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Keto Diet Tip: Can Protein Kick You Out of Keto? Thomas DeLauer…
Gluco: Glucose
Neo: New
Genesis: Origin or creation
Gluconeogenesis (GNG) is a metabolic pathway that allows your liver and kidneys to make glucose from non-carbohydrate sources. It’s always happening in your body, but its rate can increase or decrease depending on your metabolic state (although seems to stay relatively constant) It’s the creation of glucose from anything but carbs - this means that even when you are on a low carb diet, your body still manages to make enough glucose to survive by breaking down other compounds, which are called gluconeogenic substrates (gluconeogenic = can turn into glucose)
Gluconeogenic substrates:
Lactate: Lactate or lactic acid is the major gluconeogenic substrate. It’s derived from pyruvate - the direct product of glucose or glycogen breakdown.
Glucogenic amino acids (aka protein): Amino acids can be divided into ketogenic (stimulate ketone production), glucogenic (stimulate glucose production), or both. Every single amino acid can be turned into glucose except for lysine and leucine, which are exclusively ketogenic.
Glycerol: After lactate and glutamine, glycerol is the third most used substrate. It comes from fat breakdown
Gluconeogenesis is Necessary… Your cells use gluconeogenesis to ensure you don’t die when there are no carbs in your system. Our body can’t ever drop glucose levels to zero, even on ketosis - just as too much glucose is toxic, too little can kill you. Gluconeogenesis is always happening, however, it increases significantly when your carb consumption is low.
This happens after a meal, while you sleep, during a fast, during an extended fast total glucose goes down only because glycogenolysis declines as glycogen stores run out, but GNG stays the same
when your body runs out of glycogen, it relies completely on gluconeogenesis
Protein, Gluconeogenesis & Ketosis:
Study - The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism
6 healthy males (aged 29-55 years) were studied on three separate occasions after an overnight fast. Researchers quantified gluconeogenesis and glycogenolysis after 11 days of high carbohydrate (85% carbohydrate), control (44% carbohydrate), and very low carbohydrate (2% carbohydrate) - Diets were eucaloric and provided 15% of energy as protein. Researchers found that when on a high fat diet containing 83% of calories from fat and 2% from carbs for 11 days, they had a decrease in total glucose but a 14% increase in gluconeogenesis. So, despite this increase, people on a keto a diet can still run on ketones without a problem.
Researchers found that on keto, excess glucose made from gluconeogenesis was stored as glycogen instead of being used as fuel
These findings prove that you can actually replenish glycogen through the GNG that happens during ketosis. This doesn’t happen during fasting or in the fat adaptation period because your body is using all the glucose from gluconeogenesis for fuel. On keto, your body already has a better fuel - ketones - so it can afford to store up excess glucose as glycogen.
Hormonal Response & Gluconeogenesis (Insulin & Glucagon)
“Excess protein is mainly oxidized and burned for energy. This results in lower ketone levels because ketosis relies on ‘fat derived’ fuels. The body will not create many ketones when there is an excess amount of non-fat derived energy.
References:
1) Gluconeogenesis: What It Is and Why You Shouldn't Fear It On Keto - Perfect Keto Exogenous Ketones. (2018, July 20). Retrieved from www.perfectket...
2) Effects of Carbohydrate Variation in Isocaloric Diets on Glycogenolysis and Gluconeogenesis in Healthy Men * | The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism | Oxford Academic. (2000, May 1). Retrieved from academic.oup.c...
3) Protein Over-consumption in Ketogenic Diets Explained - Ketogains. (2016, August 22). Retrieved from ketogains.com/...
4) Gluconeogenesis - The worst name for a rock band ever - Ketogains. (2017, July 27). Retrieved from ketogains.com/...
5) More Than You Ever Wanted to Know About Protein & Gluconeogenesis. (n.d.). Retrieved from www.tuitnutriti...
6) Dietary Protein and the Blood Glucose Concentration. (n.d.). Retrieved from www.ncbi.nlm.n...
7) Jahoor F , et al. (n.d.). The relationship between gluconeogenic substrate supply and glucose production in humans. - PubMed - NCBI. Retrieved from www.ncbi.nlm.n...

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@salmank9123
@salmank9123 5 лет назад
I believe watching any more of Thomas' videos will just stop me from actually eating anything at all, and survive on air.
@wearejungians
@wearejungians 5 лет назад
Salman Khan Studies have shown that air produces an effect in the body known as OxyNeoGenesis which can counter all of your hard work with the Keto diet. Best to move to another planet. 🤷‍♂️
@sashouskyy3653
@sashouskyy3653 5 лет назад
Look at his last video he loves protein again hahahaha
@gramajan4
@gramajan4 5 лет назад
@@wearejungians 😂
@wowbddlz8334
@wowbddlz8334 5 лет назад
So ends up fasting all the time LOL cuz you're hesitating what to eat
@DropForgedSurvival
@DropForgedSurvival 5 лет назад
*We just got done with 30 Days in the Woods... Nothing but Protein from Caught food such as fish... My Keto meter ranked me at 3.2..... Pure Protein and Fat and very much in Ketosis.*
@qthirteen13
@qthirteen13 5 лет назад
DropForgedSurvival yes sir...I’m doing Carnivore and also dipping into ketosis whenever necessary all without trying...lol
@aaronperkins894
@aaronperkins894 5 лет назад
@@swamphawk6227 lol
@brendonlantz9669
@brendonlantz9669 5 лет назад
So the people that are on carnivore. Please tell me wat are your macros. I follow keto. But train 6 days a week. So i think carnivore might be good for me. But i dont know how much my macros should be.
@aaronperkins894
@aaronperkins894 5 лет назад
@@brendonlantz9669 If you're doing carnivore the macros should take care of themselves as long as you're not pounding chicken breasts or other lean cuts of meat. Just stick to your calorie goal
@aaronperkins894
@aaronperkins894 5 лет назад
And if I'm mistaken someone please correct me, don't want to give false info
@JenniferMyers
@JenniferMyers 5 лет назад
If I don’t eat enough protein I lose my period. As soon as I overcame my “fear” of too much protein on Keto, my overall system improved so much. Hormonally it is necessary, for my body anyway.
