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Kevin Durant Says Guys like Stephen A. Smith Changed the Game for the Worse | THE ODD COUPLE 

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THE ODD COUPLE Chris Broussard and Rob Parker react to Kevin Durant who in response to Stephen A. Smith saying the 'Michael Jorden ruined the game of basketball' called out prominent debate show hosts like Stephen A. Smith for being more responsible for ruining the game.
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@rockylucas9096
@rockylucas9096 2 года назад
sports media nowadays is like a film critic that stops the movie every two minutes and starts debating, analyzing, and making declarative statements about what they just saw without having seen the whole picture or even an entire scene
@flyguy7825
@flyguy7825 2 года назад
100% agree
@jbreezy519
@jbreezy519 2 года назад
1000% correct
@wilberthokrianto6736
@wilberthokrianto6736 2 года назад
Agree!
@bobbybolan5516
@bobbybolan5516 2 года назад
Sadly real news has went this way too and it’s ramifications are much more severe
@vlada
@vlada 2 года назад
Great analogy. I'm going to reuse it !!
@jessepaiz6356
@jessepaiz6356 2 года назад
Part of the reason why guys like Magic, Bird, and Jordan are so revered is becuase their wasn't a group of reporters impersonating pro wrestlers tearing down their legacy for small grievances, many having nothing to do with basketball. Letigimately, if a modern basketball player passes up a shot with like 3 minutes left in a random regular season game, a bunch of talking heads will claim that they don't have that killer instinct, clutch gene, and are not elite.
@dylanallen7720
@dylanallen7720 2 года назад
I would have loved to see how some of the old stars would have reacted to being scrutinized 24/7 like stars of today.
@quiara25
@quiara25 2 года назад
Well said
@inhumanjoey310
@inhumanjoey310 2 года назад
lmao
@Lil_tro_Vert
@Lil_tro_Vert 2 года назад
Lol you must’ve forgot about magic being clowned for his finals performance or when the media was trashing jordan saying he’s a one on one player who could never win a chip
@2robjenkins
@2robjenkins 2 года назад
They weren’t scrutinized like todays players, which is why they are so adored. None of these analysts can actually analyze the game, they just say hot takes for clicks and views/money. It’s a joke.
@evenebrown7353
@evenebrown7353 2 года назад
Why when kd express his opinion he is sensitive but when anyone else says anything they have a point
@wilcee238
@wilcee238 2 года назад
Because “Karen” Durant is always crying and uses burner accounts. Moving on.
@PlanetBu
@PlanetBu 2 года назад
You’re right I find it hilarious that Every time Durant tweets people are calling him sensitive when in fact they are the ones butt hurt and sensitive about what he doing or what he saying. Social media is a cesspool
@fabledogify
@fabledogify 2 года назад
Because he legitimately is sensitive lol
@theiggod6921
@theiggod6921 2 года назад
Because it's always about something that DIRECTLY affects him negatively.
@andrebritten
@andrebritten 2 года назад
@@wilcee238 if you’re still talking about a burner account when he actually uses his main account to give his opinions, you’re the sensitive and childish one
@earlthepearl6414
@earlthepearl6414 2 года назад
I rarely agree with Durant but he is right this time.
@ibnfaqir9223
@ibnfaqir9223 2 года назад
That's true. But remember, they are getting multimillions to be able to deal with this. If you don't want this then go work at the post office.
@heroldmacajoux8160
@heroldmacajoux8160 2 года назад
True story AOL
@jeffsamuels2539
@jeffsamuels2539 2 года назад
@@ibnfaqir9223 facts they aren’t played to play basketball. They’d do that for free. It’s all the bs they get paid for fr fr.
@adriandantedanosos4146
@adriandantedanosos4146 Год назад
@@ibnfaqir9223 this one is really good
@BothTeamsPlayedHard
@BothTeamsPlayedHard 2 года назад
Obviously, Chris and Rob are PISSED that KD didn’t mention them…
@OgSweenyTBZ_YT
@OgSweenyTBZ_YT 2 года назад
Lol 😂
@sufianmazhar8198
@sufianmazhar8198 2 года назад
Rob needed to be mentioned as the biggest hater
@jeffsamuels2539
@jeffsamuels2539 2 года назад
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@jeffsamuels2539
@jeffsamuels2539 2 года назад
@@sufianmazhar8198 but it’s even better not mentioning him. Not validating him lol
@mktgguy23
@mktgguy23 2 месяца назад
Lol ​@@jeffsamuels2539
@jclemons121384
@jclemons121384 2 года назад
KD is right though. The media debate format has ruined the game and how a person views the top athletes. You really can't enjoy multiple stars without feeling like you have to take a side. They have also taking team concepts and turned them into one on one battles. QB vs. QB; Star vs. Star. It makes for great TV, but limits stars from having iconic brands. But if more athletes get their own media formats that could change.
@evenebrown7353
@evenebrown7353 2 года назад
You are so right. They pit the players against each other. Why you can't like multiple players. If you like kd you can't like lebron. I like both players
@ThomasFromTN
@ThomasFromTN 2 года назад
Typically, I don't care much for responses to comments that, in a word, simply pronounce, "Well said" (or, in the present day vernacular..."Facts." I mean - I really, REALLY hate that "Facts" meme...largely because it's almost universally being attributed to some comment that ostensibly was actually an opinion.] I don't find those sorts of responses offer much in the way of propelling the narrative, and can't help but feel - sometimes - their purposes are intended to foster "mob mentality" where cultivating fear of dissension being the actual purpose. In your case...I will make the exception. BECAUSE I ABSOLUTELY, WITHOUT QUALIFICATION, AGREE WITH EVERY WORD YOU SAID. If I may actually invoke another response trope I typically detest, but feel personally moved to express in this instance... ...I COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT BETTER MYSELF.
@flyguy7825
@flyguy7825 2 года назад
I couldn't have put it better myself. 100% agree. Sports media is really what the issue in modern-day sports. It's all about calling people out defaming your character putting up non-biased opinions
@chilltrav9273
@chilltrav9273 2 года назад
Agreed! One team can get blown out and they will still have a debate! Its okay to agree and just speak on the game! They have to debate, and compare every player! They talk about Bron and KD still and they aint even in the playoffs.smh Just starting drama!
@jamiesp3901
@jamiesp3901 2 года назад
True im a ravens fan, but I have no reason to not enjoy Mahomes. The medis put Lamar vs Mahomes for ratings, now the fanbases go at it on Twitter.
@keithknox5829
@keithknox5829 2 года назад
Jesse Paiz is absolutely right. If sports journalists all disapeared tomorrow, the games would still go on. All these kinds of talk shows are just people figuring out a way to make themselves relevant. And as far as sensitivity goes, it seems to me these so-called sports journalists get more into their feelings than the players.😢
@alexsheene3810
@alexsheene3810 2 года назад
Until the players salary drops 80% with no media.
@Darkmorningsun
@Darkmorningsun Год назад
@@alexsheene3810 shhhh don’t let them know. It’s not like the media is the reason athletes are rich. 🤡
@depannist
@depannist Год назад
@@alexsheene3810 KD is talking about TV sports analysts. Not (all) media. If SAS disappeared tomorrow, it would have very little effect on player revenue.
@th7079
@th7079 10 месяцев назад
@@alexsheene3810 yup, look at Mike Trout. No media covers him.
@th7079
@th7079 10 месяцев назад
look at boxing. They depend on the media. A fight won't sell if the media don't hype it.
@playthatagainbruh394
@playthatagainbruh394 2 года назад
People talk about KD but the media is infinitely more sensitive....he isn't talking about being discussed....he isn't even talking about being criticized....its about the outlandish clown takes that consist of shouting over each other to see who can say the most ridiculous take that will go viral.
@banditonehundred
@banditonehundred 2 года назад
Right on
@OgSweenyTBZ_YT
@OgSweenyTBZ_YT 2 года назад
That’s what they are missing he’s not talking about the criticism at all, now when you attack the media back they have a bigger issue than the players.
