Ketosis v. Plant-Based - Diet Wars with Cardiologist Joel Kahn, MD 

Ed those are minorities and they have very short lives by the way

the farm working lifestyle might also be an important factor.

I've eaten meat for 64yrs. I take no medicines, don't get sick, don't go to the doctor, work 8hrs on the farm, feel great and am going to switch to WFPB diet because the Science is good. It better bloody work!

Gary Moore sorry to say but you will not live long , the science says the opposite so I don’t know where you get your science. I personally don’t give a shit about science because it has been very wrong on so many things. I follow my human instincts. When I see a cow, I don’t want to kill her , my mouth does not salivate , I want to go and pet her. When I see a juicy mango, I salivate and I want to eat it. It’s that simple , period .

Gary Moore if you're doing so well why change?

oh bother.. thought Pooh

I know a few keto vegans

Almost all health problems are caused by polluted/acidic lymph, and can be rrversed by taking a solid food vacation on fruit/veggie juices, mostly veggies if you have diabetes. Search John Rose/ Dr. Morse

@@RunAndDraw lol

You have the same problem most people do. You are blown about by the easiest breeze. You need to stick with one plan for a while. Feel the benefits.... then decide to switch, upgrade to a better diet. Celery juice isn’t magic, and keto is just the latest fad. Keto used to be called the anabolic diet

How are you both doing today?

You guys were so lucky to have found out about these problems....I hope you both are doing well today!

I pray you both live long & healthy lives! ❤❤

I wish you both the best!

My mom is 95 and after a breast cancer diagnosis and subsequent mastectomy, she is vastly on a whole food plant based diet and her cancer has regressed. Yes, she takes her medication, but no radiation.

This man constantly insults anyone who eats anything. Even about their "broken Emgish". He's a really nasty piece of work. Look up Dr. Aseem Malhotra. Cardiologist.

Similar experience here. Two years into Keto, I have gallbladder and inflammation issues. I do much better on low fat, plant based. Now working on healing myself.

Sorry y'all went through that :( Best of luck with the healing process

L F unfortunately healing a Organ takes time, wish you a speedy recovery!

@@johnnyblaze2257 you did keto AND switched to high fat? just do it correctly and you will not have problems.

D J i did do it correctly, Keto is high fat!

I'm sorry to disappoint you but humans have not figure out black holes yet, it's only a mathematical theory so far, actually theory as valid as plasmoid theory in the electric universe theory so I'm not surprised the 'proper food intake' is also revolving around theories 😄 It is only until anyone actually try for himself and see for real how the theory plays out in the real life.

@@dotology I agree that not everything about black holes is known, but at least, you don't have polar opposite points of view like in nutrition. For every unprocessed food you can find videos saying that food is great and others saying its bad. And that's my point, it's so confusing. You have doctors saying any type of meat will give you cancer. You have others saying carbs are bad for you and will give you diabetes. Some say plants have anti nutrients. But you're right, you need to figure it out yourself.

@@mehdibc5852 but doesn't the plasmoid theory bring in the content to polarise the view on black holes? Anyways the food topic is exhausting 😂 I think we should focus on finding and determining our own metabolic mechanisms and adjust our nutrition accordingly. There are almost 8bln of us and everyone has his own unique predisposition. Not to mention (and I think it is still an overlooked factor) that different life styles, geographic areas and also different times of our lives do require different approaches. I've spent years and years researching my body problems and tried different kind of nutrition. For me keto and fasting seams to be the best when it comes to health, energy and look factor. My best friend however is rolling on a plant based diet and she also feels wonderful and looks good. And who knows...maybe in a couple of years we will have to switch hehe

we definitely have figured out the optimal diet. it is plant based, high fiber, low saturated fat. unfortunately there are many food industries that do not want this to be the truth so you see a lot of non sense online

@@KrazyKrzysztof Krejzi Kris, you probably figured out the optimal diet for yourself. And that's great. It works differently for me. That's great too. The only optimal thing there is for everybody is to eat and drink the most natural and first and foremost not to overeat.

Right! I'm in a higher state of ketosis being low fat, plant based than I ever was on high fat keto!

L F Low fat ketosis? What' are your macro intake and ketone levels?