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial 5 лет назад
Jennifer Myers at the end of the day, bio individuality will trump all
@ShipCreek
@ShipCreek 5 лет назад
I found my sweet spot for protein is 80-90gm. Far too low by some people but absolutely perfect for me. Im now thriving. I had forgotten there was such a thing😊
@JenniferMyers
@JenniferMyers 5 лет назад
Well said, Thomas.
@1MelindaC
@1MelindaC 5 лет назад
Jennifer Myers this has been happening to me. I only recently worked out that I need more protein. I'm small framed and not looking to lose much weight, and keto calculators seem to set my macros too low. Of course I first thought it must be my electrolytes imbalanced or getting kicked out of k, which just confused me more. But no... I was losing muscle mass and strength, but not necessarily fat. There should be more information about this.
@arktana
@arktana 5 лет назад
thanks for sharing! this is important.
@LindaLTPs
@LindaLTPs 5 лет назад
Thanks for making this easier to understand! I’ve been with the ketogenic woe for 15mos and have lost 130lbs, however the weight loss has slowed down significantly and I still need to lose another 70-80lbs. So many people have suggested that I don’t need to worry about that fat %, because my body will just use its own. The suggestion was to keep hitting my protein macro, but cut back on my fat intake. That’s been leaving me tired and has brought back the cravings I thought I got rid of a year ago. After seeing this, I’m gonna increase my fat intake again, focus more on feeling better, and just try to accept that it’s gonna take longer to lose these last 80lbs, than it did to lose the first 80lbs.
@zead1807
@zead1807 5 лет назад
Did it work?
@b4ds33d
@b4ds33d 2 года назад
@@zead1807 he ate himself.
@Lamentor219
@Lamentor219 5 лет назад
I'm watching the video, but I just want to say, on my Keto days, I was comparing around 110g of protein to 150g of protein, I can tell you I feel way better when I keep my protein at around 150g.
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial 5 лет назад
Good to know!
@arswift2
@arswift2 5 лет назад
I can agree too about protein and feeling better. I'm not on a ketotonic diet as I am severely anemic, (iron transfusions while we test to find where I'm pooling), vitamin D and magnesium deficient. But, I have muscle issues from fibromyalgia and I've cut sugar during 5 out of 7 days and caffeine 5 of 7 days but I added plant based protein powder within 30 min of waking. I drink so far 25g in the morning, along with my daily intake. (I did this as an experiment for 1 month and noticed the protein was essentially feeding and repairing my muscles... I felt better. 20 years plus of chronic illnesses. I went back to not intaking the plant base and I felt worse. I am overweight but I do exercise and run (even with me needing knee replacement). So, I am thing I'm gonna go to whey next.
@MrTheknowabout
@MrTheknowabout 5 лет назад
Does that mean you were eating 700 grams meat a day.
@siralex3260
@siralex3260 5 лет назад
me too, ate 900 gram meat today
@cosmicsurfer736
@cosmicsurfer736 5 лет назад
@@siralex3260 cannibals are here
@szpoti
@szpoti 4 года назад
A very very punchy and powerful ending about focusing on your family. Cheers, Thomas!
@ingdalvarez
@ingdalvarez 5 лет назад
Thomas can someday make a video about how can we improve our children’s food? Alternatives to all the sugary stuff they eat and we as parents try to avoid. Thanks !
@ProfBlaq
@ProfBlaq 5 лет назад
Just had this convo today. I recently started going heavy in the gym and figured I'd need more protein to develop and grow the muscle. I have been fine with the increase. Thanks for the confirmation man
@thewandasncrediblechannel
@thewandasncrediblechannel 5 лет назад
I was always on this fence as to whether this was true or not...Thanks for breaking it down. #liked #shared
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial 5 лет назад
Quite a confusing topic that needed to be cleared up
@qthirteen13
@qthirteen13 5 лет назад
Thomas DeLauer not confusing...just a newbie question...it will always come up because people latch on to ideas blasted into the media and general environment without getting off their arse and looking into it in further detail....anyone can learn this....they just have to use their head and read beyond the headline ... lol
@MrBewbielover
@MrBewbielover 5 лет назад
Only if you believe the masses spouting crap on social media. Ask about why carnivores are in keto 24/7 365 days a year and they don't know what to say.
@AllisonReece
@AllisonReece 5 лет назад
I am a 57 yr old woman. Eating a strict Carnivore diet for over 6 months now. I eat in 18/6 window, eating OMAD, some days 2x a day. I wasn't losing weight even those working out 5x a week. I was so sleepy after eating a fatty meats. Also, my blood sugar meter readings were high, even though not a diabetic. My ketones were below 0.5. I had to do something, so I cut back my protein, and immediately my blood sugar went down in the low 90's and my ketones went up to 1.7. Plus, I feel better.
@wehavetogoback369
@wehavetogoback369 5 лет назад
Excellent! I've been into keto on and off for the past couple of years now and only after this video does it make sense that you can consume the higher amounts of protein if you want, so long as they are offset by enough fats as well. Very useful considering how easy it can be to get fats in when you really want them.
@EfrenCanzana
@EfrenCanzana 5 лет назад
Fasted 48 hrs and had my glucose checked. Marked 61. Following day, played ball and had my blood glucose checked again, went up to 112! Where did all the glucose come from? Gluconeogenesis?