@evenebrown7353
@evenebrown7353 2 года назад
Correct, anytime kd says anything, he is sensitive, he blew a 3-1 lead, he had a burner acct. They never really listen to what point is trying to make. I am not a fan of everything kd says but sometimes he is right on the money
@evenebrown7353
@evenebrown7353 2 года назад
So right
@doleph1
@doleph1 2 года назад
That's not all KD said. KD said your not allowed to criticize the game of you didn't play or are not playing at the highest level. That's what the backlash is about.
@hayesc0
@hayesc0 2 года назад
Chris is right and I've been trying to tell people this. All great players have failures. People just overanalyze these games now.
@flyguy7825
@flyguy7825 2 года назад
Yeah but these failures as you call them bleeds into assassinating their characters and saying how they're not great players. Perfect example Chris Paul people are starting to question how good Chris Paul really is when his resume speaks for itself. I mean they literally had someone like Patrick Beverly, a guy who's really never done much of anything in the NBA literally try to assassinate his character along with his game and he had the platform to do it because that's what the sports media has done
@vlada
@vlada 2 года назад
@@flyguy7825 CP is a very good player. His character however is deeply flawed. But great point.
@alfredjackson7058
@alfredjackson7058 2 года назад
@@flyguy7825 facts and it’s sick if u think about it u can have a bad game and they’ll make it deeper then what it is and once u respond your called sensitive
@Knitty610
@Knitty610 2 года назад
right
@sharonbrent6919
@sharonbrent6919 2 года назад
@@alfredjackson7058 THEY CALL KD SENSITIVE ALL THE TIME WHEN HE SPEAK UP
@MatthewSmith-lr8bm
@MatthewSmith-lr8bm 2 года назад
The fact that ESPN gave Pat Bev a spot to show his bias toward Chris Paul is a clear indication that the media really care more about hot takes than objective commentary. This is why I really only listen to Chris/Rod because everything else keep recycling the same old topics. How many times can you really have the GOAT debate? Even when the topic is about something totally different it somehow circles back around to Jordan vs LeBron.
@joeshmoe8134
@joeshmoe8134 2 года назад
Rod is just as bad as Skip. He hates on Lebron just as much as Skip.
@evenebrown7353
@evenebrown7353 2 года назад
Yes, and for 2 weeks talking about kd should be sad he left warriors. The warriors hadn't even played 1 finals game and the media have them Champs and kd should regret leaving gs. First he was wrong to go to gs. Now it is he was wrong to leave gs
@leeroyuckface6893
@leeroyuckface6893 2 года назад
U think they knew be was going to start talking crazy there? You people are annoying
@MatthewSmith-lr8bm
@MatthewSmith-lr8bm 2 года назад
@@leeroyuckface6893 so why do they keep having him back? 🤔
@Mercurial.
@Mercurial. 2 года назад
It was Lebron who started that OFFICIALLY with the GOAT DEBATE about when he put himself in there on his own show with his posse team of Maverick and Rich being there and said: "That right there made me the greatest of all time, that what I felt" That's another CHEATING message Lebron did and that's WHY he's never respected amongst fans outside LeFolks and other LEGENDS of the game.
@hakeemw8910
@hakeemw8910 2 года назад
KD spot on. The media guys trying to be bigger than the players. It’s great TV at times but it just creates a player v player and you have to pick a side
@Commsense750
@Commsense750 2 года назад
Stephen A a character. He literally goes into character. When I saw dude getting filmed walking into the area lmmfao
@cornelldavis6703
@cornelldavis6703 2 года назад
Yeah he was walking in like he was playing!!
@TheKondinho
@TheKondinho 2 года назад
He thought he was Stone Cold Steve Austin that day 😂
@kingfree3396
@kingfree3396 2 года назад
Kevin Durant is 100 percent correct
@tfive24
@tfive24 2 года назад
True, because if a guy doesn't win a ring, he's not considered the best. It's a team game.
@thenflisnothingwithouttomb8939
@thenflisnothingwithouttomb8939 2 года назад
Well you can be great without a ring but if you were truly the greatest you'd have several rings.
@EduardoOliveira-zx9ju
@EduardoOliveira-zx9ju 2 года назад
@@thenflisnothingwithouttomb8939 Shaq til this day shames Charles saying: "You don't have one of these Chuck!". That bothers players, and it forces them to pair with stars creating an imbalance of talent around the league
@thenflisnothingwithouttomb8939
@thenflisnothingwithouttomb8939 2 года назад
@@EduardoOliveira-zx9ju Yup, That is what happens.
@jeffsamuels2539
@jeffsamuels2539 2 года назад
@@EduardoOliveira-zx9ju greek freak?
@chilltrav9273
@chilltrav9273 2 года назад
I agree! I miss the ESPN loop! It wasnt personal! These new media guys and shows have made it personal and have focused on drama and comparisons than actual sports!
@EduardoOliveira-zx9ju
@EduardoOliveira-zx9ju 2 года назад
Stephen A DEEEEPLY hates Kyrie. "Kyrie" is ESPN'S clickbait title. We fans want sports journalist/analyst. NOT personalities
@vincentdigirolomo8056
@vincentdigirolomo8056 2 года назад
Extremely well put!
@jicalzad
@jicalzad 2 года назад
Drama sells! If they just reported on wins and basketball mechanics, then only die hard basketball fans would watch. They need to attract viewers from all aspects of the spectrum. But I do think the constant love affair with Michael Jordan needs to stop. I’m tired of everyone comparing the modern greats against Jordan. I grew up in the late 80s and 90s, so I know how great he was. But when Jordan played, I didn’t care much about Wilt Chamberlain or Bill Russell which were the former greats of the previous eras. Just like I don’t care much about Jordan now because there’s KD, Lebron, Steph, Giannis, and the rest of the current greats
@bayodaman
@bayodaman 2 года назад
@@EduardoOliveira-zx9ju Not really, literally nobody forces you to watch these guys. A 100 million other shows beside ESPN First Take but you decide to watch it ever morning? Make that make sense bro.
@user-js7mo3wy4z
@user-js7mo3wy4z 2 года назад
KD is 100% right
@dylanallen7720
@dylanallen7720 2 года назад
100% sensitive.
@xkid.darkskin5178
@xkid.darkskin5178 2 года назад
@@dylanallen7720 your literally in the comments responding to everyone 😂😂
@dylanallen7720
@dylanallen7720 2 года назад
@@xkid.darkskin5178 and?
@erroneouse1929
@erroneouse1929 2 года назад
@@dylanallen7720 it mean you’re sensitive and guaranteed to respond, you bozo🤣🤣🤡🤡
@dreamcage1801
@dreamcage1801 2 года назад
Thin skin
@youngrob2121
@youngrob2121 2 года назад
I'm no KD fan but he definitely has a point... But as bad as SAS is for the game he doesnt hold a candle to the damage skip his done to the game... That guy literally has people thinking a player can not miss a single shot drop 51 points 15 ast and 20 rebounds but since he went 2-5 from the ft line and someone with 10pts but perfect from the ft line in the 4th quarter hes the reason they won the game.
@vicshephard9231
@vicshephard9231 2 года назад
Skip will go back to when some all-star missed free throws in 3rd grade to say the kid doesn't have a clutch gene.
@youngrob2121
@youngrob2121 2 года назад
@@secoTheSonicFan no one cares about what you republican domestic terrorists have to say... The entire world will forever know you as a terriorst party and no amount of conspiracy theories will change that fact... Now no cry somewhere else
@aaronbarkley539
@aaronbarkley539 2 года назад
Nah what ruined the NBA is a player ran NBA they are all so entitled, non motivated, and arrogant. The worst thing to ever happen to the NBA is players jumping around teams cause they “feel” like it
@josephbowen5640
@josephbowen5640 2 года назад
@@vicshephard9231 Skip Says Stuff For Entertainment just to Debate Shannon Sharpe. stephen A Racist smith is A Douche Bag He Thinks He Knows More Then He Really Does. So Yes K.D. is Right About stephen A Racist smith .
