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Kineon Move+ Review - Can This Device Heal Most Pickleball-Related Injuries? 

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Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
0:41 Red Light Therapy Science
3:23 Move Specs
5:06 Spectrometer Results
6:02 Operating the Move+
8:26 My Move+ Experience
10:54 Results After One Month
14:12 Final Thoughts
17:41 Outro
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25 июл 2024

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@DeltAaronlines
@DeltAaronlines 16 дней назад
Would you suggest the 14mm or 16mm Kineon Move+? I’m thinking the 16mm will have a little more plow through on my knee/ankle.
@ValueRobot
@ValueRobot 16 дней назад
Purchased a unit to try to remedy my debilitating heel bursitis. After just a few weeks of recommended daily use, I can confidently say that it has really worked curb the inflammation and pain almost completely. Before I couldn't got consecutive days of play, but now I am able to string together several days. The purchase has a 30 day trial, so it was a no-brainer to test it out. So glad you recommended this.
@khpickleball
@khpickleball 13 дней назад
That was a wonderful review John. I just picked one up with your code to try out. Definitely appreciate you applying your expertise to products that can help folks enjoy the sport even more. Thank you!
@omgpineapple7608
@omgpineapple7608 16 дней назад
Thanks John, when you first mentioned the kineon during one of your kewcasts talking about how it helped your shoulder, I decided to give it a try. I had really bad knee issues after I first started getting into pickleball because I was so overweight. I'd barely be able to walk at work or at home after a long day of playing pickleball. Using kineon it's helped my recovery time immensely, I'm able to play more pickleball and walk around and live my life without being in pain barely being able to walk. It took about a month of use twice a day before I saw any results.
@johnkewpickleball
@johnkewpickleball 16 дней назад
@@omgpineapple7608 Thanks for sharing; so happy to hear it’s working for you!
@760Piper
@760Piper 16 дней назад
Picked one up after you and Eddie spoke about it a few weeks back. I’ve only had it for a week but so far so good.
@CuriousCreature
@CuriousCreature 16 дней назад
I use a panel from Mito Red Light that uses four wave lengths. It speeds up recovery dramatically. Had a calf injury and was back playing lightly in a few days after using red light, massage gun and freezer wraps. Good panels are expensive but worth it. Very important topic.
@anthonyng8800
@anthonyng8800 16 дней назад
I bought this, using for a week on various joint pains and it seems to have a benefit versus just heat therapy
@Ant02496-
@Ant02496- 14 дней назад
I like how your considering pre-pain usage. Might incorporate that myself.
@LouisBrown19
@LouisBrown19 16 дней назад
Love your shirt.😂
@dv8tion388
@dv8tion388 16 дней назад
Love the Briffidi calibration rod tripod..haha
@johnkewpickleball
@johnkewpickleball 16 дней назад
Someone knows their Briffidi gear!
@dv8tion388
@dv8tion388 10 дней назад
I bought the Kineon when u first brought it up weeks ago. Works well on acute pain.
@aaronmorgan8864
@aaronmorgan8864 16 дней назад
Thanks Kew! Have you tried it on your lower back?
@johnkewpickleball
@johnkewpickleball 16 дней назад
Not yet. Thankfully my lower back has been healthy for the past several years (knock on wood)
@austinwhite8171
@austinwhite8171 10 дней назад
John is there any world where you could test the Wilson Blaze Pro Tour 16, which is their top of line paddle they recently dropped? I've been dying to figure out how it stacks up against the other current paddles that are solid, within your paddle metrics. I am constantly checking your database to understand more about the current market of paddles. Thank you!
@user-nr6co8wk5o
@user-nr6co8wk5o 14 дней назад
anyone have any experience with the OM paddle? i wonder if john kew can get one and give some feedback as there is little to no information on this paddle
@johnkewpickleball
@johnkewpickleball 14 дней назад
I have it; just haven't hit with it yet
@ottyee4886
@ottyee4886 15 дней назад
I’ve have knee pain and after seeing a doctor and getting some X-rays, it was determined I have some osteoarthritis and possibly a partially torn meniscus. I received a cortisone injection and that didn’t help much. I asked if red light therapy would work and basically they said “red light therapy will not help my condition”. Can elaborate more on your knee and the results? Thanks
@johnkewpickleball
@johnkewpickleball 15 дней назад
It sounds like we have very similar conditions. I had meniscus and patellar tendon damage, and early arthritis. I also got a cortizone shot - and that did help for me. It got my pain down to about a 3. But the pain stayed at a 3 for months after that, and I just thought it was my new normal. And like I said in the video, the Move+ took me down to a 0, and it now hovers between a 0-1 depending on my activity levels
@QuentinWalls
@QuentinWalls 6 дней назад
So I'll start by saying I was skeptical, fully expected I may have to use the 30 day return policy and was hesitant to spend this much. Purchased using your code and I've had it for 3 days. I've noticed a considerable improvement in my tennis elbow and sore shoulder that have been bothering me for about 3 weeks. I'm not sure yet with my knees, but they do say to give it 3-4 weeks of daily use. Anyway, I'm a believer. 60 years old and I've been playing pickleball a little over a year.
@johnkewpickleball
@johnkewpickleball 6 дней назад
@@QuentinWalls Fantastic feedback - glad it’s working for you!
@gtak8703
@gtak8703 16 дней назад
I’ve used red light therapy on a broken ankle. It sped up my recovery. So when kineon came out, the portability attracted me so I ordered one. For the 1st week all 3 light units worked, 2nd week 1 unit stopped working, 3rd week a 2nd unit stopped working. I’ve since gone back to the Hooga red light therapy panel. Great idea, but individual light units are undependable.
