Keeping Vrook Alive + Mercenary Win & Fighting Vrook + Khoonda Win 

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Uh no

Vrook is, in my opinion, the second worst character in KOTOR, while Atris takes the first place. G0-T0 might be a close third for me, but I can live with him

Vaklu was and is a liar and yes Kavar was the best Jedi Master! I wanted him as a party member so badly.

See, the thing about that is that, unlike Vrook, Kavar isn't an idiot. Although, maybe he is. How Vrook managed to talk both Kavar and Zez-Kai Ell into trying to disarm the Exile is beyond my comprehension.

@@tripleoo0 Well, the Jedi as a whole were too scared of the Sith Neophyte (Force Leech) coming back as the Exile had the capacity to promote its power through experience and raw Dark Side aura.

@@louisiananlord17 Which is only a threat if the exile is actually a Sith. I'd venture to say that 75-80% of people choose the light side ending, in which case, the Jedi (read: Vrook) are completely and utterly wrong and short-sighted.

@@tripleoo0 Indeed, and it is a shame Kavar couldn't see past Vrook's hatred of the exile.

Handbanana from aqua teen hunger force

I did not know that. No.

Real Jedi.... thats the force will

@@razofdead Master vrook is everything that was wrong with the Jedi council. The ineptitude of the Jedi that led to their downfall following the Mandalorian wars and not being able to evolve and punish Jedi that go off the beaten path that was the Jedi code. For him there is no in between. There is only dogma.

​@@harmonyovabraxas5556In my opinion, that title should go to Atris. Vrook was very attached to the jedi doctrines, but Atris took it to the extreme, even when she was studying the Dark Side. That, from my point of view, makes her a perfect representation of everything wrong with the jedi

Well done

Vrook is the textbook example of a dogmatic Jedi, only caring about the traditions and security of the Order. He and others like him ignore the Living Force and the lives of the people in the galaxy do not matter to them. All that matters to them is strict adherence to the single ideal of the Jedi Code, the "there is no emotion, there is peace" version which that's the light side to an nth degree of extremism. The first Jedi Code, "Emotion, yet peace" was more nuanced and human, whereas the new dogmatic code was extreme and preached for the Jedi to be aloof and uncaring bastards.

Well, most folk there hate Jedi, so they might view Vrook as a grumpy Jedi who went bad.

You're very welcome!

You've been playing it on PC?

Wow, man. Thanks! I love it when people share my stuff.

Vaklu may not have been perfect, but at least he actually cared about his people and their culture. I know such a thing is impossible, but I'm curious what Queen Talia's reaction would be to knowing that because of her her people will "lose themselves in the ocean of the Republic and become the people of Onderon no more" congrats on killing your entire planet's culture 👍 It always depresses me to side with Talia on LS play-thoughs

I'll see what I can do.

@@PapitoQinn I also have never seen that.

Bit late to this but if you do that you have to fight the remaining masters when they arrive on dantooine. And you fo it without a companion

You kill even one master and the survivors turn on you. I did see a video on YT about different variations on the subject.

Well thats what you get for being an asdhole who refuses to change

Onderon? How do you mean?

You can let vaklu's men kill Talia

@@warlorddavid8290 Yes, you can do that. But we were talking about a way to supports Vaklu and leave Kavarr alive and vice-versa, weren't we?

@@warlorddavid8290 Yes. That doesn't keep kavarr alive.

@@PapitoQinn yeah it's an Xbox bug, I'm just a dumass. And never noticed. It also seems like it might have been a bug on earlier versions of the restored content mod

You're very welcome. I should be thanking you for actually watching it.

"47 Makes a Decision" Composed by Jesper Kyd.

I'd really like to know the answer to this too! Plus if it is possible how does that affect the confrontation with the jedi masters at the end of the game?

if you kill any of the masters the others meet you on dantooine and instantly attack you because they sense you killed the other so if you kill any of them you get the darkside outcome anyway

@@powderedwiglouis1238 That's interesting! I wonder what the associated dialogue is like. Could be a cool video for Papito Qinn to do.

@@hans7686 yeah could be a cool video but i think they just start attacking lol

It's something like three lines of dialogue, including the Exile's reply. Also, given that most people's first instinct is to slice Vrook, that means you have to turn on Kavar and Zez-Kai Ell and fight them both simultaneously, which isn't necessarily difficult, but it's very sad, because those two would certainly have understood under any other circumstance.

Yes. You're forced to kill the other council members.

You can be dark side in the end, but you have to sacrifice some alignment points to the light. You have to choose to support the monarchy on Onderon, to name one example. With all the masters at the enclave, and heavily on the dark side, Kreias dialogue will be similar in all aspects - except one line. A peculiar choice by the creators, no doubt.

Maybe soon. I'm working on something that might grow into a Kreia's conundrums.

No there is not, as far as I know. That's the one planet where the paths are locked on either killing Kavar or not.

Sounds like Witcher 3 to me

Because I like Rise of Nations' soundtrack. Composed by Duane Decker by the way.

No you have to body kavar

Kavar seems to be the only one that locks you down the path. And Zez Kai Ell is the only one that gives you a verbal choice no matter what you do.

I feel like it’s even worse this game cause the game trying to prove a point

@@rances4418 Yeah that is true.