@josephbowen5640
@josephbowen5640 2 года назад
@@aaronbarkley539 Your Correct Plus These Athletes In Sports Make Way to Much They Are Way Way Way Overpaid And Most of them Go Broke Then They Do Shows Wanting Others to Feel Sorry For Them. Which I Never Do. You Make Millions and Go Broke That is your Fault and Nobody Else to Blame , But Yourself.
@zicomoney3696
@zicomoney3696 2 года назад
I love KD more the more he tweets 🤣🤣🤣
@shemian8757
@shemian8757 2 года назад
It’s crazy how no one rips into these people for having a problem with Kevin durant responding to twitter users with no followers, this man is so humble he would talk to anyone while these reporters want us to believe that you should only respond to people with a certain status……it’s crazy to me
@CiaraITB
@CiaraITB 2 года назад
Thank you! They keep trying to project their shallow feelings onto him. I hate it.
@mackenzieyoung5306
@mackenzieyoung5306 2 года назад
Kd ended Stephen a with his own meme😂😂😂😂
@coolvibesonly2914
@coolvibesonly2914 2 года назад
The fact y’all being so dismissive of what he said proves his point even more I’m glad we have Kd and there are a few other players who don’t care about the backlash of going at the media
@ricolaw2293
@ricolaw2293 2 года назад
EXACTLY!
@ianbahamonde6679
@ianbahamonde6679 2 года назад
🤣Kd mad the media calls him out , he treats himself Like MJ or lebron but can’t handle ANY criticism yes he’s allowed to go at fans that’s his right but he’s not even realistic with his beliefs
@raulromero2948
@raulromero2948 2 года назад
Brousard looked at it from his point it just sounds like you don't listen
@alexsheene3810
@alexsheene3810 2 года назад
What's kd gonna do when the salary drops 80% with no entertainment media related to the league? Grow up, stop being sensitive and get paid millions for it.
@doleph1
@doleph1 2 года назад
Except KD cares about the backlash, that's why the media jumps on him when he tweets. He has a legendary thin skin. Next he'll come out saying some nonsense about just wanting to play the game and not focus on the media. Happens every time.
@chillzwills6523
@chillzwills6523 2 года назад
Sometimes today's media debate shows just find things to talk about.. When you start circulating talking points like "KD should feel bad about the warriors potentially winning a chip abs he shouldn't have left. " that was 2 years ago and the warriors are coming off two seasons of not making the playoffs. Why does KD have to feel bad about winning 2 chips and getting 2 finals mvps and then moving on to try to win elsewhere.
@njb2111
@njb2111 2 года назад
KD on the money with this one. Fans and athletes know that these "unbiased" Media Analysts are just shock jocks nowadays. Name calling, over-analyzing, and obsessive bullying of specific athletes is all you from the majority of the debate shows. That's why athlete driven podcasts are starting to take over and is a safe place for other athletes to authentically express themselves.
@wilsonpereira6581
@wilsonpereira6581 2 года назад
Westbrook got destroyed on undisputed this past season.
@user-gc1wj8tt2p
@user-gc1wj8tt2p 2 года назад
safe place? really?
@courteneydaniels
@courteneydaniels 2 года назад
Right I do believe there is some good to sports analysts but nowadays I find myself watching player podcast 100% more because of the realness and the deep dive on the game which is what we want!
@fuzz538
@fuzz538 2 года назад
@@user-gc1wj8tt2p everyone needs a safe place where they feel comfortable enough to discuss their feelings openly.. we can't have any sensitive people feeling uncomfortable
@theiggod6921
@theiggod6921 2 года назад
Shannon Sharp said about KD one time, that when he praises KD dozens of times, takes KD's side, that KD has nothing to say. But the one time you say something negative about him he's calling you out.
@bb360mg
@bb360mg 2 года назад
actually he lied on Kevin durant then when Kevin Durant confronted on it Shannon block him with no explanation
@atlkevin23
@atlkevin23 2 года назад
@@bb360mg what did he lie about?
@andrebritten
@andrebritten 2 года назад
@@atlkevin23 Shannon lied on him on undisputed and KD called his lie on his Twitter page and Shannon blocked him afterwards so Shannon can dish it but can’t take it
@atlkevin23
@atlkevin23 2 года назад
@@andrebritten once again, what did he lie about ?
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 2 года назад
@@atlkevin23 it was a fake quote Shannon used on undisputed The fake quote basically went if Lebron the GOAT and I beat him what does that make me, I'm paraphrasing here but Shannon said KD said that quote when he never did
@Greego
@Greego 2 года назад
All these “analysts” do is try to discredit any negative feedback from players by calling them “sensitive.” The analysts never have the ability to self-reflect and admit when they are out-of-line when criticizing the athletes. All they want to do is be dismissive of the athletes standing up for themselves when the media disrespects them and talk about them as if they are inhuman. Can the Stephen A Smiths and Skip Baylesses of the media do their job without disrespecting athletes so much? Do they have to call them out of their names and go for the constant nasty insults? Do they have to paint a picture of the athlete being the scum of the Earth all the time? You want to put all sorts of nasty spins on athletes names like “Westbrick” and “Lechoke” but when they fight back it’s “oh, they are just so sensitive.” I wonder how sensitive some of these analysts jaws would be if they said some of those comments to their faces… 🤔
@raymondweaver2023
@raymondweaver2023 2 года назад
They are being sensitive because that's the cost of doing business. If you are a top player or in the spotlight, they should have the discernment that this is what comes with it. Any great successful person who is in the spotlight will always amass haters/criticizers. It is what come with the game, or any field of success...like the song by Rico Richie, "if he ain't got no haters, he ain't poppin." All the people they speak heavily on are noteworthy players (MVPs, All-Stars, Scoring Champions, etc.) It's better to accept things for as it is, than complaining on something that will not change (human nature).
@Greego
@Greego 2 года назад
@@raymondweaver2023 This is going to be long because I really think this is very important. First, I see your point… Some of these analysts just really cross the line. I agree that the players should be able to take a lot of criticism and they should have a thick skin but some of these analysts just go so far as to plainly disrespect them as men. It goes beyond even just roasting them and it becomes inflammatory. You are right that some things just come with the territory but if the analysts can dish it out then they should be able to take it too. When it is thrown back into their faces all of a sudden the players are said to be “sensitive” because they dish it back or defend themselves. I don’t think the players should just have to sit there and take all that without fighting back. More than anything, I think the analysts can do their jobs well without having to destroy the players reputations and assassinate their characters. Stephen A Smith (SAS) once said on live TV that he would trade away the man that is Andrew Wiggins for a box of cookies. An athlete’s kid, mother and father have to hear him trash their loved one like that on TV and Wiggins never did anything to Stephen A Smith. There is a history of black men being traded as if they are worthless or subhuman and he wants to say that on national television? SAS made the point that analysts have always done this but fans just were not able to read it all because the internet was not available back in the day and that is just not true. Journalism and reporting in media has changed drastically over the past few decades. It was a lot more about just reporting in the earlier days of the NBA. They did not go around destroying the players like they do now. These players are not animals or pets.
@macthemessenger
@macthemessenger 2 года назад
I get both sides. I think the issue with the debate shows is when you can tell when a person that is debating doesn't like someone so all of his takes will be biased and lack objectivity. For example, Skip with LeBron. Lebron put ten laughing emojis one time and Skip read more into it than need be. And now he doesn't like Luka and says Luka can't shoot. Like really. No one watching Luka's game will say he can't shoot. So when these debaters don't like someone it takes fun out of the debates.
@vicshephard9231
@vicshephard9231 2 года назад
Fans have to get smarter. This shouldn't be acceptable.
