Third podcast and it’s already my favorite. I’m all aboard the Nerd Train. 🚂. I love that you don’t spend half the pod doing pro pickleball news. Keep it coming.
You guys are definitely becoming my favorite podcast to listen to. I love the perspective and I'm super stoked that you support small brands because that's what I love about pickleball. I'm so thankful that I returned the two paddles that I had purchased last year that rhyme with uhh and urk..😊😊
The bearded guy gave the best explanation of the surface composition of paddles that I have ever heard. Clear and understandable. Also explained why initial heavy grit seems to vanish on the Ruby and other paddles. My favorite surface is carbon and fiberglass {J2H and black diamond) and I was happy to hear that that combination is not being phased out. Also great explanation of paddle eraser cleaner and use on any paddle. Thanks!
I'm enjoying the podcast. Keep it up! I'm curious to hear what Justin thinks the future of paddle grit will be like. Spin degradation is such a huge problem for anyone who can't just get a free new paddle every tournament.
Gents this is a fantastic podcast, and I love the NerdTown talk and the myth busting. Thanks for the in depth discussions. I hope to continue watching new episodes
Loved the talk about TW and sour spot. I'm currently playing a Pro Line Energy and so the sweet spot is more elongated than circular, and I can definitely tell that if I hit the sour spot, it feels like crap. On the contrary, I recently tried out the J2K and my god the sweet spot is big and its such a forgiving paddle. I'm definitely considering transitioning over. Keep the nerdy discussions coming!
I loved traveling to Nerdtown with you guys. You are a great combination of enthusiasm and expertise. And I particularly loved hearing my question read on air. Geek status validated. Another question: is there any way for us nerds to determine the swingweight at home without specific expensive apparatus?
I appreciate Justin debunking the common refrain about not using a rubber eraser on kevlar-faced paddles. I just got a Spartus Apollo, so the topic was quite pertinent for me.
I was meaning to ask if you guys can talk about the Launch Angle of paddles. I recently heard of it when comparing 14mm vs 16mm, and I'm curious if you guys can explain a bit more about it and how it works, and could you also relate it to how a paddle performs when it has a lower or higher launch angle. Thanks!
I guess I am a hardcore regular.. I have seen all three podcasts. Thanks for the discussion about handle pallets which was my question but I especially enjoyed the discussion of spin, peel ply, and paddle surfaces. Very informative overall. A name for your tournament team: The Gearheads.
“Sponsored by No One” 😂😂 just did some normal group play… and lost 11 games in a row… 😂 I like these dudes. When your reviews came out, wont lie…it was this random mix of paddle review/low,soothing, criminal podcast voice…. But these podcasts bring out your sarcastic personality and I’m digging you guys. Keep it up.
I’ve been playing the Mark Kinetic since it came out…. WHAT a GREAT %#%^ Paddle! I’m playing it into the ground until I pick up my next paddle. Would be great to know the specifc differences in feel between the Kinetic and the other Mark Paddles
I am having a hard time adjusting to my new kevlar paddle it's just to plush for my play style, missing to many dinks and drops. Switched back to my BD.
Does the thickness of the Epoxy layer prior to peel play change from paddle company to company? Example: If your peel ply sheet is the weave of Slik and another is Burlap, you'll get vastly different grip feels. Good job Justin. Great Myth bust on ball dust. Justin, what are the swing/twist weights on the MARK KINETIC?
Awesome episode! I have a question for you guys, does twist weight feel the same between differently shaped paddles? Such as a 6.5 on an elongated feel the same as a 6.5 on a standard shape or 6.5 on hybrid? Or is this more tied into forgiveness?
It’s like people completely forget there is an epoxy resin layer regardless if your paddle is made of Carbon, Kevlar or Toilet paper.. at the end of the day if the peel ply is there and eraser isn’t going to harm it 🤷🏻♂️
Justin, how hard is it to sit there and hear praise for the “enemy’s” paddles? Have you had any moments where you’re about to share something and think “I can’t share Mark’s proprietary information”?
