Signing Ohtani is a business move. The ROI will be far more than 700m for the dodgers over the next decade. He is not just a baseball player, but a global sports icon.
Not many players in baseball have been able to do what this man has done. You’re getting two players in one if his elbow comes back to 100% from the surgery. Time will tell, hoping to see him be as dominating again.
As a former Mariner fan, a mid-market, highly profitable team that gaslights its fans into believing Seattle is a small market, I have a slightly different take on small market teams like the Orioles etc. Every once in a while, like every 10 years or so, small market teams get it right by drafting and developing well, and they go to the playoffs. But the competitive window closes quickly as developed players get expensive. Meanwhile, the Yankees, Dodgers, Mets and occasionally a few other teams like the Rangers, can just open the checkbook, and have a shot that very next season. It's not a guarantee of winning, but it does create instant competitiveness. Sorry, but it's a crappy system.
Shohei once said he was going to join Dodgers when he graduated Highschool but he ended up playing for Japanese professional baseball that resulted in increasing baseball fans in Japan…. His focus always has been passion rather than money. He has made so many choices over money for years and that is one of many reasons he is loved and respected so much by Japanese.
Honestly I feel bad for the jays.. after yesterday I thought for sure ohtani was going to the jays. They need him more than we do but can’t complain!🎉😂
As a Jays fan this is just, once again, proof that superstars never choose to come to Toronto. It doesn’t matter that sport. Just another offseason of disappointment.
I would have respected him more if he chose the Jays. With the Jays you become THE guy. It's kind of like the Heat when Lebron, Wade and Bosh were there.
As a Ms fan I wonder how julio feels about his contract now. His is 12 years at 209 million. Acuna must feel like he got robbed at 8/100 lol. The game needs a cap or there will be more lockout and strike seasons
Oakland total salary last year 44million. Dodgers sign 1 player, 700million 😳😳😳 If they put a Cap in tho, those small teams likely wouldn't hit the floor. Oakland makes 200mil a year as a Team. ⚾ has gotten crazy. 💯💯💯
@@ghosttownbound Something like this will happen in Vegas. Marlins' 2012 payroll was $107 million. 2013 payroll was $25 million. Fisher will do the same when the A's he spent a lot of money on don't win or get injured in 2028. Everyone knows who isn't a Nevada politician that that is precisely what he'll do and he won't have Oakland tv money to take up the slack. Why they think being in Vegas will change Fisher's Modus Operandi is way beyond me. Do they believe what he says he'll do? What did MLB promise them behind closed doors because I thought they were more savvy than to believe someone like Fisher. They have almost 20 years of a history of being in the bottom 25% of payroll and with massive roster turnovers to show what kind of owner Fisher is. Biggest free agent contract handed out by Fisher was two contracts given to Coco Crisp that totaled 53 million for 6 years when he was traded. He has been like that even with winning seasons, he dumps players before they get expensive and back to last place. Fisher isn't going to change because he changed cities.
I was pulling for the Blue Jays. The AL east battles with the Yankees wouldve been epic. But the battle against Padres, Dbacks, Braves, Phillies should be great too.
I feel sorry for angel fans because they should've traded him last season and would have got alot more. Hope this is not a big waste of money. Need to win chip soon
@@TaboozaAs a Dodgers fan I should be pissed about your comment, but part of me feels you are right. The reason why I feel you are right is because Dave Roberts is still the manager. Maybe if anything now Ohtani could have a hand to get him fired. I can see a situation down the road in the playoffs, Ohtani has a no-hitter or shutout going after 6 innings, then Roberts will do the typical Roberts thing, remove a dominant Ohtani and the bullpen will blow it. Perhaps that will piss Ohtani so much that demands ownership make a change.
Hey Hal, thanks for getting Soto, but if you want to WIN a WS, you’re gonna need more ammo to beat the LAD……The big three they have of Betts, Freeman, and Ohtani, trumps Soto and Judge…….you’re a stud hitter behind…..that could be fixed by signing BELLINGER, but I wouldn’t wait because he’s gonna go real soon…..he’s the perfect fit in that he can cover CF until Dominguez gets back, take over 1st base when Rizzo’s gone, play any OF spot, and DH, not to mention another lefty bat with thump stretching out the lineup……please, he’s the perfect fit, don’t stop now if you’re SERIOUS about going all in.
