Kitakaze - Don't Rely On Your Team 

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"Don't rely on your team". That's #1 golden rule in WoWs.

"I have a lot of backup", sounds like someones famous last words.

I wonder if any of your team thought: "lol. another noob dd suiciding into cap. he should have hid behind the islands like us."

When I saw a Fuso fire HE at a broadsiding Kongo then switched to AP _intentionally_ to fire at a DD, *_then gave broadside to a Sinop at 6km range_* my faith in humanity crumbled a bit

"I expected my team to do the smart thing." basic mistake

We have to ask a question about the way wows is designed and the way it engages its players: why is it so easy and so natural for the average casual player to do the wrong thing?

Seriously, Kitakaze is just too strong for its tier. But then again there are a lot of strong DDs on T9.

too many times the beginning has happened to me. I guess i need to consider the allies on my team as red as well

OMG it's like you're playing on NA.

"mentioned in the past.. to remove torpedoes to increase win rate" - Goddam true

Last time I was this early, Z-52 was a good ship.

Everyone is someones teammate. Still, the level of skill is terrible right now. It has never been great but I don't remember it being this bad.

14:52 ACTUALLY JINGLES, the Agir is the last ship, not the Roon.

There's no joy in solo randoms when you REPEATEDLY have to carry ALMOST EVERY match. This is less of a "game" than it is a chore; especially on weak-ends.

Sometimes at a start of a battle I type in, 1) Sink radar boats and DDs. 2) Cap and don’t chase 3) Don’t trust your teammates. It’s normally replied with the random salty insults as the battle goes on by players who got themselves into completely reversible bad positioning.

Can't agree more with you Flamu. So many potato Cruiser captains out there, decided to play cruiser for a while while my DD is in dry dock. Don't cap right away and wait till you see what team does has been my motto last couple weeks.Always angle ship to get out of trouble quickly...Is A MUST.

I'm not entirely sure if your teammates at C initially did the wrong moves. Kiting away and depleting the enemy's HP to push back afterwards isn't a terrible tactic. Georgia got dealt with fairly quickly, and as you said yourself, Donskoi came back to be pretty useful shortly after (don't rely on your team though this was pretty damn reliable), only to push straight back into the cap. I believe it's ok for an enemy team to hold points as long as the trade in HP is in your advantage. As for the rest, solid display of a low HP Kitacarry :)

As a dd player I can't tell you how many times I've died alone. I get abandoned all the time. I look around and everyone is either gone or hiding and not firing. That being said I usually still wind up in the top 3 at the end of the game. Capitan Don

Honestly when the enemy georgia just charges in like that, the team's smart choice is to kite away for a bit and kill the Georgia, and after taking out the only battlehsip gun in this flank there is nothing to stop you pushing this cap and taking it back.

My advice is: Never rely on your team, bc most of the players aren’t listening or are unable to comunicate.

very interesting video because of the good game play explanation. being a newish player i love these as its shows the proper mindset to have. don't always assume player are seasoned player. thanks

Like they say "if they haven't hurt you they have helped you"

Might want to remind your teammates that dd has no torps. They might not have realized it.

Love this video!helped me improve my decision making and getting killed less😅

12:00 while all this is happening, F. der Grosse just leaves c and lets it get capped lmao

Thank god there are people like flamu out there to carry my ass

Borderline OP ships like Kitakaze: I sleep A Russian ship that isn't shit gets released: *real shit*

I love this ship. It is the equivalent of a fighter bomber, that can "fly" its own fighter defence screen. You can hold out against practically any ship, if you play it well. It is borderline OP. The anti-dote to bad team play.... but even then, teams can throw the game effectively in any case.

@Flamu would you recommend getting the Harugumo after the Kitakaze? I feel like the Haru gives up far too much for that extra turret and more HP. -Shrayes

This is how it plays out 9 out of 10 times. Very frustrating as a DD guy! They then bitch when you aren’t “spotting” for them or not running into the cap.

-35ms PING, must be nice to see what you are doing even before you do it xD

14:52 Jingles effect I see.

My last high tier dd games were 0 damage permanent 12 km radar assrapes. These are trying times for high tier tech tree destroyers...