@mthalmann2
@mthalmann2 5 лет назад
Thomas, I am so glad you posted this video. You may have already seen some of the work done by Benjamin Bickman on "insulin vs Glucagon". Long story short, he postulates that it's not the insulin that halts ketosis but the insulin to glucagon ratio. And that when you eat protein while in a state of nutritional ketosis that while your insulin goes up, the glucagon goes up in the same ratio... So the glucagon to insulin ratio still favors glucagon... So glucagon still wins those cellular transactions and keeps you in ketosis and in a positive metabolic state. He even goes on to say that in their studies, people who ate higher protein had higher Ketone levels. This was leading down the road to the carnivore diet I am sure, but I wanted to get your feedback on that. Or at least have you listen to the same thing that I just listened to, and see if I misheard it. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-z3fO5aTD6JU.html
@mohanadelnokali
@mohanadelnokali 5 лет назад
Yeah that video is excellent and very convincing..
@prestonnoble
@prestonnoble 5 лет назад
Thalmann YES LOVE Benjamin Bickmans videos!!!! I took special note on a few of his slides when talking about the insulin : glucagon ratio. Knowing sooo many people would hear his first protein statement and Run with it!!! (and from many of the comments on his video, thats exactly what people did "Oh Protein doesn't matter on keto") He specifically said "the underlying state may be useful for determining which is best". Which is best, referring to which percentage of protein you eat. Someone more on the Hyperglycemia/Hyperinsulinemia side (or I would add probably a majority of people overweight just starting keto) maybe best start with lower protein. Whereas someone on the Euglycemia/Euinsulinemia side (or maybe after a few weeks/when fat adapted) maybe best to eat moderate protein. Or 1-2 g/kg body weight/day, as he specifically shows in his slide. Hahah but thats just my understanding of the information Benjamin presented, someone else could come out with a totally different take. Even though I:G ratio isn't touched on, I do feel the info Thomas presents here is for the most part in unison with Benjamin. Thanks for the post.... good reminder I needa go rewatch more of Benjamins stuff.
@kaiseri.4641
@kaiseri.4641 5 лет назад
Because of this channel I try to improve my english. We dont have in East Europe people like Thomas, lucky muricans😁😀
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial 5 лет назад
hahah! Thanks for being here though!
@Solidfreeman01
@Solidfreeman01 5 лет назад
We have better people close enough in Europe. :-D In Germany. Daniel Pugge.
@monikaganymede6956
@monikaganymede6956 5 лет назад
We don't have anybody like Thomas here in Prague, the Czech Republic. Many greetings!!!
@kaiseri.4641
@kaiseri.4641 5 лет назад
@@williamashbee The foods in Europe are full with soy, sugar and palm oil. All things have E104, E105 and etc.... Yes sure its really "healthy".
@kaiseri.4641
@kaiseri.4641 5 лет назад
@@williamashbee you are right. The problem in Europe is, that the real foods are really expensive for the normal people. There is 30 eggs for 3 euro(bad quality) and the good quality is for 6 euro. Thats why Iam doing Omad diet.
@benchang1022
@benchang1022 5 лет назад
I’m a disabled vet who lost 40 lbs because of your videos. Thank you for making my road to recovery so much more accessible.
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial 5 лет назад
I am so glad these videos help! I appreciate you tuning in!!
@craigd123
@craigd123 3 года назад
How do you help the animals now?
@gpirker
@gpirker 5 лет назад
So if consuming too less fat is the caveat, what about the quote "fat can come either from the plate or from your body"? Do you think this does not apply? Or maybe only for people with higher body fat percentage?
@samsolace86
@samsolace86 5 лет назад
Wow, so I’ve been misinformed this entire time, I had to stop eating chicken breast due to the high protein, low fat ratio, but thanks for explaining this in great depth. Very helpful.. this is why I always look forward to your content
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial 5 лет назад
Awesome. So stoked it helped you
@zeitgeist8870
@zeitgeist8870 5 лет назад
You forgot to mention glucose derived from the triglyceride backbone “glycerol.” Not exactly relevant to the topic of too much protein during keto but it is worth remembering that glycerol is converted into glyceraldehyde-3-phosphate and can then enter either gluconeogenesis to form glucose or glycolysis to form pyruvate.
@claymartin3382
@claymartin3382 2 года назад
What I struggle with to understand is on Keto you shouldn't eat often, correct? 3 meals a day? I've read your body can only process 30 grams of protein every two hours give or take. Which is tough to fit in for a 200 lb male. So on Keto how do we manage to get enough protein with this scenario? I'd appreciate any articles or tips!
@mohanadelnokali
@mohanadelnokali 5 лет назад
Thomas this is by far one of the best videos about gluconeogenesis out there and one of your best videos yet! Finally an end to this hot debate!
@paolamolinari364
@paolamolinari364 5 лет назад
Yes!! Exactly, I don't have any trouble with eating lots of protein because I never skimp on my fats!
@macready1713
@macready1713 5 лет назад
Thomas, I take BCAAs during my work out about 2-4 hours after breakfast. I then complete my workout with a scoop of whey and collagen. My thought process on this is that spiking my insulin with just BCAAs and protein will help shuttle the protein in after my workout. Then about 1-2 hours later I’ll add more fats. Is this the right way to think about it or am I off? Awesome video as always. Thanks
@HughGRexshin_
@HughGRexshin_ 5 лет назад
What about collagen peptide protein? Does that spike insulin levels or does unflavored protein powder spike?
@petersitell4751
@petersitell4751 5 лет назад
I am on my fifth week of IF and Keto and this video just came in the right moment ! I am not american, but I think you should run for President! Thank you so much Thomas for your clever and deep analyze that you educate with such a simple clarity!
@DJP4Liberty
@DJP4Liberty 5 лет назад
Don't forget that gluco-neogenesis can also utilize body fat to produce blood sugar. I'm not sure why this fact is often ignored when entering into the GNG discussion. "Gluconeogenesis (GNG) is a metabolic pathway that results in the generation of glucose from certain non-carbohydrate carbon substrates. From breakdown of proteins, these substrates include glucogenic amino acids (although not ketogenic amino acids); from breakdown of lipids (such as triglycerides), they include glycerol, odd-chain fatty acids (although not even-chain fatty acids, see below); and from other steps in metabolism they include pyruvate and lactate." It is much less metabolically expensive to produce glucose from lipids - especially triglycerides.
