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Kevin Durant finally breaks his silence, congratulating the Golden State Warriors on their NBA Finals win while commenting on his legacy being in question on social media. The Brooklyn Nets player is taking shots left and right now that the Warriors have succeeded in getting a title without him, and when it was suggested by a Twitter user that his legacy was now dead, KD responded that his legacy died back in 2016. Nick Wright and Chris Broussard share their thought son KD's response, and whether they agree his legacy is in question with the Warriors' win, especially after the Nets experienced an early playoff exit.
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@FirstThingsFirst
@FirstThingsFirst Год назад
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@JohnSmith-oc6gm
@JohnSmith-oc6gm Год назад
Imagine Lebron leaves Miami and gets swept with Kyrie in the first round while Wade wins another ring without him.
@bayodaman
@bayodaman Год назад
Right 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@bayodaman
@bayodaman Год назад
KD will never be in my top 10 idc
@rahulmanne9311
@rahulmanne9311 Год назад
My gosh that sounds terrible. But then again in all time discussions KD and Lebron are not in the same breath
@michelangelooliver2590
@michelangelooliver2590 Год назад
That’s CRAZY
@2019_NBA_CHAMPS
@2019_NBA_CHAMPS Год назад
@@bayodaman facts! Great offensive force but results matter. His time in OKC keeps him out of the top 10. Up 3-1 to GSW in a year almost people felt they will win the chip since they have been to the finals before and we’re knocking on the door!
@airharr7632
@airharr7632 Год назад
2:35 Broussard and Nick with synchronized drink. Their outfits were almost on point today too 🤣
@chrono106
@chrono106 Год назад
Lol high levels of rapport between those two
@kingwild3755
@kingwild3755 Год назад
Was lookin for this comment lol
@wavxyshaun8799
@wavxyshaun8799 Год назад
@@kingwild3755 me too
@marifeborja1678
@marifeborja1678 Год назад
I give a 10 for that 😂
@chilldoc9638
@chilldoc9638 Год назад
What?
@silverknight876
@silverknight876 Год назад
We need to stop that “KD took the warriors to new heights” foolishness. That team was one game away from being the most successful team anyone alive has ever seen. He stood on the shoulders of a giant and said ‘look how tall I am now’
@rickyphillips7944
@rickyphillips7944 Год назад
He made them unbeatable. They can clearly win without him but with him no team in nba history could beat them…
@CamLovesJesus
@CamLovesJesus Год назад
He did they became unstoppable.. without him they probably wasn’t getting past Lebron anymore
@smerktyg9888
@smerktyg9888 Год назад
They don’t beat Lebron without him and he doesn’t make the finals without them. Simple.
@shauntaebenton2062
@shauntaebenton2062 Год назад
I could of swore the warriors went seeking KD to overcome LeBron. Yeah Stephs team but KD made them unbeatable…without him they don’t win 2…so give KD credit
@dontmindme4197
@dontmindme4197 Год назад
Lmao stop
@victorsullivan9107
@victorsullivan9107 Год назад
Warriors with KD = Warriors in 5 Warriors without KD = Warriors in 6
@thelonewolf7443
@thelonewolf7443 Год назад
KD without Warriors = Nets go 0-4
@richardclark1127
@richardclark1127 Год назад
2019 Warriors with KD = champs Warriors without KD = Raptors in 6 2020 Warriors without KD = missed playoffs (granted Steph was injured too) 2021 Warriors without KD = missed playoffs (Steph won scoring title) So maybe it has more to do with team composition.
@kingsfordoteng7684
@kingsfordoteng7684 Год назад
@@richardclark1127 Cap. and the finals was both just KD and Klay. Warriors were without Steph or Klay, or Dray from 2020 and 2021..If you still insist, Warriors with KD= Championship(2). Warriors without= championship(2)- He is not an X-factor.