@@adamamoroso7943 low fat plant based ketosis is fasting basically.

cucu banana ok, interesting. Have you ever measured your macros and/or your ketone levels tho? I've never heard of a low fat keto diet. I assume w/o the fat, in order to stay in ketosis there would have to be a pretty major calorie deficit.

i only eat starches 0% fat,, i avoid fruits as much i can,, except berries for oatmeal (ALL FATS are insanely toxic,, even organic nuts and fatty seeds (tho i keep alge flax chia leafy greens for omega3,, tho still unsure about chia flax,, rather sprout them) i dont eat enough veggies tho,, that i 100% know but im eating the cheapest second healthiest diet in the world,, after raw i guess and live diet ,, only long chain sugars i eat mostly i guess?,, ALL fats NO EXCEPTions and now i realize fruits sadly gives me acne (some fruits are healtHIER then others BY FAR,, i just learned and eliminated mangos apples pears,, now somehow i think dates too are an issue,, tho if i would eat only raw fruits wouldnt be as problematic,, fats are still a huge problem even while raw tho,, starch are insanely less toxic then fruits by my 3 years of knowledge testing and experience,, shouldnt even speak about fats AT ALL they so fkin insanely toxic its not even an argument to me nemore,, but i never ate sugar like all other people,, i cant stand exagerated amounth so maybe i didnt screw up my pancreas as bad as most people or something,, also 1 handfull of nuts fills you up,, 1 handfull of fruits doesnt,, an other reason fats are AT LEAST 3Times worse then sugars,, im thinking even some 0% fat candies like powder candies are less horible then organic fats,, i mean not in terms of nutrients obviously but in terms of fat vs sugar damages,, actually i know those candies might be less horible,, dont know they taste like shit after a couple ones so i never ate enough to compare),, probably shouldnt even speak about something so stupid as candies,, its just i found the example pretty good not talking about nutrients vs absolutly nothing good in candies lol,, but the sugar vs fat if you could remove the fat from organic fatty seeds and nuts,, those would probably be insanely healthy,, but then,,, nobody would ever even talk about those,, cause no addiction no denial or CRAVING debate,, its just how you eat more greens when you learn fat is that!! toxic,, you cant moderate obviously,, cause everytime you try you always fall off the wagon without even wanting,, your taste buds just asks for more and more,, but if you can love oatmeal with nothing on it,, you can play moderation all you want,, no consequences will come (TALKING ABOUT ORGANIC OFC,, NOT FKIN ASSHOLE Quaker GMO BULL SHIT) i need to encourage organic corn maybe also,, but oatmeal organic vs gmo,, is like 60cent/1$ more,, its insanely low for such a big difference in pesticides,, fkin love how starchs are cheap as fuck,, i dont want more cash I WANT ANIMAL AGRICULTURE TO LOSE THEIR FUNDING AND BE GIVEN TO VEGGIES,, NOT FRUITS,, VEGGIES,,, NO ONE NEEDS FRUITS AND Fatty products,, but veggies,,, guessing more raw receipies will always be worshipped,, like tomato and zuccini pasta spagetti,, or courgette,, wait can you eat those without being cooked?,, they are veggies obviously but like potatoes they so hard inside if you dont cook them i dont even know how you would eat them? hmm so interesting how some foods are so healthy and/or are obviously veggies,, but you cant or maybe cant? eat them raw,, most can be replanted to eat in leafy form tho germinated/sprouted ,, but potato leaves are toxic also rices could be eaten raw when you think about it,,, or are they grains? too many word play it seems seeds,, like kinoa vs brown rice vs barley,, ,,, guess if you cant replant it after buying them,, its not a real food,, but if it easily wants to grow back again,,, lol like potatoes and none fatty seeds,, well even fatty seeds if you CAn? plant them,, the leafy form doenst have all the issues right?,, i mean most of the toxic and massive excess fats are in the ground? right? wonder whats the omega 3 vs 6 ratio after replanting something with A high omega 6 ratio is,, i mean in leafy form,, before they become a fatty seed again,,

Did you fast? Did you get fat adapted? It takes about 1 to 2 weeks to adapt. Any beginner would know this. I highly doubt you even tried keto. My energy tripled on it like I was on an upper.

