most predominant styles in Korea at the time, were involved in the technical development of TKD. As for grappling, nah, there was a bit but it was largely a few sparse Judo techniques like hip throws. Taekwondo was designed to be this radical appealing style, hence why the demo's in the 70's are all dudes flying side kicking over cars and the like. Many Korean TKD practioners and teachers absolutely knew how to grapple, but this was because Judo was incredibly popular in Korea (the two predominant styles at the time were Judo and Shotokan, both Japanese, hence the creation of a Korean style). This is why no grappling survived in the form or the competitive elements even in the early days. I mean Hapkido is basically TKD combined with old-school Judo to some extent, that's what TKD would look like were it more grappling heavy. If you look at initial demonstrations and the earliest technical teaching materials, TKD had every kind of kick imaginable, but not much more. That was the selling point and the way to diversify from other Martial Art's at the time. Now the Korean military absolutely taught Judo alongside it, and stuff like Boxing as well, but that was never part of the TKD syllabus from what I've seen. I would point you towards Kyokushin to see what a kick heavy style with some stand-up grappling looks like. Basically you clinch fight into setting up headkicks at chest to chest ranges, actually pretty effective because you can use your opponent for stability, but it requires specific technique. Taekwondo is historically much longer ranged than this regarding core techniques like the TKD sidekick, though power-era practioners could definitely headkick you point blank
@ehisey
@ehisey Год назад
@I, CATO SICARIUS the influence of taekkeyon has been a stated part of the history by Choi since the beginning along with Chan Fauh So it is not exactly a recent myth. He even states the art was basically dying out, and that was part of why he developed his form of TKD. Is Choi lying, maybe, but I will tend to believe the creator of a system as to what he based it on. This goes back to Choi's book published in 72. And yes he also credits karate, but does not name the style.
@Plantaman
@Plantaman Год назад
@@AveSicarius Funakoshi's karate still had plenty of locks, throws, and grappling, and current day shotokai practitioners train them. Regular shotokan is a bit too streamlined, true.
@jamesw713
@jamesw713 Год назад
A collaboration video with either Jesse Enkamp or Sensei Seth on this topic would be great. They both have a lot of knowledge and are open to the exploration of ideas. Pushing martial arts to places people have forgotten is always an interesting exercise.
@Holygroundmma
@Holygroundmma Год назад
Yes that would be amazing 🤩
@junbi4life112
@junbi4life112 Год назад
Great video! Okinawan karate teaches a lot of these techniques. Practically every kata move has both grappling and striking applications. The master can move seamlessly through both. I learned the "upper block" as an escape from the rear bear hug, also. While stepping forward to pull opponent off balance, execute upper block to break the hold while a high hikite delivers a rear elbow. I believe katas may be taught in layers. What a move means to a white belt may be completely different than what it means to a shodan. Again, love the video!
@lethn2929
@lethn2929 Год назад
This is exactly right, all techniques can be applied in different ways and the idea is you learn the applications as you go up the grades and get stronger and used to the movements. The problem is people either don't know this, or simply don't explain it properly and then that passes down those misconceptions to everybody else. I'm really glad to see so many people in the comments pages getting this about karate in general, it is not just a striking art.
@thunderkatz4219
@thunderkatz4219 Год назад
I do Okinawan karate this true
@sea-ra9995
@sea-ra9995 Год назад
As a karate practitioner, this is a new approach to age uke that I will absolutely wont forget :D I have also seen other bunkais of age uke ( for knife defence, throat holding etc.).In our dojo we usually practice strikes but there is no throwing or grappling exercises. Thank you for your video Ramsey-san :)
@RonioFOX
@RonioFOX 3 месяца назад
New? I'm sorry for your bad experience with karate, but yes, karate is Okinawan, depending on the style it is striking with grappling (most of the time), sometimes it is grappling with striking. Japanese jujutsu is basically the inverse of karate, heavy grappling with a lot of strikes
@Knurrbauch1
@Knurrbauch1 Год назад
In our Karate school we teach always 3 applications for the "block" technique. Yes they can be set to block but attacking and grappling is also an application. I knew the one for gedan barai and sotou uke but, the one for the ake uke is a new one for me thanks. Learning stuff everyday 😮
@xKaidoh
@xKaidoh Год назад
Based on this video, it's more like karate is for anti-grappling, because instead of following up by establishing grips, the karate kata uses the blocks to break grips/establish position and posture to follow up with a strike. This really helps establish why one of the traditional philosophies of traditional karate is one strike one kill. Because if it's done quickly and in this manner where you are basically targeting a counter, it can actually happen.
@Eliphas_Leary
@Eliphas_Leary Год назад
You do know Iain Abernethy, Ramsey, don't you? I'd love to see the two of you in a conversation, because you both help to rediscover what Karate was before it became a sport.
@RamseyDewey
@RamseyDewey Год назад
I think I’ve seen a few of his videos before.
