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Keeping Youth in the Church 

Brian Holdsworth
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Every now and then the Church will refocus its attention on young people with a special emphasis on the question of how do we keep young people interested in their faith.
And the all too common answer that keeps coming back is that we have to make it relevant to young people. We have to speak the language of popular culture and express our faith in ways that young people will immediately recognize and identify with.
And as we speak, the Vatican is hosting something called a Synod on Young People and they seem to be drawing a lot from this kind of popular wisdom that pandering to the youth is the way to go. But from everything I’ve seen the whole thing just comes across as old people trying to fit in with young people and it’s been an occasion for a lot of cringe.
So I want to consider this question of how the Church can respond to this challenge without sacrificing its own identity or integrity along the way because the thing about pandering is that people know when they’re being pandered to.
It’s not the kind of thing that inspires respect or admiration. Instead, it’s the kind of thing that provokes a fairly cynical reaction at least that’s how I respond when people try to put on a façade of relatability.
If the Church wants young people to listen to the message of Jesus which is what it has been charged with the care of and dissemination of, by Jesus, then it’s really undermining its own efforts by using tactics that provoke people to look down on the messenger. That’s what pandering does.
And this is what the Church has been doing for the last 50 years or so in the wake of the Second Vatican Council. People have taken that council as a license to vandalize all of our outward expressions of the faith like art, architecture, music, and liturgy in the hopes of making it more culturally relevant and accessible.
And the result has been that the Church is less relevant than ever. I can’t emphasize that point any more. That experiment has failed catastrophically. Nobody who is well marinated in popular culture walks into a typical Catholic mass and is struck by a sense of how relevant and cool it is.
But let’s say you could make the Church cool and relevant. Maybe we just haven’t tried hard enough and we need to double down on the experiment. What would we have accomplished? The message of Jesus is come and follow me. Why would anyone do that if there’s nothing unique about us if we’re just exactly like the outside world?
The way we present the message of Jesus needs to be like nothing of this world, because it’s not of this world. It’s from the world to come. It should have an otherworldly and transcendent quality to it.
That’s why the Church has always made this distinction between the sacred and profane. The sacred has always delineated that which is set apart for the very unique experience of encountering God through worship. It literally means “set apart”.
I think we instinctively know that the moments we set aside to come to God should be different from the ordinariness of every day life, even cultural life. They should inspire us to something more. Those experiences should transcend the material world.
But if we try to make our faith look exactly like the profane world then we will signal to the curious that God isn’t here so don’t waste your time looking for him here.
So if pandering to relevance isn’t the way to attract and retain youth members of the Church then what is?
Well, I think we need to be ourselves. Present authentic Catholicism as it actually is. Don’t water it down and don’t try to make is something that it’s not.
Next, we have to re-embrace a distinction between the sacred and the profane.
Uniqueness is actually a really attractive quality. That’s why old European landmarks like Catholic cathedrals attract tourists from around the world.
If we claim to have the fullness of truth, which is God, we should act like it. We should offer a worship experience that is like no other because God is so utterly transcendent. It should be an experience that is set apart from all other experiences in this world and it used to be that.
Lastly, we need to tell them what is true. If you just affirm people where they are and in what they’re doing, then again, they have no reason to take an interest in following you - which is to say, they will have no reason to come to Church.
Standing firm in doctrine and in truth is the only thing that will actually attract people who love what is true. If we compromise truth in the name of attracting people than we’ve undermined our own mission.
Compromising the truth of Christ’s message in the hopes of attracting people to Christ’s message is an exercise in futility because it’s self-contradictory.
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@BradSchepisi
@BradSchepisi 5 лет назад
"Watching baby-boomers sing songs that were written in the 70s while smacking tambourines to time signatures that have no correlation to the actual beat of the song" ..... Amazing! Brian you win the internet today! Summed up the totality of my Catholic life experience in that one sentence.
@BrianHoldsworth
@BrianHoldsworth 5 лет назад
I'm glad it resonated with you Brad... but I wish it didn't!
@BradSchepisi
@BradSchepisi 5 лет назад
@@BrianHoldsworth Good point!
@aaronmisley8662
@aaronmisley8662 5 лет назад
Most of which were written by Protestants
@vanithagracegrace4253
@vanithagracegrace4253 5 лет назад
Sir plz send me kjv in English sir plz
@Prancer1231
@Prancer1231 5 лет назад
Current Catholic music is so atrocious and banal, most of it sounds like it was written by children. If the idea is to appeal to protestants, they already have better music in their churches. Catholic churches need to bring back organs and traditional Catholic hymns and Gregorian chant. The church of Sts. Simon and Jude in Phoenix has music the way it should be done. And in fact their Mass is the way it should be done. Priests should watch how they are doing it and learn from them. Their Masses are televised and on youtube.
@aaronmisley8662
@aaronmisley8662 5 лет назад
I love watching Brian become more openly traditional
@pointvicente123
@pointvicente123 5 лет назад
Or just being Catholic in a true sense. Speaking of traditional... check out this video of Michael Matt reacts: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7HwhvpXtmUQ.html
@JuanKGM
@JuanKGM 5 лет назад
That´s why I love Traditional/Gregorian/Tridentine Mass...