I'm just so glad and grateful that it will be the Dodgers that suffer down the line with that massive contract. 700 million really? 500-550 ok but 700? For a damaged player with his 2nd surgery on his DOMINANT arm before age 30? His 2 way playing at an elite level has a very very limited shelf life. I'd say 3-5 years at best and that's being generous. Then what you have a injury prone getting older 70 million DH? Sure its all exciting now for fans but the hype will come back to earth oneday. Look at Trout as a prime example. People labeled him the next Mantle and now you barely hear about him. And his contract is puny compared to this monster of a contract.. he's already showed plenty of signs his 2 way playing wont last. I mean to a smart GM, this contract should SCREAM danger. I knew he'd get paid but sheesh. Again, just happy its the Dodgers. On another note 📝 the people that are saying this is a "business" decision, the projected earnings from him money wise are way less then what they gave him. Dont believe me? Maybe do your research.
You think they gave 700 million because they think he’ll be this good for all 10 years? The whole purpose of this is to lock in an all-time hall of famer in his prime for the next 4-5 years, anything after that is an ADDITION not the expectation. The money is pennies for an org like the dodgers. The team’s revenue in 1 season will be orders of magnitude above what they’re paying him for 10 years. Also, it makes the dodgers a prime location for top tier talent in the NPB. Fans play checkers, successful organizations play chess.
@andrewchang7194 oh yeah there really playing chess alright 🤫 idc what organization your in, 700 million is no drop in the bucket for NO TEAM. You really think the Dodgers "needed" Shohei to attract talent my guy? There like the Yankees, they always attract big names. Sure it helps some for the short term but now they just have 1 highly overpaid injury prone 2 surgery international player.. they need pitchers. Bats wasnt really a problem for them. He's not pitching for at least another year and when he does, how long until he rips that injured arm of his? Sure his bat will add depth to the roster but when my man has to give up pitching, with all them other mega contracts on the books, who are they gonna get Mr chess? They would have to take on nearly a half billion dollar yearly salary cap to do anything of meaning. There now paying "one" guy 70 million a year. In the game of baseball, one guy will never get the job done as baseball is a team sport. From a financial standpoint, they will surely sell jerseys, ads and merchandise from over hyped fans like yourself but for how long? Then what? You got a injury prone past his prime 70 million dollar DH? I can tell your a short term thinker and not a long term one. Yeah any smart GM would 100% pass on this. I would get in this day in age paying dude 500 or 550 but 700? No I'm good.
Obviously, the media neither watches the games nor places any value to the statistics. Add Othani to the 2023 Dodgers...replace no player-allow the Dodgers to use two DH's...and Atlanta STILL out-hits, out-homers and outscores LA. I am not disrespecting the Dodgers in any way, shape or form...they have a great team...but the media pays no attention to the fact that the Braves have assembled one of the top 2 or 3 offenses in the history of the game.
The timing of the announcement makes perfect sense. Ohtani Dodgers jerseys will be flying off the racks just before Christmas (although an Ohtani Cubs jersey would be a funny gag gift for a diehard fan I know).
Rosenthal is right when he says this is good for the game. This deal could influence elite, young athletes to choose baseball over football and basketball.
I disagree, Ohtani is an outlier. Once the season starts people will slowly forget about him especially if he doesn't produce. They will then eventually turn on him because he can't win alone. He only cares about the money . winning 😂 ,ok.
He's already 30... isn't going to pitch...When he did pitch last year, he got lit up a lot. I dunno man... Good guy though, We'll miss him on the Angels.
I'm a #yankees fan... I'm happy we got #soto now the #yankees have to offer a close if not the same amount of a contract for 10 years... Good luck to the #dodgers
You're not just paying for production, you're paying for marketability. The Angels got a lot more ad dollars from Japan *AND* so did the other 29 teams when Shohei was playing in their stadium.
I don’t think he was ever going to Toronto. Maybe the deferred $$ is the amount the Dodgers paid over the Blue Jays’ offer so he can say he took a higher bid to go where he always wanted to go anyway
Wow, I never thought a team would still give Shohei 700 mil after his injury. I thought it would be around 500 mil was the right number. Trout's contract seems to be tiny compared to Shohei's. lol
That's why you're not running things. The marketing potential alone the ad and merch revenue, the ticket sales, broadcast rights, all of baseball wins. Even if Ohtani lasts 5 years.
@@rickdeckard9810 I don't know about that. The deal could become the best or worst, it all depends on how much Shohei can stay healthy and contribute. If he starts sucking, you think those ads and merch revenue will be as high? But I do hope he will shine and win at least a Championship before he retires. It's his second surgery that's concerning.