@light-rd7vq
@light-rd7vq Год назад
Basketball is a team game so of course every team member matters and team composition matters but you conveniently ommitted the fact that klay was missing in 2019, 2020, 2021. In 2019 he didnt miss all the games but both KD and Klay was injured some of the finals games
@richardclark1127
@richardclark1127 Год назад
@@kingsfordoteng7684 How does Steph win the scoring title in the 20/21 season but not have Steph? Klay is a fair argument, but my point was that it takes team composition. Steph missed the playoffs, Lebron has missed the playoffs, KD may as well have missed the playoffs this year. Teams around these players dont get enough credit
@trevorbarto9454
@trevorbarto9454 Год назад
The synchronized coffee sip @2:30 between Bru and Nick is too good 👌🏻
@PianoandCoffee
@PianoandCoffee Год назад
Did any one else see how Nick and Chris each raised his cup in total sync during minute 2:30? NICE!!!😃
@jamesmcluvlee
@jamesmcluvlee Год назад
Lol habit
@curtiscj3087
@curtiscj3087 Год назад
Drinking the cool aid
@Sandman1027
@Sandman1027 Год назад
Couldn’t unsee it after your comment lol
@jada8047
@jada8047 Год назад
Nick an Chris got gonzo n👃ses
@coachwill9584
@coachwill9584 Год назад
They have cue cards and producers to tell them to play on their laptops like they do on First Take and when to drink and write down “notes” so they won’t look boring and still on television lol ppl like to see ppl moving on tv you can’t just sit there lol you gotta do something lol
@Mezukage27
@Mezukage27 Год назад
it validates Steph's legacy. it puts him above KD. Like when Kobe won 2 without Shaq. Shaq won only 1 without Kobe. Steph changed the game. "you cant talk about KD without bringing up Steph. but you could talk about Steph without bringing up KD" he won 2 without KD. KD has won 0 without Steph
@MeBihhhh
@MeBihhhh Год назад
Curry has always been above kd, he joined curry’s team to win chips. Also kobe has the greatest coach ever for almost his whole career, that invalidate kobe being above shaq kiddo
@Mezukage27
@Mezukage27 Год назад
@@MeBihhhh by that logic, it invalidates MJ since we're glorifying coaches in a player debate conversation
@MeBihhhh
@MeBihhhh Год назад
@@Mezukage27 you can use it as a knock against MJ but Phil Jack didn’t go to MJ as the greatest coach ever…he was already in that discussion when he got to shaq and kobe which is where the difference is
@francostrong202
@francostrong202 Год назад
@@MeBihhhh yea. I agree with your Kobe take. Magic Johnson had a hall of fame coach in Pat Riley. Riley went on to win without Magic. That invalidates Magic's career. Shaq's legacy is invalidated because he only won with Phil Jackson and Pat Riley 2 of the top 5 greatest coaches of all time...🥴🥴🥴
@MeBihhhh
@MeBihhhh Год назад
@@francostrong202 nah you can win with good coaches, it’s just suspect when it’s the greatest coach ever(why Brady had to win without Bill) also Kareem being the greatest player to ever play invalidates magic yungin
@haiti_microshading1774
@haiti_microshading1774 Год назад
Nick got that take on point 😂🤣
@dave1123
@dave1123 Год назад
Cementing your legacy as an all time great involves more than just skill and talent.. There are a lot of skillful and talented players in the league. Being an all time great involves winning, team culture and how you impacted the game.. If we are ranking all time skilled players, we can rank Durant at the top 5 debatable... But this is all time great... He needs to prove more than just skills.. Leadership and impact on the game must be shown
@milo6011
@milo6011 Год назад
I 100% agree with yo point but I disagree with KD being top 5 skilled ever offensively I’d say yes I’d say he’s the best natural scorer ever but in totality defense matters and he’s not even close to Akeem Lebron jordan Kobe Wilt Kareem These dudes were just as good and some better than KD on offensive and miles ahead on defense I believe that puts them head and shoulders above KD from a skill perspective
@hawks19_65
@hawks19_65 7 месяцев назад
i’m sorry but u can discredit kds rings but u can’t discount them bc they’re in the record books and u can’t change the record books unfortunately so that makes kd an all time great
@otisls
@otisls 8 месяцев назад
The counterintuitive, yet brilliant decision, by Curry to accept KD, sets Curry above and beyond other superstars, who, historically, would not sublimate their egos and accept a better player {arguably} on their team in pursuit of NBA Championships 🏆🏆🏆🏆
@LT-xb5su
@LT-xb5su Год назад
This didn’t give us new info, just confirmed what we already knew. The warriors were literally a 73 win team, who won a ring the year before, and were 4 points from going back to back. Of course if you add any all star caliber player to a team already that good it’s going to become extremely overpowered. I think if you swap KD out with Bradley Beal or Paul George, history remains exactly the same. But one thing worth mentioning is the warriors those 2-3 years with KD are in my opinion the best team of all time. I don’t think any team in NBA history even wins more than 2 games against the 2017 Warriors, and even though they would win titles still, I don’t think the remain the best team ever if you just replace KD with any all star
@Spacetech3000
@Spacetech3000 Год назад
Agree for the most part but durant was the lebron kryptonite, cause his chase downs and everything dont matter KD offensively too good, put beal or PG3 in place its dtill a boost but the cavs could take that type of team to 6 probably they still probably win the chips but it may actually be possible for the cavs to win that, win durant there was no shot
@dumoneyy2354
@dumoneyy2354 Год назад
Facts
@youraverage90sguys7
@youraverage90sguys7 Год назад
@@Spacetech3000 mah mate, gsw was just so overwhelming with talent, kd was never comaprable to lebron to be any kind of krypotnite, literally any iyher all star wouldve ended in same result. infact without any additions they still go to finals 3 years in a row and win at least 2 (18 if kyrie still leaves and 19 if nobody gets hurt, if kd alone got hurt but klay was still good, raptors not winnig, kd was just cherry (cuz hes a fruit) on top, nothing more
@Robert-sx9mm
@Robert-sx9mm Год назад
I agree with everything but your last point...
