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Kingdom Hearts HD 2.5 - What Needs to be Fixed? 

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@Truttle
@Truttle 9 лет назад
Your continuing lack of a pretentious dubstep-backed intro animation is much appreciated.
@MartenDE
@MartenDE 7 лет назад
Ah so you know the gamers joint as well?
@soulking2017
@soulking2017 6 лет назад
**coughcoughgamer’sjointcoughcough**
@wisey7417
@wisey7417 5 лет назад
Still so accurate
@stevenhesson1594
@stevenhesson1594 5 лет назад
The reason why I don't like that guys channel.
@wisey7417
@wisey7417 5 лет назад
Steven Hesson really? That’s the only reason? You’re a more kind man than I.
@alphablazer9750
@alphablazer9750 9 лет назад
PS2 Master Race
@alphablazer9750
@alphablazer9750 9 лет назад
(͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@Ay-xq7mj
@Ay-xq7mj 8 лет назад
+Alpha Blazer You mean PCSX2 master race.
@aultinbarltino
@aultinbarltino 8 лет назад
+KingHoneyBadger pcsx2 is pretty much the same as a regular ps2, without backwards compatibility, but can play any region game as long as you have a BIOS file for that region. however, PCSX2 does require a particularly powerful pc, as emulation is pretty costly on pc performance. i used to run kh2fm with the default settings on a Pentium 4 about a year ago, and performance was pretty bad.
@hirosese
@hirosese 8 лет назад
+Tyler Garrett Dude you're just too f-in lazy
@hirosese
@hirosese 8 лет назад
***** What settings are you actually changing. You apply settings once, and you're done. most of the time you don't need to change shit other than if yoy're running more than 2 cores and then you'd have to change the affinity to 2
@ImmaNort
@ImmaNort 9 лет назад
A quote I liked from Xemnas is gone. Xemnas: Riku, are you not jealous of Sora? Also, the drive time loading and Xemnas reaction command being bad screwed me plenty of times on Critical mode.
@Mors
@Mors 9 лет назад
I managed to accidentally coax it out of him in 2.5 JP just once but have been unsuccessful in getting him to taunt either of them during that fight since.
@Odinfrost
@Odinfrost 9 лет назад
Imma Xehanort Weird, because I've gotten both of them on my very first fight against him which really made me happy because on my KH2 copy HE NEVER SAYS THEM! I think ive heard the riku one twice on my original copy and i have done that fight i don't know how many times...
@TonicSpirits
@TonicSpirits 9 лет назад
Imma Xehanort I also remember in the third part of the Xemnas fight (when you fight him in the head of the Nobody Dragon) that after you do the skyscraper RC the second time, he doesn't give an angry yell. I liked hearing that 'cause it really made me feel like I was pressuring him and giving him a real fight. I still loved playing 2.5 HD English the whole way through, but I can't deny that everything mentioned by Bizkit has bothered me at one point or another.
@gamerprince-tl5hg
@gamerprince-tl5hg 8 лет назад
+Imma Xehanort Is that quote from DDD? That's the only one I haven't played and I don't remember that quote
@ImmaNort
@ImmaNort 8 лет назад
gamerprince1999 No, it's from KH2. Why else would I bring it up?
@innenkosnarukami2450
@innenkosnarukami2450 9 лет назад
I have come to love these simple, direct, and descriptive videos.
@anthonyleachman3541
@anthonyleachman3541 Год назад
Naruto strikers shinobi & dbxv 🎉
@serjangelo
@serjangelo 9 лет назад
Regarding the point of Square not patching their HD re-releases - actually they did just patched Type-0 HD, removing its heavy blur and fixing the camera a bit. It was a small patch, but they made it, because people complained. I wonder where should we share this video for Square to notice it though.
@sushiSlayr
@sushiSlayr 8 лет назад
+Serj Angelo The heavy blur isn't removed; it's optional. Additionally, it doesn't affect the game's performance. Type-0 didn't suffer from performance issues, but the rest of the HD remasters do, and Square Enix doesn't want to fix that because it's much more work than fixing camera controls and motion blur. Let's not forget that Type-0 is a PS4 game, a console with a ton of support as of now. The PS3 will be discontinuing soon, so it's pointless to patch games on PS3.
@xXLunatikxXlul
@xXLunatikxXlul 5 лет назад
I guess they never did. Square really need to be more transparent with their customers lol
@Blazekid1906
@Blazekid1906 9 лет назад
Kh2/Fm Saix DM: "All shall be lost to YOU!!!" Sephiroth (Second Phase): "Know your place" Saix(basic attack): "DUH, DUH, BE GONE!" Phil:" Get Up on the Hydras' Back!" Xaldin: *Teleports* "Sora!" Jafar:"Japalachuafacha" Saix(Basic Attack): "RUH,RUH,RUH,RUH, MOVE ASIDE!" Saix(Basic Attack)"AERAAAAGHHHHH" Xigbar(DM):"Lets see how you dance" Kh2.5ReMiX Saix DM:"........" *Starts attacking* Sephiroth(Second Phase): "............" *Summons dark orbs* Saix(basic attack):"......., Duh,.....GONE!" Phil:"............" *Exclaiming silently* Xaldin:*Teleports* ".......!" Jafar:"Japala............" Saix(basic attack): "RUH,..........,...........,...........,..........!" Saix(Basic attack) "............................" XIGBAR:"Lets See how.............." 2.5 needs help
@Bizkit047
@Bizkit047 9 лет назад
Dante Zeigler Good compilation, I probably could have made over a 10 minute video displaying all the audio problems alone lmao
@xNINJAxLUMPIAx
@xNINJAxLUMPIAx 9 лет назад
I was wondering why Phil doesn't say anything, and I thought it was because they decided to remove the audio for some reason lol
@HoennAngel
@HoennAngel 9 лет назад
Dante Zeigler Are the Saix ones for DF or normal fight? Cos I could hear him fine in my copy in all the data fights but I don't recall the story fight...
@ActuallyReid
@ActuallyReid 9 лет назад
Are you saying you like Phil's constant screaming?