@@rickdeckard9810he wont make them that much money my man. Maybe your math is a little off. Now a contract of 500 million sure but 700? Unless the unicorn 🦄 blows gold bars out his butt I doubt it very highly man.
It is ridiculous when is it going to end 70 million a year people live paycheck to paycheck in this country to me it is a criminal an everyday person it would take 70 life times to make 70 million dollars. We make these guys out to be gods there something wrong with this country help the needy not over pay someone who can hit a ball throw a pass or sink a basket they don't care about the fans just themselves.
the dodgers are consistently winning their division each season...which proves they are title contenders...ohtani did not sign for the money...all this $ is just a bonus...ohtani is a winner & he deserves to be on a winning side...congrats to the UNICORN on a historical achievement...& as a baseball player myself & fan of the game...so excited to see ohtani & dodgers in post-season
Look at NYM. Paying a lot of money is no guarantee that you will be the best in the world. This is not a sport where adding one great player will ensure a championship. Looks like they need to add some good pitchers.
Wonder when a team will offer a contract with a share (%) of the team instead of cash. Might it be a way around the cap/luxury tax measurement? (It's not direct cash compensation.)
These salaries make the cost of going to games unaffordable for the common fan. Also, needing numerous streaming services to watch your team so that MLB can squeeze every last dime out of their loyal fans is really disappointing. MLB is doing the opposite of trying to grow the game and all these reporters saying how great this is because it’s a global news story need to get out of their bubble. This is good for you, who are profiting off the clicks. This is not good for fans.
@franksengatti5499 one guy making an average of 70 million in one year? Other teams cant compete with this. People will still pay to watch him if he made 20 to 25 million a year. Just like a washed up Adam Wainwright making around 20 million last year when he pitched like a 2 million dollar player. Baseball salaries have been out of control for far too long and the product on the field is degrading as well.
Oh really? So you are friends of the GMs of all the other teams. Let's be honest, even most if not all of the other GMs know what the other teams offered. He is certainly worth 700 mil. How do I know? Because I'm a capitalist. You are worth what they are willing to pay.
Oh man glad we didn't lose him to Canada. Cold and boring. And Chicago? Can people even get to Wrigley Field without the risk of catching a bullet? Plus Los Angeles is closer to Japan. So yeah, the Dodgers were the right choice.
I think this contract is the death knell of baseball. What will tickets cost? I wanted to be a baseball player and I never cared about the money. In fact, when I was very young, I had no idea they got paid anything for playing baseball. I am not paying stupid prices.
If what you said about Ohtani being all about the deferrals is true he will forever be enshrined as a dodger legend in fans eyes no matter what happens
Sadly, there are too many "fans" complaining about this contract, often without even knowing about the deferral that Ohtani himself offered. There's all this yapping about ticket prices (which were already too high for Dodger games), how Ohtani's contract prevents signing needed pitchers, etc. It's annoying to have so many negative fans looking for something to complain about instead of celebrating this massive addition of a transcendent athlete.
Don’t want to hear anyone complaining. Dodgers let players walk, passed on players last year just for this moment. I’m glad it all came to fruition. Shohei is THE ONE, and I’m even more glad now that they passed on Trea, Xander, Judge, Rodon and other names over the years that people were linking to LA. Shohei is truly the biggest fish of them all
🤔... Had to be a conspiracy theorist but seems awfully funny that the Yankees and Dodgers are getting the two best players only after a very boring rangers Diamondbacks world series will at least to the other 28 teams in baseball
You cant do that with baseball for multiple reasons some teams can't afford to speed 200-300 mill payroll even with shared revenue they have voted down salary cap over 20 times. Players and owners have to agree to one and they never have and probably never will
Depending on the actual lifetime of the payout the value of this contract isn't as valuable as the current 700 million report. Inflation will devalue the contract past the contract term of 10 years. As Ken said, factoring the additional years of deferral this contract value will be around current value of 500 million when the contract is fully paid out.
This contract of 10 years 700 million is historic on paper but the true value of it isn't historic. 10 years is the time of service Shohei will provide. But the payment is made beyond 10 years. Which, as one knows of inflation. $20 now is worth a lot less than $20 10 years ago and even much less 20 or 30 years ago. The question is did Shohei offer this contract flexibility to other teams.
Nobody should have went over 500 million. Just let him sit there...eventually he'd have to take it or go back to Japan. Future star free agents are now going to try and get 50 million + per season...which is fuckin' ridiculous. This is why AA is the best GM. Team friendly contracts...
