I have NEVER FELT THIS MUCH disappointment at a series ending. So much potential & we were again cheated. It seemed unlikely they could have a happy ever after, but after all that death & killing, but to end with so many plot holes & giving Villanelle such a short amount of time w/Eve was simply super cruel. Phoebe, where are you? Your gals & fans needed you.
Someone said they might be trying to set up for a Carolyn spin-off and that's the only possible reason I can see behind this ending, because as you say, it left so many loose ends. [spoilers] who shot them? why did Carolyn order them to be shot? presumably she knew about the location change, but how? who is she really working for? What's Pam going to do? If it was just a season ending then sure, but it's (supposedly) the last ever season of this show so WHY would you leave it like that, even the 'Konstantin's daughter joining the 12' storyline was introduced never to be brought up again. I'm not going to attack the writer for killing off V because I watched an interview where they _somewhat_ justified that, but like every series since the first it felt disingenuous. Where was the classic killing eve humour in this? V's outlandish outfits? The music? Not _the worst_ season imo, but disappointing nonetheless.
Completely agree, the final season was a disappointment and the final episode a disaster as reflected by the 2.8 rating on IMDB in stark contrast to the consistent 8+ in seasons 1-3 even season 4 was getting 6-7 ratings , how could they ruin it in such an unsatisfactory way.
I really think Oh and Comer did their best with what was given to them. I think they were both dissatisfied with how the writers ended the show with how neither have really promoted the season at all.
ive never seen someone get the characters MORE wrong..so upsetting. she says she wants to do all the characters right by them and by the fans but she did the opposite
Laura Neal: Villanelle’s journey throughout the series is about her trying to change herself for the better Jodie Comer: I don’t think Villanelle wants to be a good person… The fact that Laura Neal just doesn’t understand this character at all and she got to write her ending is so upsetting … you really can see that Jodie played Villanelle as truly to the character as she could; given she had an absolutely shitty script to work with.
Can't agree more, Jodie acting was amazing like always but the script on season 4 was a mess, some nice scenes here and there but overall all the story was confusing the main characters destroyed, story unfinished, many things started and nothing concluded and introduction of completely useless and boring characters like Eve's new "boyfriend"🤦, what is this man doing in this series I still haven't understood yet. How much time wasted uselessly throughout the season with boooooring and absolutely forgettable characters.
I can’t even bare to listen to LN speak. Makes me wonder if she actually watched the finale episode as it aired. How could she believe that was the best ending? It seems impossible. The anticlimactic killing of the 12 was straight up laughable and unbelievable. My brain hurts from trying to understand why the hell she was thinking.
The end positively WRECKED me. Just cry-in-the-shower wrecked me. And I'm a big burly carpenter guy! It didn't need to end this way. Lara just got lazy. She wanted to leave her mark, even if it meant fans would hate it. It was sooo sweet when Villanelle and Eve were in and around the camper van. My only consolation is the episode of Mythbusters where they prove bullets don't travel more that 18 inches through water. They disintegrate.
They should've ended it with them standing at the boat rail looking across the water to the city lights and left everything else to audience imagination.
lol I'm sorry but after THAT FINALE and Laura Neal says "Eve's spent so much time with Villanelle, and now she's taken on some of her traits in a way." (0:57) I'm like... I'm sorry WHEN did they spend so much time together???? Because a VERY IRRITATING MAJORITY OF THEIR TIME WAS SPENT APART.
Villanelle felt like a bright light, dimmed and reduced to nothing. Her clothing, the humour in her dialogue, and then the finale. There was this power she had in the first two seasons, something feminine, something scary, but it disappeared after season two. Laura Neal's season 4 paled in comparison to its predecessors, Killing Eve was phenomenal because it did something different. It was never what i expected it to be, and Laura Neal absolutely disappointed. That finale was the most cliche spy ending ever, and so many character introductions, so much pointless subplot for absolutely nothing. No payoff whatsoever. It felt like she was running us in circles trying buy herself time before Villaneve reunited. Three seasons of mystery and buildup for the end of the twelve to be reduced to a- what- four minute slow-mo fight scene? Eve and Villanelle crashed the boat with not even a semblance of a plan and neither any weapons. The worst? Villanelle died in a grey tank top. We deserved better.