@Mors
@Mors 9 лет назад
The one I really miss is during armour Xemnas 2 fight in final bosses. After doing the building RC and breaking the shield, then doing snowflake skip, Xemnas usually lets out one of those long drawn out roars as you dodge and glide towards him. Completely gone from 2.5 unless he was taunting Riku or Sora just before the RC, in which case it does play for some reason.
@jimpachi98
@jimpachi98 8 лет назад
I thought I was crazy when I fought Xemnas on my 2.5 critical run. I remembered just spamming triangle when I was a kid. And when I was younger, I could barely beat the game in standard (I sucked) so it blew my mind that the final boss was so much harder than before.
@keybladewielder230
@keybladewielder230 9 лет назад
This is exactly what Square needs to view and work upon
@Escasnore
@Escasnore 9 лет назад
I KNEW the final Xemnas fight wasn't that hard in the original!! Thought I was going crazy when I couldn't chain the reaction commands together during my 2.5 playthrough. I didn't notice the load times to be honest, but I can understand the frustration.
@xNINJAxLUMPIAx
@xNINJAxLUMPIAx 9 лет назад
Final Xemnas was so frustrating at LVL 1 because of the RC issue, but I eventually beat him
@PrimalOnSlaught
@PrimalOnSlaught 9 лет назад
Fuck yeah! I was wondering why the fuck it was so hard to dodge the strands!
@guilaumecordoba-millan9421
@guilaumecordoba-millan9421 9 лет назад
xNINJAxLUMPIAx Don't tell me !!! I can't beat his data Battle at LV1 because of that, my god in the original KH2 this was one of my favorite Boss Battle but they completely fucked up here.
@Xolcin
@Xolcin 9 лет назад
I had the same experience, I was playing on Proud Mode and was fairly high leveled. I died many times that I got the timing down for the Reaction Commands but they didn't always appear
@MistaHahn117
@MistaHahn117 7 лет назад
Escasnored That's exactly how I felt. I thought my memory was failing about not taking a single hit when I would replay that Final Xemnas fight on PS2 when I first played 2.5 (it had been a good 3 years at least that I hadn't played KH2 due to a broken PS2). Then I found out it was a common bug in the port that people experienced. It's absolutely ridiculous that they actually considered that mess ready for full release.
@InfamousMustelid
@InfamousMustelid 9 лет назад
Thank you for this video! Hopefuly Square sees it.
@aultinbarltino
@aultinbarltino 8 лет назад
+MikachuTuhonen agreed. an excellent game such as KH2FM doesn't deserve such a terrible port :/ although, during my playthrough, it never crashed once for me, so maybe i was lucky x) one glitch i did pull off was somehow getting the battle music and the out of battle music to play simultaneously. it was during the mushroom heartless minigame in Christmas Town.
@xnomura95x
@xnomura95x 9 лет назад
They should make a patch and fix theese problems on the PS3 version first and then think about a PS4 version
@gardenoir6176
@gardenoir6176 9 лет назад
xnomura95x why? What is the point of fixing a version if they're going to release a new one. If they can, they'll try and sell the fixes on the newest system. Square has no interest investing time and money into what they obvious consider "pointless fixes" because they obviously don't understand these things.
@xnomura95x
@xnomura95x 9 лет назад
Garde Noir Well they should do this for the gamers that still play the PS3 version. If I buy a game I want it without bugs and issues.
@rocklobster4942
@rocklobster4942 9 лет назад
+xnomura95x i think a install option like they did in bayonetta ps3 would work
@ThePreciseClimber
@ThePreciseClimber 8 лет назад
@Grade > why? What is the point of fixing a version if they're going to release a new one. Well, if they don't give a fuck about their customers, then I guess there really *is* no point.
@xXLunatikxXlul
@xXLunatikxXlul 6 лет назад
Garde Noir Why? Because customers paid for a product they don't expect to be glitched and bugged to the tits, that's why.
@perkypears
@perkypears 9 лет назад
Anyway though, when I fought Sephiroth I was thinking "that flash step sounds like it has a lot less hits than I remember?" But I was right the audio isn't too big of a deal but having some of those more consistent ones back would be nice like man hearing it hit that many times sounds a lot scarier than a few slower ones
@Nukle0n
@Nukle0n 9 лет назад
Also don't forget the annoying part of these games not being available digitally because of Hikaru Utada's dumb contract that forbids her songs from being distributed digitally.
@sushiSlayr
@sushiSlayr 9 лет назад
That is probably why 2.5 won't be on PS4 as it seems like every PS4 game is available for download. Which begs the question: will we not hear the theme song in KH3?
@Kingdom850
@Kingdom850 9 лет назад
+I'm Nori That's dumb. They could just release the game normally, who cares about a digital release?
@sushiSlayr
@sushiSlayr 9 лет назад
That's something to consider when releasing games for the PS4. Shuhei Yoshida of SCE confirmed all PS4 games be available for digital download and will enforce such a policy like they do with the Vita, so that will become an obstacle for Square Enix to publish Kingdom Hearts III or even Kingdom Hearts 2.8 for that very platform because Utada is against her content being digitally distributed.
@Kingdom850
@Kingdom850 9 лет назад
+I'm Nori 2.8? But DDD used orchestrated Simple and Clean. That still counts?
@sushiSlayr
@sushiSlayr 9 лет назад
Kingdom080500 Utada is still given credit for the theme song as a whole. That would explain Dream Drop Distance not being available digitally.
@dnshshlidrs
@dnshshlidrs 9 лет назад
SQUARE, ARE YOU WATCHING!?
@Lucasofyugioh
@Lucasofyugioh 9 лет назад
I really don't get how they could just let all of these bugs slide. I also don't get how the ps2 loaded the game perfectly fine but the ps3 can't.
@darklink2nd
@darklink2nd 9 лет назад
Amanda Miller My guess is because of BBS and the movie sharing the space with FM
@CaptainCJ97
@CaptainCJ97 9 лет назад
Rush i guess
@joeshadowman
@joeshadowman 9 лет назад
+Amanda Miller Honesty, the PS3's operating system just sucks.