@dianajanna7228
@dianajanna7228 5 лет назад
I’m 18 turning 19 and I’m in love with the church for its true beauty and... JESUS! ❤️❤️
@rileyewen6163
@rileyewen6163 5 лет назад
Amen Brian. As a young person and a convert from evangelical Christianity, which is often oriented to pandering to popular culture, I yearn for the sacred and the beautiful precisely for the reason that it is set apart from the world. I know I am not alone - if the Church holds true to tradition and orthodoxy they will gain young people, not lose them
@timothyfreeman97
@timothyfreeman97 5 лет назад
Hillsong young and free can only offer the Christian youth so much....
@evel-sebezetgraet8578
@evel-sebezetgraet8578 5 лет назад
Absolutely agree. This is really the reason why I am Catholic rather than any kind of Protestant. When I walk out of the local Bible Church after a service, I truly feel that nothing has happened. Don't feed me the popcorn, the empty calories. Give me the spinach!
@Chamindo7
@Chamindo7 4 года назад
@@evel-sebezetgraet8578 I prefer the flesh and blood diet of the faith. Ave Maria.
@Matthew-mq6fz
@Matthew-mq6fz 5 лет назад
I belong to a parish that really stresses 'community' to the point where it's near impossible to get a quiet minute of prayer before and after Mass, due to all the talking and chatting. The choir practices on Saturday afternoons; good luck trying to prepare for Confession with the banter on the sound system in the church. We shake hands and greet one another before Mass begins, in addition to the Sign of Peace during Mass. The overall attitude is that the focus is on the community being friendly with each other, not the community come together to worship God. I can't speak for all men and women of my generation (millenial) but I desire reverence and silence, an atmosphere that allows contemplation of the mystery in which we find ourselves immersed in Mass.
@clinetalbo
@clinetalbo 5 лет назад
I have been to those parishes too and I cannot agree more with you about how unattractive it is. When I see older people talking/socializing INSIDE the chapel before and after Mass while young people are trying to pray it can get really frustrating. Mostly because the older people should be examples of a good Christian to the younger generations! Instead it seems to be the other way around these days.
@kimfleury
@kimfleury 5 лет назад
I agree with both of you, Caroline and Matthew -- and I'm from the tail-end of the Baby Boom (not old enough to have had a part in shaping the culture, just young enough to have recognized that they fed us lies and they're stuck in their imaginary glory days). The younger people in the parish are more reverent than the old folks, and the chatting is so loud because the old folks are hard of hearing. May God have mercy.
@custisstandish1961
@custisstandish1961 5 лет назад
Matthew 0331 Amen!
@tianamenezes7548
@tianamenezes7548 5 лет назад
I'm a young person who would fit in the category the church is trying to pander to and I absolutely agree with your analysis. When I walk into the modern churches I feel no different than when I walk into a concert hall. There's no sense of grandeur, no iota of reverence, and no beauty to behold and it just leaves you feeling empty, like something is missing. I don't know why the Catholic church went in this direction but I really hope it reverses course soon because we deserve better.
@himl994
@himl994 5 лет назад
Tiana Menezes I don’t know if we deserve better, but we definitely need better.
@marymityaba4993
@marymityaba4993 5 лет назад
Are you talking about churches in the US? I live in London suburbs. Alot of Catholic churches can u put you to sleep. I prefer Catholic Charismatic masses. However can only find them if theres an event miles aways from London only like once a month.
@MeadowWayTV
@MeadowWayTV 5 лет назад
You are correct, you deserve better.
@AnnInFL
@AnnInFL 5 лет назад
Brian: "If we make our faith look and smell and sound like everything else, we will signal to the curious that there's nothing unique about this experience. And because there's nothing unique about it, you can rest assured that God's not here." !!?! 🤯 !?!! Well put. Bring back sacred beauty!
@ThePianoFortePlayer
@ThePianoFortePlayer 5 лет назад
1:01 happy to see the Syriac Catholic Patriarch not clapping
@mosesking2923
@mosesking2923 5 лет назад
Syro malabar archbishop actually. Mar George Allencherry.
@eduardovalentin9416
@eduardovalentin9416 5 лет назад
Thank you for expressing what the youth actually want. Im tired of looking like any other organization
@katywest
@katywest 5 лет назад
Yes. Yes. Yes. I couldn't agree more, and this is coming from a 20 year old. I love all of your videos Brian, but I think this is my new favorite.
@andrewsheedy4513
@andrewsheedy4513 5 лет назад
Don't worry guys, there are plenty of quality seminarians and young priests just waiting to turn things around! One of the biggest hurdles, though, will be trying to introduce music that no one knows anymore. It's going to take time to get the liturgical life of the Church back in shape...
@richardvankoppen7978
@richardvankoppen7978 5 лет назад
Yes I want to be one of those ones who changes things
@AnnInFL
@AnnInFL 5 лет назад
Our church is doing this. I am in the choir, and our parish uses ICEL chant for mass. Our young pastor is very strict and moving us toward tradition. We are only allowed to sing traditional Catholic hymns, chant, sacred music, lots of Latin, etc. I really love it. Many contemporary pieces can be beautiful but I feel they are not right for mass.
@andrewsheedy4513
@andrewsheedy4513 5 лет назад
@@AnnInFL Awesome, what diocese is this?
@kimfleury
@kimfleury 5 лет назад
It's rough being in a parish where the average age is 62. Father has done a lot to bring back traditions, but when I asked if we might have a TLM he said there's not enough interest. That's because most of the older parishioners didn't like the Latin Mass when they were kids, and they were tickled pink when it went more Protestant. They hate most anything that veers toward tradition, with few exceptions. And I'm not young -- I'm 58. I don't remember the Latin Mass, but I see growing love of tradition among the youth, and it's so beautiful. I have hope for our Church.