@Haley_93 I've edited my previous comment. Laura did not do any research whatsoever. Villanelle had hallucinations of herself as drag jesus, its like Neal was making fun of us. Because Villanelle is a psychopath, yes, but she isn't that kind of crazy. She's a trained assassin, and for the larger bit- unfeeling. Tell me why she was such a mess in the fourth season. It's like Villanelle, herself didn't know what she was doing at all or why. Everywhere I look, Laura failed. She was an amateur playwright brought on to finish the show, probably kill it.
Laura Neal was the worst person to finish out this series absolutely dreadful. Just another killing off of the “lesbian”, how original. Wish I had stopped watching after season 2.
@@floptune8515 From season 3, the episode 2, 3, 5 and 8 are almost 10/10 for me. Episode 1 was bad, but the rest were fine. I did not notice any lost of quality vs previous seasons. Only season 4 was incredible bad in every aspect. I hate it.
I'm late to the party only found it recently. I watched series 1, loved it, series 2, good, series 3 I struggled with. It lacked sparkle and had gone into weird territory. So I quit after a couple of episodes and instead read each synopsis right up until the end on wiki episodes. Glad I quit when I did! The best is def series 1 and 2 imho.
Season 3 ended on the bridge. S4 was so disjointed from that S3 ending - all of a sudden there is this animosity and distance between V and Eve. Bizarre. Like the writers just hadn’t watched or thought about the prior season. What a waste of an opportunity. Shockingly bad.
I believe that maybe Laura tried to do what she felt was right but after hearing her say that Villanelle's death is like a "rebirth" and "freedom" for Eve, it made me realise that she just seemed to completely misunderstand them. She suggested that Villanelle needed to die because of all the bad she'd done, but completely ignored how much she'd developed and changed. Villanelle had discovered that maybe her past had made her the way she was and she was trying to become better for Eve, did that mean nothing? Eve on the other hand, had become probably the darkest version of herself but she's allowed to live on and start again? Doesn't make sense to me.
Completely wholeheartedly agree she fulled misrepresented the characters. Like did anyone else not understand the bar scene about carolyn and eve kinda in a stand off on opposite sides like um when did that happen.
Producers saying Laura was the right person to write season 4🤡🤡. Also Jodie smirking while saying she couldn't wait to see people's reactions to season 4...oh yeah she knew we'd pop off lmao.
as heartbroken/mad as I am, your comment made me laugh. Because when she said that I was like so you didn't think the fans were going through enough in real-life for you to rewrite that ending. She did what she wanted to do and called it better. Nobody voted for that! SMH, every time I calm down, I get mad all over again, lmbo. thanks for the laugh though
the way Laura Neal seems so happy and satisfied with herself knowing fans would be destroyed at the ending, and truly how atrocious the writing was is so upsetting
How can they say that they spent ages trying to think about how to give the fans a satisfying end to the show when they gave us what they did? I can forgive the ending as it made sense, but it was rushed and crammed into one episode. That episode pretty much should have been the entire final season. If Laura Neal is so funny, then she could have had so much fun with writing the final season as Eve and Villanelle working together, being together and hunting The Twelve. THAT would have been satisfying.
"how to give the fans a satisfying end" which fans is she talking about? not the lesbian/bisexual women who were the true fan base of the show... straight people don't get it. At all. Clueless!
So they had 4 seasons, building up how powerful the 12 were.. only for villanelle to conveniently find them in one place and to single handedly end them...
It was ridiculously stupid but not in a good way. All the season 4 was a mess in my opinion apart from the acting, the actors did a good job anyway with the 💩 they get.
At first I was devastated that I read a spoiler that one of them died, but it allowed me to chose to press stop and turn off the TV right as they embraced on the ship. That was the end of the show for me. My heart breaks for the rest of you who had to see it with your own eyes. I wouldn't be able to take it. I'm sorry the writer did this to them and us.
I honestly didn't think I could be as disappointed as I was when game of thrones finished until this ending , it's like give the fans every thing they want and then stab them in the back.
When she said she wanted to do the best for the characters I wanted to scream. She absolutely ruined them . How can she say she wanted to do the best by them?
I was screaming when I was watching their actual couple moments in the last episode and for them to end it like that? Why can't we have the happy ending like in the book? I love the characters, especially Jodie but MANNNN the ending was hella disappointing. I was expecting for them to finally be together. LN completely misunderstood Villanelle and Eve :( I'm so heartbroken.