@Eliphas_Leary
@Eliphas_Leary Год назад
@@RamseyDewey He came up with a grappling kata for his Karate.
@Dannyboy-ci3qk
@Dannyboy-ci3qk Год назад
Thank you for articulating it in a video. What you explained and experimented with today i've been playing with for about two years now. I've been in martial arts my whole life I started in karate went to kickboxing bjj and mma ect. And I'm currently a kajukenbo blackbelt. What i've noticed was most people have all these poor explanations and I myself in my early twenties and teens even said these things. But the realization that I have had lately and what ive been saying to my clients is that people were not bad at fighting back then! It was more socially acceptable in the past to get into fights. They weren't dumb. There is a reason these forms are first. But when it's taught today in so many schools the explanation doesn't make sense and implies that no one fought intelligently in the past. One of the lessons I teach basically boils down to this concept. "The founders said that if you have an in-depth understanding of the heian kata, one can feel confident in defending themselves in most situations." "Now, do these most common explanations sound like you could defend yourself? Or that the same kata is also regarded as a children's form? That doesn't track, so maybe there is much more to kata than one being a 1vs8 fight."
@RamseyDewey
@RamseyDewey Год назад
Exactly.
@MrMagnaniman
@MrMagnaniman Год назад
I agree. The human body hasn't changed radically in the last several tens of thousands of years, so it's silly to think people in the past were unable to work out how body mechanics worked. I'm convinced the best fighter of all time was most likely some prehistoric dude, wrestling since he was a wee baby crawling on the cave floor.
@notmyname3681
@notmyname3681 Год назад
I've been doing Tang Soo Do and some of the given applications are laughable. What's worse is there's serious resistance to examining the forms and traditional techniques. Some of the given applications are so bad that anybody attempting to use them would risk serious injury to themselves. It's sad because I love the techniques and their potential, but any attempt to approach this is dismissed as disrespecting 'the tradition'.. for a Martial art that's less than 100 years old, and changed a ton of good traditional techniques to nonsense.
@junbi4life112
@junbi4life112 Год назад
I was told that in the past karateka might only learn one kata but go infinitely in-depth with it. There are many layers to a kata. I wish you the best with your training.
@paolojeromecristobal2873
@paolojeromecristobal2873 Год назад
Yessss i agree. Hence why i cross train whenever i can to learn more about the clinch game andto include more wrestling , throws and sweeps in my techniques. I strongly believe kata shouldnt be maintained, it should be broken down and made to fit a fighter's understanding based from his experiences. The important thing is to make the blueprint useful. Also, now that ive learned the kata, id rather teach the techniques and drills of the technique and then connect it to the kata to make it more meaningful to the students. Although kata is inportant, the lessons should be stresed on the actual fighting, wrestling techniques. Although i am thankful to my sensei who taught me his karate from the 60s with a lot of sweeps and throws. I still feel like it is lacking in some aspects. That is why i am looking for techniques that seem plausible to connect with the kata. Although it may not be the truth or true intention of the kata, id rather find a way to make it functional than to repeat the cycle of memorizing forms without any resistance drills. Much of the applications that i know and try to use are from the similar silat djurus i was taught in intially. If i find a kata movement that had a similar movement, i try to apply it from the kata. Somehow even if kafate is my chosen base style, even if j started in filipino martial arts (fma) i admire how new forms are being made which is based from practical techniques. I just find it common in karate xircles to be too narrowminded that their kata focuses more on how it looks at a certain angle over how it can be used to fit a student's body type and technique. I have mucb to be grateful for to my sensei's devotion to karate. But we conflicted a lot in our views of kata. Even if i treasure our friendship, I will continue in my path to find ways to make the kata that i practice connected to a technique, drill and partner with resistance.
@ghlu9408
@ghlu9408 Год назад
Hi Ramsey, I have been using all of this in BJJ and it WORKS SUPER WELL. The upblock sets up singles really well
@RamseyDewey
@RamseyDewey Год назад
Awesome!
@michaelw7769
@michaelw7769 Год назад
This is totally making sense, all karate senseis should watch this, karate is 80% grappling
@kyusama347
@kyusama347 Год назад
I'm gonna show this to my Tang Soo Do teacher. My class needs to see this!
@DrMARDOC
@DrMARDOC Год назад
I am an old man. A practitioner of just 54 years, now approaching 70 years old. I have lived most of my life on Taiwan. This is the best Chin-nah joint lock n throw video I have ever seen. Thank you for being real!
@RamseyDewey
@RamseyDewey Год назад
Thank you!
@teikarate
@teikarate Год назад
Great video. So much of this true application was lost after modern karate was developed post 1930s. Thankfully, people like Hanshi McCarthy and sensie Abernethy, etc have reignited peoples curiosity into what it's all really about. And it makes sense as okinawan martial arts developed out of Chinese martial arts and indigenous okinawan wrestling. Well done that man.
