@@Todo_fightingBJJ and Judo have the same roots--Japanese jujustsu. SamBO was based on dozens of different European and Asian arts, Judo being just one of many (SamBO has everything Judo has, and also many techniques which were never a part of Judo)... Meanwhile, Greek pankration and wrestling were MMA and NHB thousands of years ago. Most modern techniques were routine at the ancient Olympics.
@@STiergoofball you shouldn't find this funny. It is disrespectful to anyone who was ever learning a second language. It should be normal. Also at least he is improving while there are fighters liken Conor or Paddy who can't be understood without subtitle. Thoose guys are funny bc they don't even bother to learn english but still do big talks.
But also every Jiu Jitsu guy has a lot of wrestling I think every form of ground fighting needs someone else Every big Sambo guy is doing Jiu Jitsu too(like Khabib and Islam) Every high level Jiu Jitsu guy is learning some sort of wrestling too Gordon Ryan(best no gi grappler worldwide right now for those who don't know him) and every high level MMA wrestler is doing some sort of submission grappling like Jiu Jitsu too(Jon Jones is the best example) No martial art is perfect and it has a reason why everyone is learning other ground fighting styles besides their favorite one who competes at a high level
I appreciate Khabib saying this. Sambo was a groundfighting style before UFC 1 to a more significant degree than few western styles were, so if anyone was in a position to downplay the significance of BJJ he's a serious contender, but he doesn't. Instead he's focused on the undeniable impact that BJJ made.
This is why I like Khabib > He’s smart > he’s respectful > he has a class family > he works very hard at being the best ! I like him even more after this interview because of the respect for my friend and mentor Royce Gracie >>
@@jjbailey3818 Royce knows a lot of people.. he’s a teacher / professor he does seminars all over the country . I I went to his school in Torrance years ago . Anybody could’ve done that that wanted to learn jujitsu . Royce was readily available to instruct anyone. Now he basically does seminars and privates. The Gracie kids have taken over the Torrance Academy.
Khabib has totally mocked BJJ throughout his career….. even got t-shirt made that said “If Sambo was easy it would be called Ju-jitsu, and wore it in Brazil…… not a whole lot of respect or class at that time
Royce Gracie was the reason I ever started training and fighting because he was a fuckn badass taking out multiple people in one night from his back even 😂
I think Khabib is slowly establishing a dynasty in combat sports just like the Grace's did before him where there fighters are dominating the sport across multiple promotions I'm here for all of it
Even tho they have spent a lot time training with bjj practitioners mostly in the USA, they only high level mma team I know that are not dependent of having a bjj coach, they have adapted combat sambo grappling to mma.
Wow, for all the wrestling fans boys who like to bring up Sakuraba every time someone shows the Gracies respect….this is the best wrestler in UFC history saying that the Gracies changed MMA with their jiujitsu
Cause they did, that's a fact. Yea, it's "in" to shit on the Gracie's and they think "oh, but Sakuraba", somehow dimishes that. But, to anybody with common sense, it actually doesnt
It was originally supposed to be Rickson, not Royce. The problem is Rickson was bigger and shredded. He looked meaner so Rorion said to truly prove the effectiveness of Jiu Jitsu it would make sense to have Royce fight. He was skinny and didn’t look like a badass. Good choice on Rorion.
Rickson had branched off from Rorion's school and stole some of Rorion's students. That probably didn't go well, so Rorion picked Royce as the alternative.
Rickson was already winning MMA events in Japan before UFC 1, so Rickson promoted BJJ in Japan while Royce and Rorion promoted it in North America--division of labor.
If we don't consider mma fighters who study different disciplines and are the most complete and effective fighters, I think comparing fighters from different disciplines that are just trained in that one BJJ is probably on top of the most effective ones with sambo.
@@stevesalkas9128This is a list of people who lost to Royce: -Continental Champion of Savate -Japan's #1 ranked bareknuckle karate fighter -the fighter who beat the World Champion of Muay-Thai -Multiple Time European National Champion of Judo -Sabaki Champion -Grandmaster of Chinese Goju-Karate -Olympic Wrestling Champion with an 80 pound advantage What have YOU done lately, Steve?