@thatomalebese9160
@thatomalebese9160 2 года назад
KD just should've went at skip, that's the only blatant grandpa who's great at being bias
@stinger5127
@stinger5127 2 года назад
@@thatomalebese9160 you forgot the man in this video Rob Parker
@flyguy7825
@flyguy7825 2 года назад
Kevin Durant is 100% right. He is a clear example of the media crucifying him and he pointed straight at Stephen A. Smith It was Stephen A Smith that started this whole thing with Kevin Durant saying how it was a punk move for him to go to the warriors when he was a free agent and it was his choice to go to the warriors and he didn't force his way out of Oklahoma City and now he is still giving him criticism for leaving the warriors and going to the Brooklyn Nets how the hell does that work?Of course these two are going to have a problem with it because they don't disagree with it and it makes them look bad if they did agree with it
@jaydell4039
@jaydell4039 2 года назад
I didn’t need the media to tell me it was a punk move. It really was a soft punk move. Anybody could see that. U were up 3-1 on the warriors and choked and instead of running it back the man ran to a 73-9 team. I’m sorry it was a soft move before stephen said anything
@vlada
@vlada 2 года назад
Remember when the clown tried to pseudo threaten KD?
@EduardoOliveira-zx9ju
@EduardoOliveira-zx9ju 2 года назад
Stephen A. HUMILATED KD for joining Golden State. Now he gets on TV daily to shame him for leaving. That's like your girlfriend saying you're free to cheat with other women, then becomes angry you got another woman pregnant
@jimmycharlotin7050
@jimmycharlotin7050 2 года назад
I told you they stephan a smith 10 million dollars to run his mouth and scrutinize his own people let stephan a smith criticize white people I guarantee you he would get fired
@twojeeze
@twojeeze 2 года назад
@@EduardoOliveira-zx9ju He doesn't shame KD for leaving GS. He shames him for leaving Steph to join KYRIE of all people. How has that turned out for him so far? I think that's a fair criticism.
@nicholsdeshan
@nicholsdeshan 2 года назад
I'm with Chris I'm a 90s baby I would've never imagined Larry "Legend" going 3-11 back to back games in the Finals
@jeffsamuels2539
@jeffsamuels2539 2 года назад
Tragic johnson
@phillipschuman4307
@phillipschuman4307 2 года назад
He missed a chance to make his point even better. After Bird's two 8 point games in a row, and talk that Robert Reid had his number, and was the Bird stopper, you know Bird would roar back. So in the next game, Bird 'exploded' for... 12 points.
@goldstream5147
@goldstream5147 2 года назад
Sadly, these analysts try to generalize their poor reporting saying “we’re just doing what guys have been doing in barbershops for decades.” Nope. The way analysts talk about these players matters and is not the same quality amongst different reporters. It’s not good which is why we push for athletes to take over media
@antzking8935
@antzking8935 2 года назад
Players are scrutinized more, but also praised more. We talk about many of these guys already in the top 75 and better than past players with more accomplished careers. So it works both ways.
@ObiAmajoyiSrMD
@ObiAmajoyiSrMD 2 года назад
Using the top 75 to support your assertion that we praise them more makes absolutely NO SENSE.
@dominicrichards4367
@dominicrichards4367 2 года назад
You barely every see someone getting praised without the media mentioning someone else career, the media is nonsense. Most of them never even made it to the nba level as an athletic but criticize them like they have that’s why I only watch the real sports shows like nba game time and inside the nba them other folks seem bitter just saying
@DariusClarkWallace
@DariusClarkWallace 2 года назад
Man Dwight Howard got left off this list PURELY because of scrutiny. His resume is CLEARLY top 75 but because of the narratives these shows create his legacy got knocked
@r.brown0294
@r.brown0294 2 года назад
praised? Idk derozen never gets his respect because he shoots mid range jumpers. media (gotlieb, nick wright) was sayin its out of style
@queyoung6597
@queyoung6597 2 года назад
@@r.brown0294 I’ve seen people on TV say Derozan should be in the MVP conversation.
@lothianslegacy9409
@lothianslegacy9409 2 года назад
I'm literally watching the media trying to manufacture a Curry vs Durant beef. While Boston and GSW are in the finals sickening.
@califleadog5657
@califleadog5657 2 года назад
exactly
@evenebrown7353
@evenebrown7353 2 года назад
They keep trying to pit kd against the warriors like he wasn't part of the team and wasn't it 3 years ago
@Dustyphoto915
@Dustyphoto915 2 года назад
The media isn’t trying to do anything but make money. That’s a problem in America now?
@josephmckenney-barschall864
@josephmckenney-barschall864 2 года назад
The media has definitely enhanced the championship or bust mentality that has hurt the sport. Tanking only makes sense if making the playoffs and losing in the second round is unacceptable. If you tank you are invisible, but if you lose in the playoffs like the Jazz did, you get castigated. Further, the appeal of the NBA comes from the relationship between the players and the fans, and this constant attitude that Dame is some how a failure for not joining a super team kills that. LeBron went to Miami because the media decided that he was a failure for not winning in Cleveland. That is sort of the same reason Durant went to Golden State. The media constantly bellyaching about the greats of today is also responsible for killing the hype, but that is a separate thing.
@universe-ie2mk
@universe-ie2mk 2 года назад
Durant is right. Do u know what lebron's field goal percentage in the finals? No and you shouldnt. These debate shows have loads of stats to nitpick about how a guy isnt clutch or they made the wrong play. Too much instant analysis and grand proclamations over a single game.
@melvinbarnett1910
@melvinbarnett1910 2 года назад
SAS in particular played college ball and averaged 0.8 points or something like that, how the hell does he gets to tell us who's trash as a player?
@MasterTrickShot
@MasterTrickShot 2 года назад
And NONE of them have ever been competent athletes. 95%+ of sports media would get dogged at a rec center their whole life
@soda8736
@soda8736 2 года назад
@@MasterTrickShot Well Popavich never played in the league. Guess he doesn't know basketball. 🤷
@MasterTrickShot
@MasterTrickShot 2 года назад
@@soda8736 Outliers are exceptions, not the rule. Goofy stop comparing Skip Bayless role/job to rare great coaches.
@leakman1208
@leakman1208 2 года назад
@@MasterTrickShot sports is entertainment, do I need to be an oscar winner to say a movie was bad?
@sunnyside9273
@sunnyside9273 2 года назад
Its partially true, just like 24/7 news networks. Its editorialized for the hot take without complete analysis, simplified. As if the complete team doesn't matter & "one" superstar talent wins in a vacuum. It's absurd !
@kamotetops1572
@kamotetops1572 2 года назад
TNT crew all the way! This is why Chuck is the most important thing to basketball media. He is the only one that has been there done that, THAT isn't afraid to criticize players. (Shaq has favoritism and Kenny doesn't want heat from players)
@brainhakker7133
@brainhakker7133 2 года назад
Kenny is a vacuum of funny ...... there is just nothing there !
@mrbarry2091
@mrbarry2091 2 года назад
@@brainhakker7133 I think you're confusing Charles with Kenny. Charles is moronic and is said to be funny. Kenny has intellect and a real student of the game. Also a two time WORLD CHAMPION.
@brainhakker7133
@brainhakker7133 2 года назад
@@mrbarry2091 Yeah all that TALK don't mean DOODLEY SQUAT !! Kenny woulda been gone a Decade Ago of it weren't for Chuck and them Adding SHAQ !!
@mrbarry2091
@mrbarry2091 2 года назад
@@brainhakker7133 ok
@BoomorBust
@BoomorBust 2 года назад
I love the odd couple...and I give them a 10% respect level for bringing this up....but maaaan if these two didn't pussyfoot around and play get off my lawn. I'm not a fan of all the things KD says...but this was 100% right. Obviously these two work for "sports media" but that industry has made sports significantly worse with the constant overdramatizing and overanalysis of every little sensationalized headline while finding time to skip over every single thing of substance. And these two couldn't even find a glimmer of criticism. Players benefitted? Get out of here. With social media today...even without "debate shows"...the players would be just fine.