@Kingdom850
@Kingdom850 9 лет назад
+joeshadowman Bullshit. It's obvious that this port was rushed. Look at other remastered games for the PS3 like the Ratchet and Clank collection, Jak and Daxter collection, Tomb Raider collection and more.
@joeshadowman
@joeshadowman 9 лет назад
Kingdom080500 Look, I'm not saying that it isn't the fault of Square, I was just explaining why it didn't work. And it's a well know fact that the PS3's operating system sucks. Square didn't know how to use it, but the games you mention are made by in house developers. They've been working with the PS3 the most. They would know how to fix the bugs. Square didn't bother to care, so it ended up like that.
@nerdychocobo
@nerdychocobo 8 лет назад
My game doesn't lag this bad. I'm either very lucky or the European version is better optimised for some reason
@arron4112
@arron4112 8 лет назад
One of my big complaints is to the music at the final Xemnas battle starting too late killing the mood. In the original game, right after he says "yours" the song starts. In the 2.5 version however; it starts 3 seconds after he says "yours" which completely kills the mood.
@BlackhawkXIII
@BlackhawkXIII 8 лет назад
+TrollForce I totally agree with you. I think there were a few other moments where the music didn't start on cue and it definitely affected the mood of the scene. These are tiny details, but they can influence the overall feeling of the game.
@Kingdom850
@Kingdom850 8 лет назад
I think you mean the data fight when you skip the cutscene of him spawning in. Three seconds after saying "Anger and hate..are supreme." the music starts.
@BlackhawkXIII
@BlackhawkXIII 8 лет назад
+Kingdom080500 Nah, the song timing is actually about 2 seconds off in the cutscene. If you look up the cutscene right before final Xemnas, and compare between 2.5 and 2, the difference is definitely there. Again, these are very small, seemingly insignificant details, but to someone who played that fight literally hundreds of times as a kid and knew all of the lines and cues, it immediately stands out.
@Kingdom850
@Kingdom850 8 лет назад
Emmitt Smith Ohhhh, I see.
@vindifference
@vindifference 7 лет назад
I'm glad someone pointed this out. My god that was the biggest mood killer. As soon as he said "yours" on PS2, the beat dropped and shiz got real. Now it's so delayed and unimpactful.
@plz2805
@plz2805 9 лет назад
Good Vid Biz, let's hope they errect these flaws x
@matra11ramaks
@matra11ramaks 9 лет назад
hacked console and HDD(pal ps3 slim, ntsc game) compared to disc: 1) Area load times are much shorter but still ~1-2 seconds longer than ps2 2) Missing sound bits are still missing 3) Final xemnas RC fails to appear ~1-3 times during full attack 4) Drive forms load much faster than normally but pause buffer is recommended 5) Pre fight freeze only happened on cerberus (10 playthroughs) and it's barely noticable (few frames) 6) Xemnas 1 crash still exists 7) No random deaths/damage (so far) 8) BBS command styles load instantly(up to 0.25 seconds load) 9) BBS areas load much faster
@Bizkit047
@Bizkit047 9 лет назад
matra11ramaks Sweet, thanks for all the info and testing! It's sad to know that some of the issues in this video could still persist on PS4 even with data install. Let's hope they see this video even more then. Your post confirms that Final Xemnas & missing sound effects are NOT tied to load times being too long.
@matra11ramaks
@matra11ramaks 9 лет назад
Bizkit047 Final Xemnas bug could still be from load times, because while it still fails the RC it isn't as often as "regular" game . Unfortunately i don't have SSD to check if it would still be the case
@Bizkit047
@Bizkit047 9 лет назад
matra11ramaks Unless I misread, you said it fails to appear 1-3 times during full attack, that's roughly the same as normal, or did you mean something else?
@matra11ramaks
@matra11ramaks 9 лет назад
at worst 3 times(i guess i had crap on HDD), usually fails once
@MosessOfToday
@MosessOfToday 9 лет назад
It's nice to know that the stutters at the start of AS Larxene and others are normal.
@jaddal2215
@jaddal2215 3 года назад
After 6 years KH 1.5 and 2.5 Remix is released on Epic Games for Windows PC and they really delivered. -Mechanics are much better, drive works basically instantaneously as it should. -Game runs very well as it has never crashed through my playthroughs. Load times are much quicker, no final Xemnas glitch ever. -Sound effects are flawless in my experience of approx. 600+ hours played -Thank the lord there are soft resets without save points required. Glad I got back into the Kingdom Hearts franchise literally months after it released on Epic Games
@treddox5880
@treddox5880 Год назад
Thanks for your comment. I was wondering how many of these coaches are fixed nowadays. I’m glad that you newcomers didn’t have to deal with any of this. Every year goes by and it gets easier and easier to get into Kingdom Hearts. So SE are doing something right.
@devong1838
@devong1838 8 лет назад
Can we just talk about how unacceptable it is that the PS3 has a "Game Data Utility" feature which is fucking awesome and 2.5 just refuses to use it?
@KeybladeWielderXV
@KeybladeWielderXV 8 лет назад
I know! BBS uses it, why not KH2?
@TheTraveler980
@TheTraveler980 8 лет назад
What is that supposed to do?
@KeybladeWielderXV
@KeybladeWielderXV 8 лет назад
***** The problem with KH2 is that the save system is made up of a single save file. Lose that and EVERY SINGLE ONE of your saves made in KH2 is lost. In BBS, you can create a save file and multiple backup files, so if you accidentally delete/corrupt say, a save of Aqua's story, you can just use a backup save.
@TheTraveler980
@TheTraveler980 8 лет назад
KeybladeWielderXV Seriously? And KH 2.5 lacked this? What... the hell.
@KeybladeWielderXV
@KeybladeWielderXV 8 лет назад
whilst i like the nostalgia of playing the PS2 game, i feel its a huge risk of losing saves. 1.5 and ReCOM also suffered from this issue
@whocares1477
@whocares1477 7 лет назад
The load times look like a headache thank god ps4 version gets rid of that shit
@whocares1477
@whocares1477 7 лет назад
The only problem that I found similar in ps3 and ps4 us version is that second xemnas fight reaction being 50/50 but besides that games flawless imo
@tootsie_
@tootsie_ 3 года назад
Hello, I am from the future. In the PC version, from my experience, the load times are instant for drives and summons, and pretty much instant after death. I haven't tested every crash, but Experiment doesn't crash occasionally for me anymore.
