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It's a bit mad how football culture has evolved. Essentially now you're more ridiculed for striving for greatness and falling short rather than not being in it at all. Imagine being in a horrendous situation like Chelsea, as terrible as united or as flaky as spurs and actually trying to call Liverpool bottle jobs.
I think on the same page we have cultures of "underdogs". It invites criticism. Just go out, play your best and give credit to the opposition when you fall short. Excuses like "rebuild" when you got a stacked and expensive team invites ridicule
Salah watched this show and changed his mind about leaving. The Kick Off is sculpting the football landscape before our very eyes. The True Georgie is probably the biggest figure in football.
How about anfield agenda coming on during these discussions. Seems a little like no retaliation wanted. Craig would have a lot more to say. Saying klopp can't hack it and had walked in the face of 115 charges FC is wank. He's done a boss job would love to see pep do the same. Get a grip I love TG but these clowns are something else. Pannel needs adressin during these conversations for sure.
While it is true Mo Salah has produced more over the seaon thaan the other liverpool players his dip in performance is scary. The last 15 league games he only scored four goals and when he is not scoring Liverpool struggles.
Imagine not watching the season liverpool have had and saying salah has delivered when nunez hasnt.... Nunez has been our best attacker if you dont just watch football via twitter clips but yea he is so wasteful yet still highly effective. Salah wasnt good pre afcon but scoring , post afcon hes been as poor just not scoring. Nunez has 31 g/a and Gakpo who klopp admitted he made mistakes using him as a 8 has 19 g/a Salah has 37 g/a with 12 pens 9 scored and 3 missed Nunez in the side drastically increases our threat on goal in most metrics which back up every eye test of this season
If you're implying salah shouldn't be criticised for his disappeance since december because nunez or gapko, you're a bit thick. Salah gets more love than most when he plays well. So the likes of you and salah should be able to take it in the chin when he doesn't play well.
@@FurioussBear Im not saying salah shouldnt be criticised or that he has peformed this season. Im just confused by the title of the vid acting like its only him and klop at fault while these 160mil wastes exist
As someone who watches every second of every Liverpool game i want to remind you that before his injury people were saying he’s probably player of the season. Salah’s role completely changed since Nunez came, he basically became a creator which means that he will score less because he is further from goal, that being said he’s still the top scorer of this team. He is also the top assister he also created the most clear cut chances to his team mates in the entire league. I can make a 5-hour compilation of assists he would have had if nunez or diaz or gakpo scored them. Give the man a break ffs
I think this whole uproar is literally because we were top if last august you said we'd be 3-4th all year I'd be happy it's the fact it's been dangled in our face once again and once again we've fluffed it in 2019 city lost 5 times and we drew to everton and united
I also watch every LFC game and the drop off of Salah has been UNDEBATABLE. He has not been dangerous for months, he misses shots after shots and cannot take anyway on as he used to. He's been amazing for us over the years and I love him as a fighter but nothing's permanent and that day had to arrive unfortunately.
What gets me is the assumption that it was completely down to Klopp to make it public that he was leaving. If he informs FSG he is going they need to start looking for a replacement ASAP and the gap between seasons isn't long enough to do due diligence. And replacing him isn't as easy as just grabbing the next available guy. So how are they meant to scout for a new coach, new coaching team and backroom staff without anybody knowing? Can't exactly go and sign Edwards and Hughes without tipping off the media that Klopp is leaving. And before the losses when Liverpool were scraping wins in the dying moments everyone was saying that Klopps announcement was what was dragging them over the line. So the hypocrisy if people changing their tune now is laughable.
Absolutely spot on. In this team he will always score goals because of how many chances are made but only 12 from open play this year and the amount of games he’s disappeared in this season has been a joke. Least Darwin is involved just can’t hit a barn door, Salah literally goes entire games without even knowing he’s there
@@joshd171294 yes you’re spot on with that, so often he just runs straight at the defender, didn’t try and do any skill to get around then literally just runs at them 😂 I’ve said for a while he looks like he has no technique at all at times
Salah has also been available for almost every game during his time at Liverpool, this is the first time he's been out for so long, and at his age it's going to take him time to come back. Before his injury this season he was immense though, dictating games and his passing has been exceptional, he'd probably have 20 more assists if Darwins brain wasn't smooth.
