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Keithley 164 Nixie Tube Multimeter Repair 

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We have briefly looked at this ancient DMM before, but delayed the repair for a while. Now the time is right! We are diagnosing a problem with the Nixie supply voltage and replicate 2 unobtainium ICs with modern components. The 960 driver aka Fairchild 996079 aka 9960 is a Nixie tube driver, that interfaces with 3.6V logic and takes an inverted BCD input. I'll imitate its behavior with a 74HC42 BCD decoder and discrete MOSFETs.
Equally the MC867P is replaced by a 74HC75 and a few pull-up resistors.
What now? I don't even need it as a DMM?

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Комментарии : 169   
@NikolajLepka
@NikolajLepka 6 лет назад
I can't help but imagine someone in the future who eventually gets this machine, cracking it open for debug purposes eventually finding this patch job inside
@jimsvideos7201
@jimsvideos7201 4 года назад
Here I was thinking, one funny transistor, big deal, but then I got to the end and now I see what you mean!
@iceberg789
@iceberg789 7 лет назад
wow, first time seeing anyone trying to repair an ic. :s
@Atetus94
@Atetus94 4 года назад
True :)
@666CoDFREAK
@666CoDFREAK 3 года назад
He's an german engineer, expected nothing less
@etch3130
@etch3130 3 года назад
@Neil Derrick reporting spam now. Seems effective.
@enlightendbel
@enlightendbel 3 года назад
That's exactly what I saw one of the last engineers that accept work on Wang VS systems do when he came to revive an ancient WangVS we had in storage and needed to get running to validate modern code against. Guess what. Dude was also German. Every other engineer we contacted couldn't be arsed.
@nomikeyno
@nomikeyno 7 лет назад
This video is a perfect example of why I love this channel. Mind-numbingly interesting and hilariously funny at the same time!
@aneeshprasobhan
@aneeshprasobhan 7 лет назад
this is no doubt one of the top 5 electronic youtube channels :D -Love from India
@rosmianto
@rosmianto 3 года назад
Whats the other 4?
@lbrieden1
@lbrieden1 7 лет назад
Enjoyed the image of the otter banging the chip on the rocks to get at the bonding wires. Hah
@TheDanielConsole
@TheDanielConsole 6 лет назад
You are completely insane. Love it
@DaveTheResurrector
@DaveTheResurrector 4 года назад
I love your presentation, just the right blend of practicality and dry humor. "The magic smoke is always an option" - words to live by.
@Damjanhd
@Damjanhd 4 года назад
I really respect people which repairs ancient electronics!
@cathodeanode
@cathodeanode 3 года назад
I have a Keithley 160 (the older nixie tube version of the 160B) and I was having trouble figuring out what was wrong with it. Your video was super helpful with diagnosing and finding the problem (bad transistor in the -15V power supply.) It's working like a charm now. Just wanted to say thanks!
@capri2wd
@capri2wd 7 лет назад
that is a real nice bench meter, well done for putting the time in to reverse engineer the dead parts and saving it from scrap. I would think it was valuable but i love the retro tech and who doesn't love nixies? great vid!
@justinlynn
@justinlynn 7 лет назад
When I saw you using that manual solder sucker I thought "I should buy him a vacuum iron"... and of course you have one. :) Keep doing what you do. Cheers
@Bright8888
@Bright8888 7 лет назад
Very interesting video and I am glad, I discovered your channel. For the first time, I saw an attempt to crack open an IC with the intention of making it functional again. As you say, when you repair very old stuff like this, you have a guilty feeling that you are wasting a lot of time, but when it starts working again, the feeling is priceless.
@PiotrK2022
@PiotrK2022 3 года назад
@ Marco Reps Damn, I have huge respect for persons who has so huge knowledge to fix something by making replacement parts from scrap... You blew up my mind,.
@fricklermfk9284
@fricklermfk9284 5 лет назад
I'm right now trying to fix a Keithley 160, and your Video helped a lot! I think I'll just replace the ancient nixie drivers by those more common SN7141s you find on ebay a lot. Thanks from Germany!
@helmutheller1538
@helmutheller1538 3 года назад
I also have a Keithley 160 which needs some love and calibration. And I am also from Germany :-) Do you have any more information on the unit? How did your repair go? What was wrong?