You don’t have teammates, you have meatshields

Exactly the way I play DDs, you need to keep an eye on your teammates more than the enemies. This kind of carry games is what satisfaction can be in this game. I also rated Kitakaze top of tier9 DDs, have been expecting this ship's concealment to be nerfed by 0.2km for a long time, I'm doing 100K dmg average in this ship after the IFHE change, prefer the demo expert and drop the IFHE as you don't need IFHE to pen cruisers anymore and you can get a better result by fire on BBs in short firing windows from none concealed situation. IFHE only beats it when you can farm in smoke or behind the island non stopped with vision support.

verry verry lucky,as often. but with ultra op ship like this,its damn absurd simple!

Legit just came off a map where I was in a roma fighting one side against 4 battleships, only person trying to help me was the carrier on my team while the rest of my team were literally running around picking daisies not even in positions to help.

Now I even get Azur Lane ads on Flamus videos. What have you done, Flamu, what have you done?!?

Man, i have saw this movie enough in my games... damn i lost over 5% wr on georgia cuz even krakens and over 200k are not enough to win.

when there is an island to HIDE behind your team m8 will always go behind it and NOT help you

I basically had the same game an hour ago - with my useless teammates clumping up and runnig away even tho we almost won the flank. In over two decades of multiplayer gaming - i have never ever seen such an ignorant, braindead bunch of useless cowards as in this game, and I played DotA for a decade ffs. Terrible, terrible playerbase - and Wargaming loves it, since bad players buy big ships, thats why WG wants those bots to stay useless. Dont even let me get started on the rigged matchmaking...

i will never admit im a good player sometimes im absolutely terrible, but i dont get people hiding or running away like that without a good reason

Flamu could you cover the newly launched German premium DD the Z-35? I bought her and she seems like a fun gunboat.

Sir. Wonderful experience... I have also youtube gaming channel.. Please help me to grow.. Sir..

Shimakaze Player scribbling in a notebook: Torpedoes are very much a support tool [...] Shimakaze Player looks up: You are not making any sense, whatsoever, mate.

I greet you. I want to briefly write what I think about this game. I don't know what people are playing now, probably only women. A few months ago, ships stood at the back of the map and behind the islands, now there is also a "lemings train" all or a part of the team in one cap and there for some island rub against each other, full HP BBs at the end of the battle. They leave 2-3 ships on one flank that dies quickly, and the rest die soon because they have fire all over the map. There is no help from them. When you write to them, you suddenly get banned from chat. One guy even drowned me for clicking on him. I have been playing this game from its very beginning, I grew up on the game close and sharp, this is what I want and like. Now I have no way to play. I use DDs a lot, it's very hard - CVs, radars, sonars ... but the most painful thing is being ignored and not being helped by my team. Another thing, they only shoot BBs, 5km DDs are swimming and no one hits him, my spot is shit, my dedication and wanting to do something for the team / win fight. This is pathetic. I want to do something, but I can't, because if I only show myself, I have focus and I'm done. I can't play like they do, it bores me. This game has gone to the bottom and keeps going. Once, a few years ago, I had fun and the joy of playing, there was cooperation, fighting together and nobody was afraid. Now I have stress and sadness. Camping, lemings, fear and doing nothing / laziness. Back then, the BBs were swimming for the DDs, the crusers were doing support and protection for the DDs that were spotlighting for all of them, ahhh that was and will not be anymore. I spent a few hundred euros on premium, ship ... I really regret it now, I don't want to be nervous all the time, I don't want to play this shit anymore. I do not recommend this game to anyone, and even advise against it in order to protect my friends from stress. I would like to sell my account if possible and forget about this sick time. I watch your movies a lot and I like them. I congratulate you because you are a great warrior, you play perfectly and you have to follow your example, I am much, much worse than you. I will never have your experience because I'm 46 years old and I'm old;). My dream is to play as I used to, as I like, close and hard, working together with my team. I will look for another game that will give me joy and fun, not stress. This is not just my thinking, because many players think the same. I think that you too will get angry when there is nothing you can do in the game, I do when I really want to, but I can't. I greet you warmly. Sorry to have written so much, it should be less.

While i agree that relying on a team these days is iffy at best and the potato level can be infuriating, I noticed you have a tendency to call out said team mates for not shooting your target within seconds of you spotting it, alot of the time you are supported by 10 second reload cruisers with 5 or so second shell travel time i don't understand why you would expect any supporting fire within 15-20 seconds anyway when those supporting ships are obviously already engaging something else, certainly not from a BB with 30 second reload... Basically i think your expecting all your supporting ships to be loaded and waiting to shoot at what you spot like a competitive team would, but this is randumbs, can't expect that kind of play when you consider just how bad the average WR/PR is lol. At any rate I love your content, just pointing out something I've noticed ;)

Any BB except the Champagne and maybe some IJN should get -1xp and -100credits per second they are in the A/J 1/10 rows or columns. Except it they spawn there, so it should not kick in until 2 minutes in.