@NIKO4984
@NIKO4984 5 лет назад
Thomas thank you for making this video, i think i know now why i fainted at my concert a few weeks ago. I was in Keto therefore gluconeogenesis was happening however after I drank a bottle of wine I think it disrupted the process and therefore my brain could not get the needed oxygen/glucose and that is why I passed out.
@Imstillyoshi
@Imstillyoshi Год назад
Wowww... dude... been going thru some dietary and experimentation and A LOT OF THINGS ARE MAKING SO MUCH SENSE RN!!! Thank u
@randomlylegend
@randomlylegend 2 года назад
Just to add, Glycerol is also used in Gluconeogenesis to produce Glucose My question: let's say the body is producing ketons but needs a bit of sugar to fuel the brain, kidneys, red blood cells etc.... We have three ways to do that - use Lactate, Proteins and Glycerol to produce extra glucose. How is the body choosing what to use first, anything got priority over the others? Thanks
@andriyskrinnik2758
@andriyskrinnik2758 5 лет назад
I heard eating adequate protein also helps with nutrient absorption such as calcium and magnesium. Would like to know if Epsom salt is a good way to get more magnesium
@fullcend-tkm73
@fullcend-tkm73 5 лет назад
So I'm big on educating people and I'm also big on trying things out last week I did a segment where I consumed 2.5lbs of steak in 20 minutes my blood sugar only Rose from 92 to 103 and then right back down within an hour to 90 and then 3 hours later back to 88 There are some people that are hypersensitive to protein I get it but the majority of us are not going to get kicked out of ketosis because we have extra protein.... that is not how this works and I've been trying to tell people that but yet everybody knows what they're talking about too much protein turns to sugar right? Wrong
@brandyntillman9575
@brandyntillman9575 5 лет назад
One of my favorite channels back at it again with the knowledge bombs.
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial 5 лет назад
I try :) thanks man
@micalhull7463
@micalhull7463 5 лет назад
Please do a keto video from the standpoint of type 2 diabetes. I have so many questions! I've been on keto over 2 months but still don't know if I've ever gone into ketosis. Blood sugar is normal now but wonder if my A1C level is in normal range for ketosis to happen? 26 pounds gone, glimeperide gone and have a great doctor who supports me in this diet! Any direction and suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
@robertguilbault7248
@robertguilbault7248 5 лет назад
Congrats on 1 Million. Thanks for all the helpful info.
@depreps772
@depreps772 5 лет назад
Another helpful video Thomas. So basically I shouldn't be afraid of killing a 14 oz. Steak as long as I still eat an avocado and wash it down with some keto coffee w maybe an extra spoonful of coconut oil. Awesome.
@supreme84x
@supreme84x 5 лет назад
5:25, I think you need a clarification there. In a previous video I think you stated that you get into ketosis once the stored liver glycogen is exhausted. Yet here you made it sound like you go into ketosis after your muscle glycogen is exhausted and this glyco-neogensis runs its coarse.
@LovingAtlanta
@LovingAtlanta 5 лет назад
👍You are so smart. Thank you for making this easy to understand. Yes a video on lactate & lactic acid and how it can convert to glucose for energy would be great. 😃💞
@clevitationcr1982
@clevitationcr1982 5 лет назад
Please explain how much of carbs(including sugar and what types of carbs), fat combination in a meal will lead to spike of insulin and generally recommendations when carbs, fats are combined in a meal. Also its recommended not to combine carbs with animal proteins as it'll bring body to neutral state instead of alkaline, not sure if its a myth. Please explain this as well.
@fullcend-tkm73
@fullcend-tkm73 5 лет назад
This is why I only eat fatty cuts of meat and never lean, I can absolutely eat as much as I want and never have to worry about gluconeogenesis and that's the majority of people Other than natural demand driven gluconeogenisis most never have an issue from over eating protein.
@jancrha2154
@jancrha2154 5 лет назад
The anabolic diet calls for a dedicated high fat/ high protein/ low carb diet at roughly 55-60 percent fat, 30-35 percent protein and no more than 30 grams of carbohydrates.
@AJ-sr2dv
@AJ-sr2dv 5 лет назад
I have a question. How is the process different when you see people on a straight carnivore diet. I mean most are comsuming fatty cuts of meat but their fat to protein ratio is way lower then say a keto diet. (Protien is way higher) Yet they stay in ketosis and also blood sugar/ glucose stays low. I was just curious as I am new to all of this.
@svrfx3573
@svrfx3573 5 лет назад
Thomas I dont experience muscle soreness from weight training and for the last month I have been following your constant muscle tension, I also do high rep range and I am adding weight to most body parts. Could it be that my lactate is being scavenged right away, thru gluconeogenises?
@erichieger7386
@erichieger7386 5 лет назад
Great! Just clarifying the very end re: 2:1 ratio of fats:protein... in total calories or grams? Is this the ideal ratio in general? And the overall ratio of carbs:fats:protein calories for keto that you recommend? Thanks!
@wcgreenway
@wcgreenway 5 лет назад
I believe he is referring to the macro percentages... conservative ratios are -- 5% carb 65% fat 30% protein (in terms of calories from that nutrient type) -- so 65 is a little over double 30 ... I would imagine there's still room in there depending on physiology and activity levels. Practical example: my current target allocation of calories is 1465/day -- 20g carbs (5%) / 105g fat (65%) / 110g protein (30%) -- note the protein grams is higher than the fat because fat is 9 calories per gram / protein is 4 calories/gram.
@arktana
@arktana 5 лет назад
@@wcgreenway thank you. i hope this is what he meant.
@arpitbhardwaj5068
@arpitbhardwaj5068 5 лет назад
Best fitness channel on RU-vid so far so informative 🔥👍
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial 5 лет назад
Alphatistic thank you brother
@dialgafrost010
@dialgafrost010 5 лет назад
I like to break my 18 hours fasts with Bone broth with MCT oil and collagen peptide powder mixed in. How long should I wait before eating my first meal?