@@EpochUnlocked Guarantee you, it wasn't keto, the high iron from meat/liver should reverse the anemia not increase it. Not to mention anyone i've heard who's been on keto, always get an increase in energy. Seems like she was starving and not in ketosis

There’s a lot of incorrect information about keto. Most people eat too much “added” fat and not enough low starch vegetables. Dr. Berg recommends 7-10 CUPS of vegetables daily. Eat your fat with your protein-preferably as it comes naturally.

you did it wrong.

Unfortunately 6 weeks isn't long enough for most people to feel the biggest benefits if you ate a normal diet before. Also every time you cheat and eat carbs 1 time it sets you back to 3 days before you can even begin ketosis again, so you are back at square 1 every time you cheat at all. If you don't have very solid willpower, then true keto is very tough to enjoy the benefits of, which mean it will never work for most. Good luck.

I love this so much ❤❤

I have a similar situation, where I was strictly vegetarian for a long time, and vegan for awhile, but could not sustain health over the long haul. I "hit the wall" at about year 8. My issue was that I developed an inability to metabolize B-12 no matter what, even with supplementation- because I had stopped producing a vital enzyme. I am still mostly a plant eater, but eat some sort of flesh food approximately once per week. Since doing that, I have been feeling much better.

@Nospam Spamisham Sorry but looking at the animal Kingdom humans have in common with carnivorous or omnivorous animals as much as apes have in common with those animals. Our brain developed eating lots of cooked complex carbohidrates and then we started hunting, otherwise bears or lions would be the most intelligent animals on the planet instead of us. Luckly your body can survive on meat only but that's not sustainable nor healty for most people, so don't spread misinformation.

@@ClintSevilla THis has a whisp of truth behind it .... BUT really just but grasping at straws to support the cult of vegan. Yes plant based is best, however there are many good quality studies confirming the many many variations in how a human body works....or does not.....

Never thought of implementing oysters. What a good idea!

The reason I'm WFPB vegan and don't include fish is not for ethical reasons - it's to avoid contaminants. 1tbsp ground flax seeds and low omega-6 should be good for omega-3. Some studies also show benefits to add preformed EPA&DHA gathered from the source that fish are getting it from: algae. In pill form of course. It makes sense to me because the biochemistry arguments make sense to me - I don't believe naturalism is the answer to maximizing health life years. Our body is optimized for reproduction and nurturing off-spring only to the point of avoiding extinction. So I count all healthy years above 50 as bonus years. I'm looking for pitfalls of the WFPB and am currently investigating oxalates.

Details folks details......

Agreed. To make things simpler for myself I tend to think of it as "avoid refined everything"

there are big differences tho, biggest one is that majority of the calories on a whole food plant-based diet comes from whole grains, legumes, fruit, starchy vegetables. keto is missing all of this

@@Magani79 Thanks for pointing out the obvious. I was merely drawing attention to common ground, both to emphasise the clearly worst foods that neither diet advocates, and to put the keto vs vegan diets in context with the standard diet, which almost any diet is an improvement from. If you wish to suggest keto is "missing" things in a partisan manner. I'm sure a keto advocate would point out things "missing" from a vegan diet. Everyone is perfectly capable of being tribal and closed minded without our assistance I'm sure. I am neither vegan, or keto, but whatever they all agree on, I'm sure we call all agree, is probably true.

@@anachronisticon you can get better than just the common ground tho...

@@Magani79 you upset him, how dare you...

Yep kidney stones is due to keto diet, it hammers your kidneybygettingrid of salt

The biggest thing that people do wrong on vegan diets is undereating and not getting in healthy fats and grains. I tried a vegan diet for a few months in college and learned a lot, so when I tried again it was much more sustainable. Legumes, minimally processed grains, and tubers are the central part of my diet, with plenty of fruit and veggies, and I have 2 tablespoons of chia seeds on my oatmeal every morning. I also take a daily B12 and vitamin D supplement, which everyone should do. That works amazingly well for me, and I feel more energetic and healthy than ever. Also, my blood panels are better at 27 than they were in my teens. I would recommend adding more calories in the form of grains and legumes, and trying again. It is very easy to undereat on salads and fruit alone.