@deebell7964
@deebell7964 2 года назад
Yea these so called experts are really full of themselves and think they are bigger than the games they cover.
@vicshephard9231
@vicshephard9231 2 года назад
Lol they are a little funny.
@evenebrown7353
@evenebrown7353 2 года назад
If they could just talk about the game and if a player had a bad game yes, be critical. Good game, praise but all the narratives, legacy talk is getting crazy
@jeffsamuels2539
@jeffsamuels2539 2 года назад
It’s capitalism. Everybody chasing a dollar selling their souls for a buck. Watering down the product.
@kayodeayodele8835
@kayodeayodele8835 2 года назад
I get where KD is coming from, but speaking as a fan from Africa, I want to say that the sports shows ABSOLUTELY have contributed to enhancing the league globally. Without these shows, I and so many other out there are not fans. Facts.
@muzimchunu9993
@muzimchunu9993 2 года назад
Facts!!! Am in South Africa & feel the same. These guys are global superstars in part, a lot in fact due to proliferation of these shows. It’s in our consciousness far more than the past which are increased their marketability. KD is cherry picking as usual when it suits them
@justicestyles
@justicestyles 2 года назад
KD been on 🔥 lately … I’m not gon lie I’ve acquired more respect and admiration for him …. I
@fabledogify
@fabledogify 2 года назад
Weird how everyone hates sports media so much but then watches it all the time lol
@jicalzad
@jicalzad 2 года назад
Facts. Sounds like KD watches 1st Take and Undisputed all the time
@harryjay6650
@harryjay6650 2 года назад
The media really needs to be called to order. They find ways to talk about everything except the game of basketball. It has become a gossip column with popularity contest and honestly dumbing down the kind of fans we have these days. It is more about criticizing particular players borderline insulting players for clicks and views without any commentary on the game itself. And it's so sad that their opinion have financial implications for these players including manipulating talks on contracts, all-star and all-teams. Most importantly they can manipulate your legacy. The narrative they propagate stay online forever, it's why people who were not fans in d MJ, kobe, Hakeem, Bill Russell era know about these players. If they cultivate a false narrative about these players it's what future fans will think these players truly are. Best thing for players is to call out bullsh*t as they happen and shut it down, control your legacy and your narrative. If they say you are sensitive, soft or feminine so be it. A Man must be in control of his own legacy not letting a bunch of bias fanboys tear down what you have work so hard to build.
@evenebrown7353
@evenebrown7353 2 года назад
Couldn't of said it better. Sports media getting like regular media, just trying to get clicks instead of the facts
@blackmason4373
@blackmason4373 2 года назад
I like this. And imagine being held back from the hof because of certain media that dont like you.
@alexsheene3810
@alexsheene3810 2 года назад
Can you talk in specifics? Who is talking about personal things and not the game? I think people just imagine things
@HotspurFC-cu6ny
@HotspurFC-cu6ny 2 года назад
Kevin Durant and draymond green the gifts that keep on giving
@eddievangundy4510
@eddievangundy4510 Год назад
Nah. KD Is right, Green is mostly wrong.
@troyduffie3836
@troyduffie3836 2 года назад
KD is right in the sense that someone has to drag the other guy, even after a great game or series for the shows to work. We have spent 19 years overanalyzing LeBron who will end his career as the leading scorer with 10 or 11 finals appearances and 4 or 5 chips. It'll seem pretty ludicrous 1-2 years after he's done playing.
@EduardoOliveira-zx9ju
@EduardoOliveira-zx9ju 2 года назад
Jimmy Butler was dragged for taking a three when the Heat were totally depleted. Jimmy couldn't have done more, but still questions were lingering
@douglasbryant9571
@douglasbryant9571 2 года назад
If Lebron retires after next season, Skip will criticize him for not playing until he reached Brady's age.
@melvinbarnett1910
@melvinbarnett1910 2 года назад
He aint clutch, Steph will surpass him with an finals MVP like woa SAS what's the rush?
@douglasbryant9571
@douglasbryant9571 2 года назад
@@melvinbarnett1910 The standard every Superstar's legacy has always been judged by is Championships. Nobody made a big deal about Finals MVP until Skip started emphasizing it to discredit Steph for not having one. Skip tried pulling the same stunt last NFL season, hyping obscure "air distance" and "turnover worth play" categories for Brady during the QB MVP race.
@3rdCoastAlliance
@3rdCoastAlliance 2 года назад
As a former professional athlete...every piece of praise that I've received from people who weren't my parents, was a rope to hang me with later. The pressure to live up to other people's expectations is a drag, and I'm happy for those who are able to just play for the love of the game. Money doesn't buy happiness.
@evenebrown7353
@evenebrown7353 2 года назад
You are so right. Some people praise and build you up just to break you down. Take pleasure in it
@samjon6403
@samjon6403 2 года назад
Consistency is critical. If a professional athlete making millions a year, then it's important to deliver for these expectations.
@3rdCoastAlliance
@3rdCoastAlliance 2 года назад
@@samjon6403 no, I don't think so. The athlete earns his salary based on past deeds. There's a hope that they will continue to perform at said level; but there is no guarantee. In any business situation, there's risk involved...just because you don't like the way it turns out doesn't mean you pay him less than what he negotiated in his contact. He's earned the money that the market allows him to get. It's up to the managers to decide if they want to re-sign him to a different contract or trade him if he starts falling off.
@samjon6403
@samjon6403 2 года назад
@@3rdCoastAlliance if you have a job and after sometime you slack or don't perform as expected, you'll either be demoted, fired or put on an improvement program. I don't understand how that does not apply to athletes too. He's paid for a certain expectation.
@3rdCoastAlliance
@3rdCoastAlliance 2 года назад
@@samjon6403 have you ever been a salaried employee before? Have you ever signed a contract where you were to be paid a fixed amount of money yearly, regardless of how many hours you worked? You keep acting as if these athletes are wage workers, they're not.
@da_woo8414
@da_woo8414 2 года назад
It’s the insults Rob...It’s the name calling...the downplaying of Greatness Rob-Ala Tom Freakin Brady. All time players who have proven themselves multiple champions should not be bad mouthed. NOr nit picked for weaknesses because none of the media has ever done it
@123456CBOY
@123456CBOY 2 года назад
West brick, le brick those skips words
@TheKondinho
@TheKondinho 2 года назад
Exactly
@2robjenkins
@2robjenkins 2 года назад
They should never be making a play on a man’s name, that his legacy and his family. Low key wish these dudes would get checked for that.
@basti9181
@basti9181 2 года назад
When I was trying to understand basketball and get to know the players and the teams very well, these talk/debate shows were of help to me. I'm not in America btw, I'm a Ghanaian. I used to skip NFL segments bc I didn't have an interest but I remember watching a show about the NFL and seeing how passionate the debaters were about the NFL. I decided to watch 1 or 2 games and learnt the rules. I've not regretted it at all. Although I don't know all the squad members of all teams (53 is a lot to keep), I enjoy the games. So while I understand KD's sentiments, it goes both ways as Rob Parker put it (I can't believe I agree with Rob on something). These shows help grow the game. You can't have your cake and eat it.
@rogerglaveegeo2023
@rogerglaveegeo2023 2 года назад
Omg scary same experience. I am also from Ghana but live in Norway. And I kinda agree. I also watch forst take and all the debat shows at the start. But now that I am more knowledgeable. Even thoug i agree it increases the interest in the sport. I believe they do it by dumbing it down. As someone Else in the comments wrote. Instead of watching a game and marvelling at the brilliance whiles trying to catch on with the tactics and stuff. It becomes more steph va jayson tatum. Or superstar qb vs superstar qb. Like there are not others participating and getting paid a lot of money to be good themselves. And play their roles
@rogerglaveegeo2023
@rogerglaveegeo2023 2 года назад
I also think that because they cant analyze every game and every moment. It leads to more screaming and Just giving their opinion. And many of them never evolve their takes. Flip flopping is bad ofc. But they behave like changing an opinion based on new info is outlandish. And means one lack integrity.