@hesedagape6122
@hesedagape6122 5 лет назад
Protestants use vernacular but just like the Orthodox we value liturgical tradition something that is missing in Roman Catholic parishes. Visit your own Anglican Ordinariate. That is a typical Protestant service. The only thing that Protestants may often not agree on is ostentatious vestments or chanting liturgy. Some very much do use them. It's after Vatican II that RCC started it's experimentation in "modernisation". It's a Roman Catholic idea.
@JuanKGM
@JuanKGM 5 лет назад
I Totally agree with you, Brian. Greetings from Colombia. God bless you.
@PrometheanKitchen96
@PrometheanKitchen96 5 лет назад
I like The Traditional Latin Mass
@ML-rd6ci
@ML-rd6ci 5 лет назад
Excellent video, thank you Mr Holdsworth. Your message should be heard by the Vatican leadership.
@SensusFidelium
@SensusFidelium 5 лет назад
Great job
@cristinobouvette8359
@cristinobouvette8359 5 лет назад
You've knocked this one out of the park, Brian- very proud of you! *Help is on the way...*
@iain5615
@iain5615 5 лет назад
Children don't need to see the church as culturally relevant but as authentically relevant. It needs to show children how historically true the resurrection is. How early the old and new testaments were written via archaeological evidence, etc. How the multiple contradictions are not actual contradictions. Why the old testament God seems different from the new and the Mosaic Laws apart from the ten commandments are so different from the new covenant. How the bible is consistent throughout on themes such as morality, etc. Being told to have faith when your friends and teachers are telling you why faith is a delusion and giving what seem to be relevant and logical reasons is idiotic. Most kids need apologetics.
@hesedagape6122
@hesedagape6122 5 лет назад
Simply most kids need to be in Church schools and be taught by believers and ministers.
@HistoriadoraGaby
@HistoriadoraGaby 5 лет назад
Amen. I totally agree with you!!! Greetings from Mexico!
@dianajanna7228
@dianajanna7228 5 лет назад
Conpletelyyyy agree with you Brian! God bless you! (From a college teen!)
@rukia15chrno
@rukia15chrno 5 лет назад
I agree entirely, Im in my twenties and really the modern church didnt attracted me at all I was indifferent to it and the songs always made me cringe... the only times I entered a church by my own initiative was in the old cathedrals in my city, now looking back I understand that verse that says “I tell you, if they keep silent, the stones will cry out!”, truly the stones did better than any preaching I've heard at that moment. If it wasnt for the internet I would have never discovered the beauty and truth of the catholic church, it makes me so sad I want to convert but every church around seems so modern, liberal and insipid...
@kimfleury
@kimfleury 5 лет назад
Please become Catholic and inspire others to love tradition.
@TheWorldBroadcast
@TheWorldBroadcast 5 лет назад
Brian, as a 22 year old revert(I was "raised Catholic" by my parents who knew little about the faith, I spent a stint in admiration of Judaism and Islam after breaking free from the confines of materialist atheism as a socialist, first communist then fascist, and ended thereafter with a loose nondenominational Protestantism, finally ending with a conversion to Catholicism based on the reasoning of Classical Theist understanding of God and the description of how Catholics view the soul though the concept of Hylomorphism) what attracted me to the faith was in fact what many would consider too harsh or rigid. I admired that way because of the firmness in which true convictions brought about what I saw as virtuous people. I don't attend a Latin Mass, I'm already lost and struggling in finding good catechists, I attend a fairly liberalized vernacular mass where I live in the U.S.A. It is passable if sometimes annoying in the lack of reverence in us as a congregational whole, I mean not to stand as someone castigating his fellow brothers and sisters, but the more firm I think the Church stands in its doctrine and Traditions, traditions and so forth, the more I know and feel that we walk a righteous path towards the Lord, Our God. I like keeping it out of trying to fit to the culture. I want it to engage with it, but not try to be like it. Then it just comes off as like that girl in school who does questionable things so the she likes will like her, or that she'll get herself more attention/acceptance among the cool kids. Most of the cool kids are idiots and by holding oneself to our values we can gather more from the aftermath of everyone's mistakes in life. This is at least how you got me.
@kimfleury
@kimfleury 5 лет назад
Your analogy of the girl who does questionable things struck me because it's similar to the thought I had. I think of women who desperately try to hook a man, and even the times my friends tried to talk me into asking a guy for a date because they thought he liked me (I'm a woman). No, I'm not asking a man to go out. If he's interested, he has to ask me, and if he's too shy, then our relationship won't be beneficial for either of us. The most I'm going to do -- IF I'm interested in him -- is be open to him. And if he doesn't ask me out, then he's not interested. End of story. The Church shouldn't act like an aggressive, desperate woman. She should be open to being asked for a "date," but she should have standards and not "settle." Women who are desperately aggressive don't attract the worthiest men. It's one thing to say that we're a field hospital for sinners, but that means doing the surgery (Confession) and therapies (the Sacraments and homilies). We can't just hand out Communion and expect that to make a soul better without Confession and attempts to strive for virtue.
@RandolphCrane
@RandolphCrane 5 лет назад
Oh nice, do you by any chance follow Edward Feser?