@davisa.j4518
@davisa.j4518 5 лет назад
Can you comment on Dr Ben Bikman's research inferring that Protein does not in fact spike insulin when in a fasted or low carb state?
@Kam500jam
@Kam500jam 5 лет назад
This guy is honestly the man he has answered everything I need to know and then some
@anureinn
@anureinn 5 лет назад
Wowww!!! Your vid and your crystal clear explanation brings me into a new paradigm of understanding about keto , protein intake , the need for fat and gluconeogenesis. Thank you very much 💖
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial 5 лет назад
anurein 0506 glad it helped!
@ewthmatth
@ewthmatth 4 года назад
2:1 ratio of fat to protein. Is this calories-wise or mass-wise
@tonyfudge5458
@tonyfudge5458 5 лет назад
Love the video! My trainer at my gym told me after an inbody measurement that I lost muscle because I don’t eat enough I told him I do a prolonged fast.
@pela699
@pela699 5 лет назад
Sorry tom, love your videos but there is a key fact that is incorrect. This is VERY important. Muscular glucose is NOT released into the blood. This process is not possible because myocytes lack a certain enzyme called Glucose-6-phosphatase which is required to transform glucose-6-phosphate(which can not exit the myocyte) into regular old glucose, which can exit the myocyte. This means that muscle will retain its glycogen reserves for about 48 hours if not forced into anaerobiosis (through heavy excercise) which is why you don't really lose muscle on IF and KETO. The main source of glucose through glycogenolysis and gluconeogenesis is the liver. That being said, you're doing awesome work!
@Yeeetuz
@Yeeetuz 5 лет назад
Is the 2:1 ratio meant for gram to gram or calories to calories. Also does protein need to be combined in fat at that ratio for every meal or total calories for the day at the 2:1 ratio. I'd love an answer thank you.
@johncampbell3208
@johncampbell3208 5 лет назад
BONEMAUL99 good question..was thinking same thing..always wonder that when they don’t specify...normally, tho it’s geared to caloric intake but not 100% sure this instance...
@Will-zg4ur
@Will-zg4ur 5 лет назад
It's calories
@nathanniyazov4526
@nathanniyazov4526 5 лет назад
Wait , but you recommend the “protein sandwich “ protocol when not fasting so does that mean that when you eat higher protein than fat then you will get kicked out of keto ? Please answer Thomas
@TheQuarterbackX
@TheQuarterbackX 5 лет назад
Very Interisting Video. It is always nice to hear from someone educated and knowledgeable on such subjects. As, you have most likely experance the two are not always connected hand and hand. I had learned much of this from my Kinesiology (Exercise Science) and Biology degree. Along with nutrition classes. Though you were able to talk a bit past what was covered and connections made on those classes. So, I always give acknowledgment where deserved. Thank you.
@skeeterburke
@skeeterburke 5 лет назад
youre so smart!!! i will watch this about 97 more times thank you ... i am killing a brain tumor with nutritional ketosis .... i have my masters degree in physics but theres still lots to learn!
@kurwinterrose7855
@kurwinterrose7855 5 лет назад
Best of luck to you:-)
@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit
@Man_in_a_Gucci_Suit 3 года назад
My mom had a brain tumor and used Arthur L. Day in Houston texas to remove it when it was touching her stem Highly recommend him if you need surgery
@pmfith
@pmfith 5 лет назад
You should also do a video on physiologic insulin resistance. I’ve been keto for years, and my fasting BG is almost always around 100 - 105. I’d think most people would freak out about this if they didn’t understand what’s going on.
@braden4813
@braden4813 5 лет назад
In molecular biochemistry learning about all of this right now!
@jennifermatthews5731
@jennifermatthews5731 5 лет назад
Is it true that you don’t need to worry about consuming a 2-1 ratio if you have fat on your body to utilize?
@GladniMarvin
@GladniMarvin 5 лет назад
I agree with you. Otherwise, consuming so much fat would cause a huge gain weight (fat). For example to remain my 85kg i need 1500 cal. If I use a 1,5g protein/kg (127,5g=510cal) then i need two times more fat (255g=2295cal) wich is more then I need to remain my weight but to high for bulk. 2805 cal/day is to high for me.
@bobcharlie6711
@bobcharlie6711 4 года назад
Eating fat doesn’t make you fat. Eating in a caloric surplus makes you fat.
@robjarz4370
@robjarz4370 5 лет назад
By 2 - 1 fat to protein, do you mean in calories or equal measurement of say gram to gram etc....also, does this same ratio apply to individuals seeking muscle growth and or maintenance with resistance training?
@Chipwhitley274
@Chipwhitley274 5 лет назад
It is based on calories. Which comes out to near a 1:1 fat to protein ratio in grams.
@MrGflan
@MrGflan 5 лет назад
Chipwhitley274 can you help me calculate? I am 150 pounds and wanted to know what .8 percent of grams for my body weight would look like? On some days I eat 136 grams and on others I can be over 200 grams. I work out with weights heavy 4 days a week and run 30 minutes of cardio every morning. Thanks for the help.
@Chipwhitley274
@Chipwhitley274 5 лет назад
@@MrGflan, I assume you are talking about grams of protein? Personally I would make it easy and just do a 1 to 1 ratio of Protein to Body Weight. Yes, the protein level has a range, and it can even be recommended to exceed the 1:1 ratio, but generally I'd say 1:1 is somewhere in the middle of the range, and it is simple to calculate and keep track of. So, that would mean 150 grams of protein per your 150 pound weight. But, if you plan on increasing your weight through increasing muscle, you will want to correspondingly increase the protein. But, if you are certain you want to do 80 percent (I assume you didn't actually mean 0.8 percent) then you merely take your target weight and multiply by 0.8, so... 150 x 0.8 = 120 grams of protein. As far as your other macros... if you are doing Keto then the Carbohydrates can also vary, and the more fit you are the more carbohydrates you can consume while staying in Ketosis... but, the amount that pretty much guarantees you will be in Ketosis regardless of your fitness level is around 20 grams of carbs or below, though many can be fine under around 40 grams of carbs. Test strips are inexpensive so I'd just suggest you test your Ketosis level to know for sure where you stand. The rest of your calories should be from fat, since you've figured out the protein and carb levels you need.