@Chessbox09
@Chessbox09 Год назад
GSW didn’t need KD. They just need a wing scorer to take pressure of Steph in the Finals, and KD is the best in the business at that. KD was just a mercenary.
@fatigh6711
@fatigh6711 Год назад
Nah, he acts like everybody wasn’t praising him and slandering Steph all these years
@judyclarkson5887
@judyclarkson5887 Год назад
That's what ppl don't get. The audacity in saying that Steph/Warriors needed KD without ever mentioning how he needed them more to get his first rings, that's why it's only right if this stuff gets back to bite Kd's legacy. Well until he proves us wrong just like Steph did.
@GaryTurbo
@GaryTurbo Год назад
Durant only has himself for screwing up his legacy, he chose an easy ring instead of proving his worth
@semionjohnson1351
@semionjohnson1351 Год назад
Y'all weird KD made his decision he not living his life to please people like you nor is he living his life to do things the way you want him to
@cygriffin83
@cygriffin83 Год назад
Just conveniently leave out the fact GS recruited him… now that he’s not taking the “east route” people like u wanna crucify him 🤣🤣🤣. KD clearly don’t give af regardless what people like u think
@GaryTurbo
@GaryTurbo Год назад
I don't want him to please me, I'm happy that hes failing. It was an easy route. Durant only won a ring with a 75-win team that beat him before only to leave and to get swept in the first-round while Warriors getting a second ring without him years later shows Warriors don't need Durant but the other way around
@cygriffin83
@cygriffin83 Год назад
@@GaryTurbo you and these media people are delusional. 🤣🤣🤣 Just conveniently narrate stories to make ur selves feel good
@jonathanfulton4243
@jonathanfulton4243 Год назад
@@semionjohnson1351 You say that but he constantly argues with people online about his legacy. Doesn’t sound like someone who doesn’t care about pleasing others.
@ThereIsNoTrueLove
@ThereIsNoTrueLove Год назад
if i was KD, i would off my phone for a few weeks 🤣🤣🤣
@SSJRome
@SSJRome Год назад
KD will never know peace for the rest of his career lol smh sad but this is the bed he made now he has to lay in it.
@ernestlester9262
@ernestlester9262 Год назад
Lol,just like lebron huh!!!
@youraverage90sguys7
@youraverage90sguys7 Год назад
@@ernestlester9262 nothing alike 🤡🤡🤡
@theyoungKapitalist
@theyoungKapitalist Год назад
@@ernestlester9262 nah if dwade and bosh would've won without him the season he left yes.
@eliasacheampong5830
@eliasacheampong5830 Год назад
@@theyoungKapitalist dwade won before bron lool. You can’t pick and choose narratives
@theyoungKapitalist
@theyoungKapitalist Год назад
@@eliasacheampong5830 what are you talking about? I was giving him a scenario of a star leaving a super team and the team ends up winning wins without that star.
@andrewfranta6349
@andrewfranta6349 Год назад
KD chose Kyrie. It's not 100% on him, but when superstars construct teams, they're not quite innocent bystanders when things go wrong
@Nostalgia9478
@Nostalgia9478 Год назад
Also, KD ran Harden out of town by apologizing for Kyrie
@youtubehatestruthtellers8065
Dude every other time GMs construct teams and they aren't successful everytime. Yea but...
@Nostalgia9478
@Nostalgia9478 Год назад
@@youtubehatestruthtellers8065 ^KD Burner account detected
@hart63
@hart63 Год назад
Last year was an erratic year because of covid and Kyrie not being allowed to play in Brooklyn home games. Next year, an erratic year because we did not know then Simmons will be so stuck. Maybe next year is a fantastic year because Ben Simmons is not stuck. Either way it is not terrible to pay to watch KD and Kyrie go to work
@unknownx7252
@unknownx7252 Год назад
@@hart63 I don't know if I can trust in the availability of Kyrie, it's either injury or some circumstance that makes him unavailable.
@phantasmex
@phantasmex Год назад
2:30 The synchronized sips 😂
@tyanewilson217
@tyanewilson217 Год назад
Y’all said curry need to win one without kd right because when he won in 2015 it’s because people got injured 🤕 so now I think kd should win one without steph curry and klay Thompson because with those guys on the floor Durant have alot of spacing
@judyclarkson5887
@judyclarkson5887 Год назад
It's only fair indeed
@jffdxn02
@jffdxn02 Год назад
Like you said, 2015 was without Durant. 2016 he lost to a very good defensive team lead by a mt Rushmore player ( no shame in that). The shame was more on KD for that corny move. I can see if your team got swept by GS or lost 4-1. The series went to 7 games. That means it was evenly matched teams. Same for the GS Cleveland matchup. Was weak for both parties, but KD look the weakest.
@dreadxplayzs7849
@dreadxplayzs7849 Год назад
Warriors beat a team not even close to how good the 2016 Cleveland,try again loser.
@mike.cdn7212
@mike.cdn7212 Год назад
Kyrie has had TWO horrendous playoff series in his career. His last year in Boston v Milwaukee and this year in Brooklyn v his former team the Celtics. We've been discussing KD legacy but not Kyrie's. Definitely a embarrassing moment for both.