@GearandGames
@GearandGames Год назад
When I was a kid, it was interpreted as a block. As I got older my sensei explained it that since the word uke means "to receive", you are not blocking but more of intercepting the attack. My style meets the attack (punch) in the space between us and from there a few things can be done. The first and easiest it the motion that looks like a bock or deflection. The more advanced technique is to "ride" the arm of the punch to counter punch while deflecting the attack.
@hydroturd
@hydroturd 7 месяцев назад
I actually showed your older video with these to my karate instructors last year and they made a drill with them! It was a very fun session, thanks coach! This is honestly one of my favorite videos on Karate. Ultimately, the people I've seen offer the best explanations are ones that have grappling experience (often judo) The part at 5:00 where you say "I'm inventing katas" is as authentic as it gets. If I recall the story - Patrick McCarthy (well known now as a Karate author, though at the time competed in kickboxing) was in Japan when he saw his friend who is a Japanese wrestler doing a sort of "shadow wrestling" routine. Patrick swore he thought his friend was doing a karate kata, but when he asked him, his friend was confused as he had never been to a karate class a day in his life!
@southpawmoose
@southpawmoose Год назад
Yeah, old karate as done by the masters of Okinawa fought at much closer range than we see today. Karate Culture, hads some great videos explaining these closer range techniques.
@junbi4life112
@junbi4life112 Год назад
I had a Uechi sensei tell me you should be able to fight in a phone booth... now THAT'S old school. lol
@wolfzwizdom
@wolfzwizdom Год назад
I'm so glad u did this video cause growing up this was a major thing I used to talk to my instructor about. "At what point are we not wrestling" was my thought process and they way I viewed making contact in contact based activities changed drastically. I went into karate wanting to excel at striking but when I got experience I learned it's all grappling and always has been...
@camiloiribarren1450
@camiloiribarren1450 Год назад
I’m so glad that Ramsey did this because old Okinawan karate INVOLVES a lot of locks and grappling before the Japanese incorporated and got RID of the grappling (Japan already had jujitsu and judo, so they wanted a striking art strictly). Okinawan karate (Goju, shorin, matsubayashi, etc) have grappling , take downs and joint locks
@wayneholmes637
@wayneholmes637 Год назад
Exactly, Japanese karate is the stunted child of Okinawan karate.
@lethn2929
@lethn2929 Год назад
@@wayneholmes637 It's interesting you mention this because as Ramsey has been pointing out in his videos on karate, the techniques are all still there, they're just hidden techniques and most people don't even realise that they can be used as grapples, joint locks or grabs. Kata is a great example of this in particular as quite a few techniques that make zero sense are either throws or grapples, they also can often be used alongside weapons. In Shotokan for example Sai and Tonfa almost perfectly work when it comes to kata and then all of a sudden the epiphany comes. For a specific joint lock kata as an example the first couple of moves of Jitte are in fact joint locks and grabs and they are actually quite powerful techniques, but the average person looking at them is just going to think they're weird hand movements that don't do anything. Slow movements in kata when done as a practical application are done really fast.
@AveSicarius
@AveSicarius Год назад
@@lethn2929 They aren't really still there as most of the techniques have been changed significantly over the years, especially by Funakoshi initially, to accentuate that striking aspect over anything else. Could you retroactively change them back to their original form and make it work? Sure. Iain Abernathy does something pretty similar and it seems fairly effective, but it's a lot of work and takes a significant amount of study to actually get there. Also you usually need to train MMA (or Judo, Sambo, or whatever else you have available) alongside it to actually understand grappling fundamentals to incorporate there, because that's usually the hard part for striker's. The thing with Kata is it was actually designed for periods where sparring wouldn't have been practical either due to limited students or teaching time. You go home, you practice the Kata by yourself, you come back and you spar with your teacher or fellow students with better muscle memory regarding position. It can absolutely teach you better striking principles, but for the teaching of grappling, it's very, very difficult unless you already have a solid basis. Also yeah, most of the moves interpreted as "double punches" or esoteric striking are absolutely based in grappling techniques, usually pushes, trips, throws, or clinch fighting techniques (there's lots of clinch fighting in traditional Karate).