@@SelectHawk that's a really good approach, thank you for sharing :) Seems like most people that felt bad with vegan diet had at least one, if not more, of their bases not covered (vitamins, minerals, protein etc) :)

Moderation kills

You are only your own expert if you educate yourself. Everyone is unique and there is no one solution for everyone. I agree you need to listen to your own body. But first you need to do the legwork.

I'm looking to help cancer patients and would love to hear what has helped your patients most during treatment. In 2014, my mother was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer and given 4-months to live. So I decided to learn all I can to help her through chemo and radiation. I'm happy to say is still with us in 2022.

Yep !!!! Processed foods and simple sugars is what’s really making us sick sooo true

Great advice Anthony Perez. I do the same and my health is now optimal.

And what is healthy fats? Nobody really knows.

Rocky Balboa your body really knows. Pay attention to how you feel after eating some types of food. Not just how it taste, but how it makes you feel even long after eating it. How does your skin look, how is your weight, your focus, etc.

@@rockybalboa768 Plant based and not processed

So I would suggest that what is far more important than diet is exercise. If you are training for and riding 200 mile rides then that is what drives your health more than veganism. its not the other way around.

@@tristanmules7995 You'd be wrong then because diet is the fuel that you put in your 'machine'. Put diesel in your high performance car and you won't move. But fill'er up with premium and away you go.

First sentence makes little sense. If you want to brag, just do it.

@@ddhqj2023 Correct. tristan Mules is wrong. It's like the people were saying years ago, that you can eat anything as long as you exercise.

Phenominal! I'm hoping to be the same way. I have discarded relationships with people who have unhealthy health habits.

@ERIN i am so sorry for your loss....

If you are eating a vegetarian diet, I'm sure he would be very proud of you.

Wow that's wonderful!! Congratulations!! I have yet to convince family members to go vegan but a few of my friends did ! 😊💚💗

Haha, sad.

Dr. Ken d.Berry

I still love bacon...how could one hate it? But I am a vegan now. Sigh.

You think you did him a favor??? 😆

Sounds like an interesting article. It's difficult to not have your identity become linked to a choice when it runs counter to prevailing norms. When I stopped eating meat years ago, I was determined not to let it define me, contrary to the tired joke, "How do you know someone's vegan? They'll tell you within a minute of meeting them. Hurr durr." The reality is that food is a big part of human social life. The easiest way, I ultimately found, to avoid meat being shoved my way or wasted on behalf by family and friends was to say, "No thanks. I'm vegetarian." Otherwise, they think you are turning your nose up at something they made, not hungry, or some other misunderstanding. It sets you apart, whether you intend to make it an integral part of your identity or not.

@@man0utoftime ​ @man out of time Few thoughts around this. You could just as easily say "No thanks" and leave it at that. No need to mention the vegetarian part at all, which I believe would help separate the identity. You shouldn't worry about how others interpret that response because you cannot control how they respond, only they can so it isn't your task or responsibility to worry about. You can simply respond with kindness and good intention, the perception of it is outside your control with anything said to others.

@@man0utoftime That explains alot of my experience. I was a macrobiotic vegan years ago and had problems explaining to family that I wasn't starving to death and my food was healthy.

How is the plant based diet working out? I'm currently on keto and haven't tried any diets before this. I already feel better on keto but wouldn't mind trying other things.

I don't think I could do vegan permanently. Too restrictive. Same for carnivore. But I think I could cycle seasonally. Probably like humans evolved to do.

@@jellybeanvinkler4878 try just plant based with meat occasionally.

@@BearsEatBeetz I have been vegetarian. Gained 50lbs and developed a 2cm kidney stone. 😞 Took the grains out, and try to stay with low oxalate vegetables n fruit. Only grass fed meats. And dairy whe possible. Lost that 50 then.

​@@jellybeanvinkler4878I think the reason you lost weight was because the removal of processed and unhealthy food, rather than carnivore being magical

Your A1c went down because you avoid carbs, you are still insulin resistant and have done nothing to reverse the cause of your diabetes. You are on target for cardio vascular disaster. Watch the video posted by Cathy Darnell above. Not only is Cyrus a Phd in Nutritional Biochemistry but also a Type 1 who researched insulin resistance. Best of luck to you :-) .