@johnkewpickleball
@johnkewpickleball 16 дней назад
Interesting- sounds like maybe a Bluetooth issue? Did you try resyncing the pods?
@steve-94951
@steve-94951 16 дней назад
Just tried to buy and your code did not stack...
@stratelyze2095
@stratelyze2095 14 дней назад
Do you recommend buying extra straps
@johnkewpickleball
@johnkewpickleball 14 дней назад
Not unless you think you'll need it on your lower back
@HDBnB1
@HDBnB1 16 дней назад
Will this help my tennis elbow ?
@ThiccBoi23
@ThiccBoi23 16 дней назад
a thicker grip would be a first easy step to take
@86309
@86309 16 дней назад
Awesome! I want one, but im wondering if they are going to listen to your upgrade ideas and make a version 2 soon???
@timkadom1722
@timkadom1722 16 дней назад
Saw this unit discounted to 385 and still didn’t pull the trigger. Hard to pay that much for what amounts to be some lights when I don’t know is the effect is placebo or really any different from the cheaper red led light options ….
@rusty935
@rusty935 15 дней назад
does it matter if it's placebo or actually working? as long as the pain/issue goes away I don't see what the problem is
@elimintz724
@elimintz724 16 дней назад
Could you please provide links to scientific articles or studies that show the efficacy for the indications you discuss?
@jaycohen5482
@jaycohen5482 16 дней назад
Very pricey. I bought the Rojo 900 panel, 12" x 36 for $1,100 US, 5 wavelengths, 10 smart modes and floor stand. Works great.
@terogan
@terogan 15 дней назад
Seems their price is all over the place. Got it for $346 with your code not quite two weeks ago. I do have some ideas on a possibly better strapping system.
@johnkewpickleball
@johnkewpickleball 15 дней назад
Are you getting good results from it?
@terogan
@terogan 15 дней назад
@@johnkewpickleball not the rapid change you saw on certain parts. Mostly using it on my ankle and foot though. Wife said it’s helping some calf pain from sciatica. Just went up to 15” and two times/day after watching this video. Side note: I see Zane Navratil is talking about this unit on Instagram and RU-vid.
@terogan
@terogan День назад
Not quite as quickly as some of your results.
@pats300zx
@pats300zx 16 дней назад
Big fan of RLT. Great review. How long are your sessions on the body parts ?
@johnkewpickleball
@johnkewpickleball 16 дней назад
15 minutes per body part, up to 2X per day
@DXfan105
@DXfan105 16 дней назад
There are similar devices on Amazon with the same technical specs incl. the wave length ranges except that they cost about 10 times less. Any reason I should pay that much?
@johnkewpickleball
@johnkewpickleball 16 дней назад
Do they have lasers or just LEDs?
@christophepaquot3562
@christophepaquot3562 3 дня назад
@@johnkewpickleball Do the lasers really make a big difference? LEDs are just wider spectrum and perhaps lower power, altho class 1 lasers are prob not that powerful either.
@christophepaquot3562
@christophepaquot3562 3 дня назад
@@johnkewpickleball One study mentions "One question that has not yet been conclusively answered is whether there is any advantage to using coherent laser light over non-coherent LED light" at www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4126803/
@jylarouche1151
@jylarouche1151 15 дней назад
I didn’t like their web site, look kind of fishy
@johnkewpickleball
@johnkewpickleball 15 дней назад
I agree about the website. I'm not a fan of its design because it seems too sales-ey. I'd like to see it overhauled to make it do justice to the objective, science-based evidence
@zachcarmichael699
@zachcarmichael699 16 дней назад
Stick to paddle reviews -- you excel at that. These product endorsements just seem like sales pitches.
@johnkewpickleball
@johnkewpickleball 16 дней назад
Maybe this topic isn't your thing, but this was an honest review, not an endorsement. There's a lot of information in here, and I realize you probably didn't watch it all, but I made recommendations for improvements and talked about where it wasn't as effective
@86309
@86309 16 дней назад
I totally disagree, This is totally related to Pickleball and our aging bodies. I sincerely appreciate Johns efforts and testimonials. There are lots of us that would not have known about this and he brought it to light for the community. I thank him.
@zachcarmichael699
@zachcarmichael699 10 дней назад
@@johnkewpickleball An honest review wouldn't include an affiliate code. Even if it is honest, it just doesn't give that impression. Love your other content though, you're the best pickleball tech reviewer out there.
@ThiccBoi23
@ThiccBoi23 16 дней назад
No. No it cannot.
@aaronmorgan8864
@aaronmorgan8864 16 дней назад
?
@ThiccBoi23
@ThiccBoi23 16 дней назад
@@aaronmorgan8864 replying to the title of the vid
@elimintz724
@elimintz724 16 дней назад
John, love your paddle reviews. Please don't do this. The gold standard to determine efficacy of any treatment is a double blinded trial. This means neither the patients nor the people monitoring or administering the remedy know if they have a real device or a placebo. In this case that would be a device that looks exactly the same but the energy emitted is much lower, except that the light looks the same intensity as the real device. Until the results of such a trial are available, it is not fair to say that this device works.
@johnkewpickleball
@johnkewpickleball 16 дней назад
Appreciate your feedback. Have you looked into this much? Because there are many placebo-controlled, double-blinded studies on the efficacy of red light therapy.
@elimintz724
@elimintz724 16 дней назад
@@johnkewpickleball would you mind linking to a study or scientific paper that you think best highlights the efficacy for the indications you discuss? I would be happy to change my mind. I searched pubmed and couldn't find one, but do not claim my search was comprehensive
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