@TheWorldBroadcast
@TheWorldBroadcast 5 лет назад
@@RandolphCrane Funny enough, I ended up listening to him when I first found the Patrick Coffin Show. Before that I kind of mediated between William Lane Craig and other types of Protestant theologians. Fesar was a big part of my conversion, but also Michael Voris. I understand he is not liked in certain circles, but I like to call him the "Sledgehammer of God" just because of how passionate he was and that was something that helped me see it wasn't happy clappy Jesus, there consequences and there was a logic behind such decisions and moral reasoning. It wasn't one figure, but many, of different dispositions and manners, that brought me closer to the faith.
@TheWorldBroadcast
@TheWorldBroadcast 5 лет назад
@@kimfleury Amen Sister.
@reecelopatka3941
@reecelopatka3941 5 лет назад
I love listening and watching content from various Catholics, but hands down- no question- your videos are INCREDIBLE. The analyses you give are succinct and full of wisdom. You never fail to articulate the EXACT jumbled things I think/pray about all the time. You offer a perspective which (I hope you understand I mean this well), although it sounds revolutionary, is unoriginal and derived from the simple common sense of tradition and experience. You shed light on why the Church's teachings make sense. Thank you for what you do. God love you.
@juliabrown1291
@juliabrown1291 5 лет назад
Completely true. Honestly spoken. I hope our Cardinals and Bishops are listening.
@paulmiller3469
@paulmiller3469 5 лет назад
Brian, you are one intelligent guy. I've had many of the same thoughts, though in bits and far less articulate pieces. This was a really good video.
@thedon978
@thedon978 5 лет назад
“Hiding behind a facade of relatability” - perfectly stated. It’s too weird for words.
@declanmoore6489
@declanmoore6489 5 лет назад
Discovering the Latin mass in my parish is the only thing that kept me in the Catholic Church.
@sjenner76
@sjenner76 5 лет назад
Yes! Yes! And Yes! This is why Aesthetics is a branch of philosophy. The Church has abandoned Her aesthetic values, which are the visual inculcation of her fundamental principles and values. The Church is sick. Her aesthetics are sick. As she struggles with bureaucratic infighting, power struggles, corruption, and blows to Her integrity as a meaningful and worthy institution, it shows as She trades the holy for the profane, the eternal for the plastic, the centuries for a cringeworthy light show.
@niki3773
@niki3773 4 года назад
Christian Orthodoxy hasn't abandoned its aesthetics. Allow me to say that it is the Holy Church. Mystical, as people oftentimes call the liturgy, you can truly feel God's presence. Do some research on your part brother! God bless you and may the Holy Spirit be with you!❤
@budimirzvolanek6234
@budimirzvolanek6234 5 лет назад
Yeah, awesome motivating words, Brian, thank you. I joined the Catholic church exactly how you recommend, the original One Holy church practicing its Faith in a special Holy way (priest facing a magnificient altar, organ music thundering, incense and smoke, siurrounded by statues of Saints, special Latin language, ...) in special Holy buildings (not circular arenas), ... and the one established by Him, Jesus Christ. And offering Liturgy not pandering to manners of man-made Protestant church services and methods.
@myleshagar9722
@myleshagar9722 5 лет назад
Such a 'special Holy way' is our right as Catholics.
@hesedagape6122
@hesedagape6122 5 лет назад
Protestants have nothing to do with this. We have liturgy books too. It's about RCC trying to modernise not Protestantise.
@maolsheachlannoceallaigh4772
@maolsheachlannoceallaigh4772 5 лет назад
I'm one of the few conservative Catholics who actually does like modern church architecture (except when it goes off the deep end). And I don't much care for historical cathedrals. But I think all your observations here are entirely correct in spite of that.
@treeroofgrass
@treeroofgrass 2 года назад
I have a traditionalist friend who would poke fun at the church I attend because it doesn’t look like an old gothic style cathedral. I worship God, not the facility the holy sacrifice of the Mass takes place. although I am conservative/orthodox Catholic, I’ve distanced myself from the traditionalist movement.
@fotografiadziecieca8660
@fotografiadziecieca8660 5 лет назад
Best Catholic channel I have found. Greetings from Poland, Cracow
@timrichardson4018
@timrichardson4018 3 года назад
Totally agree! I grew up in a charismatic movement that trended toward being more relevant to the modern culture. I feel like, not only does it compromise the integrity of the church and the message it preaches, it promotes a false sense of security. If someone can come to church and be entertained and feel like he's done a great spiritual thing that makes him right with God without actually having to repent of sin and follow Christ, then the modernization of the church has not only failed to draw him closer to Christ, it has deceived him into think he's right with God simply because he came to church and felt good. I'm not saying that there aren't people in more "contemporary" style churches that are serious about their faith. But I think it runs the risk of deceiving young people, drawing them into a false sense of security when nothing of spiritual substance has really happened.
@RafnErika02
@RafnErika02 5 лет назад
Authenticity is defiinately key. I head a youth ministry for a Military community overseas. It boils down to relationships. Our youth group is small (about 14 teens but we have a good over 100 in the community), and I have learned just to be myself, show them my story, and show them the beauty of what we have as a Faith. I sure do not hold back on truth. I was raised by a Baptist Preachers kid who converted later, and my dad is VERY Catholic. I am in a unique position to share apologetics because of my upbringing. I also run into so many teens that are just brain washed by secular pop culture. to them its just "religion" and they barely if at all know who God is. I don't blame the church, I blame parents for not fostering The Faith at home enough for it to make a difference. In our Confirmation program it seems as though we are fighting to convince them God exists more than showing all the deep beauty of The Faith. it is VERY Difficult.