@halffacedsinger
@halffacedsinger Год назад
There are no expectations of Kyrie to be the Batman on a championship team
@jamesmcluvlee
@jamesmcluvlee Год назад
The difference is that kyrie doesn’t care about his BASKETBALL legacy. KD does
@pauljulian3937
@pauljulian3937 Год назад
Kyrie ???? He is irrelevant
@eddward758
@eddward758 Год назад
bro nobody care about Kyrie legacy
@thebarksman
@thebarksman Год назад
If kyrie really cared about his legacy, he would be vaccinated by now. Goes to show he really didn't care.
@Torrey_J_Gaming
@Torrey_J_Gaming Год назад
Draymond literally told KD that they didn’t need him during that argument on the bench and it was true. I didn’t care that KD left OKC. KD could have gone anywhere else. But he joined the team with the greatest regular season record ever. The same team that eliminated you in the playoffs. That will ALWAYS be weak in my opinion.
@MarkLeel
@MarkLeel Год назад
Agreed. If he’d gone to the Spurs and he’d have just been as likely to win as with the Warriors.
@calum6600
@calum6600 Год назад
Wyldes' takes are brutal
@robertromero8452
@robertromero8452 Год назад
If we’re going to pull the whole “basketball is a team sport” we need to measure players for their impact on the team. If that’s the case, Curry > Durant and it’s not debatable.
@judyclarkson5887
@judyclarkson5887 Год назад
It's even evident in stats. A RU-vid account named JimmHighroller (or whatever it was) just made a video about it and Curry's impact upon his team's wins when he plays vs doesn't is even higher than Lebron and Jordan. Anyone can check that video if they want.
@justincrawley4256
@justincrawley4256 Год назад
@@judyclarkson5887 if you're going to quote an RU-vid video it would probably come off more credible if you actually knew the name of the creator 😂
@theinktician
@theinktician Год назад
@@judyclarkson5887 JxmmyHighroller
@pdfbanana
@pdfbanana Год назад
2:46 The tweet is NOT comparing KD to Lennon, it's comparing him to Stuart Sutcliffe AKA the guy you've never heard about
@ricbradley5323
@ricbradley5323 Год назад
Wiggins with the huge W, taking his vaccine and getting a ring.
@conchobar
@conchobar Год назад
Vaccines, team chemistry, or consistent lineups had nothing to do with the Nets being swept by the C's. Nets weren't just outplayed, they never made adjustments. The team that fails to adjust always loses.
@ianwilson4483
@ianwilson4483 Год назад
@@conchobar The point is, it’s a team sport.
@TheManofThings777
@TheManofThings777 Год назад
I really don't get what he's talking about cause up until the moment the Warriors beat the Celtics, people ALWAYS said that KD carried Steph and the Warriors in those two championship wins they got together. It's only now that the Warriors have won before KD, with KD, and after KD that the narrative is changing.
@jandt3463
@jandt3463 27 дней назад
Thats how it goes. The best success of KDs career is cuz of Golden State.......
@izzy1000ful
@izzy1000ful Год назад
What they are missing is the warriors needed something in return for Harrison Barns. But they didn’t need KD could of got it done with a handle full of other stars or superstars. So yes he took the easy way out 1000%. KD maybe one of the most talent people to ever play but his resume and his overall accomplishment don’t show it. Gianna’s has done in my opinion something that KD hasn’t.
@drk.i.a.2969
@drk.i.a.2969 Год назад
What you dint understand championships teams win championships not individual players (we elevate it to one guy, that's a fallacy) mike, couldnt do it, steph, chamberlin, bill russell..the list goes on. Shaq call it the others. Th as ts the real truth but WE like to point to one player.
@bobbyseasons451
@bobbyseasons451 Год назад
As did Dirk. And Charles did what KD couldn't. Accept The No Ring life. KD failed himself there 😭😭
@Jodacon75
@Jodacon75 Год назад
You can’t deny KDs skills and being one of the most talented players ever to live, unfortunately he makes bad decisions
@jsmithepa
@jsmithepa Год назад
And yet this "indefensible" player was smoothed to dead by the Celtics in this last series.
@curtiscj3087
@curtiscj3087 Год назад
What bad decision ?
@dreadxplayzs7849
@dreadxplayzs7849 Год назад
@@curtiscj3087 Durant makes more then that goofies entire ancestry and he has the nerve to say Durant makes bad decisions?Imagine that 🤦‍♂️
@HollyG95
@HollyG95 Год назад
Kd skills? He can shoot. That’s it. That’s skill? What else is he “great” in?
@drk.i.a.2969
@drk.i.a.2969 Год назад
@Cedrick Carson and which player isn't?
@optimisticjuann
@optimisticjuann 9 месяцев назад
Nick and Bru simultaneously took a sip of their cup ain’t nobody bringing that up 😂😂
@reneesmith983
@reneesmith983 Год назад
Steph is in the Top 10, he singlehandedly changed how the game is played. Well along with Rule changes. Bottom line, you cannot tell the story of basketball without including him.