@MythicalAlien
@MythicalAlien 8 лет назад
I THOUGHT I WAS THE OLNY ONE WHO NOTICED SOUND EFFECTS! Thank YOU! Also when maleficent is next to the cornerstone of light in Disney castle talking to queen mini and the gang there is no evil music. But there was in original KHFM. :(
@djdidiz6327
@djdidiz6327 3 года назад
Here before this gets recommended to everyone
@b1acksteve
@b1acksteve 9 лет назад
Why did I watch this? When it comes to glitches in game I never have them happen to me till I hear about them. Did not know about crashes now I bet the next time I play the game I will continuously get them. P.S. good vid like always
@xvariable
@xvariable 9 лет назад
Not sure if anyone else noted this, but I had an experience where you can create lag pauses by activating a Drive form while enemies load up. During a practice playthrough in CoR in the last Nobody mob fight, i used a drive into Final to finish off a Dragoon to start the next wave, but since both the drive and the enemies were loading at the same time, it created a lag pause. Most likely ENG 2.5 problem, since JP 2.5 lacks the lag pauses. This could explain why Riku summit fight also lag pauses when loading a Drive, since Rapid Thrusters are being loaded in at the same time.
@TheGreatBackUpVIDEOS
@TheGreatBackUpVIDEOS 2 года назад
I have been looking for this video for years! I'd like to thank you for this informative video years later.
@ColeMeCrazy
@ColeMeCrazy 3 года назад
8:29 The Xigbar gun sounds, they were back to normal on the PS4 version. On the PC version, it sounds like incomplete like in the PS3 version. Why?
@bluroguevyse08
@bluroguevyse08 9 лет назад
You can dodge Larxene's (AS) Desperation Move by simply popping Valor Form, I shit you not. Pop it right as she starts, and it takes so long that she burns through the whole move before your form loads. Kind of awesome actually. Makes it dodgeable before you get Dodge Roll or a Quick Run with invincibility frames.
@sleepypillow679
@sleepypillow679 9 лет назад
Well, that's one benefit. However, the form might just load too quickly and you might die in the middle of the DM.
@bluroguevyse08
@bluroguevyse08 9 лет назад
I've done it several times recently. It's an observation. It works. The form does not load too quickly, and you do not die in the middle of the DM.
@Bizkit047
@Bizkit047 9 лет назад
bluroguevyse08 If you used that same form earlier in the fight, you'd die instantly cuz it keeps it in memory. Also, that idea only works in English 2.5. In JP 2.5 you'd get hit that way, since forms load slightly faster there. Also, using drive load times on purpose as a way to dodge things is a bad idea due to sometimes the load times for them are variable and can be faster or slower than you expect, which can randomly put you in terrible situations
@bluroguevyse08
@bluroguevyse08 9 лет назад
I don't import, so I had to wait until English came out (I'm American) (also, it was amazing to finally play this game after watching you play it all these years). As far as Larxene AS, it was reliable. In my extensive and recent experience with English 2.5, sometimes the form you used earlier still takes the same amount of time to load in the exact same fight (which surprised the shit out of me the first time it happened). I have no idea what factors determine this. Perhaps using another form and then using the first one again, but it would need to be tested. In this case, I don't remember if it consistently loaded slow or not, but since I had two forms (Valor and Wisdom), I could Valor the first time and then Wisdom the 2nd (first healing Doland if need be ;). So as long as you kill her in 2 DMs or less, it won't matter and you never need to test it at all. Anyway, when Larxene AS appeared in my Lvl1 CM playthrough, I didn't want to wait until Twilight Town to fight her (returning to TT gets you Limit form, which allows sufficient form leveling to gain Invincibility Frame growth abilities, as I'm sure you know), so the only option for dodging her DM at this point in the game was this strategy I came up with. I could still easily dodge it via [Dodge Roll --> Quick Run] on repeat when I fought her Data later (yeah, you can Glide, but it feels kind of cheap and I'm sure I don't need to justify 'restricted Org fights' to you; restricting can be very satisfying and fun). Side note: Pulling off the Genie Final --> Reflega, Vicinity Break, Explosion strat against Larxene is incredibly satisfying. Whoever came up with that is goddamn genius. Saw it in your WR vid and was incredulous. Thanks for posting sick vids, dude.
@UltimaKeyMaster
@UltimaKeyMaster 9 лет назад
Man, the Xemnas stuff especially just makes me wonder what idiot playtested this port. How do you not see that the SINGLE Drive Form you're allowed to use during Xemnas 1 doesn't work, along with what's supposed to happen during *the very first attack* of Final Xemnas!
@lukamegru1537
@lukamegru1537 4 года назад
PSA:The loading time issues are completely fixed if you play this game on RPCS3
@UltimaKeyMaster
@UltimaKeyMaster 9 лет назад
Wow, good thing I finally looked back at this video after playing 2.5FM for myself. I'll need that pause buffer for Drives.
@ninjasniperproductions4476
@ninjasniperproductions4476 5 лет назад
This was the sole reason why I play the original PS2 release of KH2, it runs better and it plays to it's full intended potential. But at least I get to see Xigbar's cool sniper gun in the 2.5 release, but that'd mean playing the whole broken game again.
@gangstapuppy340
@gangstapuppy340 8 лет назад
i have this problem where kingdom hearts 2 final mix wont load my save i can load other games and my other KH2 FM saves but whenever i try to load this one save it just sends me back to the game selection menu
@nayemrahman9987
@nayemrahman9987 9 лет назад
0:09 - 0:16 WAIT WHAT !? Ohhh yes ! I hope square enix makes a 3rd remake of KH2. And in my opinion of 2.5 theres nothing much wrong with it besides one thing. They shouldn't replaced roxas' voice from his original tovm ventus'. Sure roxas is the nobody of sora and has the appearance of ventus since ventus is apart of sora's heart but you cant ruin a classic in KH2. Also, i have no idea why square enix removed some of the best sound effects such as the absent soulliette battle cries and quotes in the 2.5 remix. In the original KH2 the story bosses (the orgisation members) all died with quotes at the. Saix: "if i had a heart" Xigbar: "I lost ? Me ?!" Xemnas: "Curses ... keyblade" Luxord: "You played the game quiet well" Whereas, all the absent souliette boss dont have battle quotes during the battle of once defeated. Other than sound effects. Drive loads times and the xemnas glitch wasnt a problem since ive watched ***** data org battle guide and it helps a lot.