How Ironic...^

If you were eating so much meat then you where not doing keto. You aré suppose to moderately low protein, high fat, with leafy greens.

sabine c reversed type2 diabetes with a high carb low fat whole food plant based diet!

Bruceann Yellowega that low carb is scary and not safe. If you stop it your benefits reverse and that's not good.

If it's type 2 diabetes you might find dr jason fungs videos interesting too.

Congratulations on a great choice. Try not to listen to everything because it may get confusing and stressful. As long as you're doing whole foods and eating from all plants, you're doing it right. Legumes are the best food to fight diabetes.

read mcgregors book "how not to die"....that will fully convince and commit you....job done!

I like McGregor he really knows his stuff and I am following his suggestions

I came off my metforin after 6 months plant based. Don’t go for the fake burgers and stuff they are processed food. Make your own so you’ll know what you are eating.

I love experts but they all have their own niche! That said, the overwhelming scientific evidence points to a plant based diet as the best way forward. It's a very confusing area of study so I'm a fan of the Blue Zones as it's real. In these areas people live very long lives. Their diets are predominantly but not exclusively plant based. (Minimal animal products - 0 to 5%). They use small amounts of plant based oils for cooking and a little salt. Beans are eaten in every BZ area as are whole grains. The emphasis is on fibre rich fruits and vegetables with zero processed food. They also have a low stress, simple lifestyle and spend lots of time out of doors. Makes sense to me.

It's not confusing, you just have to read the scientific literature. Don't read journalism, or blogs, or posts about nutrition - just the scientific literature. That, along with some critical thinking, will make everything crystal clear. For example: When a population study writes "Vegans have low levels of omega-3" in the title, you think "uh-oh, vegans are malnourished". Then you read the actually study, and the part that says omega-3 levels were at 3,7%, before you begin to ask questions: What are the optimal levels? Who has optimal levels? How do omnivores compare to vegans? Then you read a similar study about omnivores and find that omnivores have levels at 3,5%. And you realize the actual title of the first study should have been "Vegans have slightly higher levels of omega-3 than omnivores". Confusion gone.

Sharon Rose. Me too. ....I am so confused as to what diet...blood type...keto....Dr. Gundry....i just did Geno Palate which was a suprise to me....no meat.....Fish ok...salmon, trout, ....mostly plant based ..nuts.. So..im trying to treat my acid reflux and allergies and joint pain..so going to do this and see if i feel better...Thanks for your input...

@@Lili-tt2ks before I started on the WFPB I had terrible reflux and muscle pains. 18 days ago I started on the Furhman diet. In two days my body felt different. I’ve lost weight which I have so struggled to do before. My skin felt dry after a week but now it feels soft so something is happening.

Anne. Ehat does wfpb stand for?

🤣

Have you seen his debate on Joe Rogan, I feel like there are way smarter people 😂

@@chrisevilstewie I’m pretty sure you’re being sarcastic, but maybe not. Here’s a great example of why not to believe everything you see on Joe Rogan: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cjL8wv2CXM4.html It’s a debunk of what Dr Saladino, who comes across as very intelligent but his claims don’t hold up to science. My favorite episode of Joe Rogan was when James Wilkes, the producer of Game Changers, went on against Chris Kresser and called him out and disproved the lies and misinformation he had been spreading about Game Changers. Have you seen that one? If not, check that one out. It’s long, but entertaining and informative! 🙂

@@ianmarshall9958 😂 I was watching that video about a month ago and yeah while I don't agree with the carnivore guy on some things I still believe it's good to balance out your meals with intermittent fasting and having a good salad with a meat dish for dinner and in the afternoons it's eggs with bacon, some cooked vegetables and oats to get a pretty good nutritional value with good energy levels overall. Oh and Joe Rogan has everyone on the spectrum it's not some hippie show all the time😂 he does have the biggest views than others of his kind.

@@ianmarshall9958 don't believe John Oliver 😂

Its high saturated fats. Block your arteries.