@fricklermfk9284
@fricklermfk9284 3 года назад
@@helmutheller1538I documented the fix on my blog, though it'll only help if the display driver unit is broken in your device: fricklers-blog.de/de/projekte/keithley160/
@m.emrahozkaya9903
@m.emrahozkaya9903 7 лет назад
this was the definition of geekness my friend. anything involving nixies should be saved and cared for. very good job.
@emilcarr7190
@emilcarr7190 7 лет назад
Damn, I'd never think of repairing an IC like that, good job!
@hexane360
@hexane360 5 лет назад
That hand silkscreen is crazy. I might need to make a program/plugin to convert boring routings to crazy organic-looking splines
@mr.reflect1027
@mr.reflect1027 3 года назад
I'd love a whole series of videos just watching Marco repair random electronic bits and bobs and giving away his tricks on what to look for. They dont really teach component level troubleshooting anymore in german tradeschools :(
@macpr0c
@macpr0c 3 года назад
That ending gave me true joy
@JIMO415
@JIMO415 6 лет назад
Hello, nice repair!! I love it. I found your video because I just found one of these Keithley 164 meters. I had to go in it as well but only to clip the R404 jumper for final calibration. Values must have drifted over 40 years. VR402 would not bring in the calibration. Dc volt ranges (among others) were 1% off and it is only supposed to be 0.1% +1 digit. I am glad it was not complicated. Buying a manual off ebay helped.
@edgeeffect
@edgeeffect 4 года назад
Love that mix of ICs and vacuum tubes on the display board.... it's even better now you have put a couple of surface mount components on there too!
@DAILYTECHNEED
@DAILYTECHNEED 7 лет назад
The best repair I've ever seen, i thought you can't fix it but wow..
@rubusroo68
@rubusroo68 7 лет назад
great job, so good to see old equipment brought back to life. thank you.
@InteraliaTony
@InteraliaTony 6 лет назад
Instructive and entertaining. You take a lot of time over the video quality. Thank you.
@gifedietherlaforteza2669
@gifedietherlaforteza2669 5 лет назад
Absolutely love this! You make it seem quite a bit easier than it actually really is. Keep up the great talents you have. I never knew that some ancient or so ics could be cracked open. What a nice thing to know for future encounters.
@reducedlunch2222
@reducedlunch2222 2 года назад
4 years old and still entertaining.
@brucewilliams6292
@brucewilliams6292 6 лет назад
Your humor is great! It really makes my day, thank you.
@LiquidAudio
@LiquidAudio 5 лет назад
Absolutely fantastic repair work and video!
@proluxelectronics7419
@proluxelectronics7419 7 лет назад
Came up in my recommendations and you now have a new subscriber, Top work.....
@davidprice2861
@davidprice2861 5 лет назад
Brilliant, an incredible repair job. Well done.
@mikemiller4838
@mikemiller4838 5 лет назад
Your videos are great. I hope to have your level of knowledge some day. Thank you
@THEsourman00
@THEsourman00 7 лет назад
You are an absolute wizard, this was yet another amazing video
@gbclab
@gbclab 6 лет назад
Great repair, my very compliments
@Bllinker
@Bllinker 7 лет назад
I've seen one of those ceramic DIPs being delidded with a blowtorch, the glue simply gives up after a certain temperature. You could try that next time an opportunity arises.
@dardosordi
@dardosordi 7 лет назад
I've not been this excited for a new youtube video in a long time, your content is awesome!
@RupertHair
@RupertHair 6 месяцев назад
❤ the Puscifer @10:38 Hope you can catch MJK with Tool this year!
@BrianLough
@BrianLough 7 лет назад
Great video! I genuinely lol'd in work at the Otter
@thecoffeeblog
@thecoffeeblog 3 года назад
PCB paths painted by hand. Amazing
@PetetheSweety
@PetetheSweety 7 лет назад
Outstanding job !
@SBHSGA
@SBHSGA 7 лет назад
very impressive! love those nixie tubes!
@jix177
@jix177 7 лет назад
Very clever repair! Well done.
@ralphmadera4366
@ralphmadera4366 4 года назад
Your brain 🧠 my friend is at another level ! Love your sarcasm !
@josephcote6120
@josephcote6120 5 лет назад
Great save of a nice old meter. Any Keithley is worth saving to me.
@bluesonkel
@bluesonkel 7 лет назад
Wow! Very impressive work!