Dodgers get $8.5 billion in TV money over 25 years started in 2014 and that works out to $320 million a year per Fangraphs. Japanese TV money will cover Ohtani's insurance in case he becomes disabled. The Dodgers really didn't need to defer the $70 million a year they can afford it. edit; $340 million a year, my mistake.
No question these types of contracts in baseball are bad for the game in reality nobody in sports is worth this type of money I always been a big fan of baseball but seriously $700 millions to play baseball well good for Ohtani and bad for the fans because they’re the ones that are going to pay his salary.
How is it a blow to any team? Has Ohtani and the Angels ever make the playoffs? 70M a year, that's like $150k per at bat! Give me a break. Teams that didn't sign him are lucky.
This is the baseball equivalent of Lebron going to the heat. The pressure will be on for them to win more than ever, I sure hope they get bounced round 1 again.
Wasn't he making 70mil last year with the Angels? 30 million in salary and 40 million from endorsements. Now that he's in a big market you can only imagine how much he'll be making from endorsements. Not surprised he's okay with the deferrals.
MLB did not want the unicorn of the sport going to Canada. Everybody is shitting on the reporting last night, but I believe that the Jays were on Ohtani and when the MLB and the Dodgers realzed that, they were like, no way in hell is he going to Canada. The MLB essentially sabotaged the Jays from getting Ohtani. Too bad we up here can't say FU to MLB cause we love the sport too much. By getting Shohei to the Dodgers and creating all the shenanigans around deferrals, MLB is essentially doing what FIFA did to Messi, delivering a championship to its best player.
I don't think that it was MLB, I think the Dodgers didn't want to look like chumps and let the Blue Jays come in and steal away Ohtani, just like the Cubs came in and stole Counsell away from the Mets and Uncle Stevie Cohen!
I think there's way more cons than pros with this signing amount. It kills the smaller market teams even more and not because you can't win with a low payroll, but it's harder to sell tickets when you can't ever land any bigger names. Also, other players will be asking for insane amounts next year and say "Well Ohtani got this" even though he's by far the most marketable player and the Dodgers will likely make back 400-500 million of that contract from that alone. Ohtani is a unicorn but I think other players seeing that 700 mill will cause some issues.
while i do agree with your 'salary inflation issue', I am not so sure about the casual effect with Ohtani's dodgers contract. I doubt mlb players/agents can come to the negotiation table with that "well ohtani got this" argument, without the owner/GM laughing them out the door with the "well, can you pitch and bat, and bring in usd350m revenue from japan+asia?". I would think the finger should be pointing to the Rendons, Machados and the alikes, for causing other players and their agents to ask for ever increasing salaries. "Well, Rendon got this, and barely played 🤣".
There not going to make 500 million on that contract, they will make the same the t.v contract done already and they sold out alot last year so you have to sell out every game just to make a little money. Clothes make money but four to five hundred million I would be surprised.
Shohei Othani is a mediocre pitcher and a good hitter but a glorified DH. 700 million dollar contract to a 31 year old? Crazy. Insanity. Mind boggling.
@@ernestohernandez9316 TBH, I do agree that 700m is excessive for any player even for someone like Ohtani and he doesn't even need it with all the sponsorships. However OP is delusional to classify MVP level performance as just mediocre when this is 1 person doing both "at the same time"
@@etamommy unless he has a bionic arm like the T 1000 no way he’s pitching high 90s consistently as a starter again. Still can’t get over this contract. Bobby Bonilla contract on steroids
wow 432000 dollars every game no matter playing or not or on IL I wonder what his superstar teamates think of him is he really worth 40 something million or more a year than mookie and freddie freeman best pure hitter in baseball and mookie greatest athlete can play almost any position ..lets face it will he ever be a number one pitcher again ? maybe but for how long the amount of money is amazing for a DH
Now the Pads need to trade Tatis and Bogaerts to the Angels for Cabbage (1B/DH), Moniak (CF), Adell (RF), Sandoval (SP), and Rendon (3B/1B/DH). Both teams need a major reset.
Yamamoto hasn't pitched in MLB. Boras will start out at 700 mil now. Yamamoto will sign for 600 mil. After the Yankees and Mets go neck and neck. In the end the Yankees will outbid everyone and highly overpay for Yamamoto. The Yankees won't be outbid. They will pay a massive load and go as high as they need to. In the end it might be close to 700 mil.