@@Elg-24 I’m not disputing he’s had some amazing assists it’s more his overall game and fundamentals. For years he’s had so many poor games where he ruins so many attacks through really poor basic technique. He does some really advanced things but some of the simple things he can be so bad at.
I’m sorry, at the end of the day, Klopp is Salah’s boss and you do what your boss tells you, end of. I treated my boss like salah did with klopp out in public, I’d be history. He has no right to treat his boss like that.
I cannot believe the Salah and Mane conversation still a thing !! 7 seasons and Salah remains in the top three scores of PL, Mind you he is a winger... !!! What are you talking about
You can't expect these lads to, you know, do their research. They just make something up as though it's fact and then use that fact the support an equally speculative point they think is valid.
Finishing is not up to par but they lost the league due to their defense. They start almost every game losing and concede always. If you watch the games it’s the defense but the highlight packages just show the missed chances…
KG was spot on, player power is a big problem in the game and needs to be squashed out. Geordies point about treating the older players who’ve achieved a lot definitely makes sense in theory but it’s not true, the message that needs to be true to sustain a healthy culture is “nobody is bigger than the team”. ps. Brian hates Klopp
Lpool fan here. Both are wrong. Salah should lead by example. Klopp went out of ideas since utd game... and been asking salah to perform, but despite the horrendous game against everton he assisted nunez, who's always missing easy goals... if you track all nunez miss this season, you will salah assist... a team is a team when one part is broken, the other is overloaded... one thing lad to another...
All strikers miss though, look at the numbers it’s literally factual that Haaland has missed more ‘big chances’ than Nunez. Haaland just gets more opportunities in the games. I agree Nunez needs to finish more but so does Salah, he’s missed so many sitters this year too plus goes missing whenever we’ve needed him
@reecejones3187 bro don't say that b** please... Salah is not a striker he is a winger, the fact he scored a lot due to firmino didn't give him the obligation now with nunez to keep scoring like before... When nunez came, salah became more of a player maker. Plus, Salah has scored his pens and has scored a few. The thing is, Nunez is missing CLEAR opportunities, and we keep conceding goals, that's the difference to man city and when haaland misses a lot he subs with Alvarez... Now if we analyze the game vs everton or vs united. Salah assisted again but szobo, nunez and Diaz keep missing. Salah is going through poor form, but he is a LFC legend proved, we can give him the time, he performed many times when we needed him. Nunez, szobo, Diaz, Gakpo wins us nothing! We gave 2 years to Nunez and Gakpo and they didn't improve! Diaz is good running and dribbling, but that's all the guy can't finish or assist... and szobo never turned out for us... this season only 4 players turned out for us: arnold, macca, Bradley and jota. We can't crucify Salah like that... but we can buy a fit striker and a prolific left winger
👏 finally someone fucking says it I love Salah but mfs really acting like before getting coached by Klopp he was one of if not the beat player in the world... pffff gtfoh Klopp made him that
@@nawles1 being beaten by teams with a way more expensive squad isnt really a failure. Klopp always overachieved. But keep telling you that, it makes you look like an envious tit.
The announcement was strategic. He announced when Liverpool was top. He knew it will galvanize them and push them to the title. And if it went bad, it’ll be he ain’t leaving because things went bad, because he announced when everything was going great.