@@rtazz17 Sat fats don't block arteries. It's the combo of sugar and carbohydrates with sat fats that it becomes an issue www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/28442474/

@@rtazz17 Watch Dr Rhonda Patrick, a biochemist, and not keto or vegan. She explains what actually causes arteries to block.

CMDR Exoticspeedefy you keto supporters always post this exact same meta analysis that has already been debunked extensively. If keto is so healthy for everyone, tell the dairy industry to fund a new study showing this is fact. They won’t because they know the results would make them look bad. You are following a bunch of quacks with zero credentials that copy and paste the same tired old meta analyses. Is this really where you really want to get your health advice that will determine when you live or die??? I know I wouldn’t.

It's all relative though, isn't it?

Please, no close-ups of Roll. Yikes. Not an attractive guy. LOL.

1942 SmithCorona Has not aged well at all.....hmmmmm

Study: "The animal low-carbohydrate score was associated with a higher all-cause mortality (pooled HR comparing extreme deciles=1.23, 95% CI=1.11-1.37, p-trend=0.05), cardiovascular mortality (corresponding HR=1.14, 95% CI=1.01-1.29, p-trend=0.029), and cancer mortality (corresponding HR=1.28, 95% CI 1.02-1.60, p for trend = 0.09). In contrast, a higher vegetable low-carbohydrate score was associated with lower all-cause (HR=0.80, 95% CI=0.75-0.85, p-trend

Rich is an attractive guy, yes close up please

Funny you should say that because every time I see him I think exactly the opposite

Meat has been eaten since time began, sugar, only since the slave trade, oils, fifty years. Which is toxic?

@@pepper5155 beside you right now? None of those things are relevant to my thanks to Rich and Joel. However you are sounding like the negative, and out of contexts critics from the documentary “Food Choice.” It’s free on this platform with ads, you should go check it out and watch it. ;)

Care to share what kind of supplements you also took?

wow that's wild discipline

Would you mind sharing how you do vegan keto? I’m contemplating doing it

@@jacquenettemoody5144 here are two channels on RU-vid: ru-vid.com/show-UCrpsh8DTCnr-_8CCcCCuK9Q ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xp0b3meIRFM.html

@@jacquenettemoody5144 keto removes carbs. Plant-based such as veganism still incorporates healthy fats such as grains. If you're on a loose weight program Keto is best to loose weight faster. Plant-based diet is great but you have to watch out for your carbs intake if loosing weight is an issue for you. Overall both are plant-based but with a different purpose. You could do both at the same time. I myself am a no-meat eater with the exception of fish (omega 3) cos I'm an islander. The rest of my diet is plant/grains/fruit (whole foods) based. So I get to enjoy from both worlds. The day I will forsake my fish (white meat, Omega 3) then I can call myself plant based only.

eat more plants, dont eat meat with every meal.

@@dagan5698 quite the opposite. I'm meat only

I don’t agree with the eat nuts seeds a veg argument because they don’t want to be eaten (seeds whole is fine). The plants develop defence chemicals to slowly kill the thing that eats them. For example, antinutrients like phytates, oxylates and lectins. They only want you to eat the fruit in order to spread the seeds. But they don’t want you to chew the seeds or nuts unless, like our ancestors, we process them and let them germinate and sprout first to drop their defences. Doesn’t make sense to me. Animals vs plants arms race.

Same for me. Keto w intermittent fasting saved my life. It's what works for me.

That's a whole lot of theories. The first healthiest humans are PLANTS. They did not have weapons they ate plant food.

I completely agree with this

In my experience minimum hot oil....60%fiber 40%starch 20% fish chicken organic beef no milk fermented foods cheese yogurt Fruit ... .lp

Good observation, and well done!

hear they have a american cheese flavored tobbaco now...

‘’Too” not “to”!

God bLess you for your success.

Carole Devlin, and “used to,” not “use to,”

Carnivore rocks!!! I dont eat plants and I lost 50 pounds in 1 year and my lab tests are wonderful.

Exactly ! The "we have science on our side" can be claimed by both sides, so that just doesn't fly any more. The only determining factor as to which side is your allegiance appears to be, on which side and into which lifestyle have you invested your time, your energy, your money, your health, and your reputation.

@Nospam Spamisham True, the meat studies never use grass fed ruminant meats and they always lump red meat with processed meat to skew data. Sugar ages the body.