@MrGflan
@MrGflan 5 лет назад
Chipwhitley274 thank you!! This is very helpful. This is what I do pretty much every day: can of tuna and cauliflower rice for first meal, small amount of macadamia nuts. No snacking in between. Second and final meal is usually a large fatty protein portion of beef or steak and a big salad. So basically I do about 16-1700 calories per day, doing keto and also doing fasted 30 minutes cardio a day and non fasted heavy weight training 4 days per week. My goal is to be totally shredded and maybe perhaps compete as a physique athlete someday. Right now I’ve got nice ab definition and decent muscle tone, but I know I lost body fat way too fast to the point where now I need to lose a little more fat, but also recompose and gain more muscle. So in essence I guess you can say I want to shred the last bits of fat and keep and perhaps gain some muscle. Let me just say these two meals a day work well for me and I’m not depressed or needing more, starving. Probably from the second fattier, more caloric meal. You think this is too low? Maybe I should throw another meal in there? I hear all the time that physique competitors must be in calorie deficit to reach their low body fat goals. You think this could be accomplished on keto? Lately I have been doing a weekly refeed day of a cheat meal with ice cream. I know cheat meals are prob not a good idea, but then again I think it might be necessary if I am in a deficit all week and my metabolism may be slowing down too much. What do you think? I’d prefer to stay on keto and then do a wine day a week cheat, is it will help me get to my goals faster while letting me enjoy a Italian food meal and ice cream with the wife. What do you think? Sorry for a million questions Any advice much appreciated. Thanks!
@Chipwhitley274
@Chipwhitley274 5 лет назад
@@MrGflan, Besides full Carnivore, Keto is the most effective diet for weight loss. Calorie Deficit is required for any kind of weight loss, whether you need to only lose a small percentage of fat or a large percentage of fat. And the fewer calories the quicker you'll get there. However... you burn calories more efficiently with more muscle... so your diet needs to be one that prevents consuming your muscle in the process, which requires about 30% of your total daily fat requirement to be dietary... and the other 70% will be consumed from your body fat... this helps prevent your body from targeting your muscle tissue. As I understand it, your body prefers to consume carbohydrates first and foremost... and without carbohydrates it will switch over to consumption of body fat, but the transition from one to the other will include some consumption of either dietary fat or your muscle... so if you don't have enough dietary fat it will consume some muscle which is counter productive. Calories from protein needs to be about 30% of your total calories... the rest needs to be either all meat or carbs and meat. Let me break it down how it would look for me. I'm 160 pounds. If I do a 1:1 protein grams to pounds I weigh, then I need 160 grams of protein. There are 4 calories for every gram of protein There are also 4 calories for every gram of carbohydrate There are 9 calories for every gram of fat. So... 160 grams of protein multiplied by 4 equals 640 calories. Now, let's say I'm not doing a full Carnivore diet, so I consume 20 grams of carbohydrates a day. 20 multiplied by 4 equals 80 calories. So now I know how many calories I need from my protein and from my carbohydrates... and if my calories from protein should be 30% of my total calories... I take the 640 (protein) and divide by 0.3 to determine what 100% of my calories should be, which comes to 2133 calories... then I subtract the 640 (protein) and subtract the 80 (carbs) so my total remaining calories I need comes to 1413 calories. Now... I need to calculate what 30% of that is, in order to calculate my dietary fat, because 70% of fat will come from body fat. So I take 1413 and multiply by 0.3 which comes to 424 calories I need from dietary fat. Which is 47 grams of fat because there are 9 calories per gram of fat so 424 divided by 9 equals 47. So... I add the calories from protein, the calories from carbs, and the calories from dietary fat together... which comes to about 1144 calories... and, assuming all those are perfectly balanced, 1144 is the minimum amount of calories I can consume while also getting sufficient quantities of all my macros. Of course, it is hard to nail them all exactly right... so you will have variation and you will usually have higher amounts of fats and proteins. It is okay to have more fat, and more protein as long as you are meeting the minimums required for you. In my case I need to get at least 160 grams of protein, and 47 grams of dietary fat. As far as carbohydrates, it is the opposite... your goal there is not to get at least a certain amount, but rather to not get more than a maximum amount that you determine. So I float around 1200 calories. But it doesn't hurt to have 1400, 1800, 2000, etc... as long as you are still in calorie deficit... but, you just won't be burning as many calories, so it will just take longer. Also keep in mind that there are studies that suggest that your muscles can only utilize so many grams of protein to build and maintain muscle in one sitting. Some say this has been refuted, though I have yet to find any legitimate research refuting that belief... many base their claim on the fact that the body can utilize protein in other ways, so you can consume more protein than required and the protein will be used... it won't be just a waste... but the muscles still have a limit as to how much they can utilize. So, current understanding indicates that only 25 or so grams of protein is the amount that your muscles can use within a 3 hour window in the case of food, or a 2 hour window in the case of Whey Protein. This means it is probably a good idea to consume Whey protein throughout the day to achieve the protein level you need. If you have two meals then you might need 4 Whey protein drinks spread out. But remember, if you have a meal, you need to wait about 3 hours before having more protein... but if your last protein intake was Whey protein then you only need 2 hours before your next consumption. As far as re-feeding... some will do a carbohydrate heavy day to keep the metabolism up overall... and that may work well, though I don't have enough data to know the optimum frequency of doing this, and I don't know the minimum amount of carbs to successfully achieve this. But, I personally am not that concerned with re-feeding... because there is only so much your body can do to slow your metabolism... and to increase how quickly it converts carbs to body fat. I would just makes sure you know how your body has adapted to processing those things... and adjust how you eat to compensate. But that is just my personal opinion. I don't think there is anything wrong with the concept of re-feeding. If you aren't already aware of one... find a local supplement store, or medical facility that has the InBody Scanner... get a body composition scan done and it will tell you what your accurate body fat percentage is, it will tell you what your basal metabolic rate is, it will tell you what your muscle composition is in each of your limbs and your torso both in percentages and pounds. With this information you can accurately determine what fat percentage you are at, and what your muscle content is at, and if you have any weak limbs you need to work on... and it will give you your accurate basal metabolic rate. So if you don't have the level of muscle definition you need, that means you need to reduce body fat, and you can use the above data to know exactly how far off you are. To be able to display 6 pack abs... you need something like under 10% body fat, so if you aren't there yet... let's say the scan says you are at 12%... then you know the percentage of fat you need to shred, and once you achieve the look you are going for, you can get a scan to see what your body specifically is at... and it can help to maintain it, because you can monitor if you are creeping up higher in fat percentage, so you know you need to do a short cutting phase to get it back down. I would also recommend a chest strap heart rate monitor to wear for 24 hours, maybe several times to get a good average on what your Daily Calorie consumption is, so you have a good idea of the calories needed to maintain weight once you are happy with your physique.