@nayemrahman9987
@nayemrahman9987 9 лет назад
***** not during cutscenes. I mean when you go through the beginning of the game he uses ventus' voice not his original voice.
@nayemrahman9987
@nayemrahman9987 9 лет назад
Yeah thats the one im reffering to for roxas, the 2.5 remix doesnt have the orginal voice of roxas, they replaced it with ventus'. As for the absent silhouette the orginal japnese version the voices and battle quotes were removed aswell.
@nayemrahman9987
@nayemrahman9987 9 лет назад
***** ohh i completely forgot about 358/2 days but yeah i guess that makes sense. Overally my opinion is that roxas' old battle cries were a lot more i would say more like roxas and better. But in terms of kingdom hearts logic: yeah roxas has the appearance of ventus since ventus a piece of soras heart but roxas is his own person; he deserves his old battle cry back, dont know why square changed it :/
@Joseponypants
@Joseponypants 9 лет назад
I didn't even realize that slow loading time caused the final Xemnas fight throw to be broken as hell. I kept getting killed by that and I had no idea why because I was using the reaction commands properly. That's insane.
@sushiSlayr
@sushiSlayr 9 лет назад
It's not confirmed that load times were the cause of the Xemnas Fight being glitched, but it's a valid theory since everything else in the game loads slower then before.
@darkrai455
@darkrai455 9 лет назад
Hey Biz this is Darkrai48 from the streams just wanted to say great video and I 100% agree they should fix these problems. Even though I have 100% the Jiminy Journal on english 2.5 I do really get bugged by its problems so I hope Square will fix them so I can truly enjoy my favorite game. Thanks for the video cant wait to see more videos and streams.
@Clavitz1
@Clavitz1 9 лет назад
In regards to the sound issue, I wouldn't say it's minor. It can effect gameplay on a personal level. When you hear a specific sound you can read the next move if you don't catch it with your eye. At least that's how it is for me. Not really something that needs to be fixed but should be added. Control mapping or the option to use the japanese controls in the english version.
@connermoore03
@connermoore03 8 лет назад
The only issue I have is that when I'm in the middle of the game, the screen beeps and then it says loading trophy data or something like that, and then it takes me right back to select a game.
@C4DNerd
@C4DNerd 8 лет назад
It's tough when you have the exact same team that's working on KH3 have to work on these HD remasters on the side. They really just should have gotten a new team altogether to work on them.
@Kingdom850
@Kingdom850 8 лет назад
That is a completely dumb idea, especially when they realized how KH1 and 2 are such good games while making these ports, which helped out greatly in KH3's development.
@Bobsican
@Bobsican 5 лет назад
@@Kingdom850 Well, not too much really, sadly.
@OneSu56
@OneSu56 9 лет назад
After seeing the video, i realised that the sound effects are missing, thank you for that :) And I also have to say, it somehow was better on the PS2, because like you said, the loading times are much longer than that, and I notice an input delay on big TVs(On the PS3 Version). I didn´t try that with the PS2, but now I have to say, it´s not as good as I thought. Thanks Bizkit :D
@bubbleteacore
@bubbleteacore 7 лет назад
Lol I like how you had to point out the load time at the end xD.
@TheVenXIII
@TheVenXIII 9 лет назад
My KH2FM keeps crashing and takes me back to the game select screen. It happens when I try to fight Terra or when I load a save file or go to a different room BBS works fine.
@yungnick55
@yungnick55 9 лет назад
@Tacoyaki96
@Tacoyaki96 9 лет назад
+TheVenXIII The same thing happens to me when farming for drive orbs in the cavern of rememberence during screen transitions, and only there. Oddly enough, this only happened in my critical run and not on standard difficulty.
@UltimaKeyMaster
@UltimaKeyMaster 8 лет назад
It occasionally did this during my 2FM playthrough, but it got insanely bad by TWNTW. Tried to leave the place...crash. Tried to fight Lexaeus...crash. BEAT Lexaeus after a long fight...CRASH. After beating the game and eventually wanting to do Data Org, it just crashed to the select screen every time now.
@icecatti
@icecatti 7 лет назад
Wow man, having reached the end of my playthrough of the PS4 port, I'm so glad to not have come across these issues. Loading in particular seems to be in a really good state and I was impressed by that even without knowing it was shitty in PS3. I'm frankly glad I skipped this title for PS3.
@Litten-sb7eg
@Litten-sb7eg Год назад
Yeah can confirm that the PS4 fixed these problems.
@Bizkit047
@Bizkit047 Год назад
Most of them were fixed with day 1 English patch (JP version had to wait to get the fixes.) Sound issue still persists, and PS4 version introduces 60fps bugs, though they fixed some of those now too.
@miguelspitz
@miguelspitz 11 месяцев назад
Is the PC port better or does it faces the same issues of the ps4?@@Bizkit047
@dalewilson2741
@dalewilson2741 10 месяцев назад
@@miguelspitz PC version has same bugs as PS4. Xemnas RC still fucked, and now we have 120fps bugs too.
@ShogunGin0
@ShogunGin0 7 лет назад
Question about the 2.5 collection, since I've never had a PSP or PS3 before. How well does Birth By Sleep fare in comparison? Does it crash a lot or suffer from a number of bugs? Otherwise, I'm fine with English patches of Final Mix 1 and 2, and the standard RE: Chain of Memories games for PS2. If Birth By Sleep HD is bugged, I don't really have a reason to want the collection on PS3.