@@stevesalkas9128 Re "Gracie killer" Here is the list with Kazushi Sakuraba: -Kazushi Sakuraba lost to Vanderlei Silva, a BJJ black belt -Vanderlei Silva lost to Vitor Belfort, a BJJ black belt -Vitor Belfort lost to Anderson Silva, a BJJ black belt -Anderson Silva lost to Chris Weidman, a BJJ black belt -Chris Weidman lost to Luke Rockhold, a BJJ black belt -And the Gracies are the ones who created BJJ. That should put things in perspective.
spongey mat and loose rules gave Gracie every chance. The suit won him the match against Ken Shamrock who really was nothing. Even Kimo gave Royce a rough night, even with refs and cage help he struggled. Someone like Frank Bruno would have destroyed everyone in this sport for years. Without even learning anything. He was just so big/strong and could pretty much do 12 hard rounds. Now it's more about the drugs they are allowed to take. 190 rules that stop even pushing. And threats of eye pokes to again probably keep boxers out. Not that they pay enough to get anyone decent.
@@Moucam IDK. Just because they cut to compete doesn't mean they couldn't rock an open weight GP like the good olde' days. Khabib just has something else inside him when you see him get after someone on the ground. I'm not saying I wouldn't have tapped, but IIRC he basically made Connor quit (tapped from a cross face) like he realized he didn't have anything for him AND Connor pushed him more than anyone else in the UFC. It's also a whole different world now in that sport. Yes, there were some really talented folks back in the day, but you didn't have anyone close to John Jones level in that weight range. IDK how long you've followed the sport, but the talent pool is insane now compared to what it was even 10 years ago let along 25+. It's also not the fairest comparison to say Kahbib could hold his own to the open weight based on the talent back in the day because had Khabib been around back then, who knows how that would have gone (Without the talent pool of today would he have grown into the fighter he is?). There's a lot to consider. You really can't compare fighters in different eras against each other because of all the factors. Someone that was a great champ back in the day that clearly would get destroyed if you through them into the ring today potentially could rise to the occasion if they had the same training opportunities! It's fun to think about though. Khabib is an absolute savage though. I watched the sport religiously from ~2003-2012 and then stopped for years. One of the first fights I watched after years was Khabib vs someone and I just couldn't believe how savage he was. It was like his opponent took his lunch money every day in middle school and Khabib never forgot it. As I write this, Khabib on the ground is like the physical manifestation of what is going on in Wanderlei Silva's head when he's got his wild prefight face when he does his wrist role thing.
Yea Sakuraba bruised the Gracie pride for sure but when you look at the skill level plus his weight advantage, really its not so surprising. Renzo was the same weight at 185, but Royler 150, Royce 170 and Ryan between 175-185 depending on the event and if he wasn't out partying. Royce fought him for 1.5 hours in that first fight, then won a Unanimous decision in the second fight. Not exactly humiliating.
@@Guitibaca Royce was 176 and Saku was at 178 for the Grand Prix and with the exception of the opening round it was Saku dominating. not to mention Royce finished on the stool. Saku walked at a chubby 183lbs so outside of Royler, there were no major weight advantages. Though yes i wouldn't say humiliating so much as dominant
Gracies always changed the rules for their advantage. They did horrible in Japan against Japanese jujitsu. Sakuraba was the Gracie hunter. It took PED for them to beat him and Youth to beat Sakuraba in the final fight. It sure was fun watching Sakuraba mud stomp the whole family.
There's no such thing as Japanese jujutsu. That's just martial art cosplay. Sakuraba was a wrestler. Run your mouth about the gracies, Royce still changed the world. The gracies still changed the world.
@@aplus1080 BJJ itself is a good martial art to learn. However the Gracie family have made up a lot of BS mythology around the origins of BJJ which is still preached by many Gracie family members today and many BJJ enthusiasts still believe.
@@kanewhitehead1522 no doubt. They're mostly third world scumbags. But some things aren't debatable: the Gracie family changed martial arts forever, and have had a demonstrable impact on the world. That's about all the truth there is with that group, though. Inventing triangle? Inventing guard? Etc. No.
Keep in mind, yes.. not a lot of people didn't have the knowledge of grappling they have now, however, Royce fought in a no rule brawl fight with no gloves. There was however 2 rules: no eye pokes, no biting (although someone did bite him). He also fought 3 times in one night, and no time limit. This is more of what a real fight would be and thus what makes Royce a badass.