@dach1156
@dach1156 Год назад
That’s true but does not necessarily make him top 10
@malcolmwayne8457
@malcolmwayne8457 Год назад
@@dach1156 ✔💯
@kobeisthegoat332
@kobeisthegoat332 Год назад
You can because Ray Allen ad Reggie Miller exist
@reneesmith983
@reneesmith983 Год назад
@@kobeisthegoat332 they were great but still weren't so efficient from 3 that they changed how the game is played. Were guys pulling up on the clear break to shoot 3s before Steph. Steph changed the game all the way down to the youth level.
@95Dreamshake
@95Dreamshake Год назад
Asterix gets me every time 😂
@hyperfixer
@hyperfixer Год назад
Almost better than when Stephen A saying “Rob Pelinker” 😂😂
@QMN8125
@QMN8125 Год назад
Imagine Jordan left the Bulls for the Wizards right and a Scottie led Bulls win a championship.
@MR.__G
@MR.__G Год назад
Imagine if this was a dumb comment. Oh…. Wait, you don’t have to because it is
@bwp2bruce
@bwp2bruce Год назад
If KD so much better than Curry, then why did Curry have his best finals and win FMVP against the same team that shutdown and swept KD? And why hasn't KD won a chip without Steph while Steph has two rings without KD? And how come the only rings KD got is while playing alongside Steph?
@erikkdane8485
@erikkdane8485 Год назад
It has hurt and tarnished Durant's legacy.
@NickWestcoast
@NickWestcoast Год назад
I believe this title truly validates Steph and GS. The first title that they’ve gotten with no asterisk. No injury excuses and no super team excuses. Just a great team that beat another great team.
@phil7121
@phil7121 Год назад
You know your haters are reaching when their best argument is "well their best player isn't top 10 all time just the greatest shooter of all time" Honestly feel sorry for them
@Lee-rt6tx
@Lee-rt6tx Год назад
“BuT TAtUm hAd a shOulder INjuRy”
@gregoryevans8179
@gregoryevans8179 Год назад
Why would any of their titles have asterisks? They won them legit. Not their fault if their opponent was hurt or they had a player that put them over the top. If you use that logic there would be whole lotta titles that have asterisks.
@VivisDoomsday
@VivisDoomsday Год назад
@@gregoryevans8179 Yeah I don't like using the term asterisk in this situation but the previous GS titles felt less earned than this current one. It's tough because you can't blame the warriors for their luck, that's out of their control of course. I don't think it should count against Curry and his legacy- but it would have been MORE special if the Warriors earned their title like this years. Something about the Cavs missing their 2nd and 3rd best players the entire series in 2015 deprived that title of it's maximum glory- because the next year those same 2 teams, but with healthy players this time went the Cavs way so it does make you wonder. Then they added KD on top of how close those 2 teams were already in 2016 prior to him joining. KD wins FMVP in both 2017 and 2018. This years title though? There's really no narrative that can deprive the titles maximum glory this year. Steph and the Warriors aren't the only players/teams that have gotten lucky on their way to a title, and that's something people need to realize when they try to deny the warriors/steph of their due credit. All time great team, all time great player in steph, glad he finally got his FMVP.
@Lexyboogie
@Lexyboogie Год назад
Steph and GS were validated before KD even got there as far as I’m concerned. People don’t understand how miraculous Bron and Kyrie were in 2016. Any other team in the East would have gone down in 5 to that Warriors squad at the very most.
@BornCrowned_
@BornCrowned_ Год назад
"It looks like they didnt need you"....."I know they needed him" 😂😂
@joeclaridy
@joeclaridy Год назад
Double talk at its best
@dezz8598
@dezz8598 Год назад
He said it LOOKS like it, that doesn’t mean that’s the case. Bud either way, GSW clearly didn’t need him.
@BornCrowned_
@BornCrowned_ Год назад
@@dezz8598 Yall determine that because they beat Lebron, Kyrie and Kevin Love without KD or they beat Tatum and Brown without KD because those aren't even comparable 😂😂
@whatsyourpoint1facts942
@whatsyourpoint1facts942 Год назад
@@BornCrowned_ but Tatum and brown swept the sht out of kd kyrie and this chip right proved we didn't need kd you mfs will try to figure out something else to discredit the warriors what if they repeat what are you Bozo's going to say then 🤣🤣🙏🙏
@whatsyourpoint1facts942
@whatsyourpoint1facts942 Год назад
@@BornCrowned_ and they had the defensive player of the year and got smoked until kd wins another ring this is what the media is continue to talk about his B's legacy 🙏🙏
@coledraper5694
@coledraper5694 Год назад
Nick and Brou with the simultaneous coffee sip at 2:30 🤣
@seetoronto-walkanddrone6653
Great video, have a wonderful day everyone.✌
@tblackmusic7460
@tblackmusic7460 Год назад
Nick and Broussard were on point!!!