@AveSicarius
@AveSicarius Год назад
Not the Japanese, Gichin Funakoshi, who was Okinawan himself. Funakoshi saw the desire for Western Boxing or a predominantly striking style, and changed his Okinawan Karate into Shotokan to sell it over there (one of the several reasons Motobu Choki hated his guts). It became progressively more striking focused over the subsequent generations, with Funakoshi's son being one of the first to introduce high kicks (you don't see these much at all in older martial arts for various reasons) that eventually led to what we see in Taekwondo years later (TKD is fundamentally Korean Shotokan with a heavier focus on kicking), but fundamentally Funakoshi pulled the pin on that grenade. I would say sadly that the Okinawan styles have degenerated now as well, if you look at how they are taught it's primarily striking focused and based in Kata more than actual sparring. It's like this degenerative effect that influenced everything around it. Most offshoots, like Kyokushin, which is probably the most effective style of Karate right now, because they actually fight full contact and are generally hard as nails, are also influenced by this. There's still some legitimate lineages out there I think (I think Choki's style still exists somewhere), but they aren't really accessible to foreigners or even to more than a relatively few students given how obscure some of this is. It's pretty similar to what happened to Traditional Boxing, which looks a whole lot like old-school Okinawan Karate, but is basically non-existent now. Both were clinch heavy hybrid styles built for practicality, not really something that didn't flourish over the past century or two it seems.
@lethn2929
@lethn2929 Год назад
@@AveSicarius This is why I think it would be awesome if Ramsey went over to Japan and sought out some Japanese instructors to explain it all to him in detail, possibly with a translator if he knows somebody and I bet he would have his mind absolutely blown at the way traditional techniques are used by people who know what they're doing. He's clicking onto something that those of us in the traditional sphere know about but of course we're outnumbered by the McDojos and the fakers that unfortunately dominate these styles. It's like you guys point out, these people who really know the styles are out there, but they're pretty out of the way especially compared to the bigger dojos.
@Xzontyr
@Xzontyr Год назад
This really is fascinating. It's makes absoloute sense. It would be amazing and so beneficial if all of the arts that possess this had a Renaissance of sorts and embraced their hybrid lineage, so that they trained in a more mma fashion, apart from the ground grappling. Iv heard of countless karateka already studying wrestling on the side, it would probably really shock them to stop and think about all of those forms they have done and how it can transpire to it.
@dfk09
@dfk09 3 месяца назад
This video was an eye opener for me! Great video!!
@chrismayclin6397
@chrismayclin6397 Год назад
Beautiful applications of basic movements. Thank you!
@willowwren615
@willowwren615 Год назад
This is by far some of the best karate application/bunkai I have seen. Definitely about to get out there and train!
@terryhardinjr3581
@terryhardinjr3581 Год назад
Ramsey I love your takes on approaching techniques from various different contexts. It has been a direct influence on my mindset while practicing martial arts, and I think it is a major factor in the spikes in success I've been seeing lately. I think it is super super important to analyze a movement under the lens of several different contexts, because the same movement in two different contexts could be the difference between the movement being successful and the movement getting you killed. Thanks for your work and keep it up!
@laperrablanca1
@laperrablanca1 Год назад
Great insights! As a Shotokan karate practitioner always looking for practical meaning of kata moves, I'm going to adopt some of the applications you showed. Also, great remark by your student about the importance of what people were wearing in their daily life when they designed the kata techniques. Great video!
@REDLINE.FGC1
@REDLINE.FGC1 3 месяца назад
A great channel that covers these aspects is Karate Breakdown. Very interesting to see these movements used in functional ways
@erykkai
@erykkai Год назад
Thank Ramsey for bridging classical traditional kata to close combat grappling applications that make sense. Grip strip, Takedown, Clinch Distance. It takes a great wrestler to read and apply the kata.🙏
@honigdachs.
@honigdachs. 5 месяцев назад
This is brilliant dude. This stuff makes way more sense for handfighting and clinching than for "blocking".
@alejandrogarcia3227
@alejandrogarcia3227 Год назад
This is awesome I never thought about it like that... And here I thought these karate blocks i learned were for blocking and counter punching 😅
@avlinrbdig5715
@avlinrbdig5715 Год назад
This kind of content is gold!!!
@NBTKDA
@NBTKDA Год назад
One application of the hikite for a high block is to pull down on their wrist / sleeve as you press your forearm across their sternum, throat or face, in my opinion.
@prosdad6438
@prosdad6438 Год назад
Good information and I really enjoyed the patient way you interacted with the students.
@afterzanzibar
@afterzanzibar Год назад
Just started my first wrestling classes and I can't wait to see if this works live!
@SilencerXLR8
@SilencerXLR8 Год назад
It does if you train
@mattsuran1270
@mattsuran1270 Год назад
You are really making kata come alive. These are great videos.
@liamwandi
@liamwandi 8 месяцев назад
This really jells with my thinking and interpretation. Thank you.
@melisslacour15
@melisslacour15 Год назад
This is probably the best video I've seen on this subject I just learned so much my mind is blown thank you for this!
@variouselite
@variouselite Год назад
I am just so freaking thrilled with the developments in martial arts happening in my lifetime. Awesome video brother.
@davidc.9758
@davidc.9758 6 месяцев назад
Brilliant. Thanks for sharing 👍🏼
@baustinshaw2375
@baustinshaw2375 Год назад
Loved these video topics! And ever since i started judo, I have been finidng the grappling in my taekwondo and it gave meaning to alot of things that at first didnt have concrete ideas!