Are Teams even a thing in Wows?

The Cowardice infecting WoWs at the moment is unbelievable! Players not wanting to scratch the paintwork on their internet virtual boats....Its pissing me off so much I might quit playing before subs come in....

can someone explain to me why the player base is SOOOO obsessed with launching torps at all cost? can't tell you how many times i've seen a tirpitz swing her ass back and forth so she can launch torps at targets that are more *WAAAAAY* the fuck out of range. even tier 9/10 cruisers, swinging their asses out to launch torps that have virtually zero chance of hitting when they have something far more important to do, like breaking contact, or closing the distance, or turning to engage a dd.

This has been happening to me for the last couple of weeks. Team mates just dont give a fark these days. What is going on with these people ?

Dd is by far the worst class to play, not only bc there are so many counters to you (radar, hydro, high dom cruisers, cv and soon subs), but also bc of teammates. Anytime i play a dd, literally 2-3 people will start telling the dd what to do (while they hide and cant even shoot what we would spot, or they all just clump up or turn tail and run at the first encounter with an enemy). Its so annoying i just turn off chat automatically now. Pushing caps right away when there are 4-5 radar cruisers and a cv in almost every match is just suicide. It pays to hang back a bit and see what your team is actually doing and where the cv is focusing (so you are not in that spot). Even still, dd play is just way less fun than it used to be bc of all the changes to the game that essentially nerfed dd.

Why are you referring to WOWS as if it was an multi-player game? If you want team mates that actually thinks, play co-op. There are no team mates in wows. The game is simply designed in a way that punishing you for shooting at half of the enemies. I mean. The possibility to make memes are endless.

Don't rely on your team indeed, and if you don't do want they want they going to shoot you... WHAT yeah that's new I guess

With gunboat DDs like this what role do light cruisers fill? They shoot less rounds and due to citidels, larger size, and slower speed are easyer to kill, they might have radar but if a light cruiser is within 10km of anything it's about to die

In defence of your team mates - if you push in as a bb alongside and supporting a dd it's quite common for the dd to bail and leave you alone.... probably when you were recognisable as Flamu as well as focussing you the other side of the coin is that your own team would support you more....

Flolo stop making vid's like this, especially about Kitakaze, because WG will nerf another good ship !

no body want to push anymore which then makes everyone else not want to push either... hence why your flank was humping the boarder... 1 ships turns away.. the rest follow. Sad state of affairs really

1 VS 23 > 12 VS 12

How nice of his team to help and radar, this rarely happens and the few ships behind him would of ran away by now leaving you to be fist pumped. No one provides vision unless by accident and would rather pew pew for self gains.

Wg needs to add more incentive for people to work together and they need to include training modes for newbies to learn how to play their class as well as general gameplay tips. So many people have no clue what they are doing but will constantly rage at everyone else for bot reading their mind or doing what they want. Its painful...playing this game less and less.

This is teamplay nowadays. They will bite of your nose too if you ask for more teamplay and support. What immense difference with how the game was 4 yo 5 years ago.

Most players have no idea Friesland doesn't have torpedos. If there is a Fries on the enemy team, i say in team chat that it doesn't have torpedoes and usually get replies like 'what?' and 'really?'

Analysis of the Game: it is your mistake that you don't anticipate the mistakes of your team members. Welcome to Random battles in WoWs nowadays

I could retire if I had just $1 for every time I went into a cap and some short time later look and see all of my teammates are behind the nearest island hoping that bad guys go away...

This game is slowly dying and WG doesn't care it has World of Tanks. The only thing that will bring me back is skill based MM. Cheers

Well, that was TEAMMATE. If i were you, i'll torp that anoyying teammate lol

these days 90% of the FDG and GK i see are all playing further back than the yamatos and thunderers.

Hi, Flamu can you play YUEYANG? Nowadays it's hard to play as Old dd.

Quick question regarding AA mod. Since the nerf, it's useless, as you said, so my question is what do you use on slot 3 on USN BB's, especially the tier 8-10? I use secondary mod personally, not for brawling, but just because it's the least useless of the available options. What's yours?

