KIRAC 5 "The Tears of Mara McCarthy" (full film on Patreon) 

Still can be fun

Hahahahaha

yeah, the suck

Didn't seem she was crying about that.

I have been told by my management....lol

That's exactly why he started to do a march walk XD

I also watched it. But I think the joke about her red hair came from another place. The frist thing the interviewer said was I need help. She replied with do you need therapy or something like that? That question is very down grading and disrespectful. It's disrespectful towards the interviewer, because it's an assumption that he might have mental problems. And it's disrespectful for people who're going through therapy, because not everyone that's asking for help directly needs therapy. Her question of, do you need therapy ?, was an act of looking down on him, making a fool of him. It also states that she is in a superior position. She's acting like a savior, the one with knowledge and the interviewer is in this case the stupid person that needs to listen to her advice's. So he responded with a joke about her red hair. Now they both were looking down on each other so their positions in the discussion are equal again.

Carpediem I want to talk to you about something. Can you send me an email to: stefan.ruitenbeek@gmail.com

Just send you an e-mail. My e-mail address is s***.j*******@gmail.com

Are u that lame. It's called Trading Wits

@@carpediem8655 Suddenly he can become easily offended by the therapy question. We are all prone to laugh at her crying, but he can be easily bruised by a commentary, such an angry little boy kirac is.

A cynical approach isn't invalid tho

@@timgeurts good point. A cynical approach is definitely valid and I would definitely would agree with it, the thing for me is that their approach is delusional and so egoical that it ends up putting it down any point

Exactly

It's not just cynical here, also trying to insult at least at one moment this is said and that's just shit, never necessary.

I don’t understand why the intermezzos are not part of the discussion. Why not share these reflections and analyses in the on screen discussion?

@@annika5790 wow this is actually a great point, because these are things you have to think out and are very hard to get right if you are pressured to respond immediately on the spot. might also be the reason some people are hesitant in their responses in video's like these.

@@annika5790 Because he doesn't have the intelectual qualities to make the discussions live, he just acts as bully, giving no right of response, and writes afterwards, to show he is superior, if he had used those arguments with her at the moment, i could give him some credits.

@@squareglobeplus Stefan Ruitenbeek can develop thoughts on the spot with pressure, since he has to develop his ideas with lettering afterwards.

You CAN'T spell

*failed artist

I think in this case it is more about the gallery having a place in this event while they are just people visiting. If the artists had their spot and a gallerist would ask them lots of uncomfortable questions it would not be weird if the artists were to send the gallerist away. However, I do think that an artist would/should be able to respond to such questions while the gallerist did not.

He is not an artist. Stefan Ruitenbeek might be a videomaker, perhaps an youtuber. hahaha

This is not journalism.

Haha precies!!

Thank you dlower23! We are working on various English episodes. And subtitles for episode 6 will be released febr 8th or 9th.

Keeping It Real Art Critics Thanks for replying. This is very important work. I'm surprised these videos aren't more popular.

Thanks again. I would love it if more people would get to see them but I'm also happy with the viewers we do have. I get the impression they are sort of extraordinarily committed. I see this in the audience retention statistics and in the private messages I get and the people I run into on art openings. Also maybe this is just not a mass audience thing. Especially not episodes like 'The psychology of Jon Rafman'. But maybe I'm wrong and we are simply not reaching the people who would be interested to see these episodes. If you have any ideas or suggestions please tell me. I've been sending links to art magazines etcetera but they don't respond. Maybe share it on your facebook and tell your (art) friends? I also think some episodes would be great for art teachers to show their students and have a group discussion or something like that. Also I'm getting a lot of discussion on my facebook on these video's. You can send me a friend request on facebook it's 'stefan ruitenbeek'.

@KIRAC this is actually why I'm watching this, I'm an art student and we are discussing your videos in our classes

Kun je mailtje sturen naar stefan.ruitenbeek@gmail.com? ik wil iets vragen.

They have english captions you can turn on :)

(I don't see your response here but will quote it in case somebody wonders). - Keeping It Real Art Critics: Many! But tell me about your interpretations! What do you think? Well first I think it's a cool idea for a channel, it's the first "art critics channel" I've come across and would love to see more videos like this one so keep the good work! But also, I'm very skeptical about art and probably even more about art critics, overall what I didn't like about this is the approach of your artist friend Tarik Sadouma, starting by the "I'm not the one with red hair" comment and many more that I don't think help out on the mission you guys had. I liked much better the approach of the girl who was respectful and said a very powerful sentence about "having the freedom to talk to a gallery about art on an art fair". It was also very interesting the comment Sadouma made while eating pizza "when you dehumanize a gallery owner and you make her into an object, herself, next to the work, she becomes your artwork with the work she is in, with her faulty ways of thinking, and then she cried, which is wonderful, she was looking for some kind of empathy, and I didn't give her any, and I'm very proud of it" well that sound to me like an "art God" talking and I'm not into it. But hey, I enjoyed the video and will surely keep watching them, so keep them coming!