@muslimfitnesssante6832
@muslimfitnesssante6832 7 месяцев назад
Thanks so much for explaining what I believe, train and teach as well for years !
@Chibodian
@Chibodian Год назад
This is a nice teacher student relationship. Reminds me of my own teacher. I love how u came up with a move on the spot and amazed urself. Very chill video.
@bradlwykfulbright
@bradlwykfulbright Год назад
With your video, I Am now adding these karate forms to my daily routine! Simple, but EXREMELY effective in appliction!
@bashlivingstonstampededojo882
Some very legit great applications of the rising block
@bashlivingstonstampededojo882
Karate culture was a great channel that talked a lot about the grappling aspects of kata I don't see them around anymore.?
@crazygreek6341
@crazygreek6341 Год назад
I love the Age uke Bunkai, this move confused me so much when I did Karate. When I started BBJ and Muay Thai it gave me some clarity over the meaning of some kata sequences but never the Age Uke. I thought of it like some frame or when clinching but never with the crossed arms. Thanks for the video man it gave me a lot of clarity
@vincentestrade1283
@vincentestrade1283 Год назад
Thank you sensei Ramsey! I will try these exercises in my next karate class! 🥋
@Holygroundmma
@Holygroundmma Год назад
Great vid Coach. Watching & learning from South Jersey 🇺🇸
@7storm776
@7storm776 Год назад
Very interesting and thought provoking... Thanks for sharing.
@thetrexus6988
@thetrexus6988 Год назад
I have to say thank you Ramsey, when you said in Sydney that "the more I learn about other martial arts and techniques, the more uses I find for karate" I thought you might have been talking about something like this. It's a shame it's not explicitly taught within the system, but I decided today to teach some of the older students how to use these "uke" this way. Thank you for your further contribution to the conversation!
@simoneriksson8329
@simoneriksson8329 Год назад
Thank you for this awesome video!
@flamezombie1
@flamezombie1 Год назад
I like using the upper block as a reverse collar tie, pulling the hand or leg back to off balance your opponent. Gives you good access to the lead leg, or isolates the arm you’re pulling with the hikite to turn into a top double wrist lock/kimura or something.
@flamezombie1
@flamezombie1 Год назад
And you start using the palm with an open hand instead of a fist, all the blocks become much more “friendly” - I think almost all of the open hand techniques in the kata are grappling techniques on that note too. The goofy knife hand stabs CAN be neck strikes I guess, but I think they’re usually just showing pummeling or something like that.
@alLEDP
@alLEDP Год назад
Just watch an UFC fight or other MMA fights and stop in between when they are doing stand up wrestling. Often times the positions hand postions and stances are directly out of a Karate form
@B..B.
@B..B. Год назад
To train under you advise is probably amazing. You are a great man, and a great master in fight. I'm evolved and keep evolving just by learning with your videos in general. I'm really grateful. Aways hope for the best of you and your family. Thanks. And I'm going out now To train
@CarlosMendoza-mb3di
@CarlosMendoza-mb3di Год назад
There is a guy on the internet that talks about how much of Kung Fu is actually mostly wrestling . Watching your video brought back to my mind about how traditional karate had suplexes and some other type of wrestling techniques however with the popularity of Tae Kwon Do a lot of schools abandoned their traditions to compete against the new thing .
@szalaierik
@szalaierik 10 месяцев назад
I love this. My karate instructor was somewhat aware of these so we trained it a bit, but not how you show it here. A lot I figured out on m own, but never applied in any system.
@MrMattias87
@MrMattias87 Год назад
Glad to see that you're exploring bunkai
@tyrausfarrelly6257
@tyrausfarrelly6257 2 месяца назад
Some great insights, well done. We have used traditional karate blocks for close range, grappling and holds etc, for many years. We also teach these in our "primary applications", right from white belt. Keep exploring as there is STILL so many more great practical applications. A few examples, when you hold the finished position of the upper block, your upper arm is protecting the side of your head against round techniques. The block is often just thought of as the forearm doing the block, but the upper arm, is actually much stronger as it is closer to your body and covers the whole side of your head. We use this in sitting self defence scenarios for attacks to the side of the head, think hay-maker/yobo punch, even roundhouse kick. The other aspect to explore is the "chamber position". When you are facing your opponent with head and wrist control, this is the chamber position for lower block. Hikite controlling the wrist and blocking arm (that goes across to opposite ear), controlling the head. Same goes for taking your opponent's back, hikite controlling arm around opponents back and chamber applying rear naked choke. You can even use the chamber position movement to spin your opponent into a rear naked choke. So many applications when you use the entire movement of any, so called, traditional karate block. I could go on for hours about knife hand blocks 🙂 Good luck and keep exploring.