World of Warships really Needs a tutorial or something that's easily accessible to new players

This happends in 7/10 games I guess. People just don't push in and support, team does not get the fact that the teams win by points, and I have to work even harder in my DD. And add a CV to a game... GG.

One of the reasons I quit this trash fire of a game was that it is NOT a 12v12 team game, it's 1v23.

Yeah by the Georgia was full steam coming into the cap which is why they started Kiting

Not less they make it 7 v 7 of your 6 best picked team. Hell with conscrips

Split the team force and go to the extreme edge of east and west map so you cant support each other. Yup welcome to randoms

I have no clue why teamates seem to regularly ignore the enemy dds and radar crs. Then complain I'm not spotting and capping enough.

V-25, Iso-Krazy and Kitakaze are the best 3 ships in the game.

I expected my teammates to do the correct thing,,,,,, Well there's your problem lol

Ive noticed ppl are turning and running now automatically and its baffling

Yesterday my first game in Yugumo, I went to C cap on Greece.... Well the Amagi and Mogami I spawned with were both AFK. Some of my teammates noticed and got pissed and came over to assist me. I got pushed out of the cap by a Monarch and Lightning, which was literally all the enemy team had over there. We took it back once some of my other teammates made their way over there. What's significant about this? Well Amagi starts to play later in the game and starts spamming quick commands, and went and died pretty fast. Two games later, I'm playing Zao. A little ways into the game I see a battleship not moving in my spawn. omg it was that Amagi again. Called him out in chat to my team and that's when he starts moving. Goes in spamming quick commands again and gets killed fairly fast. He had 6.5k games with 43% WR... his records also tend to show a really lackluster player... most damage done was around 105k... idk, just a troll ruining the game for other people i suppose.

Words to live by in wows. Push a cap with a whole team they see 3 reds and run away!

A shepherd's pie has meat topped by cheese on an awful lot of mashed potato. That was that pie.

Flamu, I love watching your commentaries But now instead of showing the same ship twice in a row (bajie, Kitakaze) can you start showing some other ships like Harugumo, Grosser Kurfurst ( the German line in general) and then preview some new test ships like the German carriers or impero, or something. I understand you love your favourite ships but we all need to learn various kinds of gameplay and you are great player to look to for advice or guides so plz consider P.S Kitakaze is still broken

The start of this game looks painfully familiar from 4yrs of game play.

I play all games now as though I am soloing and expect no backup, Game has got worse in terms of team play and something is still up with the matchmaking. It's either a complete annihilation of enemy team or your team gets slaughtered, Lucky if 2 out of 10 matches are good close games.

I don't quite have 19 points so I went PM and AR in place of PT and LS like a mad man

Completely right. 80% are idiots in this game and selfish.

I find it about 50/50. 50% of the time my team will post up and farm the ships I spot early. 50% of the time the BBs will turn and run as soon as they see an even number of red ships across from them. At least, that's how it feels as a Shima driver.

Well man, one reason for the hesitation early on for the FDG and most BBs in fact is the same reason you almost got killed, lack of teammate support, like it happens alot, I push in with my BB to tank seeing the rest of my team coming but 1 minute later there turning around and now im alone being farmed to death, so BBs don't push in near as often.

Most players i see play like this and usually die because they want the kills/damage, i think the point system should be slightly reworked to encourage teamplay and people would (maybe) make rash decision less.

Dont rely on your Team and the Balance of russian ships.

Kitakaze would still be an okay ship if you throw it directly into tier 10 without giving it any buffs, that's how strong it is. Sometimes it makes me wonder why they still haven't removed full pen from Khaba and Harugumo. Seriously, it's not like these two ships are over performing or anything.

Played about 20 matches the other day with a fair amount of mind boggling losses where half the team stubbed their toes and died. It's nice averaging 2nd place on days like that, but it borders on frustrating.

Relying on teammates is one thing.. I've had a game where 3 bbs went chasing after 1 Alaska into one corner of the map.. and then my team's Alaska pushed through them and rammed the enemy alaska..and our bbs managed to get torpedoes to shit because all 3 of them were clustered in one box..so..day by day..I lose a little more faith in humanity.

Entire team runs to the border... way too typical.

Actually I think your team didn’t do so badly. It’s just the way wargaming rewards damage and the current state of the game that punishes not playing safe/not going for damage even if it’s the best for your team.

TeamMATES suggests I like them.......pfffft.