I appreciate the sincerity in the review, but as an owner of a GT, can I add some extra detail ? Firstly it has excellent storage of drive information so I was able to access and photo my accumulated drive info and my total of 2003.5 miles averaged 3.3 miles per kWh - 3.3 x 77.4 = 255.42 miles per full battery. The WLTP tests mileage for Europe and most of the world and gives the GT a range of 263 miles. Close enough to mine. I have done two long trips and lots of shorter ones. Most of my friends heads have been slammed back into the headrest on their first ride lol, and the rest of the time I'm being sensible to keep my license clean.... Oh yes, over here in the UK you can set the ambient lighting to any colour out of the hundred or so available OR let it change per drive mode
"drilling for petroleum is just as damaging or even more then mining for lithium ... " what a bunch of CRAP . you have no idea what conditions are in lithium mining mines and the impact they have on environment around them AND people working in them
Elephant in the room. Hyundai and Kia are hard to insure due to their easy theft process. Are the EVs in that concern too. I think these are neat cars, but will worry about keeping it in my parking space.
No and the only kias that had issues are the manual key ones anything new and push button had the protections in place. Drive a new Hyundai, Kia product with ease.
If you were reading reputable media, you would know that it's only cars that use physical keys and even then, the newer ones don't have the issue. Vehicles with keyless ignition don't have the problem.
Nope. I had no trouble insuring my EV6 GT. In fact, it's so new, the insurance company just billed it as a standard EV6. I'm just going to let them continue to think that! ha ha!
One addendum to the environmental consideration... The lithium and other battery materials, which we certainly want to be mined cleanly and with good labor practices, are put in the car once in the normal lifetime of the car. Gasoline or diesel needs to be added hundreds or thousands of times over a car's lifetime. That's a huge difference in both mass and volume.
I sold my Wind AWD with tech package last year so that I could buy the GT this year. The GT is better in every way for someone like me who charges at home in my garage every night. this car is a lambo in speed and performance…that also lets me carry my wife and kids!!
So is Toyota Lying when they said it's 60 to 1 "EV's vs Just Hybrid"???? ( and no the Longevity of EV's and Cost of repair makes them basically disposable after less than 10 years.. then what to do with all those Massive Battery Pack.. "No Car Massive waste"...
The dealership markup point should be a red light tbh. I tried getting an Ioniq 5 or EV6 late last year, but every. single. one. near me was obscenely marked up. Ended up buying a used Clarity instead ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'd rather have a Tesla Model 3 Performance for the range and looks. Admittedly this does charge faster on a road trip if you can find a 350kw charger (good luck).
I've had my EV6 GT for about a month and a half. I haven't attempted a road trip in it yet. I've just been doing my daily Tacoma to Seattle commute (which is at about 3:30 AM... so no traffic) and I charge every day when I get home. I charge to about 80% and I come home with roughly 40% of my battery left. Granted, I've only driven it in the cold and I'm going highway speeds. But so far the range hasn't been a problem for me. But if you don't have a home charger... yeah... it would be a pain in the butt. My wife's Ioniq 5 would probably be our road trip vehicle.
I am in Tacoma too, picked mine up early Dec and love every drive. Highway speed hurt range more than cruising around local roads, keeping under 70 (I know not gonna happen) really increases range.
@@matthewsalexander1 It depends on what you're looking for. The EV6 GT is faster, has a lot more power, more utility, but a higher price. And it's an electric vehicle. As much as I love EVs (we have two of them now), they're not for everyone. They aren't going to fit everyone's individual needs. If you live in an area where the charging infrastructure is poor or non-existent, an EV probably isn't for you. Or if you live in an apartment or rental home and can't install a home charger, it might be wise to wait a bit until the public charging networks catch up a bit. The Stinger GT is a great car. But I was specifically looking for an EV at this point.
Tom let’s face it be honest most EV buyers are buying an EV because they are fed up with getting raped by Oil companies. The environment is a bonus but not a determine factor for me. The EV 6 GT is for the power. My gas savings are 300$ a month and that in the end was the determine factor. Living in Canada winters are severe but the electric rates are dirt cheap so I charge at home.
My gas vehicle got nearly 10mpg less in the winter when compared to summer, and I didn't even use remote start. I would spend my entire drive to work waiting for the engine and cabin to warm up. Having an EV is so much nicer. Warm as soon as I get in, and no engine warmup time. In the cold months that results in having to leave it plugged in for an extra 15 minutes while I'm asleep. What a pain.
Bingo, same here. We got wrangler 4xe and the least talked about feature is the best one yet. That instant cabin heater is a game changer. Add to that the heated steering wheel.