@christiansoldier77
@christiansoldier77 2 года назад
I dont understand why KD is salty with SAS when SAS always praises him when others try to downplay him
@bjrowland25
@bjrowland25 2 года назад
Forreal Stephen A defend KD like a spouse but I think KD wasn’t only talking about himself but all the players in the league. How they compare and tear down one player to uplift another just to try to prove a point.
@tigera6
@tigera6 2 года назад
Same with Skip Bayless, the guy protected KD like the son he never had, but KD trashing him every single time, calling him dumb and clueless.
@bosslady83
@bosslady83 2 года назад
He doesn’t like when they uplift him but at the same time try a tear someone else down like LeBron.
@benaiahknox7759
@benaiahknox7759 2 года назад
@Christian Soldier KD probably doesn't like Stephen A saying the stuff he did about his best friend Kyrie Irving.
@mvalentine2014
@mvalentine2014 2 года назад
@@tigera6 does Skip not sound dumb and clueless at times?
@jb5470
@jb5470 2 года назад
Media need to stay with the truth with in the game. Not create false narrative for ratings. Y’all know that.
@JohnDavis_90
@JohnDavis_90 2 года назад
Ratings equal dollars soooo... its all about money bro. Nothing more nothing less
@waynesargeant5543
@waynesargeant5543 2 года назад
You guys strayed away from what he was responding to. Stephen A said Michael Jordan changed basketball for the worse. So KD responded that no that's not true, that it is actually you Stephen A that changed the game for the worse. You only responded to KD and not answer the big elephant in the room. Typical.
@chinandlerbong9038
@chinandlerbong9038 2 года назад
These two never once talked about the product on the court. I think KD was making a comment about that
@OscarUnrated
@OscarUnrated 2 года назад
Talking X’s and O’s is bad for ratings
@chinandlerbong9038
@chinandlerbong9038 2 года назад
@@OscarUnrated The claim was that people in the media hurt the game and these guys got all sensitive about their profession instead of addressing the claim
@raregoodds3143
@raregoodds3143 2 года назад
Kd right to a degree. Every day pretty much the last 2 weeks, topics had something to do with KD and his not playing.
@soda8736
@soda8736 2 года назад
Because he keeps tweeting
@evenebrown7353
@evenebrown7353 2 года назад
What has tweeting got to do with it. Boston and gs are in the finals. Talk about them. Kd hasn't been in playoffs since first round are gs and boston boring
@seonwallace
@seonwallace 2 года назад
You're proud to call SAS a friend🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 man kevin is 1000 percent right.
@vincentdigirolomo8056
@vincentdigirolomo8056 2 года назад
I gotta say i am extremely impressed by KD rise to media super stardom! He’s obviously an all time great and already a top 15 player of all time. But kThe level he’s reached off the court though is what I’m really impressed with. He’s been out of the post season for a over month now and the media won’t get off his 7ft tall NUT SACK! He’s been talked about non stop on every popular sports tv show and radio station Monday-Friday over and over! So Congrats KD! The media has continued to make utter fools of themselves daily talking about you and you haven’t even dribbled a basketball! This is Lebron and lakers level type coverage Hahaa
@vicshephard9231
@vicshephard9231 2 года назад
I remember back in the good ole days when the media only talked about the teams in the finals when it was June.
@evenebrown7353
@evenebrown7353 2 года назад
I so agree, kd hasn't been in the playoffs for a while and he is being talked about more the the 2 teams still standing
@evenebrown7353
@evenebrown7353 2 года назад
I so agree, kd hasn't been in the playoffs for a while and he is being talked about more the the 2 teams still standing
@jeffsamuels2539
@jeffsamuels2539 2 года назад
Top 15 warrior
@jonsnipe5484
@jonsnipe5484 2 года назад
KD is the SOAT. Sensitive of all time😂😂 he first ballot HOF
@njones0716
@njones0716 2 года назад
Lmaooooo
@stringerbell8945
@stringerbell8945 2 года назад
Naw definitely Lebum James is leading that category
@riptide_main3272
@riptide_main3272 2 года назад
@@stringerbell8945 nah you definitely lead in that 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 you sorry dude
@stringerbell8945
@stringerbell8945 2 года назад
@@riptide_main3272 Aww...Lebum fanboy 😂😂😂
@jeromec1983
@jeromec1983 2 года назад
Just imagine someone that hasnt done your job or lived your life constantly judging your job/life. I would love to see how folks in the comments would handle this.
@MR.__G
@MR.__G 2 года назад
The players don’t need the media. When I got into basketball it was because of Jordan, iverson, Kobe… not because of no damn media. The players are the gifted talent not media
@369pendulum
@369pendulum 2 года назад
You didn't watch documentaries growing up? You never read articles? You don't watch ESPN of FOX?
@takedownTony6
@takedownTony6 2 года назад
Yet you’re here….
@MR.__G
@MR.__G 2 года назад
@@369pendulum yes I’ve watch them. That was never the reason I got into basketball or a reason to make me want to watch a game. Players & teams are what made me become a basketball fanatic & a hooper.
@MR.__G
@MR.__G 2 года назад
@@takedownTony6 stupid comment ! Just because I watch media shows doesn’t mean it’s the reason I became a basketball fanatic. Imagine thinking people who just talk are the reason I love basketball. That sounds dumb as hell.
@mylessmith8059
@mylessmith8059 2 года назад
the legacy talk has defiantly gotten out of control, but when they start coming at the ex-players it's like criticism is not ok, which it defiantly is
@curtissnanashi1488
@curtissnanashi1488 2 года назад
Much respect Chris for mentioning George Michael's Sports Machine.
@MrDarius30
@MrDarius30 2 года назад
I have been saying this for years and the fact they have made millions by criticizing these athletes.
@davidbordeaux1575
@davidbordeaux1575 2 года назад
Dudes can’t take or handle any criticism.
@jeromec1983
@jeromec1983 2 года назад
That extends to the real world too. Folks on here acting like they could handle the pressure these dudes have.
@davidbordeaux1575
@davidbordeaux1575 2 года назад
@@jeromec1983 true, that’s fair. But I haven’t seen any sports commentators that don’t give the good with bad. I think Stephen A does a good job of being fair.
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1
@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 2 года назад
@@davidbordeaux1575 SAS doesn't keep his consistency Look how he handled the COVID situation of Kyrie and AR12 bearing in mind AR12 *Lied* about his situation whereas Kyrie never used misdirection tactics Meanwhile SAS was screaming at Kyrie for a week straight and spoke about AR12 like a family member died
@jeromec1983
@jeromec1983 2 года назад
@@davidbordeaux1575 Being fair? You do know Kyrie was not the only unvaccinated player...The only man who should have had a problem is the man that pays Kyrie. If Kyrie and KD played for his team the Knicks his tone would be different. Would you take medical advice from a non-doctor?
@davidbordeaux1575
@davidbordeaux1575 2 года назад
@@RANDOMZBOSSMAN1 yeah his energy was tampered down with AR…lol. He did say lied but he didn’t ride the energy as long as he did KE.