@lisaleepersonal
@lisaleepersonal 9 лет назад
I have a quick question. When I was playing KH2.5, I somehow managed to bypass a cutscene twice in the first visit to Tron's world in the I/O Tower. First time it happened, I crashed the game trying to go back to Hollow Bastion. Second time, I didn't crash (and the game wouldn't let me go back to Hollow Bastion) and attempting to leave the area let cutscene played. Could that be attributed to load times or something else?
@Bizkit047
@Bizkit047 9 лет назад
Lisa Lee I think what you did was what Sonicshadowsilver2 tested in the past, it's a crash that I believe happens in all KH2's, you're not supposed to skip those cutscenes, so if you do it confuses the game.
@lisaleepersonal
@lisaleepersonal 9 лет назад
Bizkit047 I see. Thank you for explaining. It was my first time encountering it, and I didn't see anything on it when I looked if anyone else experienced it.
@Sonicshadowsilver2
@Sonicshadowsilver2 9 лет назад
Bizkit047 Yeah, examining the computer when you Quick Run past the cutscene trigger in the 1st visit of Space Paranoids before Hostile Program crashes in all versions.
@TheAlmostGothic
@TheAlmostGothic 8 лет назад
On the load time thing for drive forms it actually saved me and gave me my first win against lingering will
@alchemike6346
@alchemike6346 8 лет назад
well there you go,we have our ps4 announcement.Lets hope they will fix averything.
@CocoHikari583
@CocoHikari583 8 лет назад
i have experienced a glitch in timeless river the battle and field theme are playing at the same time has anybody else experienced this?
@racenator1730
@racenator1730 8 лет назад
I had that in TWTNW
@RileySkye100
@RileySkye100 8 лет назад
I did the same exact thing with the first Xemnas fight on my PS3 and not once did it ever crash on me.
@RicardoCon94
@RicardoCon94 9 лет назад
I noticed some sounds not playing but I have not experienced a single crash or freezing before a battle before in KH2FM in English. Im currently playing the game in Japanese now so idk whats up.
@WowMiet
@WowMiet 9 лет назад
Srsly! The loading times are RIDICULOUS! No need to hold back on that one!!! Way to go with such feedback! :) Thumbs up.
@kddzero0624
@kddzero0624 8 лет назад
I have a question. Would anyone recommend getting 2.5 to someone who hasn't played BBS and not much of KH 2?
@zul2788
@zul2788 8 лет назад
yes bbs is one of the main title and one of the best
@boots1622fan
@boots1622fan 5 лет назад
unrelated kinda, but i hate how in re:com on ps4, there's this weird lag after fights where sora just. stands there for a good 5 seconds before the game realizes that the fight's over. ooooof. square, please. it's not every fight either just totally random?
@Drojanx
@Drojanx 9 лет назад
I am so glad that I'm not the only one who noticed the Xemnas RC fails.
@tnuhenaj3752
@tnuhenaj3752 9 лет назад
Bizkit im not sure what your stance is on giving opinions on games that are yet to come out but squareenix E3 played a few hours ago and there was a decent amount of gameplay for KH3 in it. Obviously you can't give the final judgement now but from what there is (you can already find the E3 gameplay on youtube if you missed it) what do you think of the game so far? And are you going to be trying to come up with strats along with other guys with the intent to speed run it later like the first 2 games. Also what would you like to see in KH3 even just as a personal preference not necessarily as a speedrunner and what do you think would definitely be a bad decision to add in the new game?
@TheTj334
@TheTj334 9 лет назад
Very good video Biz!
@Yoshi278
@Yoshi278 7 лет назад
Did they fix these for the ps4? I went from ps2 to ps4 and the fps and graphics are amazing but have noticed some weird changes
@Yoshi278
@Yoshi278 7 лет назад
also the ps4 load times are great
@slycrino1396
@slycrino1396 9 лет назад
I didn't realize I was the only one with problems in the xemnas final fight, glad to know it wasn't just me not tapping fast enough
@KaliTakumi
@KaliTakumi 7 лет назад
Biz, after playing 2.5 on ps4, how much of this is fixed?
@HashClash
@HashClash 7 лет назад
The only thing that really got fixed was issues related to load times.
@MinakoAino2112
@MinakoAino2112 9 лет назад
Im really glad other people are running into problems and its not just me im literally stuck and can't continue in the game because it freezes during a cutscene every time so I doubt i will even be able to finish the game which is sad because this game was on of my favorites when i was younger.
@kleboldklesold
@kleboldklesold 8 лет назад
For some reason my game returns to the game select screen. Only during loading in other worlds. Anyone have this same issue?
@xNINJAxLUMPIAx
@xNINJAxLUMPIAx 9 лет назад
I thought I was the only one who ran into that crash at Xemnas 1, but geez this game isn't really optimized for PS3. If only Square allowed for a data install option, I would be a lot happier hearing all of the sound effects correctly played and faster load times
@aaronstreet1054
@aaronstreet1054 5 лет назад
Are there still lags if you play it on a PS4? I’m actually asking because I may have the set up where I can play Kingdom hearts 2.5 on a PS4 soon. Thanks
@casualvanilla
@casualvanilla 5 лет назад
No, because the PS4 forces all disc games to install data to the HDD. This means that load times for these Kingdom Hearts games (which originally ran on consoles no stronger than the PS2) are incredibly short.
@castell1301
@castell1301 8 лет назад
Wondered about the Xemnas issue thought it was me being shit on critical lmao. Had a couple lags here and there yeah the load times are atrocious. Great vid biz
@sailorsimon7147
@sailorsimon7147 9 лет назад
I don't know if it's worth mentioning, but I've gotten weird camera angles when dying and during Final Xemnas' laser dome move every now and again.
@somethingsomething9006
@somethingsomething9006 9 лет назад
Question: I was fighting Data Larxene on level 1, and whenever the initial lightning bolt hit me (wasn't paying attention), Sora died instantly. However, when he died, the camera was staying the same, and Sora's body was in the death animation while the fight still goes on. Then after about 10 seconds, the game over screen pops in. Was that in the original? Also, if you get some Data Org enemies to 1 HP where a finisher is the only thing that finishes the fight (Larxene and Zexion come to mind), they just...stop. They literally just walk around and maybe attack once, then do nothing. Was that in the original as well? Thanks for pointing out these problems! Too many people defend these bugs/glitches..