@donyoung5091
@donyoung5091 5 месяцев назад
Some years ago I read a book which casually stated that Karate was a combination of Kung Fu from China-Karate originally meant “China Hand”-and an indigenous WRESTLING martial art called Te. I don’t know how accurate that was, but as soon as one thinks of those moves in Karate and Karate kata that don’t seem to make sense (eg chambering a fist next to the ribs) as WRESTLING instead of striking or blocking, those moves begin to make a LOT more sense. Thanks for highlighting this in your videos, and in a way that gives appreciation to Karate.
@RamseyDewey
@RamseyDewey 5 месяцев назад
“Kara te do” (empty hand way) was originally called “to te do” (Tang dynasty/Chinese hand way) Most of the punching and kicking you see in modern karate are a modern addition.
@robert4965
@robert4965 Год назад
Ramsey I've watched you do stuff with moves from traditional martial arts and how they are interpreted but as a practitioner of kung fu who dabbles in grappling this has blown my mind !
@Monkeyspanner69
@Monkeyspanner69 Год назад
All I can say is thanks. That is fascinating.
@billschmidt4192
@billschmidt4192 Год назад
Very Good Video!!!
@TonyqTNT
@TonyqTNT Год назад
I remember watching a self-defense video by Michael Janich and learned about karate blocking techniques with regard to the iconic martial arts motion of pulling the punching 👊 fist back to the hip. I always wondered 🤔 about that motion when I was small first taking Kenpo Karate and Tae Kwon Do. The above Ramsey Dewey video made me cognizant of the potential grappling applications inherent within the traditional arm extension/contraction articulations of the traditional karate upward, downward, inward, and outward blocking motions. The Janich video made me aware of the potential grappling applications of returning the punching and/or blocking arm and fist back to the hip area. For example, in the Janich video, Michael seized his opponent's striking hand by the thumb pad area after blocking or parrying the opponent's hand strike, and Michael subsequently pulled the opponent's hand back to his hip area effectively pinning and immobilizing his opponent's hand against his own body!!! With the opponent's hand immobilized, the subsequent counter striking motions of Mr. Janich were facilitated. I believe the striking and blocking motions of Karate, Tae Kwon Do, Kung Fu, Silat, as well as African and European martial arts Worldwide 🌎 have dual purpose grappling applications 😀 as well!!!
@Carell117
@Carell117 Год назад
This makes so much sense
@MJRLHobbyStuff
@MJRLHobbyStuff Год назад
Thanks coach. As a life long karate ka, and I’ve been studying MMA for many years this is invaluable Osu.
@Wombo_combo75874
@Wombo_combo75874 Год назад
Awesome! Please make more videos like these.
@gdl1166
@gdl1166 Год назад
We all know that a lot of karate masters look at your channel. I guess this video could become a game changer in a lots of way. Maybe it will take time, but I think that you made a great gift to karate and traditional martial arts with this video.
@standevrie2107
@standevrie2107 Год назад
Best thing I have seen in this genre Thank very much
@standevrie2107
@standevrie2107 Год назад
. Mayblbask.a. May I ask converversal question.....why when close do qwdp we seek contact. Why no biting, gouging, ripping
@scottwheldon9992
@scottwheldon9992 Год назад
This train of thought has been a bit of an obsession of mine every since i saw one of your other videos on a similar topic. I would love to see more of the traditional poomsae or kata moves and their applications like double outside blocks, low/middle double knife hand blocks, etc.
@Kivarenn82
@Kivarenn82 Год назад
Nice job finding this. I finally see some context with the same side wrist grab too. More schools should start coupling the wrist grab with neck control.
@unitynofear7758
@unitynofear7758 4 месяца назад
From age-uke to shadow wrestling, so glad I searched this video!
@dianarosewater5973
@dianarosewater5973 Год назад
I've been getting back into shorin ryu training lately and was literally just telling someone this at work 2 days ago. Thank you for the awesome vid
@TchallaKilmonger
@TchallaKilmonger Год назад
Great points and true
@alexandrel.c.4796
@alexandrel.c.4796 Год назад
Purple belt in Shotokan here, back in the day! Very interesting approach! Now boxing and BJJ, keep up the good work!
@isaiahsaavedra6242
@isaiahsaavedra6242 Год назад
I use to study Goju Ryu karate and traditionally it was considered standup clinch striking, however all the bunkai i was taught didnt seem to fit that description. I think this application of "blocks" (proper transition means to recieve) is really cool and fits the description of traditional karate.
@johnl2648
@johnl2648 Год назад
I'm gonna use this!
@-Banoffee
@-Banoffee Год назад
Bunkai wisdom. *Praise the Dewey.*
@rickeymckissick2065
@rickeymckissick2065 Год назад
Thank you for figuring that out. That’s interesting because that’s what it really is for.
@EvanLovesWhiskey
@EvanLovesWhiskey Год назад
I'm learning how to reapply my shotokan for grapple or takedown set ups now!