BJJ comes from judo, Japanese jujitsu, and Catch Wrestling. There is a huge difference between judo ne-waza and BJJ. Judo ne-waza does not have the intricate positional hierarchy of BJJ. You need to watch -Royce vs Remco Pardoel and -Mackenzie Dern vs Savannah Nagi The behavior of those judoka (who lacked BJJ or Catch Wrestling) is typical of most pure judoka on the ground. They typically go to a loose turtle position or referee's position and try to defend against getting pinned. When BJ Penn was a BJJ white belt with good basics, he did judo ne-waza with pure judoka and was able to tap the judo black belts. As a person trained in both judo and BJJ, I can tell you right now that BJ Penn was not the only BJJ white belt to pull that off.
As a big guy who often gets challenged for no reason by small guys who think they have some skill, I need to know the best way to eliminate them quickly before anyone notices and makes me out to be a bully.
Just to keep things in perspective, -Sakuraba lost to Vanderlei Silva, a BJJ black belt -Vanderlei Silva lost to Vitor Belfort, a BJJ black belt -Vitor Belfort lost to Anderson Silva, a BJJ black belt -Anderson Silva lost to Chris Weidman, a BJJ black belt -Chris Weidman lost to Luke Rockhold, a BJJ black belt -And the Gracies created BJJ
Whenever someone speaks on the Gracie accomplishments, theres always those "but what about that ONE guy they couldn't beat" Oh, ok. So, I guess their accomplishments meant nothing cause ONE guy beat them. Be careful, your hater is showing haha
Just to keep things in perspective: -Sakuraba lost to Vanderlei Silva, a BJJ black belt -Vanderlei Silva lost to Vitor Belfort, a BJJ black belt -Vitor Belfort lost to Anderson Silva, a BJJ black belt -Anderson Silva lost to Chris Weidman, a BJJ black belt -Chris Weidman lost to Luke Rockhold, a BJJ black belt And the Gracies are the ones who created BJJ.
Whenever someone speaks on the Gracie accomplishments, theres always those "but what about that ONE guy they couldn't beat" Oh, ok. So, I guess their accomplishments meant nothing cause ONE guy beat them hahaha. Be careful, your hater is showing
Gracie's had a head start and not for the reason you think. America had its first taste of mma with UFC. However in Brazil there was "vale tudo" which has a very long history.
@@InvisibleHotdog Kron Gracie has had a lot of success in mma. He looked like shit after he moved to the goonies and stopped training. What a shit argument.
He did a lot of development of the open guard. I believe he added more wrestling content to GJJ. Carlos created the original version of GJJ. Helio updated it. Rolls updated it again.
It’s what made me (a little dude) love mma. The David vs Goliath tournament was epic. Almost was a David vs David in the final. Frye vs Bohlander would’ve been amazing. Props to big Gary Goodrich.
The Gracies didnt found the ufc. Rorion and some other business guys started the UFC. Royce won important early ufc tournaments and changed martial arts forever.
@@InvisibleHotdog guy who will never be able to get their IQ up to 85: the Gracies did not start the ufc. Never talk again unless it's about potato chips or what loud cars you like.
I don't get this "insult". Like, you don't have to know karate to beat karate, you don't have to know boxing to beat a boxer, But you damn for sure have to know bjj, or something similar, to stand a chance against it. That just shows it's effectiveness
Almost every top MMA fighter these days studies at least some BJJ, or something similar like catch wrestling or SamBO. It's now a base requirement to survive MMA--the opposite of supplemental. Before UFC 1 most martial artists neglected ground fighting as "boring" or even "useless" and the Gracies changed the perception worldwide. Ground fighting went from "niche" and "optional" to "essential"
Dude i love khabib he is so respectful dude is a king. I still dont get why ppl here in the US booed him when he would be talking before or after the fights he was being honest about each one he would do but yet alot still booed him wtf haha its becausr he wasnt a ass kisser or gimmick fake ass so the ppl here didnt like he was so real is all i can understand i remember they cheered on the bully loud opponent of his instead. That says alot of bad about us 😮
@@realtruth1448 -Sakuraba lost to Vanderlei Silva, a BJJ black belt -Vanderlei Silva lost to Vitor Belfort, a BJJ black belt -Vitor Belfort lost to Anderson Silva, a BJJ black belt -Anderson Silva lost to Chris Weidman, a BJJ black belt -Chris Weidman lost to Luke Rockhold, a BJJ black belt
Sakuraba deserves respect but he never fought in the UFC. Pride was the minor league to the UFC. Rickson Gracie would have mopped the floor with Sakuraba
@mike b Sakuraba was a UFC hw champion. Pride in its heyday was the top mma organization in the world. Rickson ducked Sakuraba on multiple occassions. While being a great sub artist, he had no answer for Sakuraba's wrestling or kicking game. And the entire Gracie family hod no answer for Sakuraba's catch wrestling.