@@xDDufiosy Could you link a source for that? The same Could be said for the opposite

@Nospam Spamisham lol, care to back up those claims with some actual sources? Here, I'll post a couple sources showing that studies are done on human beings, and that evidence for a plant-based diet isn't the facade that you claim it to be. www.healthline.com/nutrition/vegan-diet-studies#section1 www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26508743 www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23695207 www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16164885 All these rabbits tho...

Where is the debate when keto maniacs talk about life shortening carcinogenic keto diet?

😂 Same.

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@Manuel Schmidt This isn't rocket science. Plants are good for you. You're a plant eater. Not a lion.

@@Itsunclegabby Tried plant based diet and it ruined me

It's crazy how much drinking alcohol and eating garbage is ingrained in our society to the point that it's much harder to make friends if you don't.

I cured my arthritic arm with that a few years ago. It's powerful stuff !

how can you sleep during an alternate fasting it cause a lot of cortisol to release in blood?

Losing fat weight ? 🤔

I'm visualizing very slender/skinny eldsters, or am I supplying imagery that is far from the truth? Curious!

@@eugeniebreida1583 As a generalization, Yes your visual is correct. But. the vibrancy of their mind, or I would say "spirit" for all things called Life, is remarkable. If Im taking a 104 year old to the doctor, in many cases the doctor gets a lecture if the treatment plan varies from the last 3 doctors of the last 50 years. Think endless desire to live and stay on track. To paraphrase Abraham Lincoln: " 8 days to cut down the tree? - Ok I will take 7 days to sharpen the axe and 1 to do the cutting." Its smart living...albeit a pragmatic one.

so if you do what you say people will not due young?

If you take a blood glucose meter and keep your blood sugar levels at 85 constantly you will find out we need very little food for survival

@@michaelpfuntner8109 Yes, I suppose Your idea of 85 BG is likely a good data point. It follows what I see in those who defy time. But there is some aspect that points to one's desire to live and play with their options to keep going. There was an extensive study started in 1980 for a large census of seniors in Leisure World, located in Orange County CA. It clearly reveals the biggest factor is having "reasons to live" in the context of friends and activities and exercise 20 minutes per day etc. Diet and nutrition or even mild alcohol consumption, just did not count under the longevity data collected for 25 years. But this begs the question of how one's Brain responds with nutritional aspects supporting one's lifestyle and avoiding stress. Avoiding Low grade - long term stress is the key to living longer based on my observations. Centenarians are purpose driven and this includes their eating habits.

You look terrible, should switch to keto and eat meat like a real woman

Where are the studies?

What is agoge diet? Just shut up

Studies showing keto as dangerous are vague. If the study involves people eating less than 40g of carbs, they consider it keto. Eating bad food but technically very low carb and calling it keto is dishonest. Imagine trying to sustain a vegan diet on processed junk that is technically vegan. Huge salads/veggie portions with healthy fat+small portions of protein with more fat=healthy keto. Veganism can work great too if you pay attention to all nutrient needs

@@EthanE3 Well the problem is that Keto is extremely tough to follow and requires a ton of prep time that most people don't have. So aim for the healthiest version of a convenient diet you can find. No processed junk, lot of vegetables. Some protein, some healthy fat and that's it.

Keto is a natural state. How can a natural state of fat burning be risky?

That ratio Tri/HDL is my most trusted measure and I have found that Keto/Paleo does me right! Better gastro and smarter quicker brain!

Does a plant based diet include bread and pasta?

Exactly! There are two types of people! Some have way lower protein requirements than others. People need to do the diet that works best for them.

@FreeRangeSoyFarmer Goyem I ate oatmeal with walnuts for breakfast, beans. TVP in chille I tried many of Dr. Gregor's recipes from his book and Dr Klapper's recipes from his website. We are organic. Almond milk absolutely no dairy. My husband and I loved eating this way. We visited vegan restaurants. Sad by the results.

@@whyistheskyblue5515 keto is only 20% protien. I add more green carbs asparagus, brocolli, Brussels sprouts, cauliflower than most keto diets. I add EVOO, and ghee to all green carbs.

Keto is superior no doubt