@clos4474
@clos4474 2 года назад
He mentioned skip and shannon too. Sad that Rob and Chris are jealous, and didn't put them in the title
@makokhawaomba4954
@makokhawaomba4954 2 года назад
Man Chris Broussard just took me back to the 80''s when all I ever looked forward to was The George Michael sports machine. Shout out to the tv station that broadcasted the show in Africa
@blackmason4373
@blackmason4373 2 года назад
I forgot all about that. Im 47 and you just unlocked a good memory. That was my go to when i first started getting into sports.🙏🙏
@njones0716
@njones0716 2 года назад
Kevin Durant just needs to stop having thin skin. He has a comment for everything and everybody. Sometimes silence is golden. Way too sensitive
@jonsnipe5484
@jonsnipe5484 2 года назад
I agree but he didn't say no lies
@pitoseavy4523
@pitoseavy4523 2 года назад
He’s sensitive when people talk about him 🤣he’s sensitive when he talk about stuff ??? What ?? Ya be saying anything like a human can’t comment on things 💯
@pitoseavy4523
@pitoseavy4523 2 года назад
A player can’t never comment on something without you 🍆🚴🏼Nba fans say they “got thin skin” so they not humans?? They can’t talk on nothing ?? Ya don’t even kno the game but want them not to talk about it🤦🏽‍♂️
@njones0716
@njones0716 2 года назад
@@pitoseavy4523 Facts! Meanwhile talk about yall got swept and sent home 🏡 😐 💀
@pitoseavy4523
@pitoseavy4523 2 года назад
@@njones0716 bro Actually a warriors fan but you 🍆🚴🏼 make it easy to hate you
@jicalzad
@jicalzad 2 года назад
As much as KD hates Stephen A. & Skip Bayless, he must sure love watching their shows since he always seems to know what’s being said about him. So, KD seems to be adding to their ratings
@ameerabdullah4045
@ameerabdullah4045 2 года назад
Rob is right. He really hit home when he is right. And willing to brag about it. He need to use that same energy when he is wrong.
@willg.9760
@willg.9760 2 года назад
I agree tv shows like yours made me more interested in watching sports games to see what even been missing 💯
@christiansoldier77
@christiansoldier77 2 года назад
Jordan did get crushed for gambling in Atlantic City. What are you talking about?
@BIGJERSEY908
@BIGJERSEY908 2 года назад
no he didnt. social media wasnt out.
@JB-tp6uj
@JB-tp6uj 2 года назад
No, hardcore basketball fans knew about Jordan's issues, but he was largely protected and the general audience didn't know about his problems off the court.
@christiansoldier77
@christiansoldier77 2 года назад
@@BIGJERSEY908 MJ was social media back. Everybody talked about him . You werent around to know anything about it. You just dont know what you dont know
@Iceman-oc4ep
@Iceman-oc4ep 2 года назад
KD is right and I've been waiting for someone to say this. Media hurts every industry!
@alfredjackson7058
@alfredjackson7058 2 года назад
As u get older u realize how much power they have they can literally turn a whole fan base against a player
@EduardoOliveira-zx9ju
@EduardoOliveira-zx9ju 2 года назад
@@alfredjackson7058 Kyrie Irving signed a contract to play basketball. Not inject something into his body that we don't know 100% about. (I'm vaccinated). The media TRIED to convince us that Kyrie is selfish, arrogant, and he's not passionate about basketball. This is why I establish my opinions before I watch bias made television
@justinpelletier4015
@justinpelletier4015 2 года назад
Thank you for showing your full segments of your shows. Unlike ESPN.
@itsarendezvous
@itsarendezvous 2 года назад
It's not just Stephen A, Skip, and Shannon. Social media allows just about everybody in the world to publicly critique what we are seeing. People giving their opinions do not ruin the game.
@homeshomes3855
@homeshomes3855 2 года назад
Especially when they also have the right/platform to control their own narrative, other than cry about it, consistently. i.e. Draymond Green.
@welcometomychannelswelcome7261
@welcometomychannelswelcome7261 2 года назад
I strongly agree with KD. NBA became drama shows
@a_collection_of_cell
@a_collection_of_cell 2 года назад
Only problem I have with SAS he flip-flops with his takes.
@hershelpogue1745
@hershelpogue1745 2 года назад
Kevin Durant is correct. And this is why people don't take any media person seriously.
@fredfredburger8764
@fredfredburger8764 2 года назад
0:25He thought that was so funny he had to be the only one laughing 😂
@theiggod6921
@theiggod6921 2 года назад
People saying KD has a point... WHERE??? He didn't elaborate. At least Stephen A. makes an attempt to explain his point. People like KD just say blanket statements with no explanation. People like KD will interject their opinion, when no one is talking about them, and then play victim. They do the same thing Stephen A. does except it's his job. KD just doesn't want criticism.
@wilberthokrianto6736
@wilberthokrianto6736 2 года назад
Totally disagree with u, Stephen a can make any point in anything he said bcs he is a debater. He can use any data and convince people. While KD is pure looking from players POV, which I agree. Why do they keep on saying regret kd and kyrie bullshit. So bcs they could go to final we have to stay there even if we are not content? Let players decide for themselves and respect their decision
@newrecruit100
@newrecruit100 2 года назад
He doesn’t need to elaborate, especially if you’ve followed his opinion on this before. He’s always said that this constant comparing of players, constant tearing one person down to uplift somebody. He don’t FW the sports media. These are professional athletes who have coaches and teammates that criticise them and hold them accountable. They just don’t value criticism from people who really don’t fully understand what they’re doing.
@theiggod6921
@theiggod6921 2 года назад
@@newrecruit100 He shouldn't fck wit them. When you are constantly being criticized you should be mad. But that's not a negative for the viewers. Sports media is for the fans not the athletes. Because the fans are the ones tuning in everyday.
@newrecruit100
@newrecruit100 2 года назад
@@theiggod6921 When the players are the subject, they are inherently part of it. Viewers like debate television because it just a formal presentation of what goes on in barbershops or in group chats every single day. That’s it. That’s the appeal. As far as substance goes, it brings very little. You gotta understand there are way more casual fans than there are nuanced and knowledgeable ones. So what these guys say and with the volume their say it sadly has influence.
@theiggod6921
@theiggod6921 2 года назад
@@newrecruit100 You're 100% right. I just don't think the influence has went as far as to RUIN sports, which is what KD said. What we see in sports is happening everywhere. Music, entertainment, politics. I've never seen so many people discuss politics in my life. Same with music. People looking at sales instead of whether or not the music is actually good. Should there be balance? Yes. It you be great of someone had a show where they broke down the game, like Game 1 of the Finals tonight, without bashing the players. But you're right, casual fans are in abundance. Real fans aren't going to alter their opinion because of some silly take from Skip or Stephen A.
@jb5470
@jb5470 2 года назад
KD is right 1000% simple is that.
@takedownTony6
@takedownTony6 2 года назад
Maybe if he stopped watching first take all the time and focused he wouldn’t have gotten 🧹
@ibnfaqir9223
@ibnfaqir9223 2 года назад
But remember, they are getting multimillions to be able to deal with this. If you don't want this then go work at the post office.
@napmcdan3437
@napmcdan3437 2 года назад
Intense defense and hand checking led to many of the bad shooting games of the past. Many games were played where the _winning_ team barely broke 80 points. Its a different game today. Points are at a premium.
@CC-oi9mc
@CC-oi9mc 2 года назад
He’s right, they degrade the game by acting like every player and team is trash except their personal favorite. Jokic gets back to back MVPs with historically amazing seasons and you have clown Nick wright making fun of him every day on TV like he’s nothing , skip calling every player belittling little nicknames, so basically every player except the finals MVP is trash and no accomplishment besides that even matters? It destroys the legacy and dignity of the league
@theiggod6921
@theiggod6921 2 года назад
It doesn't destroy anything... STAAAWP ITTTT! If anything it makes them look silly. We all know not to take anything Skip says serious when it comes to LeBron James. Or Rob Parker wit Tom Brady.
@CC-oi9mc
@CC-oi9mc 2 года назад
@@theiggod6921 if the media that covers the game doesn’t respect the game it absolutely has an impact on how the casual fans and masses view it - just look at what a clown show Twitter is these days
@theiggod6921
@theiggod6921 2 года назад
@@CC-oi9mc Respect??? Are you talking about having enough Respect that we allow it to occupy our time? That We give athletes attention that they capitalize off of? That they are making more money now, at scale, then they ever have? Yeah, we surely don't Respect them that much.