@Mimse79
@Mimse79 4 года назад
Once again YES! I sooooo agree! To sum it up: We should have some self respect!! THAT is what attracts - the seriousness, integrity and self respect of someone who knows they have something very, very precious..... We truly DO have a treasure - let's act like it!!
@burkardhanis
@burkardhanis 5 лет назад
shared with the USCBB
@luzclara3855
@luzclara3855 5 лет назад
100% true and powerful message. One of your best videos ever!
@eriklindhurst5793
@eriklindhurst5793 5 лет назад
Exactly right! I cannot agree with you more. The world needs to conform to the Church, not the Church to the world.
@frankopanklaric
@frankopanklaric 5 лет назад
"Hello, fellow kids!" You are right. It's cringy and kids see right through it.
@lafavemark
@lafavemark 5 лет назад
Love your videos!
@Olaizmusic
@Olaizmusic 5 лет назад
Hey Brian! Quick story: I remember traveling last year (I was 21) and I ended up going to mass in Modesto, CA at a beautiful Cathedral. It was the evening youth mass and they had acoustic guitar and piano and all the nice songs and everything; I approached them after the service (being a liturgical musician for 6 years prior) and asked if they might consider doing some chant just to at least bring in some variety or maybe recommending the piano player play the Organ for a hymn or two (esp. the kyriale). I had said this because (apart from the fact I low key only prefer Sacred music - voice/organ) I noticed the organ was definitely hooked up to the sound system. That organ would resonate so perfectly with the acoustics and sound so wonderful, I'm sure. But all the guys in the choir said they don't think they have ever heard that organ played! Two things I think our musicians should always do: 1. PLAY TO THE ROOM (acoustics) Speaking from a pure practical standpoint: I went to mass in a basilica and they were playing drums and the things were mic'd. Meaning if you sat at the back you would hear the initial attack from the speakers and then you would hear the echo a half-second later creating a delay which was absolutely nauseating. The other thing about strummed guitar and piano is that there is too much attack and too many attacks every time they strike a note. If you look at the waveforms they are erratic, but if you look at the waveforms of the voice, organ (even classical music) they come in like gentle waves. All this to suggest why we have these musical Traditions in the first place. 2. MORE SACRED CHANTS, and POLYPHONY! In the GIRM (General Instruction of the Roman Missal) it gives these things as priority. I always say Sacred Music is a different genre the P&Worship. We really should only have Sacred music for a Sacred liturgy, if I'm gonna be blunt. Just imagine if at REC in Anaheim if they hired out a pro choir and did some Victoria or Palestrina, oh man. Talk about the true and beautiful. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-z227Tcb-n6Q.html P.S. This is all coming from a 22 year so-Cal guy who played bass/directed for a liturgical youth band for like 6 years. Now I just try to go to Tridentine mass and keep the Chant alive, man... the depository of music from the Church is our treasure! makes me sad to think if we should lose it :'( Just wanted to get that off my chest thx Oh! check out ccwatershed.org for resources TL;DR for the love of all that is sacred don't play drums in a cathedral during mass oh man
@deelman9389
@deelman9389 5 лет назад
Precisely. You nailed it, Brian
@beataoor8229
@beataoor8229 3 года назад
Finally someone said it. Us young people want to hear the hard truth and nothing else. I want to know my religion. And I am not the only one. Show us Jesus on the cross, we want to see his blood. If we don’t understand his sacrifice, how could we understand the most basic part of Catholicism: the Eucharist? If we don’t see Jesus suffering for us we can never understand that Jesus is there suffering again for us every single mass, if we don’t see his blood, how could we understand that it is there in that chalice? And not only that, it is really helping us to overcome our own crosses, knowing how Jesus suffered and died for us. The strongest of my friends are the Catholic ones that follow the Catholic Church without doubt. Teens and young adults have a lot of suffering in their lives, Jesus’s cross can only help us through it.
@billcharly3174
@billcharly3174 5 лет назад
Thank for this video Brian, this Is just ... Awesome!
@kaylynn4750
@kaylynn4750 5 лет назад
I’m not Catholic, but as someone who is a 20 year old VBS director, I find that the core of what children’s church should be about is the true message of the gospel and the foundations of faith. I picked a kingdom theme this year, because I want every part of the content to be relevant to the message, not just to the kids. It’s an illustration that is used throughout the New Testament. What better way to have a lesson come across than to take them into an experience where they can imagine instead that they are in this *real* kingdom (even though it doesn’t look like a kingdom with our natural eyes)? Children are highly imaginative and visual, so I really hope that visualizing God’s Kingdom will help get the point across in a way they can engage with. My hope is that it doesn’t make the reality seem distant, and instead that they interact with God and the Bible and faith with the notion that they can somewhat comprehend what’s going on. The biggest problem with pandering in my opinion is not the fact that people do it, but that they don’t seem to recognize that their pandering doesn’t elevate God’s truth. The dancing is cringeworthy to the point of disrespect, not because dancing for God is wrong, but because it doesn’t genuinely showcase the things that a church should value. And that’s a problem, because it means we’re being dishonest. You may not align with charismatic Christianity, but there is a clear difference between the video you showed and the worship coming from an individual who just sincerely wants to love God. The latter I admire, the former I don’t. The same is true with solemn churches. They believe it is respectful to God, and are not doing it simply to pander to the newcomers in the crowd so they’ll think they’re “highly spiritual” (although that can be true in some cases). I would argue that neither is a wrong way to have church, so long as the reason behind it is to worship God and obey His commandments. God will do the convincing and converting and pulling in, we just need to be obedient and faithful to the cause, no matter what that ends up looking like. I’m sure it’s just easier said than done. Post: I also say this as a young convert myself. I became a Christian in my teens, and it was definitely NOT because churches pandered to me. It was because Christ called me into his marvelous light, into the Kingdom!