Tom, this KN, sorry KIA, looks like an excellent EV choice. Once upon a time, I used to be able to name a vehicle from a distance, but now with some suvs and trucks looking similar, I have difficulty keeping up with them. That said, what was that suv to the right (in the video) as you were leaving the Fred Meyer charging station? It looked nice. My guess is that it is a GM product. Your channel has, in my opinion, the best car reviews (and more) on the internet. Thank you, Martin, and anyone else involved. Quality and Class 👍
This is nice and all, but I just bought a Lucid Air for 118 and feel like it was worth the cost based on looks alone... Just so we're clear on which model I got, it was the gold Hot Wheels for $1.18.
What about right to repair? Do you want to make a video how repairable are current EVs, both how it is possible for a regular owner as well what does the EULA says. AFAIK, Tesla straight up prohibits car owners to perform ANY repairs.
Thanks for a very informative review. The EV 6 GT is such an appealing vehicle, I want one! However, dealing with dealerships is an absolute NO. There may be some out there who are descent, but they are an extreme minority. I'll get a Tesla 3 Performance...
Interesting and informative about a very interesting EV. Much to like about it but I find the seat materials, in all models, rather low rent. Seems Kia has capitulated to the vegan mob and deleted full leather which at this price point should be standard with vegan alternatives available for those who wish for it.
I have to disagree with a couple of ideas here. "hard to get in the different drive modes especially drift mode " all the modes including GT mode are right on the steering wheel how hard is that to find or one click activate? Drift mode is purposely more difficult to engage so it is not accidentally engaged for legal reasons no doubt. Also why is the GT line awd rated at 252 miles and the Wind awd with exact same motor listed at 282 ? I doubt if this is correct. They should both be the same.
One of the fairest car channels on EVs, from an owner. Absolutely-they’re better than gas cars for the environment, but if that’s your main reason to get one, take a bike or bus to do errands and eat less meat. That said, they’re a hell of a lot of fun to drive and people who could otherwise afford one go way overboard thinking they need like 500 miles of range living in the suburbs. Still bummed they didn’t find a way to up the battery capacity for this model though.
Tom its very good is so many ways but what happened to the rear end…so ugly…If you get a chance or maybe you have, please test range on a Hybrid. Many have no where near the range they claim…with all the weight with batteries and a gas engine it would seem to make sence…
Acceleration in my R1T is impressive as well. I find it hard to refrain from employing the grin-factor of a 3 Sec run to 60 in something weighing 7k+ lbs. Luckily I can charge at home and so far am able to keep it charged to around 70% on just a standard 110v outlet with no issues.
Great review. Glad to see you do a followup after your media day one. I would have loved to join you for the range test with my GT. Hills also hurt EV range too which we have in spades here in Pierce/King Cty. Weather here the last few months has made range testing tough for sure, looks like you lucked out and had a great day for it! As you mentioned early in video tires are going to be a range killer, I believe tires are a significant portion of the range loss for the GT beyond the motor sizes and extra 250#. I am trying other tires to see if it helps by lowering rolling res. I had some old hardened up tires I tried on it on it and saw a big jump in range. efficiency swung from 2.96mi/kw up to 3.57mi/kw on a short local highway loop @60mph. For road tripping you can make normal 150mi highway hops and will have to stop and charge at pretty much same stops as the GTLine, but just charge a bit longer each time due to lower pack level. Overall though the time offset is minimal, specially if you can get a 350kw to run well. I have seen 235-240Kw on mine repeatedly, even 170kw from a 150 charger. GT are avail at MSRP and even under now since Tesla dropped pricing. There was a dealer or two in OR selling for $5k under msrp a few weeks ago.
Thank you for the excellent overview of cargo space and real world test. I'm evaluating for family hauler and car camping in snowy climes, and will wait for the next.
Can a smaller wheel be mounted? The gt line comes with 21 inch, could you go to a 20 inch wheel and still have clearance for the brake calipers? This could help to increase the range. Similar to how the 21 inch wheels on a tesla model y gets worse mileage compared to a model with 19in wheels
I love EVs but they are stil way to expensive and, at least here in Canada, we don’t have the charging infrastructure in place to eliminate range anxiety. That said, the EV6GT is impressive!!!
Good review but for the fact that again the MyDrive option was not discovered so the suspension could not be set to ‘normal’ and therefore the comments that it is harder than other EV6’s - why is this so hard to find??
Just because I didn't go deep into the menu setting in the video doesn't mean I didn't play with the settings. Even in the softer setting, the GT feels more firm than GT-Line from what I remember. Might have something to do with the tires.
Tom, I'd love to see you do some road trip range tests with other people (and their bags) in the car. This is the situation that is currently keeping us from committing to an EV.
Range with people and bags would only be something I worry about if I had to drive over 150 miles a day every day with a full car load. Otherwise if I was only traveling say 50 miles to and from an airport then I would figure a 200 mile range would be more than enough.