Great episode fellas ! One important suggestion to get you guys to the next level in podcasting………….host always has to be on the left in the split screen 😂 Obviously didn’t read rule #1 of Podcasting for Dummies lol
Yea to hear about each of your go to paddle modifications would be cool. Interesting in recent John Kew podcast they’ve been adding the Slyce butt cap weight which I think is like 30 grams. You guys experiment with that at all?
More on standard/wide body paddles, need a paddle to replace the Anna Bright Gen 3, have a worn out CRBN 2X 14mm and a ALW 12.7. Nanotac seems to be the best facing material out there as long as it passes USAP. Proton has been trying to use it, I say trying only because they seem to be challenged making them, out of stock for over 6 months. Diadem experimented with a type of tacky surface but just doesn’t seem to have the spin everyone wants. Manufactures need to have the surface wear out to sell more paddles period. Peel ply is just garbage, spin drops off after a week, in 3-4 weeks no longer allows full swings not enough spin to keep it in, 2 months the surface is smooth and worst is spray on grit. Proton warranties their surface for life! The industry needs to step up and develop quality paddles that last! But if we keep buying what they are producing they never will, or once someone finds a real solution for a quality surface then all will follow. Or better yet come up with a better ball, a better librarian ball! Quiet, spin forever, doesn’t hurt as much if bagged, won’t damage paddle faces like plastic balls do, won’t crack in cold weather, aren’t effected as much in hot weather, and last longer so less plastic in the land fills.
Question! What is your opinion on how much of a difference is actually made in regards to pickleball elbow/other arm health related ailments between a 16mm and 14mm paddle? I decided to stick with 16mms for the potential benefit, but is it negligible?
Grip size and how tightly you have to hold it, so the higher the swing weight in theory the tighter you have to hold the paddle for the same swing speed?
@123BV8 no I meant in the sense that the thicker paddle (16) absorbs more vibration/impact from the ball. That's what I've been told anyway. That the greater the impact absorption the greater the protection from ailments such as tennis elbow (hence the reason for gel grips like hesacore to absorb more impact). This isn't the only factor of course. Grip and weight I know play a role. Lighter is better generally as I understand it. But in this case thickness for vibration/impact absorption
If Kevlar increases dwell time (which it appears due to how dirty mine gets) then Kevlar is here to stay. I’m sure we’ll see tons of mixed options but I don’t see it going anywhere.
@@123BV8 that’s moreso a durability issue than a material issue. They’re discussing playability here not durability tho I agree that needs to be fixed for all materials
@@WhitePillMan No more spin no more playability…but if we keep buying and accepting the poor durability and lack of playability after a month the manufactures will never come up with a better solution, why would they. They can sell us a new paddle every two to three months so we spend $1000 a year with them verse one paddle that last a year for say $350….
I’ve loved your videos and this was my first cast and liked it as well. Who is the beard and does he work for Mark PB? A little more background please.
Hi, my name is Justin and I'm the Head of Product Development for Mark Pickleball. Pretty much the head gear nerd. haha. We covered it a little in episode 1, but didn't want to do the full introduction on each pod because my role as co-host on this pod is more about being a paddle nerd/insider and not so much Mark specific.
Thanks. I ordered a J2K based on Louis’s video he did when it first cam out and love it. In regards to using and eraser, i don’t use on. I do the same as mentioned and brush the paddle across the front of my shirt or shorts and get no build up.
@@Justin_MarkPBCome up with a face that produces high spin and lasts a year of heavy top spinning, that doesn’t drop off within that year and stands up to hard hitting and you have something. Gone through too many peel ply paddles in 2-3 months and after 1 month the spin starts dropping off significantly. Tried two painted on grit paddles and after 2 weeks the sweet spots were smooth.
You gave a general opinion, but no facts, no specifics, no viable thesis as to whether carbon fiber or Kevlar will be more popular going forward. We all have a 50/50 chance of getting it right.
Neither, the peel ply’s only last a month before spin degrades….epoxy is epoxy….the winner will be a real solution to the paddles spin potential lasting more than a month or two.
In theory it allows you to grip the paddle with a lighter hold so helping to eliminate one of the causes of tennis elbow, flexing the interior and or exterior muscle called the extensor carpi radialis brevis. But if it makes the grip too large it could cause issues also.