@KrustyKrabbz2
@KrustyKrabbz2 5 лет назад
I love how many videos you have advocating for tradition 😄
@davewygonowski984
@davewygonowski984 5 лет назад
BRILLIANT!!!
@justinward3218
@justinward3218 5 лет назад
I'd love to go to a Tridentine Mass in a classical church. Especially an Easter Vigil or something like that. But alas, I can only ever find the Extraordinary Form in side buildings and Novus Ordo in the old churches.
@codwackether7181
@codwackether7181 5 лет назад
As a recent revert to the Church I cannot stress enough how much truth, beauty, and goodness played a role in my desire to return to the faith. Pope Saint John Paul II had the right idea when it came to addressing the youth: go out and find the young but when you do show them the glory of Christ in its entirety and you will take the world.
@tonybamber1137
@tonybamber1137 5 лет назад
Wise words again. Keep up the good work.
@reginasmith3149
@reginasmith3149 5 лет назад
Well done. Keep up the good work. God bless you and your work.
@StoneCrow189
@StoneCrow189 5 лет назад
Those Churches are the most beautiful things I have ever seen in my life.
@deutscheseele
@deutscheseele 5 лет назад
Wow. I'm stopping and taking notes.
@JoelSam
@JoelSam 5 лет назад
Great message sir! Greetings from Ghana 🇬🇭
@CapitolPilot
@CapitolPilot Год назад
My old church was the most un Catholic, Catholic Church I’ve ever attended. They took the Novus Ordo and said “let’s do this, but also make everyone think we are in a Baptist church” there was no reverence, no modesty, no silence. It was a sad attempt to put on a concert before mass even began. I walked in one Sunday half an hour before mass so I could pray, only I didn’t get to pray. The HUGE band of maybe 20 people (nearly standing in front of the alter) we’re playing as loud as they obnoxiously could. I couldn’t believe it.
@pbedregal
@pbedregal 5 лет назад
God bless you
@AndrewZettel
@AndrewZettel 5 лет назад
I largely agree, Brian. I do think there's a classic Catholic "both and" piece that's missing in your analysis. Beautiful art/liturgy/architecture and clarity of teaching are excellent & necessary ideas. Praise & worship music, eucharistic adoration, faith sharing groups, social media ministry (like the "Word on Fire" & "Ascension Presents"), and community outreach are all parts of parish life that will * also * attract young people. The key is that the initiatives be done *well*; that they be of high quality. I would caution against being wholly dismissive of those "tambourine-smacking baby boomers", and try to re-direct their focus towards some of the really good 21st century evangelization that's happening. I think of communities like the Companions of the Cross, the Franciscan Friars of the Renewal or the Daughters of St. Paul in Canada.
@LeahValerie86
@LeahValerie86 5 лет назад
Love your videos, Brian. A big part of why I became Eastern Orthodox and not Roman Catholic is because they have kept the liturgy and worship style ancient and traditional. As a disenchanted Protestant, I wanted to go as far back into church history as I could, and I concluded the EO Church has done a better job of preserving that.
@kimfleury
@kimfleury 5 лет назад
The Eastern Catholics have also kept the ancient Divine Liturgies of the respective Churches. If you're just looking for the most ancient form, then go pre-Chalcedon: Oriental Orthodox.
@carmendlugo1585
@carmendlugo1585 4 года назад
Amen!
@websterlee7708
@websterlee7708 5 лет назад
Amen!🙏
@jimcallahan9346
@jimcallahan9346 5 лет назад
Brilliant.
@nenabunena
@nenabunena 5 лет назад
I agree on so many levels! Also I do believe in the intent and origin of the NO but it needs to be fixed to be made more reverent. The music, the way people dress, the incomplete vestment of the priests sometimes, etc should be influenced by reverence and by the tridentine mass. Also the Latin mass should not have been discarded, every church should still offer it to the lay people every Sunday or daily even. The Church is so beautiful, we should not be ashamed of it where priests, nuns, and friars don't even dress in their habit in public anymore. They should continue to wear their uniforms as a testimony that the Church is still here and alive and a reminder to everyone else. Why try to hide the Church? Its presence will keep its relevance in the public consciousness outside of the scandals and anti Catholicism in the media and can start a dialogue or true sincere curiosity
@myleshagar9722
@myleshagar9722 5 лет назад
The NO can be easily and immediately fixed. Return the altars to the wall and make the tabernacle central so we face God together in prayer and adoration as was done for 2,000 years. This literally re-orients and changes everything.
@stevefredriksson6155
@stevefredriksson6155 5 лет назад
Really remarkable commentary. Well done, sir!