@CC-oi9mc
@CC-oi9mc 2 года назад
@@theiggod6921 ok weirdo
@nikohunt5187
@nikohunt5187 2 года назад
He’s right especially skip no logic and bias perfect example Rodgers lied about the covid test smith doesn’t go off but he’s all over Kyrie
@kungfufemafam9216
@kungfufemafam9216 2 года назад
No he did not. In the court of law he wouldn't lose. He said he was vaccinated. Doesn't matter if he k own what they meant. According to their words, where did he lie? A worthless sheep test and you bringing up that jargon.
@fuckyourfeelings3360
@fuckyourfeelings3360 2 года назад
Rodgers didn't lie idiot. Rodgers said he was immunized . When you catch COVID your body builds immunity. He didn't say yes or no. Because clearly if he came out and said he wasn't gonna get it then the media would have blasted him.
@thenflisnothingwithouttomb8939
@thenflisnothingwithouttomb8939 2 года назад
I used to love the George Michael Sports Machine late night Sunday nights. It used to give you firepower to talk about sports with your friends Monday Morning at school in the 80's and 90's.
@Curteezy
@Curteezy 2 года назад
The media increases sports ratings which puts more money in the players' pockets
@DreyStylez
@DreyStylez 2 года назад
Y'all a little bias on this one. I'm a fan of both and I can understand what KD means. STEPHEN A talks about anything KYRIE says because of ratings, It's almost bullying. Same with Russ & Shannon.
@chilltrav9273
@chilltrav9273 2 года назад
I like that KD be going at everybody! Thats like streetball! The players take it to other players and the people watching.
@dylanallen7720
@dylanallen7720 2 года назад
He’s also just sensitive af.
@chilltrav9273
@chilltrav9273 2 года назад
@@dylanallen7720 How? Because he speaks up and has an opinion about non players speaking on him? If you've ever played sports, going back and forth is part of the game! He supposed to just play and be quiet?
@dylanallen7720
@dylanallen7720 2 года назад
@@chilltrav9273 complaining about people giving you criticism is soft. He’s thin skinned and he looks weaker and weaker every time he complains.
@chilltrav9273
@chilltrav9273 2 года назад
@@dylanallen7720Complaining and stating your opions isnt the same! You just walk thru life and work and never say anything about anything? Or return words if someone says something about you?
@dylanallen7720
@dylanallen7720 2 года назад
@@chilltrav9273 the problem is kd deserves the criticism. He just can’t take it.
@JackOM95
@JackOM95 2 года назад
Chris is right, these debate shows are the only reason I watch the NBA.... I was always a hockey guy until I saw Skip Bayless screaming at Stephan A, I was instantly intrigued and wanted to learn. Media is king, the only reason players have what they all have is because of "media". Respect your game kd, but man up my guy
@jonsnipe5484
@jonsnipe5484 2 года назад
Alot has changed.. I'm 39 I use to read brussard on newspaper in New York on my way to work and rob Parker I use to read him on NY post
@bigtoelilfoot1199
@bigtoelilfoot1199 2 года назад
KD didn't lie
@theiggod6921
@theiggod6921 2 года назад
Didn't elaborate either.
@bigtoelilfoot1199
@bigtoelilfoot1199 2 года назад
@@theiggod6921 those who understand don't need elaboration
@clipsedrag13
@clipsedrag13 2 года назад
nah SAS ruined his own show. nobody wants home cooking and First Things First is awesome. Rob is holding that position cuz HE IS a shock analyst! It hits home for him and not Chris because Chris is a student of the sport.
@christiansoldier77
@christiansoldier77 2 года назад
Clipse D FTF is trash with that bum Nick Wrong and you got the nerve to complain about SAS? SMH
@elp3035
@elp3035 2 года назад
The ratings are actually up since they took Max off.
@christiansoldier77
@christiansoldier77 2 года назад
@@elp3035 I knew Max wasnt a good fit for that show after a few months . They should have Chris Russo on every day but I guess he is too busy
@clipsedrag13
@clipsedrag13 2 года назад
@@christiansoldier77 you're on drugs if you'd rather watch sas than nick, chris, wildes and Jenna..
@christiansoldier77
@christiansoldier77 2 года назад
@@clipsedrag13 SAS with Mad Dog Russo is heaven on earth but when SAS isnt with Russo then it isnt worth watching . FTF would be decent if they got rid of the idiot Nick Wrong . I cant stand that clown SMH
@philliphill8985
@philliphill8985 2 года назад
Amen Rob! I remember when the 76ers were losing in the championship games almost year after year. Dr J was getting all kinds of flack for not winning up until Moses came along!
@newagestudios408
@newagestudios408 2 года назад
The barber shop talks do be wild, people be just talking no facts just opinions 😂😂😂
@waydebrown7759
@waydebrown7759 2 года назад
Durant is correct. Both of yall are reaching and conflating different issues. What does covering the game have to do with opinion-laced debate shows that mix drama with analysis? The NBA was covered adequately before the onset of Cold Pizza, we didn't need guys like Skip or Steven A trying to shape narratives and legacies (or calling players nicknames like Skip used to do).
@stephentripp7154
@stephentripp7154 2 года назад
Used to do!?!? Skip still call ppl names.............ie westBRICK lol
@waydebrown7759
@waydebrown7759 2 года назад
@@stephentripp7154 🤣🤣 yeah that's so true. It's even more hilarious that ge got mad at Jalen Rose for calling him water pistol Pete
@mr.lchannel9760
@mr.lchannel9760 2 года назад
He’s absolutely right. Like kawme brown said…Stephen boule’ smith. People are on to his nonsense.but we all know he’s protected and who’s protecting him
@theiggod6921
@theiggod6921 2 года назад
Seems like people were on to Kwame's nonsense. No one is watching anymore. 🤣🤣
@dashaunharris8449
@dashaunharris8449 2 года назад
KD named all the right sports actors not analysts, I only wonder why Nick Wright wasn't mentioned.
@shayalkobi83
@shayalkobi83 2 года назад
Michael Jordan after Stephen A Smith take:" I took it personally"
@josephwinslow7613
@josephwinslow7613 2 года назад
I guess that you are making Michael Jordan and Stephen A Smith’s money.
@theresidentteacher2438
@theresidentteacher2438 2 года назад
People who just "talk/argue" don't change anything. We listen purely for entertainment. KD once again WASTING TIME in his feelings.
@TheKondinho
@TheKondinho 2 года назад
Disagree. They influence the casuals who don’t know how to think for themselves. Which tends to be the majority.
@babystephena3773
@babystephena3773 2 года назад
KD out there helping this debate show's ratings cause now everyone will tune in tomorrow on these shows to know how SAS, Skip and Shannon reacts.
@stevenschmidt3464
@stevenschmidt3464 2 года назад
Remember when you got to see game recaps on ESPN. Unfortunately now its debate show after debate show 🤦‍♂️
@cyber6sapien
@cyber6sapien 2 года назад
It was David Stern who started marketing individual players above teams. And it started with Magic and Bird in the early 80's. Jordan just came along at the perfect time and his flamboyant style of play took the marketing of the NBA and its players to another level.
@jeffsamuels2539
@jeffsamuels2539 2 года назад
Players don’t need media. It’s like selling dope. “The shyt sells itself” -push
@BigDuace
@BigDuace 2 года назад
If the players dont play ,theres nothing to watch period
@mazzb305
@mazzb305 11 месяцев назад
I remember watching Cold Pizza, PTI, Around The Horn back in the day when I was a kid. Best Damn Sports Show was another good one. I also remember getting the paper and taking the sports section. Good times.
@kehindeadetoro8329
@kehindeadetoro8329 2 года назад
Why is Rob always doing something else when someone else is talking.
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