Laura Neal totally failed the epic show. We all waited 4 years for this piece of shit. Anyway, Jodie and Sandra did absolutely an awesome job. They enriched the characters and enlighten the show.
Thank you for releasing this, especially for the people who can't see it because they don't live in America and couldn't watch it on AMC when it aired, I really appreciate it :)
I've watch the season finale last night and I cried all day today. Villanelle was likely to die, but the way she did was really heartbreaking. I've enjoyed anyway the rest of the episode, those two together are magic 💖🌟
@@LittleSkyful 😂😂 Ik I’m sorryyy I just don’t like the way eve is portrayed in season 4 it breaks my heart. Villianelle wants to be with a good normal person that’s why she likes Eve and she’s trying to prove to Eve she can be a good person. But little does she know eve has changed and damn Eve has been gettin so much worse I feel like their dynamic doesn’t work anymore 😭
@@Toxichoneyyy hmm I understand 🙈.. I think Eve changed a little to the end. So I like the dynamic. They're on the same level now, but Eve isn't so angry anymore 😂
I do not think this season showed the depth in Villanelle. She is so much more and it took half the season before we got to see her amazing character. I love the series but was disappointed both at the end and that villanelle ended up in the background. I almost wish I did not see the end. Because I can not stop thinking about it. Where is the depth that we saw in the other seasons😭😭. The actors was perfect as always.
Just ended this atrocious S4, I’m buying the books right F now, it feels like I can’t go on with my life with that finale stuck in my brain ! 😂😢 I CANNOT BELIEVE IT
Watching season 4 puts a lot of “what??!” on my face, so many questions, seems rushed, am straight and married and these two characters deserve more than that rubbish ending. Sad.
Thank you straight and married person who now has understanding of what it is like for us lesbian/bi-sexual women to be 'played with' and emotionally crushed by MOST media....💔
It's hard to believe that the show ended. Killing Eve was nothing short of awesome. The acting and writing was fantastic and the characters were complex and unforgettable. The show will definitely be missed.
I am still confused that.. at the end of Season 3, Eve and Villanelle walked to each other on the bridge to show the trust and true love, everything is perfect. Then what changed in the beginning of Season 4? Why they suddenly broke up, what happened? They never explained it in the show..
I’ve got to be honest the whole of the 4th season is just a monstrosity. It’s like they completely scrapped everything that has happened leading up to this season and just decided to do what they want. The way season 3 ended villanelle was mature, rational and really grown as a person. But then the way they started season 4 it was like she had gone back to season one, if not worse, she was almost like a toddler incapable of being away from Eve. All that maturity was completely gone and we got no explanation why, we have no idea what has happened between season 3 ending and season 4 starting and are left utterly clueless because they are almost entirely different characters. Then all of a sudden villanelle decided she didn’t want Eve anymore, even though the whole of this season she had been pining for her and now Eve wants her she’s just become mature again for no reason. Then in the last episode we finally start getting back to how the characters were behaving towards the end of season 3, but then they go and kill villanelle for absolutely no reason. There was no need to kill her and even if they did really feel that was the way they wanted to end it they should have at least killed Eve as well. Because villanelle was no longer a threat to anyone and any threat she was, Eve was just as much so. You could argue that it was to resolve past issues but they had a multitude of opportunities to kill her in the past and they never did so why now, it just doesn’t make sense. The 4th season from beginning to end was just an utter shambles and even the actors knew it, you can see in the interviews that Jodie wasn’t happy with the end but she isn’t able to say anything about it because she has to support the show.
I so agree with what you say about V showing an evolution for Eve’s sake at the end of S3 only to crush it all in S4… I also think that all that drag-Jesus story was nonsense, did they want to show V having hallucinations or what? I still don’t get it 🤷🏻♀️
Adding to this if they really felt there was to much baggage with the character of Villanelle that they had to kill her then eve should have been killed as well as she knew just as much if not more information of the 12 and their past as well as Carolyn’s play in the whole unraveling of the end. It was poorly written and left with so many holes. Also so many new characters were Introduced to further the show to absolutely no where, and leave more open ends. The last season was an extreme let down to such a good series with so much more potential.
@Jon Allred says below "My only consolation is the episode of Mythbusters where they prove bullets don't travel more that 18 inches through water. They disintegrate." So, there you go. We reject Laura Neal's reality and substitute our own. Villanelle's ALIVE and she and Eve are living happily every after :)
its actually impossible for them to have ruined a show this horribly, like how tf do u ruin it, this entire season has just been so ugh and sh** and the finale was so bad omg. im just gonna live with the book ending instead lmao
I really hope Laura never lands another job as a writer. She might be talented for burger flipping or cleaning toilets, so she should explore those careers maybe.
