Despite what people say about COD's writing, Jonathan Irons was probably one of the more well written and portrayed characters in the post original MW era.
Totally. While all the other antagonists were madmen with twisted ideologies, Irons actually made sense. It's sad that Activision left both AW and Ghosts in cliffhanger.
@@Upamanyu2000 I mean his ideology is fairly twisted, he believes that he and only he has the answers to the worlds problems, which just isn’t true lmao no one has all the answers. Narcissists make awful leaders
@@VMK86x Of course they didn't have it during WWII, but they had something quite similar before it. The league of the nations was such a huge fucking failure that they had to dissolve out of shame when the war started.
Irons: "Are we developing such a weapon? No we are not." Council: *Claps* Irons: "Because we've already developed it." Council: *gasps* What a troll, lmao
I honestly think that Advanced Warfare's campaign is underrated. The setting felt new and different at the time for COD, and the gameplay/sandbox was fun.
@@Geodendronitrian NGL I liked the concept of Infinite Warfare’s campaign; the number of times someone has done the sci-fi concept of “Earth’s colonies declare independence from, then wage total upon Earth” can likely be counted on one hand if not both. It is very much a change from the standard CoD formula of “we go invade another country on earth” or “we fight a terrestrial terrorist group.”
Technically speaking that's not the purpose of the weapon - it's actually more targeted than real life equivalents. It would simply target everyone not on the Atlas Database. This could either mean everyone who isn't cleared by Atlas dies, or any government/military/other personnel who could stand a chance to stop Atlas. So basically, it's a xenophobic bomb, not a racist one (A lot better, I know). Or, best case scenario, a weapon of war with no civilian casualties.
Considering his company basically builds nations in under 5 years and stabilized and secured some of the most unstable regions on earth… you can see his point.
AWs campaign was fucking solid, concept was new and refreshing, guns were neat, [Spacey's] performance was *alarmingly* good, and we got the F to pay respects meme from it. 10/10
@@jamesshepard2672 To be fair, Irons gets killed and Atlas crushed literally a couple of in-game days after this scene so it's still pretty accurate, lol
Despite the cliche story telling, he actually spittin' facts. Not only he explains how the UN works and how it got old by the end of the cold war, but he also procceds to tell them that their proxy wars are useless.
@@ILOVEROGUELINEAGE11 USA destroyed half of the world with their brought democracy to doorsteps of the countries... Please, stop bringing democracy to us
Coming from the U.S. I agree with you, not to mention democracy is such a flawed system and it doesn't help money and corrupt bureaucracy is a driving force behind the modern U.S. "Diplomacy"
@@YorkusPorkus757 Alternative is to stop killing and conquering weaker countries, and let them live in peace, if you find out they have oil, diamonds, strategic geographical sites, or something else, etc, leave them alone, don t make red revolutions and don t pay rebels in that country and then come in that same country to ,,save'' that people. You are destroying dozens of countries, which today hates America. Do you know what will happen to America when someone starts shooting internaly, within borders, and then black people start shooting, and then jewish, and then chatolics, and then nazis, and then those muslims which lives there but knows what America did to their lands, it will be bloodshed, America will burn probably, and that day is just inevitable. Poor people and normal civilians will perish, will suffer because of the elites of America, because of the media which always plants a seeds of hate between people.
I wish it was real and he did pull an AK. But real men don't exist. Only in movies. Only pansies exist now. How do I know? AMERICA has the second amendment and refuses to use it for good. Only for fox new bullshit. Start using it for what is actually written and help the world by ending the current tyranny.
@@PhoenixFires he is one, he has the characteristics of one. And I bet you he’s hired hitmen to kill the victims too, I’ve heard rumours. Because after the news broke out his victims “died”
Man, this game was constantly Embroiled with controversy. From it being confused with infinite warfare to the Kevin spacey situation and all in between. I’m glad in recent years it’s been getting more and more attention because it truly was a great game.
Real life stuff aside you should know better than to side with Spacey in a war themed media. He always plays at best a jerk soldier or at worse an evil manipulative military mastermind.