@Bizkit047
@Bizkit047 9 лет назад
Asher Edmondson The lag death glitch didn't exist in original 2FM, only a 2.5 thing. As for your second thing, that's normal, some bosses change their AI at 1 HP, bosses like Storm Rider/Dark Thorn do it too.
@ShadwSonic
@ShadwSonic 8 лет назад
So if I read into this correct, this is a game I should install to the PS3 itself rather than run right off the disc? Or is that an option if I've got the physical version? Regardless, I'm pretty lucky in avoiding bugs, so hopefully none of this happens to me.
@ShadwSonic
@ShadwSonic 8 лет назад
Ah, this was a thing I watched wasn't it? Well, I guess I should mention that some of the more minor things may have just not happened for me, though annoyingly the load times and Final Xemnas glitch are still there. Then again, I don't use Limit much, so that probably accounts for a lot of it (since most of the crashes seem to involve that particular Drive Form somehow).
@gusxandibr2754
@gusxandibr2754 9 лет назад
Hey bizkitz great video, other thing that i realize is that at least in english version there are some frame drops in some sections like in the last page of pooh world there is a huge frame drop.
@numbuh745
@numbuh745 9 лет назад
They should add an option that allows you to restart a boss battle over again after you lose, instead of reloading the last checkpoint, which in 2.5 is atrocious, making you run back to the where the boss is, trigger another load screen, skip the cutscene, trigger ANOTHER load screen... Only to have you fail in five seconds flat. The amount of time it takes to begin the boss battle was longer than that of my attempts to beat terra. Ugh. BBS has this option too..
@Lauren_C
@Lauren_C 8 лет назад
The PS2 was a bit of an oddball architecture, particularly in the way data had to be fetched. In many cases, optimizations were so fine tuned that physical position of the data on the disc were crucial. Translating such optimizations to the PS3 is undoubtedly a formidable task, though that does not in any way excuse the new, sometimes very blatant game-breaking bugs that have been introduced.
@marcthomas4488
@marcthomas4488 4 года назад
Thank you., biz! Posted in advance of the vids 5th birthday.
@KinoDarkvall79
@KinoDarkvall79 7 лет назад
Were these things ever fixed in a patch? I just got the money to buy them, I'm not so sure, maybe I should wait until I get my PS4...
@XxTheWhopperxX1
@XxTheWhopperxX1 9 лет назад
The only one of these that I noticed when I played through the game was the final Xemnas fight.. It took me forever to beat his data battle because of the stupid reaction command not showing up and constantly needing to rely on Riku's limit break! Also, did they remove a line or something in Axel's death scene? Because I swear there was a tad bit more to that scene in the original than in 2.5.
@Gamelover254
@Gamelover254 9 лет назад
XxTheWhopperxX1 The axel death scene is exactly the same (: you might just be remembering wrong.
@XxTheWhopperxX1
@XxTheWhopperxX1 9 лет назад
Gamelover254 Ah. Well thank you for clearing that up!
@MrRubyDash
@MrRubyDash 9 лет назад
The only thing I really noticed was the drive form load, but after this I realized that there's so much more wrong. I though I was just bad at Xemnas which is why I kept dying haha. Hopefully these things are fixed if they decide to make a PS4 port!
@Sawngawkuh
@Sawngawkuh 9 лет назад
This video covered the 2.5 problems well, but let's also hope that, if SE ever winds up making plans for a PS4 set in the future(even if they currently aren't at this time as Nomura stated not long ago), that 1.5's issues are also rectified. It doesn't have as many that were prevalent in 2.5, and they occur much more rarely, but many people have experienced either freezing during certain segments(usually right before the ending FMV), or this atrocious sound bug where your speakers make a ton of those grating, booming noise. At first, people had assumed it was just a faulty batch of discs. However, that was proven wrong when people noted these same errors occurred in original Japanese copies during some streams, as well as the fact many international copies shared the same problem across multiple regions. Even if these problems are relatively minor compared to the more common ones of 2.5 due to how rare they occur(with a good deal of fanboys dismissing the fact just because it never happened to them), it's still a thing that must be fixed if they're ever to do another re-release.
@ALMARAZLEGACY
@ALMARAZLEGACY 9 лет назад
no wonder when i was fighting final xemnas i couldn't use react commands to dodge his throw arm move, it kept using riku's reaction command every time. i had to disable his commands in order to dodge SOME of xemnas moves but not all. i remember in ps2 original kh2 i could have riku's moves enabled and still dodge ALL reaction commands coming from xemnas's attacks.
@soha7617
@soha7617 8 лет назад
My 2.5 English game also freezes for a few seconds when I change keyblades
@xXLunatikxXlul
@xXLunatikxXlul 4 года назад
Were these bugs and problems ever patched? I've run into a few, but the one that really screws me up, is the fact you cannot really use the "reversal" command against Xemnas.
@pabloCJ1405
@pabloCJ1405 7 лет назад
I don't know if this is a bug or glitch,but in the Data Final Xemnas Fight when Xemnas traps Sora and we have to use Riku to stop Sora being defeated by Xemnas,the lifebar of Sora runs off very fast,in a way that it's almost imposible to get throught that part
@theloreoverseer7106
@theloreoverseer7106 2 года назад
I’m guessing they really did fix all these issues with the PS4 port, yeah my game on 2.5 chugged a couple of times but never crashed, never lagged, everything worked fine, load times were on par with ps2 version.
@DantesDeception
@DantesDeception 9 лет назад
I found an issue with Timeless River's sounds that it would make a nasty Audio sound if Sora did a move or did something to make a lot of noise, similar to headphones that can't handle certain sounds.
@ddr5551
@ddr5551 9 лет назад
DantesDeception I loud beep, right? I think I know what you're talking about.
@DantesDeception
@DantesDeception 9 лет назад
Yep. Pretty much.
@Gamelover254
@Gamelover254 9 лет назад
DantesDeception It's supposed to mimicking old time microphones when they couldn't handle that much, it's annoying, but intentional.