@christiangauthier727
@christiangauthier727 Год назад
Wow. I'm on a tight schedule, but as soon as I'll have a minute I'll come back to comment in depth, because as a Shotokan Karate Black Belt who was trained by an AMAZING Teacher (spent 2 months a year in Japan to train and share knowledge and experience with the best, and was recruited by the Canadian Karate Olympic Team a year after I left) who taught us both the "traditional" way of doing things, but also how to adapt everything into something functional, adapted individually to our own physiology, actively encouraged us to find new, creative applications of techniques (also modified) and to openly discuss and test them in Kumite.
@sjhmagic1
@sjhmagic1 Год назад
It makes sense. Karate was made to counter fight wrestling. I can't believe it took me this long to realize this basic concept with blocking.
@internalwarrior2410
@internalwarrior2410 Год назад
I'm totally mindblown and humbled.. I used to think karate was the most primitive backward impractical martial art.. after watching this video you changed my perspective on karate to point I now see Karate as something totally awesome and respectable . You done the impossible, well done. Thankyou
@weaponman3872
@weaponman3872 Год назад
I have always felt like this karate was mainly to 1 be simple and easy to teach many people basic techniques at once 2 the blocks are multi purpose, for grappling , striking as well as blocking incoming clobbers from a weapon of something , very general purpose, great video!!
@WadeSmith-oe5xd
@WadeSmith-oe5xd 5 месяцев назад
Correct. High angle block vs overhand right/left allows you to set up an easy hammer lock vs attacker, and either submit opponent or dislocate their shoulder. This is the second counter-attack we taught white belts in Isshinryu Karate. The backward elbow can also be a counter-attack vs someone attacking you from behind. I studied "Karate and Japanese Jiujitsu" together for 15 hours per week, 6 years of my life, and I know between 250 and 300 unique submissions.
@kanucks9
@kanucks9 Год назад
Wow, when you followed up the grip break with the karate punch + hikite... It looks both very effective, and very karate
@xpallodoc1147
@xpallodoc1147 Год назад
Karate is awesome video gave me new respect for it
@rollinOnCode
@rollinOnCode 8 месяцев назад
omg. i am gonna have to start using this in my grappling, wrestling and bjj ❤ thanks ramsey!
@StrykeTeamOfficial
@StrykeTeamOfficial Год назад
Not how I usually see these but I like your interpretation. I will probably add this to my drilling.
@punteroism
@punteroism Год назад
I remember learning Karate growing up and I always thought the bringing arm back for "blocks" was weird. We were told to snap with our hips to hammer strike away punches with the block. And the "reason" we brought our arms back was to "chamber" the punch. But in reality we never used blocks in sparring the way we did in kata of these big movements just to smack away our opponents arm. In fact our blocks looked more like boxing blocks of little movements to deflect punches. Only bringing the arm back when punching. Instead the only real use I found for crossing the arms was to make a crisp snap sound with my Gi when doing kata. 😂 What you demonstrated makes WAY more sense, and I plan to use in grip fighting. Thank you.
@victor2158
@victor2158 Год назад
Excelente estudio y enfoque, creo que bastante cercano al verdadero propósito de esas técnicas. 👍
@filipinosatisfied6039
@filipinosatisfied6039 5 месяцев назад
Atlast somebody spoke up about blocks being a grappling technique.
@notmyname3681
@notmyname3681 Год назад
Great vid, would love to see an extended series in this covering the fundamental 'traditional' techniques. One thing I think is important; these techniques and especially those in the heian/pyung anh forms are intended for everyday people to defend themselves against thugs or petty criminals. They are not intended (originally) for soldiers or highly trained ninjas and martial artists. That's part of why they are such simple movements, yet are applicable in multiple contexts. I realised yesterday that what we call a low block is also what is called a body sweep in Muay Thai. Exactly the same technique. Then remembered that I've seen Lyoto Machida use it in exactly that way in the UFC. Personally I believe that anybody approaching the 'traditional' arts with an inquisitive and open mind, who actually follows the body mechanics, would end up at a similar place of understanding. It sadly shows how little most TMA practitioners think about what they are doing.
@matthewbaumann630
@matthewbaumann630 Год назад
Can you explain the low block or body sweep move a little more? Thanks.