@dsstewbaby9
@dsstewbaby9 Год назад
Nick is Spot on 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@jacksonnowak7497
@jacksonnowak7497 Год назад
The Guy who left the Beatles was Pete Best...........
@Morya58
@Morya58 Год назад
They needed KD to get past those and guarantee victory. The fact that they won now would only really say they didn't need KD if there was a team in the east as good or better than the 2016 or 2017 cavs
@JDNoble
@JDNoble Год назад
Exactly!
@vulcanraven9701
@vulcanraven9701 9 месяцев назад
Well they did have a good enough team to beat the 2016 cavs. All the warriors had to do was not choke last 3 games Specifically, the Splash brothers
@SamoaVsEverybody814
@SamoaVsEverybody814 Год назад
1. Lebron 2. Steph 3. Kawhi 4. KD
@robertlajara9584
@robertlajara9584 Год назад
1.LeBron 2.Steph 3.Giannis 4.Kawhi 5. KD
@youraverage90sguys7
@youraverage90sguys7 Год назад
@@robertlajara9584 way more accurate
@SamoaVsEverybody814
@SamoaVsEverybody814 Год назад
@@robertlajara9584 Yea I was talking more 2010s but you right bout Giannis
@aduad
@aduad Год назад
They didn't need KD, they just needed another all star and some depth which is exactly what they have with Wiggs, Porter, Poole and GP2...you guys really think this team wouldn't have won those two chips KD won?
@marlinesutherland5358
@marlinesutherland5358 Год назад
Wiggins and GP2 is not beating a healthy Lebron Team that’s why Draymond went crying in the parking lot. Yeah they didn’t need KD to beat Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown, they needed him to beat Prime Bron and a Healthy Kyrie...That’s a HUGE Difference.
@jamaalhorton2343
@jamaalhorton2343 Год назад
They needed KD
@2402devin
@2402devin Год назад
Yes Kd put GS over the top, yes KD led the way for them to win those chips with Steph klay & Dray, Yes he was great in those finals..but at the end of the day, KD JOINED them they didn’t need him, he wasn’t going to win anything if he didn’t go to GS.. & GS was gonna acquire another star anyways if it wasn’t KD
@deonterector7424
@deonterector7424 Год назад
He had other options...I believe KD and Kawhi on the spurs would at least win 1-2 titles.
@2402devin
@2402devin Год назад
@@deonterector7424 pop KD could’ve Gone to the Celtics he choose a front runner team. Then tried to go to to Brooklyn and do it the “hard” way when he should’ve done that in the first place. Smh.
@Polo22546
@Polo22546 Год назад
The simultaneous sip by Nick and Chris was weird.
@seanscott1043
@seanscott1043 Год назад
There is an asterisk for KD with his ring but no asterisk for Steph or Klay when they won the same ring.
@khaliyl21
@khaliyl21 Год назад
It’s no asterisk for them because they proved they can win without KD so anything else is just gravy. KD is the one with something to prove!
@bjrowland25
@bjrowland25 Год назад
@@khaliyl21 this is it. His rings still count obviously, just looked at a little different until he wins without the warriors.
@justingabriel1765
@justingabriel1765 Год назад
Well the Steph top 10 all time stuff is okay because well… frankly? Stephs been better then KD through their careers, KD is taller, cool, but Steph has done more then KD has, he’s impacted basketball more then he has, he’s a better leader, he’s a more loved player, Steph has just had the better career, so it’s easy to say right now at this moment yeah we’re looking at Steph top 10 all time instead of KD
@mhaiyaaj
@mhaiyaaj Год назад
Did you see what Jason Tatum did to Durant? He made Durant look pedestrian in their series. The warriors turned Jason Tatum into a turn over machine. The warriors don’t need KD as much as he needed them. Durant coming over to the warriors was an overkill. Any NBA player who is a little better than Harrison Barnes would have done Durant’s job. Without the warriors, Durant would have 0 championship.
@BrianSmith1993
@BrianSmith1993 Год назад
KD is still OVERALL a better player and will be a HOF regardless of them rings.
@ryanjong9971
@ryanjong9971 Год назад
Last year?
@justincrawley4256
@justincrawley4256 Год назад
Without Durant the warriors would have 2 less and lebron would have 2 more
@sandworld1432
@sandworld1432 Год назад
@@justincrawley4256 that is a flawed statement. Without KD, they would have recruited another all star caliber player like Andrew Wiggins/ Beal/ Wall/ Butler……
@sandworld1432
@sandworld1432 Год назад
@@BrianSmith1993 NBA HOF’s bar is very low……
@chrisMcG17
@chrisMcG17 Год назад
KD playing against the raptors when he knew he was going with kyrie. That was a mistake. Gave up a year with the injury
@Licensed1
@Licensed1 Год назад
Honestly Durant should join the Celtics as a SF and they can move Brown to SG, grab a couple bench players with finals experience and go after the Warriors and win it.