@@gegethedog Based Irons But in reality he was only wiping out combatants who weren't ATLAS personnel. Had nothing to do with who's white or not. You must not know much about the game's story lol
*Actually he is one of the best antagonist I've seen so far . With practical and knowledge about the world which is unfortunately true even in our world and tried to fix it , but he failed to realise what makes the world , a world*
Yeah and it’s actually sad if you ask me because the UN says they are there to create peace and develop friendly relations, when in all honestly they don’t
@@MrJoelMiller TBH, the only reason the U.N is still around is for symbolic value. Because the idea of the United Nations is, in my opinion, a fundamentally good one as I am an Internationalist and somewhat of a globalist. The issue is the United Nations is very fucking weak and ineffective at what it does because it's put on the back burner, as nationalism rules the day in most nations across the world.
Imagine a phone call between him and U.S. President Frank Underwood 😂😂😂 Frank: "The US Government is by far your biggest customer, good luck paying your mercenaries when your assets have been frozen and you have no income besides from the tinpot dictators. I'm sure you'll find a way to launder their drug money." Irons: "Oh that's cute, because while you've had to wallow in the mud you call Washington, fighting over donations like pigs to slop, I've been revolutionizing warfare faster than Sherman tore through Dixie. You're welcome for the re-election by the way, I could have given California to your wife if I didn't need to scare China into buying my entire stock of cutting-edge nanodrones. You'll know what I mean when your carriers start falling apart at the same time, and your missiles lose all targeting after their boost phase." Frank (4th Wall Break): _Am I seriously dealing with my corporate doppelganger? Do I send him a peach, or a Tomahawk?_ Frank: "You will have no where to run, no where to hide from the full capabilities of the US Arsenal if you're not willing to have peaceful talks with-." Irons: "Peace? I've seen America's war profiteering! Within this last decade I've profited the most from it! I've seen no option of peace from America when its economy demands war, and at best I have another 4 years from you. I could wait you out but I detest waiting; I'm sure you feel the same. I must leave this call now, I have business to attend to." **hangs up** Frank: "Well God, DAMMIT-" **cut to security detail standing outside the door, as behind the door, Frank slams his hands on his desk and breaks the vase he got from [insert country here]**
“So let’s be clear: I am here to solve the world’s problems, and I believe the worlds problems begin with you” is such a hard line. Saying that to some of the most powerful people in the world, knowing they’ve forked power over to you is just… it’s just insane.
Kevin: "are we developing such a weapon?' Everyone: panik Kevin: "no we are not!" Everyone: KALM Kevin: "because we already developed it" everyone: *PANIK*
When his face came closer to the camera it was like watching the House of Cards where he explains everything to us. If he had added a southern accent it would have been a whole new version of Frank Underwood dominating everything and everyone as usual.
Really? His best roles were as the villain. And he ended up being a villain irl. Hiding that he tried to get a teenage boy in his bed. Reality and fiction were not too far off with Spacey.
This campaign was freaking amazing on so many levels for so many reasons, I've been saying that since it launched. I also loved the multiplayer, although it had huge problems.
@@rubenlopez3364 damn just hearing these brings me back. I never used variants in multiplayer, we played a lot of tourneys so why practice with what you can't use, u know. They didn't bother me a huge amount, we were usually dominating over other players with just basic guns. There definitely was so bs moments tho
yeah, the path the writers chose to just make irons a "plot twist bad guy at the end" was pretty disappointing, though they could've made it at least a bit better when you were given the option to either choose to go with irons or the UN.
Almost feels like the developers realised that most people would be like "Meh bad guy has a point tho" so they added the death camp level just so you wouldn't want to join
“We are not designing a weapon of mass destruction…because we have already built it.” A friend commented that the balls needed to say this in front of the United Nations are absolutely massive.
a weapon of mass destruction doesn't have to appear as we think they should be. I think, the way how I see it, a weapon of mass destruction can be in the form of something that we created and as time goes that something is misused and it became the very weapon that we seek to remove until it is too late.