@JM-qs8up
@JM-qs8up 5 лет назад
I think you're going in the right direction... If you want to see active, vibrant young people, return to tradition and the Latin Mass! That's where vocations are coming from! Pilgrimages, role model saints for the youth, like St Maria Goretti, the beauty of chant and incense and Truth! The full truth of our rich Catholic faith. Having young people involved in singing and serving the Mass.
@whatisthetruth.8793
@whatisthetruth.8793 5 лет назад
I agree with you , it has been soo confusing and disbelief for me lately.
@nathandoan3862
@nathandoan3862 5 лет назад
The Orthodox Church is still beautiful.
@bronwynstirkul3549
@bronwynstirkul3549 4 года назад
Nathan Doan amen. Not all though unfortunately, but even as ugly as the aesthetics and music may be, the essence is still beautiful. I wonder why he didn’t become Orthodox.
@Eye_of_a_Texan
@Eye_of_a_Texan 3 года назад
I almost hate to quote Ravenhill now that I'm in the Church, but truth is truth. "Why do you think that the world which couldn't get on with the Holiest man who ever lived can get on with you and me?"
@Floridiansince94
@Floridiansince94 2 года назад
I agree 100%
@Superwing
@Superwing 5 лет назад
Thank you Brian, for helping Catholics take their red pills! Keep it coming!
@Pawel_Jozwik
@Pawel_Jozwik 5 лет назад
Can not agree more. I go to Latin Mass and Byzantine Liturgy now.
@KeithStrang
@KeithStrang 5 лет назад
I smell what you’re cooking. You nailed it. The Divine Liturgy should not be the most difficult place on the planet to meditate and pray.
@thatcatholicgirl5675
@thatcatholicgirl5675 3 года назад
As a young person myself, I can testify that WE WANT TRADITION!! I would go to a Latin Mass, but there's not any where I live. There's only Novus Ordo. Luckily, it's still a bit more traditional than other NO Masses, but the secular tends to creep in every now and then.
@LonnieMassey
@LonnieMassey 5 лет назад
This baby boomer agrees with you wholeheartedly. I remember the conflicting feelings I had in the 70s when music in my little Baptist church began to change, supposedly to keep us teenagers from leaving. One of the (many) reasons I became Catholic was because of the transcendence that is inherent in the Mass, but I struggle with the hymn selections in my parish, particularly the communion hymn, which seems to usually be the worst of the lot.
@cyriake7934
@cyriake7934 3 года назад
My church is beautiful and I am really thankful for that. Its architecture is late baroque and neogotic and inside we have colorful polichromy from 1920s. But still I hear some people complaining about it. I don't know why.
@hobbiton64
@hobbiton64 5 лет назад
I must say I think this was a really good video. I don't know much about youtube but I really liked it :)
@deborahjohnson9877
@deborahjohnson9877 5 лет назад
At 5:20 minutes: "They obscure the spiritual with profane sensibilities." Well said.
@vickersonp
@vickersonp 5 лет назад
Brian you are spot on. I’m 73 and when I saw those old bishops trying to be cool I nearly puked. It was absolutely pathetic ...they looked most uncomfortable and ridiculous and I got the feeling that somebody higher up told them to do it. Big fail. The problem that I see in the Catholic Church is that most people have never had a personal encounter with Jesus...that includes most priests as well. Where you have charismatic priests you have growth. Once people have had that personal encounter with Christ their faith becomes alive and they want to learn more about their faith. As Fr James Mallon said....without that personal encounter it’s like trying to plant seeds in concrete.
@nathanjohnston1967
@nathanjohnston1967 5 лет назад
Amen brother.... My local priest is one of the baby boomers who was part of this last 50 years of nonsense. He can't believe how many youth blame his generation for the problems in the Church. When my wife and I got married he was so shocked that we wanted it traditional. haha
@mariavignonivargas9191
@mariavignonivargas9191 5 лет назад
You are a wonderful, young leader..Help JESUS bring youth to the Church. Watching the horrid scene at the Synod, and Cardinals clapping ia just a lack of authenticity and loyalty to JESUS And more important they are playing with the souls of youth !!! Wow of those who change JESUS MESSAGE!!
@marathonyouthministry5708
@marathonyouthministry5708 5 лет назад
Brian, great comments and agree with what you are saying. I think one of the challenges is identifying what's "Authentically Catholic" because there are lot of people confusing traditions and rituals. I'd love to hear more on some ways you've seen this done well, where you see the church being authentic and real to the Truth. Not that there is anything wrong with what you are saying, but I didn't hear a lot of practical solutions or steps parishes could take to go from pandering to evangelizing. Keep up the great work.
@elspethsilverstar6136
@elspethsilverstar6136 5 лет назад
"Pandering to the youth" always appeared to me as though they were trying to put Velveeta cheese on brussels sprouts, a trick my mom used a lot for us when we were kids. We always saw through it and refused to eat them, in fact, the thought of them makes me nauseous right now. Maybe it's the attitude that church is like brussels sprouts that needs to go in the first place. And by the by, I've eaten brussels sprouts now as an adult - they're not half bad on their own with a little salt.
@laszloattiladozsa8179
@laszloattiladozsa8179 5 лет назад
Brian, you just "killed" the "aggiornamento". And I am really happy for that.
@joan8862
@joan8862 5 лет назад
Liked and shared.
@juanmanuelsanchezrodriguez6325
Your comment on 1:30 made you heir of a like of mine. God bless you.