@mega1283
@mega1283 Год назад
Sensei Vinício Antony who trained Lyoto Machida for some of his UFC fights actually has a karate style called karate-jitsu that is all about this applications
@lethn2929
@lethn2929 Год назад
I am really glad you're exploring this more Ramsey because you do bring up some good points about karate in relation to grappling, if you'll permit me some major autism though I do have some comments about things you were asking people about with regards to the why of a lot of techniques and I'm coming at this from the perspective of a Shotokan practitioner so I obviously can't really comment on other styles. I just hope this will help you because I really like how you're an MMA guy and you go out of your way to check out styles even if you're sceptical of how they're applied. Note: I wasn't kidding about the autism, this was longer than I expected it to be but there's a lot to unpack. . You are correct about how it can be confusing to call these 'basic' techniques blocks, when used in an advanced way they are so much more than that, higher level Shotokan uses body weight in the techniques which is a completely different experience when you're on the receiving end if you're punching somebody. It feels like you're punching in the wrong direction because when Shotokan blocks are done correctly even the basic ones they are actually deflecting the kinetic energy of the punch away from you rather than 'stopping' it with your arm. You use a combination of hip movement, sinking your body weight and elbow movement ( not arm that's very important, you tense up if you just use arm ) while trying to stay completely relaxed, you then tense all at once and sink at the end of the technique when making contact with the opponents arm and that's where the power from the technique comes from . Most to be blunt 'western' karate practitioners can't explain this and it's because they don't know, so that's why they come across as completely clueless and MMA guys as a result often end up dismissing karate styles as a whole because they think there's no power in the techniques, it's not that these techniques don't work, it's exactly like you suspect that too many people don't know how to use them! Or they wildly misinterpret what the techniques are used for . The opposite movement when you punch or block, your opposite hand going back to the hip position when you punch is actually part of the hip movement and how you generate power through hip movement and body weight, it's another totally bizarre aspect to Shotokan that won't make a lot of sense to people and unfortunately as you're correctly realising not all karate practitioners actually know how to explain it all properly which is a major shame and admittedly the style has been very diluted like most Karate styles by the ever cringe McDojos . Marking hands as an example of another form of advanced karate are actually grabs, I think you covered this though in one of your videos now I think about it . Age Uke is a block specifically for a punch to the chin, I admit I did lol when you showed that hammerfist to the head but whoever told you that was dead wrong, it's a punch to the chin I promise, when it comes to the height difference though yes you'd probably use something else if you were ridiculously taller than the person . Many techniques you see in Shotokan and karate styles actually work far better when done at a 45 degree angle, one you might not have thought of is Uchi Uke, I don't particularly like this technique myself, I find the movement awkward and everyone has their preferences but do it at 45 degrees and all of a sudden it makes sense, basics are not a real life application of karate and never were meant to be, that's your strength training when it's done properly. People just don't explain that properly though and everyone is guilty of this so the whole style suffers as a result. Some techniques will only work really well at 45 degrees, others will cope fine straight on when done correctly . Deeper stances for your techniques as well, deeper deeper, the stances are a big part of the strength training in shotokan as well and you would be surprised how strong they are when done correctly even in a grappling situation, I should be clear too, I don't mean lengthen your stances, I mean bend your knees, a lot. Now caveat, you of course don't deepen your stances when your sparring because of the restricted movement, but I feel like this is another aspect of weirdness that Shotokan in particular has I thought I should explain . The whole shortened technique thing again is one of those situations where it will only work if you've done the basics and trained up your timing and strength enough, you absolutely made the right call in not using them because you have to be able to generate the amount of power in your techniques to begin with for them to work, even then though, the full motion blocks have their place in advanced karate . Just to go into hip movement because I forgot to explain that in a bit of further detail and it's important, you rotate your hips when making a block and then you sink your entire body weight when your block makes contact with the arm, which again to stress, this is a big part of where the power in shotokan karate techniques comes from, you don't use hips, you're not doing shotokan, it will also be terrible and you'll be just using muscle in your block rather than technique, this will lead to the bigger person always winning and overpowering which I think is a big reason why people assume none of it works I hope this helps answer at least some of the questions you guys had, it's totally understandable because some of the movements are definitely bizarre. Given that you're in Shanghai I was wondering if maybe you wouldn't consider a proper trip to Japan given you're so close? I actually would have some recommendations of Japanese teachers you could visit if they happen to be in Japan at the time, if nothing else you could probably get into contact with people there. Edit: Just found a fantastic video that demonstrates a lot of it! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zONkxoVtK2U.html
@salvatoreplacidoplumari3840
Could you please break down a whole kata in this way? Like a drill likewise in Koryu Uchinadi.
@RamseyDewey
@RamseyDewey Год назад
When I finally understand a full kata, perhaps I will!
@wayneholmes637
@wayneholmes637 Год назад
The problem with that is every move can have 3,4,5 or more possible bunkai. Even the relatively simple Heian/Pinan Kata would make a long video if you were to try to show all possible bunkai for each section of the Kata.
@foxlawrence7139
@foxlawrence7139 Год назад
I love to teach age uke for an ankle pick - Hikite is elevating/pulling the lead leg, lead arm is framing into the neck/shoulder and run through em. Works great off a caught round kick too. Watch your Frankie Edgar tape and you'll see it worked at full pace
@VanishingNomad
@VanishingNomad Год назад
Holy WOW! I dont know if I should save this to my "Ramsey Dewy" folder, or my "Karate" folder!
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