@karthikkaty2483
@karthikkaty2483 5 лет назад
Will the body not burn body fat for fuel when dietary fat is low ? Instead of confused state of our body on burning ketones for energy or glucose from protein?
@jordanwillson7218
@jordanwillson7218 5 лет назад
After an extended fast, does one meal with only protein (e.g. 30g protein, chicken breast) kick you out of keto then? Ketones are being produced, so the fuel is there, but the only input from food is protein. Is the fat/protein balance off in that case?
@ShipCreek
@ShipCreek 5 лет назад
Brilliant Thomas. The longer Im in keto the more I understand the complexities of our bodies. So I wont worry about that insulin spike yesterday when I had a slice of christmas cake. The cake that gave me a splitting headache and I had to end up brushing my teeth just to get that awful sweet taste out of my mouth😝 Thankyou for the great research. Much appreciated👍
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial 5 лет назад
Ship Creek lmao!!! I hear ya!
@JRance
@JRance 5 лет назад
I’m searching for a “New to Keto” pre-workout video. I saw some old pre-workout videos you’ve done and some for those already 6+ weeks in. My workouts are suffering this first week in. Any insight? I got the “Perfect Keto Lemon Pre-Workout” drink, so far it has not been enough. Thanks for your help, love this channel!!!!
@beau5296
@beau5296 3 года назад
Take preworkout.
@rawsantos6403
@rawsantos6403 5 лет назад
I knew this by experence. I knew that High protein needs higher fat. Thanks for explaining
@g.hughey7222
@g.hughey7222 5 лет назад
Oh...that helped a lot! Many thanks and keep on keeping on!
@TheJakejake999
@TheJakejake999 5 лет назад
I just do 6oz with each meal or 8oz if I'm doing 2 meals. You'll get a lot of protein with nuts and and eggs. I think people get knocked out because they have a lot of protein but don't count other forms of protein. Maybe I'm wrong
@junellebalanon2990
@junellebalanon2990 4 года назад
I was wondering why my hunger shakes were coming back on keto. I was eating too much protein. It doesnt help that im stationary, i need to move and exercise too. Thanks for the video im getting more informed throughout this diet
@Gardener253
@Gardener253 5 лет назад
I’ve been on Keto + IF for over 2 months now. And I was wondering once I achieved my ideal weight then can I have rice once in a while ? Will it kick me out if ketones? I do OMAD 2-3 days a wk and others 20/4 x2 meals.
@Lux-Aeternum1
@Lux-Aeternum1 3 года назад
Wish I saw this video before I ramped up my protein intake. Thanks.
@cspanoulis
@cspanoulis 5 лет назад
Sure this isn't the right place, but just wanted to say congratulations Thomas on finally hitting 1M subscribers! Been watching and waiting for quite some time now to see it happen. Happy for you. Congratulations! And thank you for all the great content.
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial 5 лет назад
Thank you so much!
@gilarbell
@gilarbell 3 года назад
would love to see a video about endurance athletes on keto diet!! how to train how to fuel, how to fuel on raceday (currently training for ironman)
@ravenswoods177
@ravenswoods177 5 лет назад
Thomas, I have a great question for you. I have currently upped my protein to about 1.2g/lb lean mass and kept carbs the same. I have also lowered my fat to about 40g per day. I am still making ketones and not hypoglycemic or hangry. Is this due to an increase in gluconeogenisis or is my body using fat stores along with amino acids??? What are your thoughts?? Thank you
@AdamScottfit
@AdamScottfit 5 лет назад
Would be great to see videos of how you structure your diet daily. Daily in the life style one!
@pallekjrlaursen8388
@pallekjrlaursen8388 5 лет назад
In this context, is there any difference between dietary fat and fat stored on the body? I mean, if I am already fat, do I then also need make sure I eat enough fat? Thanks for great content, Thomas.
@clevitationcr1982
@clevitationcr1982 5 лет назад
Is there any limit on the daily amount of saturated fat that we can consume in a day through fatty chicken, coconut oil, ghee etc. as long as we make sure that its in our daily calorie limits?
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial 5 лет назад
Bharat MV tough one to answer, but generally not really
@clevitationcr1982
@clevitationcr1982 5 лет назад
@@ThomasDeLauerOfficial So in what cases could it be a problem?
@charisenterprise333
@charisenterprise333 5 лет назад
Loved the detailed video thank you
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial 5 лет назад
Chamanlal Sharma you bet
@andrewboardman2654
@andrewboardman2654 5 лет назад
"Focus on your family instead" like I have a family instead of fat loss goals lmao!
@williamryan7212
@williamryan7212 5 лет назад
You and Dr. Berg have honestly changed my life! Thanks for the videos!