@danielshirley3267
@danielshirley3267 Год назад
This may get a lot of hate but nobody denies KD is excellent, all-time great. But as it stands right now, KD is the greatest 2/co-star of all time. KD has been very good as the guy, but he’s never won a title as the guy.
@smokesmitty1
@smokesmitty1 Год назад
he took okc to the finals people at age 24
@smokesmitty1
@smokesmitty1 Год назад
against a juggernaut miami heat
@TheSwagIsBack
@TheSwagIsBack Год назад
@@smokesmitty1 age 23 and u right.
@DontQuitLife
@DontQuitLife Год назад
King KD period 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
@youraverage90sguys7
@youraverage90sguys7 Год назад
🤡🤡🤡
@jeanrosales7896
@jeanrosales7896 Год назад
Around 4:30 I saw Chris face because that’s not a good comparison and I couldn’t wait for what’s next
@tblackmusic7460
@tblackmusic7460 Год назад
Wildes usually has some brilliant takes, but the comparison he used this time was terrible.
@dreadxplayzs7849
@dreadxplayzs7849 Год назад
No your mothers cat is terrible
@wendellsloan8200
@wendellsloan8200 Год назад
Nick said a thought exercise, another word for feedback
@thebarksman
@thebarksman Год назад
This is the first time i actually agreed with nick's points.
@assadbarakzai5921
@assadbarakzai5921 Год назад
Media talks puts him down when he join gs but when left they saying he shouldn't have left. Like Steve a and all thosenppl who say that are fakes
@dsstewbaby9
@dsstewbaby9 Год назад
Chris spot On 👈🏾
@quezzyb617
@quezzyb617 Год назад
2:30 synchronized tea sip
@NationalSportsEntertainmentNSE
@NationalSportsEntertainmentNSE 11 месяцев назад
Can’t people admit the Warriors did not need him to win most of the championships but definitely don’t win as many as they did without him? Even if it was just one?
@cryptomillie
@cryptomillie Год назад
Good point on the randy moss comparison !!
@khaliyl21
@khaliyl21 Год назад
Awful point
@richardturner1063
@richardturner1063 8 месяцев назад
Kevin “If you can’t beat them join them” Durant Legacy The 2014 MVP, 2015 MVP, 2016 unanimous MVP joined together on a 73 win team (with a DPOY and FMVP) to stop the GOAT, that beast from the east 🤫
@bjrowland25
@bjrowland25 Месяц назад
That beast from the East also joined the 3rd greatest sg of all time and a HOF PF to win his first rings, never forget!
@DonaldDuck-qz4do
@DonaldDuck-qz4do Год назад
Talk about the Celtics and the warriors and Steph legacy
@otisls
@otisls 8 месяцев назад
TOP 15 positionally {G, SG, SF, PF, C}: -1st team: Magic, MJ, Dr. J, Duncan, Kareem -2nd team: , Kobe, Bird, , SHAQ -3rd team: Isaiah, Wade, , Garnett, Olajuwon WADR to the progenitors {Russell, Wilt, Oscar, Elgin, et.al.}
@future_teknokrat7585
@future_teknokrat7585 Год назад
Yo KD, I agree 100 percent
@adriandevon710
@adriandevon710 Год назад
kd overrated, the warriors beat a team in the finals that swept him in first the round
@louismwobobia5773
@louismwobobia5773 Год назад
Nick x Chris synchronised coffee sip 02:29
@jamenthomas9837
@jamenthomas9837 Год назад
Todays fits all around lookin good
@masterbuten5953
@masterbuten5953 Год назад
1st time i really agreed with nick here.
@wedieyobeyob2177
@wedieyobeyob2177 Год назад
KD why is he you talk about him?!🏀🔑 Net didn't win yet ?Why is he bleam for Help Golden state !?🏀🔑
@ITzTricky_x
@ITzTricky_x Год назад
KD is used best as a role player , a extremely high scoring role player in a team that has a solid play style already intact.
@paulbogle6760
@paulbogle6760 Год назад
Whoever won a championship by themselves?? KD was the man in golden state. Just like when LeBron went to Miami and he was the driver based on his skill set, DWade was there a champion but LeBron was that guy. That was KD was in golden state. Long live the Raptors...when KD went down in 2019 what happened to the warriors??? Klay was there, Draymond was there and Mr Curry was there
@jazzyfour
@jazzyfour Год назад
Nick said KD sitting down smoking, playing video games and getting a Twitter alert. Lol
@ruelpile
@ruelpile Год назад
Somebody tell Wiley that football isn’t comparable to basketball.
@Lance_Thorpe_Esq.
@Lance_Thorpe_Esq. Год назад
I love how Brew Admits that it's the National Media LEADING THE DISCUSSION... KD needs to grow up and let people who respect his game love his game and let those who don't (or who lack critically objectivity) criticize him!