@RushStudios101
@RushStudios101 8 лет назад
Has anyone tested the Xemnas 1 crash for probability? I want to do some speed runs but I don't want want to have the game crash that far in. I don't own the PS2 Final Mix either, so 2.5 is my only option.
@Bizkit047
@Bizkit047 8 лет назад
+RushStudios101 If you do the speedrun strat correctly, it can never crash. If you fail it at the end with the Limit Form strat, then you will 100% crash it though...so it just depends how good you are at it I guess
@Goldenheimer
@Goldenheimer 9 лет назад
Thanks for opening my eyes! Awesome to see that there is always at least 1 channel for your weird nieches, like tryharding KH! :))
@superbrawl98
@superbrawl98 9 лет назад
When doing the final boss command, i mash lock on (r1) and triangle and it seems to help :S
@theBuzz76
@theBuzz76 8 лет назад
I died so many times on final xemnas to that move glad I'm not crazy. Has a fix been found yet?
@Kazuki_1
@Kazuki_1 8 лет назад
+Thebuzz76 nope.
@Poki3
@Poki3 9 лет назад
Thanks for the Drive form pause buffer trick. From what I know on the PS2 the data on the DVDs was actually organized so that it would reduce loading times, and the drive itself was functioning differently then a PS3 drive. A Data Install would be great, at least partial (character and weapon models, animations etc.) but we won't get it on a PS3. PS4 requires games to be installed to the hard drive though.
@DestinyPostmaster
@DestinyPostmaster 9 лет назад
Hmm, interesting video. I can definitely agree with the long loads on the drive forms but I actually have never run into any lag/load times on battles like you showed. Never had any freezes either, and as far as I can tell the sound effects seemed fine (though it might be hard to catch that). Regardless, that issue with Xemnas (especially when fighting data version) makes it very frustrating...
@CamOfSpam
@CamOfSpam 9 лет назад
This one time when i was fighting data Roxas, he hit me with that spiral leap attack and my screen turned competitively white. I thought my game froze but the fight was still going on. I could here Roxas still making his grunts and Sora getting hit but the screen was still white. I finally died and it went to the normal game over screen. It was pretty weird
@Bizkit047
@Bizkit047 9 лет назад
Nightshade21 Ah I remember hearing about this. Yea that's deff a 2.5 issue.
@Xaddgx
@Xaddgx 9 лет назад
Bizkit047 Actually, it was an issue present in the original KH2FM as well. If you use Firaga or Blizzaga on Hooded Roxas, there are split frames where it can still come out during the keyblade duel. And, if you hit Hooded Roxas on exactly frame 1 of the keyblade duel with this, you will knock him out of the duel, and the screen will stay white because the flash is attached to his A.I, which you just interrupted by hitting. Alternatively, if your spell hits him on any other frame, you will knock him out of the duel and Sora will still be able to steal his keyblades, or the duel will drop with Sora going through the normal animation and eventually being vulnerable to whatever attack Roxas throws out next.
@Bizkit047
@Bizkit047 9 лет назад
Xaddgx Drevol Brasse Ah okay, that's probably why it's so rare to encounter
@Xaddgx
@Xaddgx 9 лет назад
Bizkit047 Yeah. Even Firaga will rarely ever hit frame 1.
@varo2122
@varo2122 8 лет назад
Thank you for not being a stupid fanboy, people like you are literally the only thing keeping the good old Videogame industry alive.
@tehSunBro
@tehSunBro 9 лет назад
its seriously fucked up that the european, and english versions of 2.5 habe even mor3e issues than the japanese one. I've been willing to overlook the bad load times on 2.5 cause Blu Ray is significantly slower than DVD was. (Doesnt excuse there not being a Sata Install Feature, BBS had it, most early PS3 Games had it) but these Bugs and Glitches sadly ruin a great Game for me on PS3. Sadly im such a KH Nerd i'd even buy the PS4 releases when they dont fix anything. Just cause i love these Games so much.
@PlainOlJoe
@PlainOlJoe 9 лет назад
Wow. As someone who didn't own a PS3 but was anticipating a KH2.5 PS4 port, I'll have to keep this video in mind before purchasing it and see if they fix this crap. Hard to say if they will or not, because while they just patched Type-0, FFX HD for the PS4 still suffers from RNG issues and a music glitch that didn't even exist in the PS3 version. We should definitely find a way to express these concerns.
@Bizkit047
@Bizkit047 9 лет назад
PlainOlJoe I agree, if we're vocal about it, it seems they may listen, which is what I hope this video accomplishes. When you port something and make it worse than previous versions...that's poor porting.
@TheFirefly888
@TheFirefly888 9 лет назад
I just bought this game and I have noticed that for some odd reason I don't have voice acting in the engine rendered cutscenes at all. It really doesn't make the game unplayable but it annoys the crap out of me.
@nee181
@nee181 7 лет назад
Seems like they didn't fix the sound effects in the PS4 version. I was wondering why there was some missing quotes and why things didn't play like they did before. However, they did fix the load times; they work very excellent, even faster than the PS2 version(of course), and the glitches are gone, but there are some minimal ones.
@RaXZerGamingZ
@RaXZerGamingZ 9 лет назад
i also did crash at the Xemnas fight in the world that never was , my whole console froze , the PS button didnt even do anything
@guthetanuki256
@guthetanuki256 7 лет назад
Dude gave me an idea how to beat Xemnas Data battle on Critical now. I didn't even think about the Reflect spam when he throws you up for massive damage.
@Bizkit047
@Bizkit047 7 лет назад
Doing that strat on PS3/PS4 just gets you killed. The Reflects won't help if the RC drops to avoid getting hit
@guthetanuki256
@guthetanuki256 7 лет назад
Maybe it's not a reliable strat, but it helped me with the data battle tho.
@sephiroth068
@sephiroth068 9 лет назад
So it wasnt just me then...i always thought the lag pauses were something unique to my game or that my PS3 was being dumb because I had never seen or heard anyone else talk about them in 2.5 HD well I guess im not entirely wrong in the sense that it is unique to my game, it just happens to be unique to all the overseas versions apparently...at least I know im not crazy then whenever i see it consistently good to know, thanks for the informative video
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