he literally choked people with his gi and belt..which was a weapon. if the gi was restricted back then like how it is nowadays, most likely wrestling would be the craze instead of bjj. it was believed, that the early UFC were a propaganda by the gracie to commercialize their art.
@@Adiarby13 “most likely” “would be” These are hypothetical words that are used to make a hypothetical argument. Anyone can rationalize an outcome in their favor when they are debating hypothetically. A hypothetical argument can never have as much merit as measurable testable results.
@@Adiarby13We know what happened to the martial arts genre after UFC I. It was transformed - by Royce. He brought the martial arts genre out of the dark ages.
he is honest in explaining the shortcomings of BJJ not through other people's views or his personal grudge.. but he explains more from the point of view of a martial arts expert without using abusive words.. his opinion on BJJ and the Gracie family is not from a fanatic or a hater but an expert and a transparent observer..
No one knew! Not even sambo guys. Don't came saying that he did what he did because "the guys didn't know how to deal with Jiu-Jitsu". It's easy to say that now that everyone trains Jiu-Jitsu, specially Sambo guys. If you didn't train it you would be tapping too
Just to keep things in perspective: -Sakuraba lost to Vanderlei Silva, a BJJ black belt -Vanderlei Silva lost to Vitor Belfort, a BJJ black belt -Vitor Belfort lost to Anderson Silva, a BJJ black belt -Anderson Silva lost to Chris Weidman, a BJJ black belt -Chris Weidman lost to Luke Rockhold, a BJJ black belt -And the Gracies created BJJ
List of people who lost to Royce Gracie: -World Shootfighting Champion -Continental Savate Champion -Japan's #1 ranked bareknuckle karate fighter -The fighter who beat the World Champion of Muay-Thai -Sabaki Champion -Grandmaster of Chinese Goju Karate -Greco-Roman Wrestling Olympic Champion Back in 1994, that was a big deal. Royce transformed the martial arts genre by bringing it out of the dark ages. That is why (regardless of whatever flaws he has or short-term failures he had later on in life), he is the most influential MMA fighter of all time.
And, it was bare knuckles which caused some guys to cry uncle when hit in the face. No cushion. Also, the Gracie technique of hitting people on the back with their heel wasn't banned. Pretty devastating for the one on top. Plus, rabbit punches were legal. MMA became part show because politicians name calling it cockfighting and wanted to look important in acting as if their sensibilities were offended.
Sakuraba might have something to say about Catch Wrestling being effective I prefer Silat personally because dudes trying to stab dudes in the streets wrestling becomes a liability in the streets and in jail
Yes , at least a 15 lb weight advantage, landed one punch , got top position & did nothing. He knew not to expose so much of a finger on the ground against Royce
Probably wouldn't matter to him. Cause he knows that regardless of what happened when MMA fighters evolved to start training in a striking AND grappling art, because of early UFC, it doesn't take away from the effect Royce Gracie had on the martial arts worlds
Regardless of what happened when MMA fighters evolved to start training in a striking AND grappling art, because of early UFC, it doesn't take away from the effect Royce Gracie had on the martial arts world I never understand this call-out. I guess hating on the Gracie's is still "in"?
Gracies did not permit catch wrestlers nor sambo champions nor Japanese judo champions to compete in the early ultimate fight challenge promo for gracie jiujitsu.
Oleg Taktarov was the first Sambo guy in the UFC and he showed absolutely nothing in the grappling department. Khabib is like Royce with the whole "Our style is the best style"