@justinlynn
@justinlynn 7 лет назад
"My 1955 counterpart should be able to use the attached schematic diagram to build a suitable replacement for the time circuit control microchip" :D
@willynebula6193
@willynebula6193 7 лет назад
That would have to be the best repair I've ever seen on RU-vid!!! You actually made a custom ic of sorts to replace an unattainable chip!!! Mate total respect👌 also the pepe insert quality KEK right there
@Split10uk
@Split10uk 7 лет назад
As many others have commented...great video!
@peteabc1
@peteabc1 7 лет назад
'I've got a few candidates for this newly opened position' ololol :D. When you put the IC in the vice to open it I was like haha good joke..wait...what?
@skm9420
@skm9420 4 года назад
His reaction
@BruceNitroxpro
@BruceNitroxpro 4 года назад
@@skm9420 , And MY reaction, also!
@succuvamp_anna
@succuvamp_anna 7 лет назад
That was awesome, congratulations!!!!
@hvanmegen
@hvanmegen 6 лет назад
hahahahaha.. the otter.. omg, this channel is hilarious.. subbed!
@chriswouse7713
@chriswouse7713 7 лет назад
I like your attitude to repair! Bust IC, take the top off!!! Never in a million years would I think that that would be an option!
@hernancoronel
@hernancoronel 5 лет назад
Love your videos and your humour! This channel is hilarious! Thank you Marco!
@eduardoanonimo3031
@eduardoanonimo3031 7 лет назад
Dude, supreme video editing!
@JackZimmermann
@JackZimmermann 7 лет назад
Very cool repair! Kudos!
@nachbelichtet
@nachbelichtet 7 лет назад
Kudos! That's serious repair!
@charlesw318
@charlesw318 7 лет назад
Beautiful meter wish I had one
@AmatorElektronik
@AmatorElektronik 3 года назад
Very nice job
@patmx5
@patmx5 3 года назад
Test gear with nixies is always worth repairing. Excellent job!
@captainboing
@captainboing 7 лет назад
Fantastic! Well done! 😁😁
@Scrogan
@Scrogan Год назад
Common-gate MOSFET driving? That’s some wizard shit.
@ReyciclismoMTB
@ReyciclismoMTB 2 года назад
I love your third hand, great video I just found for super cheap. So the plan is to get it and see what happens. I just love the look of it.
@davekimball3610
@davekimball3610 7 лет назад
Aww, magic smoke is always fun, but I'm happy you were successful in avoiding it. Great work.
@TechBench
@TechBench 7 лет назад
Excellent repair. All that remains now is the calibration ;-)
@danijel124
@danijel124 6 лет назад
This guy is a wizard. And I dont mean that in any bad way. Nice job dude :)
@HatfieldCW
@HatfieldCW 7 лет назад
I love this guy so much. What fun.
@meowcula
@meowcula 6 лет назад
loved the otter scene, i cackled out loud
@Runoratsu
@Runoratsu 4 года назад
The traces on this machine are so pretty! Not like those boring 0°/45°/90° lines layouting software generates nowadays… 😄
@eigenvector7035
@eigenvector7035 4 года назад
Oh that's lovely. Ive got the little brother, a Keithley 163.
@umutk5614
@umutk5614 5 лет назад
Wow, I love your videos and this one really thought me a lot beside the great humor :)
@TheDefpom
@TheDefpom 7 лет назад
Nice job, good video as always.
@Moonblade042194
@Moonblade042194 7 лет назад
Great video!
@douro20
@douro20 6 лет назад
I have a Dana 3800a which is still working. It's a little bit newer than this Keithley 164 but is very similar. Despite its low resolution I still like to use it occasionally since it has a very high input impedance.
@MakenModify
@MakenModify 7 лет назад
Great Video, great channel, lover your style :)
@circuitblog01
@circuitblog01 6 лет назад
good job my freind
@krunty
@krunty 7 лет назад
I feel like if I said you had a Keithley problem you'd just say you could quit at any time.
@Bodragon
@Bodragon 6 лет назад
Haha! I wonder if he's heard of the 12-step program they've got over at Keithleyolics Anonymous?
@BruceNitroxpro
@BruceNitroxpro 4 года назад
@@Bodragon , but for THIS channel, it'd be a 13 stepper at least!