Laura Neal: You ruined my favorite series.. The series from an average of 9 points over 3 seasons, went to 3 in yours. It is incredible that somebody pay you for this.. I wish nobody else hired you again.
The ending was not satisfying at all if Villanelle was going to die have Eve swim back down find Villanelle and die together and/or let them live and ride on together boy Laura messed this up!
they literally gave them everything and took it away for no reason in 2 seconds. v was about to live happily and with love, the thing she’s wanted for all 4 seasons. it’s what it’s all been building up to. eve is left with absolutely nothing. what was her complete character change and growth for then?? it makes no sense. WHAT WAS THE REASON?
I just randomly watched the last 2 seasons of Killing Eve. Yeah the ending was hard but it got such a visceral reaction out of me and I cried like a baby. I would call that a win
All actors understand their characters so good but Laura is absolutely wrong omg what a tragic fail for this beautiful, dark, atmospheric and stylish show 😖
The last episode was such a cliche. The fortune telling scene was the worst - every tarot reader knows Death is a positive card and yet the girl reading looked horrified. As soon as Eve got the Death card I knew the writers were dumb enough to suggest Eve was going to die which means Villanelle was the one that was going to die. Poor, poor writing.
I'm just listening to them talk and I'm like "are you geaeinv yourself"??? They actually believe they did a great job Holy fck. Even Sandra speaking about it like they have created a masterpiece (:
Its not even the ending of the show that sucked it was the whole season, I swear Villanelle and Eve were in hardly any scenes together, we only got good stuff in the last episode and then she died. The season was just Eve getting with everyone she could except villanelle, bringing a random girl into it that ended up killing one of the best characters?!, the twelve randomly dying so easily when I thought they were so powerful, and why did they have to bring religion into it, i feel like Villanelle lost all of her power, baddass and strength from her character. And common why was it just a random person who we don't even know that killed villanelle, like why wasn't it Carolyn herself or a big plot twist or maybe no death at all. The season was just a whole lot of nothing and now im gonna go cry again and re watch my favourite and good moments of them.
This is so true, I really missed Villanelles badass personality in s4, at the start of s1 she’s introduced to us and she’s made out to be a fearless, heartless, psychopathic and troublesome woman but in s4 Laura Neel rlly said no LOL like she just threw that all away and it rlly made me dislike the season a lot more. I think s4 was developed poorly
Villanelle and eve are shot and they fall to the water with several bullet wounds, but then make it up to te surface, then, they look into their eyes, barely floating, they Kiss and smile each other while their souls are coming slowing out of their eyes and bodies ... I would have appreciated a bad ending like that at least. 😢
The way she wrote that ending is atrocious, what so Villainelle completely on her own took down the twelve. I love her but the TWELVE was so powerful I just don’t see that happening. This show needed a 9th episode
This was a very disappointing rushed season like can Netflix pick this shit up and delete out the season it started off like wtf is going on! They wasted like 3 episodes and got to what everyone was hoping for just to fucking ruin it in the end.
I hated the ending I’m sorry I cried and it wasn’t happy tears. I hear they are making a spin off about Carolyn and I sure hope at the end of her season WE find out villanelle faked her death so she can kill Carolyn.
Honestly I don't think that'd even redeem it if Villanelle faked her death. The idea that the two of them were finally happy and then Villanelle decided to pretend to be fully dead and do that to Eve, just to try get to Carolyn? I don't think there's a good situation here, this has done too much damage.
you'd honestly think laura neal walked into the s4 writers room after skimming the shows wikipedia article just outside the door with how much misunderstanding/mischaracterization is present. i'm still so disappointed
So so disappointing. She utterly spoiled it. She got it completely wrong.... without even starting to comment at how sacrilegious she was in the first 2 episodes. Just spoiled the whole thing.
Somebody can explain what about with Caroline, I didn't understand her, what were her motivations or even her reasons... Anywau, I do expected Villanelle's dead, I had the impression since S3 she was in constant pain, if you asked if I like the end well I didn't know how to answer that because the series has been lost its sense since S3, Villanelle was never that psycho anymore sooo