@DenisBrayon
@DenisBrayon 5 лет назад
Wow ! Great video ! Thank you, thank you, thank you, Brian Holdsworth. The distinction between sacred and profane is *so* important, but has been muddled in recent years. P.S. What a great painting we find at 6:57. People seem to be in awe before the Most High. The scene represented would be nearly *impossible* in a Mass celebrated vesus populus. The painting in itself is a solid argument for ad orientem/ad aspidem worship.
@anthonyp1414
@anthonyp1414 4 года назад
The weakness of the catechesis of today made me leave the church, but the tradition, beauty, and art of yesteryear brought me back. Why can't the boomer bishops and cardinals understand that tradition is the way to keep the faith alive?
@charmendro
@charmendro 4 года назад
I think reaching out to Youth is through youth mediums like making truly captivating programming or apps or social media pages that are of high quality at giving the message
@metodemersic
@metodemersic 5 лет назад
Amen to that! Go and imagine doing that in an old european gothic church and it turns out even more silly.
@stephenechavia
@stephenechavia 5 лет назад
That one prelate at 1:00 seems to be enjoying the dance very much.
@sooze610
@sooze610 5 лет назад
Excellent. ditto from a Protestant viewpoint. :)
@teena4rl211
@teena4rl211 5 лет назад
Excellent commentary. Of note, the Eastern Rite Catholic churches have retained the sacred aspect of church and are also under the Pope. Give them a try sometime! :-)
@kimfleury
@kimfleury 5 лет назад
For some of us, that means a long travel and maybe a stay in a hotel.
@andrewsheedy4513
@andrewsheedy4513 5 лет назад
Although I certainly agree every Catholic should experience an Eastern liturgy at some point in their lives, I think it would be a mistake if every liturgy-loving Catholic stopped attending the Ordinary Form of the Mass. It'd be impossible for the good priests to introduce reform if the Catholics who want it had left for greener pastures! Instead, lay people need to put more effort into pressuring priests to celebrate the liturgy well, and those with musical talent need to step up and help with music ministry so that we can improve the quality of liturgical music.
@detektivoli
@detektivoli 4 года назад
What is the church seen at 4:11. It's breathtaking beautiful!
@margaretfrazier181
@margaretfrazier181 4 года назад
The message the church presents today makes faith , in my opinion, less special. If its not holy and special how can it be that important. Our youth are searching for God and can't find Him in our churches.so happy I found your videos. God bless.
@rafaelwilks
@rafaelwilks 5 лет назад
As Blessed Pius IX once wrote, doctrine and liturgy are quite closely related.
@jmdsservantofgod8405
@jmdsservantofgod8405 2 года назад
When they come in….. lock the doors!🤪🤣😂
@luisoncpp
@luisoncpp 5 лет назад
Looking back, when the missionaries were able to evangelize in the most effective ways has been always embracing the culture of the people they are evangelizing. I think the most astounding example is Cyril and Methodius, when they evangelized the Slavic people, they learned their language(instead of trying to teach them latin and greek, that was a failed attempt to evangelize them before) and they even invented the Glagolitic and Cyrillic alphabets to be able to write the scriptures in Slavic. I also heard that something similar happened in China, the most successful missionary was the one who adopted chinese culture, unfortunately I don't remember his name. We shouldn't forget either that Christianity started in middle-east, and a lot of the art associated with Catholicism is highly influenced by Roman culture. My thoughts about the arguments presented on the video: if we are going to try to use contemporary art to try to appeal newcomers, that art should be top quality, not generic/mediocre attempts, and priests could look for help in the laity to find people that could achieve that quality (just remember Miguel Angel was laic). I agree that mass should feel as something distinctive and making it too similar to the outside is not a good thing (still, I think the masses in local language are something necessary) but the missionary work it's not confined to the mass, there is a lot to do outside mass.
@martin1b
@martin1b 5 лет назад
6:53 - What is the name of this picture? Incredible picture.
@pearlllg
@pearlllg 5 лет назад
"Watching baby-boomers sing songs that were written in the 70s while smacking tambourines to time signatures that have no correlation to the actual beat of the song.” I think that is why my blood pressure is so high. My heart can’t beat correctly with that kind of stuff going on. lol!
@custisstandish1961
@custisstandish1961 5 лет назад
Brian I am old enough to have a foot in both the Pre and Post Counciliar Church. You young man have said what I've said for 40 years. Through the Gospel the Church is to influence the surrounding culture. Instead the Church, seeking secular relevancy I guess, has been led by the nose by the surrounding culture. The Church has wonderful hymns yet week after week, no offense to Mr. Schute, we sing something from the Oregon Catholic Press hymnal. A tune book filled with neo-Victorian sentimentality and a focus on us, instead of God. After Vatican II the powers that be went from building beautiful Gothic and Romanesque churches to building essentially gymnasiums with pews and awful lighting. That your message should be heard by the Church leadership would be a blessing for Catholics young and old. "
@charliecascino826
@charliecascino826 5 лет назад
What's the painting at 6:51? It's beautiful.
@jefflokanata
@jefflokanata 4 года назад
Something I found from learning music history. Most of pre 1500s music that survived in written form is Sacred Music. We hardly find trubadours (pop music in that age) sheet music, don’t we? So fundamentally, art of Sacred is Eternal. But now in modern era, we hardly find any well crafted Sacred Music, although if we read 2nd Vatican Council, they endorsing Sacred Music. Our study resource is more accessible than past century. Why?
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