I wonder what the range of a BMW M3 Comp on sticky summer tires is compared to a 330i on all-season tires, and why doesn't anyone want to talk about that range difference? [EDIT] I just got to the Mustang V8 to Turbo4 milage comment. Thanks for discussing that...why do so few other reviewers?
Because that would be a very long test involving measuring out fuel into an empty tank. Yeah, the trip computer would put you in the ballpark, but to be precise, measurement would need to take place. I mentioned that simply because my viewers tend to be less hard-core enthusiasts, more people looking for baseline information. And there's a lot of bad information out there.
@Driven Car Reviews With Tom Voelk Thank you, but what I am trying to get at is that "everyone" is complaining about or comparing the stated overall range of electric vehicles. However, and I may be missing it, no one is complaining about or comparing the stated ranges of ICE vehicles. Yes, the range could be extrapolated from MPG and tank capacity, but essentially, nobody complains about how much less range one version of an ICE vehicle has over another. Could this be due to the ease of finding a gas station compared to a working electrical outlet?
@@TJDST4 Ah, okay. People do complain about the cost of filling the gas tank though (even though in many cases bottled water costs more than gas). It almost seems like efficiency has become less of a consideration when buying.
Great review but it is not a good car! It's not as efficient as Tesla (Tom uses ECO mode and only gets 200 miles), user interface is not as good. Trading in my EV6 this weekend, going back to Tesla. Not to mention, 12V batteries dies shorter than 6 motnhs!! It dies after going away for a long weekend. Another weird thing: apple carplay has to use USB-A port, USB-C port simply doesn't respond. No batteries conditioning as well.
@@DrivenCarReviews why not it's an incentive for people to buy EVs and for the state to create more ev infrastructure. Also more people can utilize the hov lane during heavy traffic which most if the time isn't utilized.
200 miles lol, what a farce the electrics are. Sure if you can afford to have two cars, a house where you charge it, these may make sense. As your only vehicle no dice. Otherwise, you can never live next to a lithium mine, go to Permian base and you see so many people live next to oil drilling equipment. Damage to environment by lithium mines is irreversible.
The need for a house where you can charge is a real thing that needs to and should change ASAP. Charging at charge stations is hardly less expensive than gas. Also new battery technology will help but all this take time.
You do realize you can purchase a different trim with more milage. Certified genius right here. That's like complaining you can't road trip a Lamborghini
200 miles of range is unacceptably short for a family hauler EV, even for a performance beast such as the EV6 GT. A different tire set would probably add 10% of range but the truth is, 77kWh is not enough. I'm guessing 85-90kWh would make this a much more usable vehicle and get the range closer to an acceptable 300 miles.
200 miles of range for daily use (if you charge at home) is more than enough for a family vehicle. It really is. Road trips would be a hassle though. And going with the Wind model gets you close to 300 miles of range. Life is full of compromises.
Tire change will likely bring the GT up to GTLine range, but will cost the performance and handling. But for a long road trip tires like stock GTLine rubber would help significantly. I have seen over .5mi/kw change just from tires.
A Friend of ours, has one of these and loves it, only fault so far on a long road trip was a 4 hour wait in a service station to get on a charger !.... That is bad !
You have mentioned in many EV reviews about the home charging convenience; while you are sleeping - do you fear the garage burning to the ground from a battery fire? This sounds like a chicken little complaint, but is there reason to be concerned? Thanks!
i have owned FOUR electric cars: 2019 Nissan Leaf; 2020 Jaguar I-Pace; 2022 Kia EV6 Wind AWD w/tech package; and 2023 Kia EV6 GT. all of them i charged every single night in garage with the same Nema 14-50 cord i bought off amazon. never a single problem. I think the key is to use good hardware and also buy models that have well made battery packs.
Model 3s are a dime a dozen, have bland looks, spartan interiors, no instrument panel, no HUD, non-adjustable regenerative braking (the paddle braking on the Kia is fantastic), well-known quality control problems and repair time issues. Nonetheless, the M3P is a great car and I almost bought one. I did buy the EV6 GT and I love it. The looks, perfomance, excellent fit and finish and great warranty won me over. I have level 2 charging at home and the range is a non-issue for me. We buy what we like, to each his own.
@@michaelc2254 Exactly. I'll see 15 Model 3s on my way home from work. I will not see another EV6 GT. In fact, I've never seen another one and I work in Seattle, which has a pretty high EV adoption rate. Some people just want something a little different.
I can see how an owning an EV can make someone feel good about themselves for doing their part for the environment. The reality is the cargo ships, fishing trawlers, commercial and private aircraft, trains and heavy hauling trucks will still be needed in the next 25 plus years if not significantly longer. The truth is crude oil will still be drilled for all the numerous other uses than gasoline. Plastics and lubricants, beauty products and other industrial chemicals rely on it as a base substance. Lastly what is EV adoption like in the developing world?