@BruceNitroxpro
@BruceNitroxpro 4 года назад
Now I'd love to see you do an "optimized calibration" of this tank. In other words, make it an offer it can't refuse.
@t1d100
@t1d100 4 года назад
Yes, the fun is worth the repair effort. It's the whole point.
@valentinocolaon6060
@valentinocolaon6060 7 лет назад
I dug thru my IC stash. sn74141 is the closest I found. I have a box full of vintage IC's and unfortunately I don't know what most of them do because I can't even a datasheet.
@victormuckleston
@victormuckleston 3 года назад
if its fun, ITS NEVER A WASTE OF TIME, and all the mistakes increase your knowledge and that is worth more than anything.
@hugeshows
@hugeshows 2 года назад
Love your channel. Also, I have several of those driver chips. Let me know if you run into another candidate for one.
@circuitblog01
@circuitblog01 6 лет назад
i wish you the best you are very smart and i I salute you
@daskasspatzle2396
@daskasspatzle2396 7 лет назад
Great video, as allways ;-)
@MrFatjonable
@MrFatjonable 7 лет назад
You earned a like man👍🏻
@caroman6761
@caroman6761 7 лет назад
five from five Stars, thanks ....
@FlipMeiser76
@FlipMeiser76 7 лет назад
Very, very good work! Grüße aus dem Westerwald.
@lambertax
@lambertax 6 лет назад
So funny... Love this channel
@codygokarts4400
@codygokarts4400 4 года назад
Amazing.
@DanBowkley
@DanBowkley 5 лет назад
I've got a big ol box of 74LS and 74HC series ICs, almost exclusively in DIP packages...if you want I can dig through it next time I'm home and send you any 74HC42s and...whatever that other chip is.
@dd884e5d8a
@dd884e5d8a 4 года назад
Wow. Just wow.
@HolgerBarske
@HolgerBarske 7 лет назад
Brillant!
@16mmDJ
@16mmDJ 7 лет назад
God this is fantastic
@maxwarfield6699
@maxwarfield6699 3 года назад
Hello, I recently bought a Nash & Harrison [?!] Nixie tube multimeter. I am not an electrician, so I'm not quite sure of what the problem is, with this device. When I turn it on, the Nixie tubes light up, as they should but when I try to measure some voltage, the numbers don't change. This multimeter looks great, very clean and nothing inside smells burnt or discoloured or damaged. I know that Nixie tubes require a lot of voltage, so I'm very careful [scared] to measure voltages, when it is plugged in [turned on]. The capacitors look good. The resistors too. I would like to investigate further but it is very difficult to remove the boards [I counted +/- 28 cables soldered to the three main boards, inside] it would be a BIG job for a novice like me, and I don't want to damage this beautiful multimeter further. Also, I couldn't find ANY information online, whatsoever regarding this brand - much less find a schematic for it. So, if you have any advise, insight or whatever, please share it with me. Thank you kindly and be safe.
@SBHSGA
@SBHSGA 6 лет назад
don't forget to link to the seal helper's RU-vid channel! he/she had the right idea! :)
@mosesjurassic3686
@mosesjurassic3686 5 лет назад
Insane but awesome!
@michaelhawthorne8696
@michaelhawthorne8696 7 лет назад
Nice repair.... Tenacity must be your middle name
@blubbspinat9363
@blubbspinat9363 7 лет назад
The defective BCD decoder just looks like a BCD to decimal decoder IC with high voltage driver output. If so, the K155ID1, a russian IC could be a suitable replacement. And it is still available at reasonable prices NOS.
@Culturedropout
@Culturedropout 6 лет назад
In another 40 years some poor schmuck is going to open that thing to try and fix it again and be completely bewildered by the "updates". XD Great video, and your voice is very relaxing. :)
@jamesmaxwell381
@jamesmaxwell381 6 лет назад
Fantastic repair!. I mean, the way you broken the problem to pieces and found out which part of the system does what, is it learned by experience and guesses or is there a systematic procedure for troubleshooting electronics?
@reps
@reps 6 лет назад
I don't think there is a general purpose recipe to repair everything, but if there is a working duplicate somewhere it usually is very helpful to exchange parts and see with which part the problem stays
@gvukster
@gvukster 5 лет назад
DAMN AMAZING!!!! Cheers from Canada!!
@IvanIvanov-id3de
@IvanIvanov-id3de 7 лет назад
You may try к155ид1 for the drivers :)
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