Lol thats what happened with Israel. Eisenhower said during the Israel nuclear program fiasco: Israel will not be the first one to introduce nukes in the region. *Technically it was the US who introduced nukes in the region because of their nuke submarines patrolling the areas. Also Israel scientists helped South Africa develop nuclear weapons, so yup Israel has nukes but doesnt register as a nuclear armed country.
@@smokingcrab2290 I'm pretty sure that there is only one political spectrum that idolizes politicians and it's certainly not the normies. Modi, Trump, Orban and Erdogan are clearly idolized by their supporters and guess which side of political spectrum they are?
He’s probably got Atlast licking down the perimeter, mind you most of the countries have outsourced security jobs to Atlas, so it wouldn’t be a surprise that Irons has control of the compound, what is surprising is he didn’t walk out of there holding the world leaders hostage... so you could say that he has standards
@@mathieugervais501 He has something worse than the entire nuclear arsenal of the world and with his tech can likely stop most nukes anyway. Every nation grew complacent and instead of having full-out wars or proxy wars to settle conflicts, they all hired the same guy to make the weapons tech and development which left them all vulnerable.
@deloreandmc88 Yeeeah, now that you say this... Spacey, Irons and this Underwood fella all look so damn similar, it's like they're twins or, lol imagine, the exact same person 😂
Quite a few games lack that feature for some reason, where you could lead the bad guy to victory … altough the ones do, usually adds the plot twist when he/he turns against you as you just know too much. i would think that a game where you are best buds with the villain and he is the mastermind and you are the one who makes it happen would be a great game similar to red alert’s soviet campaigns. i guess it would be a huge game and it would need to be gratifying at the end somehow… so i guess something of a Thanos like drive is needed that the goal is not quite ruling the world but to give it another chance to be a better place… like thanos did not take a throne at the and he just sat down in his garden, finally at peace to know the world is ‘better’
What are you guys smoking? The facial animations are extremely stiff and uncomfortable. Notice how his mouth and eyes move, but whole rest of his face is totally static? The model detail of his face is doing a lot of the heavy lifting here. He looks so much like Kevin Spacey that the animations seem a lot better than they actually are.
This is one of the best shooter campaigns I've ever seen. Imo, Mitchell's character development regarding his mechanical arm is one of the best ways I've seen such a thing treated in fiction- or at least, definitely better than Yang's arm in RWBY. Also, remember that this is the game that started the meme "Press F to pay respects."
@@granddukeofmecklenburg You just thinks it's, "woke", to say that. Kevin Spacey has played a myriad of different characters throughout his career. Each one more convincing than the next.
@@granddukeofmecklenburg Nah Kevin Spacey has range. He is known these days for House of Cards and characters inspired by it (Irons) but he has played many different types of characters.
It's insane how in just 5 years of technological advancement this footage looks like it may not have been shot IRL. Also big respec for Kevin Spacey, he should be nominated for some rewards for God's sake.
"We are not developing a weapon that can target specific ethnic groups." **low amounts of clapping** Why are you clapping? He did the bare fucking minimum and you're applauding that shit?!
more like the ones that clapped were the ones that aren't morally corrupt. because those that didn't clapped kinda lowkey pissed when he said there's no such weapons.
@@vuxluongw I'd disagree. The ones that clapped did it on reflex. The ones that didn't thought in the same way I did, I wager. Sure, some of them were probably vicious enough to do as you said, but I'd wager the vast majority weren't.
Well that's impossible. He has a bioweapon that effects everyone except him and his soldiers and workers. He has an army that streches around the globe and other private players are also supporting it
Almost everyone would say that about their own country to be fair. I don't think I ever heard someone with no overt biases go "My government is both competent and not corrupt in any form"
This game was epic. From gameplay to story it was awesome. Strange how we had 3 companies working cod and no-one thought that one should handle classic war (WWI/WWII/Vietnam etc), one should do Modern War (1990s to 2030s) and the last should make futuristic warfare (2050+)