@evenebrown7353
@evenebrown7353 Год назад
do kd need to grow up or the media? they have been talking about kd for 3 weeks now even though he hasn't been in playoffs since first round. Boston lost and no one is even saying anything about that you would think gs played brooklyn in the finals. kd was being talked about more than the 2 teams in finals
@dsstewbaby9
@dsstewbaby9 Год назад
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@franklinkoonce4245
@franklinkoonce4245 Год назад
JSU is America's Team
@EZboyrocks
@EZboyrocks Год назад
synchronized sip 2:30
@lopaka526
@lopaka526 Год назад
How is worst case for KD not missing the play-in like LeBron?
@stupidswagsmirks
@stupidswagsmirks Год назад
Any great player would have made GSW unbeatable. It’s such a simple convo
@jdelgado216
@jdelgado216 Год назад
Not any player is KD especially in 2016 when he was in his prime
@stupidswagsmirks
@stupidswagsmirks Год назад
@@MeBihhhh thank you! ppl act like being up 3-1 happening by accident or something lol
@munir9527
@munir9527 Год назад
Starting 5: Curry, Jordan, James, Duncan, Jabbar
@tamacaharris7674
@tamacaharris7674 Год назад
All in their prime, the rest of the league would just have to go fishing, because that would've been unstoppable! 💯
@BAM2gz
@BAM2gz Год назад
That Randy Moss analogy was such a reach lmao
@82weeks94
@82weeks94 Год назад
Only thing KD has done wrong in his NBA career in my eyes is : trying to please others & not pleasing his self .
@riddlachicago
@riddlachicago Год назад
Jenna has been looking good lately👍
@sjorden1980
@sjorden1980 Год назад
Why is Nick Wrong talking about Kyrie not being vaccinated? He played in the playoffs! His vaccination status has nothing to do with why they loss! Stop it with this narrative!🤦🏽‍♂️
@singerlee4446
@singerlee4446 Год назад
Well you could argue that it did. He missed most of the season and hasn't spent much time actually playing with KD, IDC who you are, you need that time to have chemistry. You're not just gonna miss most the season then hop on the court in the playoffs and go all the way, it doesn't work like that.
@WealthbuilderzTV
@WealthbuilderzTV Год назад
Not dead? Sheesh. It’s okay to have buyers remorse though
@mrmillennium2697
@mrmillennium2697 Год назад
Idk a reverse way of looking at it is KD's legacy goes up just by the attention he's getting because of it. Fact is if he would've never went to Golden State we wouldn't even view KD on those standards. He'd be similar to Harden or Westbrook on legacy he gets two titles and much relevancy in the last 6-7 years. He wins in my opinion no matter what Golden State did or does.
@lakersworld2125
@lakersworld2125 Год назад
When you win before him it’s already proven the current team can win so I’m not shocked one bit.
@Putmefirst
@Putmefirst Год назад
Gotta love KD he don’t take none of the talking or critics personal mans be trolling everybody lmao
@heltvolt4403
@heltvolt4403 Год назад
My honest opinion: KD needed the Warriors more than the Warriors needed KD. The proof is this year’s championship. I don’t think the Warriors would’ve won the 2017 finals without KD just like I don’t think he would’ve won a championship if he stayed at OKC. However, we cannot deny one thing: when in Golden State, KD CARRIED that team. He was simply their best player and it was not even close! But still, I think that the Warriors would eventually win another championships even if KD had never joined them. They just wouldn’t be as dominant
@ThesGt
@ThesGt Год назад
He was the best on clutch for sure but that's only because warriors had curry and he attracts the defense freeing guys like kd and klay and the rest
@MeBihhhh
@MeBihhhh Год назад
This isn’t ground breaking news big fella. Literally everyone has thought this since the day of the trade😂
@BigKuna1K
@BigKuna1K Год назад
KD never carried warriors, carrying means he's the only one doing the heavy lifting with little help
@cygriffin83
@cygriffin83 Год назад
Durant left the Warriors 2 seasons ago!!! This is a non topic other than dramatic effect. KD don’t care… this the definition of living rent free in people head!!!!
@BRoy978
@BRoy978 Год назад
Only reason why the moss comparison doesn’t work is because they didn’t win a ring while he was there, & then the next year Tom Brady had torn his acl. Also football is of a team reliant sport, basketball is a team sport as well but you carry you’re team “easier” in basketball than football
@aaronhumphries2100
@aaronhumphries2100 Год назад
Nick is right
@keyes4eva
@keyes4eva Год назад
Wrf just happened. I agreed with everything Nick just said.
@RidahWER
@RidahWER Год назад
Chris speaking facts
@KidLexDC
@KidLexDC Год назад
Stuart Sutcliffe not John Lennon 🤦🏽‍♂️
@Matt-cp9wh
@Matt-cp9wh Год назад
gsw winning without kd is nothing new. kd was only needed to get an all time great team over the line against one of the greatest players of all time.
@stbsole
@stbsole Год назад
Bad analogy Wildes: Moss wanted to stay, Belicheck didn’t want the headache he was starting to become.
@hart63
@hart63 Год назад
Worst case if you would have gone and injured. He was healthy he had a great series against Milwaukee last year showing that he was one of the elite players of the league still he doesn't care what you think or what any fans think
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