@salazar3451
@salazar3451 3 года назад
Thank you so much it cleared some doubts I had
@hinakhodiyara5575
@hinakhodiyara5575 5 лет назад
Thanks
@lilis6042
@lilis6042 5 лет назад
Hi Thomas. Is it true that vegetable protein is not good for ketogenic, like soybeans? I heard that only animal protein is the best in ketogenic, not vegetable protein. If it's not entirely true, can I still consume foods made from soybeans (such as tofu, tempeh, etc.)?
@pircello
@pircello 5 лет назад
Thank you for all your great videos! Just love them and learned an awful lot of them! Can you talk about glycine at some point please? Is it keto safe to use it as a sweetener? Thanks a lot in advance!
@micahgourley7984
@micahgourley7984 5 лет назад
That last tidbit on not raising cortisol unnecessarily through worry alone was for me hehe. Appreciate your vids a ton 👍👍👍:-)
@rodzuss
@rodzuss 5 лет назад
You're videos are so helpfull. You explain things very clearly, you're a great teacher, thank you!
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial 5 лет назад
Thank you for watching!
@sustainableketo3836
@sustainableketo3836 5 лет назад
I do understand that you want to maintain a higher fat to protein ratio, but wouldn't you also turn your own body fat into ketones as dietary fat drops?
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial 5 лет назад
KetoMojoGogo in theory if you’re fat adapted enough. But it all depends on the action of hormone sensitive lipase at that time
@alesdrobek2512
@alesdrobek2512 5 лет назад
One million subs, holy shit. Special video/stream when? Oh and grats!
@garetitz
@garetitz 5 лет назад
So, if you're in full-on ketosis and you manage to knock yourself out by going overboard at a party (beer, chips, pizza, etc)... won't your body jump back into keto once you've depleted the glucose from the party? and can that happen within 24 hrs if you go straight into a water fast (assuming your party consumption was less than a normal days worth of calories)?
@Ironclad6661
@Ironclad6661 5 лет назад
If you're young probably. I am 50 that would knock me out for 2-3 days.
@jarednordstrom6041
@jarednordstrom6041 5 лет назад
Thanks again Thomas for all that you do! You should do a video on the keto lifestyle with food prep for the family and living the fat based lifestyle for the whole family!
@Xbitrate
@Xbitrate 5 лет назад
Thanks, Thomas! Just one doubt, when you say to keep a 2-1 fat to protein ratio do you mean percentage or grams? Also, can maltodextrin in tablets or powder citrulline malate supplement interfere with my keto? I'll highly appreciate your answer. 😊
@madosa.customs
@madosa.customs 5 лет назад
same question here!
@AndreasNilsson96
@AndreasNilsson96 5 лет назад
GRAMS: 2 grams of fat for every 1 gram of protein ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sBw2rdwBfZE.html
@trollharder3736
@trollharder3736 2 года назад
@@AndreasNilsson96 really? That's a lot of fat
@AirshipFury
@AirshipFury 5 лет назад
Every time I watch one of your vids, I realize how dumb I am for having to rewind a lot. Hahaha! Great info!
@KevinSmith-4Liberty
@KevinSmith-4Liberty 4 года назад
52 year old male..don’t regularly exercise...5’-11” small frame...203 lbs with a fasting glucose of 128. I started keto diet and I’m 4 months in...I weigh 175 lbs now...stone cold keto!! No carbs or sugar....my fasting glucose is now 124. Why? I started this Keto lifestyle to lower my blood sugar and it is not working. I do feel better and I look great! But I’m worried. My A1C did not change it is still 6.9.
@afdoumas
@afdoumas 5 лет назад
Thomas, can u get a CIMT test done and share it with us. To shut down the plant based/vegan doctors that say keto or high fat diets are bad. I'm curious to know ur results since you've been doing this for years.
@el_maoo
@el_maoo 5 лет назад
thanks for clearing that up. it's hard to find information on this topic
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial 5 лет назад
el mao thank you for watching!!
@JuhQman
@JuhQman 5 лет назад
I really don't understand why it wasn't mentioned that gluconeogenesis is possible from lipids as well. That's how people on keto tend to get most of their necessary glucose.
@ketofitforlife2917
@ketofitforlife2917 5 лет назад
Cleared up 100%. As always, ABSOLUTELY outstanding video. Thank you Thomas!
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial
@ThomasDeLauerOfficial 5 лет назад
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching!!
@alessandromatera2812
@alessandromatera2812 5 лет назад
What about insulin spike of leucine in foods (eggs probably the best source)? And also isn't leucine ketogenic?
@silveraje
@silveraje 5 лет назад
The science you explain is really complicated but fantastic. But I have a serious question The constipation situation is not going away. More fat didn't work pre and probiotics don't work and more fiber definitely didn't work. Have tests done, nothing wrong. Been on laxatives and that is the only relief. I don't take it every day once in a while. But still to rely on that is not good. What do you suggest?
@Slimeizlife
@Slimeizlife 5 лет назад
Thank you so much for this video Thomas! This has cleared up a lot of questions I had about GNG. One more point of curiosity is how this works with a "carnivore" diet for keto. A more extreme group I came across went starting keto. They almost screamed at me when I mentioned have my fats as you recommend, they do lots of lean protein only. But some of them shared blood test evidence of still being in a keto producing state, saying that body fat is their source why use dietary fats. Food for thought. Thanks again.
@silentwolf6532
@silentwolf6532 5 лет назад
I thought on your website you said you “can intentionally consume amino acids that form ketones rather than glucose, such as leucine and lysine”? It’s no big thing, my only concern is that I take a multivitamin and mineral formula that DOES include lysine, 100mg to be exact. Would that be enough to prevent or kick me out of ketosis?
@markclay1813
@markclay1813 5 лет назад
I do OMAD. I eat once a day, with minimal drink. At night I make sure to drink .5 gallons of water at work. My question is... can a sudden influx of water trigger a second insulin reaction?
@lolitamaeweathers5015
@lolitamaeweathers5015 5 лет назад
Why is it important to reduce your fat after you have been on a keto diet for a while and how do you know when to lower your fat intake?
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