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^good words

@THE NEW HOUSE Protest art barely has quality, agreed. I can't look at a black painting and think, "Wow... That's nice.". But i also can't say "Wow, it's not good quality." It's just sort of there. Art is not meant to be used as a protest.

@@cazek445 People trying to say what art is or not it is. Why art could not be used as form a of protest? You made the rules and limits of arts intention?

How an object can be arrogant? A person can, nevertheless, as the psychopath interviewer.

Actually, its art.

in the name of art we can do anything

So, that being established we can carry on with our job, now what was that? Yew keep being HONEST

Criticism is not Bullying. Criticism is An act out of love for truth.

Since when does criticizing a merchant selling a faulty product equate to bullying a human being?

The evidence does not support what you say, even your comment contradicts its meaning. It was produced, and the thoughts that were behind it, and mine.

"it was produced" as a counter argument against the OP. There's only two possibilities here: 1. you honestly don't see the difference between the two usages of the word "produce". 2. you willfully ignore the difference and therefore use a deliberate misconstruction as the foundation for your rebuttal. 1. makes you not too bright, and 2. makes you a troll. Which one is it?

Depends on what the intended "product" is. If the intent was to provoke shallow leftist gallery owners and troll the organisation, I'd say they were pretty productive.

no

You are missing the point of Kirac

Do you know anything about the artist, or the exposition itself made by the artist. You are just assuming a bunch of things. Have you ever been to a war? The artist himself was in the Korean war in the 50's. So, I guess he has more background than you be able to talk or to make something about it.

@@heitorcaramez Good reply....however a REALLY good artist makes art where that experience/ knowledge/ insight is evident, either spelled out in bold statements or somehow just imbued in the piece, sometimes beyond "description", without having to read a notecard or the artists biography. They COMMUNICATE well. And great artists often communicate complex emotions and issues - like war, well. This separates great art and artists from mediocre ones.

And the Buttplug Garden Gnome.

Ok

When proposing therapy became an insult for someone unknown coming to you and directly asking help?

Mükerrem Tuncay unable to detect her sarcasm. she's not a therapist so it was obviously facetious. also she chuckles at her own *old ass* joke. but yeah, play dumb and pretend to believe she was actually trying to be helpful.

Firstly, she doesn't say she will do the therapy. She asks "need therapy?" Anyway... You will be always for and against to an idea, everywhere... This kind of monologues which is presented like dialogues is so far from productivity. You can't ask question to the people and silence them while they answer to it. They could do this video without her definitely. It seems like vomiting ideas onto other person and filming this.... Even though this video includes interesting points in discussion, their disrespectful attitudes turn this video into a representation of huge contradictions...

Mükerrem Tuncay they were made to leave for asking questions, aka trying to have a dialogue. she responded however she wanted to. art is hard, and if you're serious about it, you should be open to answering any and all questions about your work or the work you represent, even if the way they were phrased made you feel uncomfortable; *especially* then. but their questions were in no way inappropriate. if her sarcasm went over your head, you're a lost cause.

Spineless imbecile

What would you consider political art? To protest against war is political? Medieval art sponsored by the church would be political or for example art ? Or the painting of independence of a country during the 1800's through out many nations, they are politically and ideologically driven, do they have an expiration date. Check Death or independence of Pedro Américo.

@@heitorcaramez cultural Marxism indoctrination of leftist ideology including black liberation, racism and black

Ick wel!

@@murcoroegholt9435 zeit gij familie van Kroegholt ? Of bent ge soms de Grote Kroegholt zelve ?

Yves York which mccarthy?

Why you hate imagine? The video is a response to imagine? Imagine there's no heaven, because he talk about a mudane world with no God, are you Christian?

@@heitorcaramez Because in my opinion it's the same gratuitous thing as the 'protest art' discussed here. You're funny... because there is a song that I don't like with a line about religion I must be a christian.

@@hilbrandbos what I was trying to say, the song is not as utopical as it might seem.

Yes, they provoked a discussion back then. That is the historical value. So, to restore that value you provoke the same kind of discussion again!

@@timgeurts Which historical value? His whole point was that the painting had no more historical value, due to the war being over, and therefore makes no sense to the present. (that phrase in itself has no logic.

Good argument. But their approach is cynical, they are not for a discussion but for a happening, a show off. It is never a fair discussion they intend, but a trap where they get to be as superior or clever.

@@heitorcaramez funny how much they are able to talk without actualy saying anything. But this is the problem. They never learned to discuss. they learned how to speak and tell stories.

@@raunchyNO The are on the brink of stupidity, people just like because it compesates their own complexes of inferiority.

@@heitorcaramez i 100% agree.

Neither the psychopath guy trying to talk to her.

@@heitorcaramez agreed. this whole bunch are a bunch of maniacs trying to pass their insecurity off as intellectualism.

I think you are repeating someone :-)

ART IS DEAD I S A N A R T

CINEMA IS DEAD

No, he didn't. The officers as an instrument of defense. Are you really comparing the context of the holocaust with that situation? People around here have difficulties in connecting history, politics and art.