is this chelsea fan mad? he’s played 65% of minutes since he’s come back from afcon because he was injured for just over a month and when he came back he wasn’t sharp so he’d start and come off early or be on the bench and come on. If he was fully fit he would’ve played every minute more or less. Then there’s him being dropped recently which needed to be done i can’t remember the last time he scored outside of a penalty and elliott’s looked sharp off the bench all season. It’s not like klopps benched him for no good reason, he used him every minute possible until about 2 weeks ago where he brought him off early in a couple games cus every time he got the ball his touch was poor or he’d lose it
Always been a fan of the show, still enjoy it - but hard to listen to any Liverpool talk, need a Liverpool fan on for these sections (which do numbers) for fairness and actual insight, quite often comments made on Liverpool are inaccurate on here (no slight on anyone but you’re going off memory as a non-fan)
What a load of bs he has 25 goals 10 assists yeah he’s off form but against west ham in a must win you play salah instead of Elliot rw then take him off after 60 mins. Salah has been the go to guy 30 goals in every season bar 1 you need to win you start your bankers regardless of form
Salah is the highest paid player at Liverpool and should be expected to set standards. Say what you want about the others but they aren’t paid to be the best like he is
That’s because he was the worst player on the pitch and wasn’t a threat at all. Got completely pocketed by their left back. Nobody is above being subbed
Mane wanted to leave Liverpool before his contract even came up Klopp didn’t pick Mo over anyone. Can Brian get a Liverpool fan on full time for the most part when a Liverpool topic comes up you lads are talking nonsense
The main reason salah isn't scoring much it's coz his role changed which means he's defending more instead of more top of field action .... He main problem is klopp he's not changing his strategies according to different types of teams
That’s fine but what’s the reason he’s giving the ball away constantly, not passing forwards, not tracking back, not influencing play at all in fact, it’s mad people will hammer Nunez and give Salah a pass. He’s paid so much more and has been so much worse
@D.3100 City had a game in hand when we were 8 points clear. Liverpool were 5 points clear this season. Saliba got injured and we're called bottle jobs for not winning a title with Rob Holding in defence lol
After the ridiculous amount of injuries and VAR calls they've been subjected to it's mad to say they've bottled it. Especially when they were projected to finish in Europa league spots after changes in the squad
They have bottled it though, I’m a Liverpool fan but it’s just true. Regardless of all that stuff, if we beat palace we would be top with it in our hands. We took 1 point from the last 9, nothing to do with var
@@reecejones3187 if Var did its job you could have lost those games and still been well ahead so I appreciate you being critical of your own club but "it's nothing to do with var" is just not true. Plus after the var mistakes you had to keep playing stars who need a rest to stay in the race
@@kempyj98 yes but equally if they did their own jobs they would still be top. Plus you’re not taking in to account all the other clubs who have had var decisions against them, how many points have Arsenal and city dropped because of var for example, we don’t know but even after all of that, 5 games to go and it’s in your hands if you beat palace, and we got battered. Such an easy excuse to blame var but the players have bottled it
All these dudes (except the Arsenal fan) clowning Liverpool for bottling (it wasn’t) when their clubs aren’t anywhere near the height that Liverpool reached this season. Sad Don’t mention the United FA Cup final appearance because we all know they’re not winning it.
Man I love how you lot get right into it, great conversations great perspectives great debatesn!!! Awesome vid! Definitely can’t wait for transfer szn 😉😂
Salah was by far the best player in the league in the first half of the season. Even since Jan 1st, when everyone said he's 'dropped off' he has the 2nd highest minutes per goal or assist in the league. Im sorry, people who still slander him are doing it because he isn't white English, 7 years now and people still questioning him
I criticise him because he’s the highest paid player by a long way and in 2 seasons now he’s come back from afcon and disappeared for the rest of the season. You pay those massive wages because you’re meant to be able to depend on these players. What he did 5 years ago doesn’t matter now same as with city when they dropped Aguero
Every player will dip after a certain age; only at which age varies. Salah has dipped from his peak, for sure, and has lost pace and had his longest injury of his career in last few months. He still put up good numbers. BUT, he cannot be a RW going forward, especially in a 433 and when the other 2 forwards also don't have the consistent output. He still creates quite a bit. If Slot can move him central or be more tactical with the set up, he can still thrive. One of the things Klopp is stubborn with is tactics and 433 and the heavy press and defensive responsibility of forwards as well.
absolutely not on klopp, it’s on the players, but whether it’s down to the players ability or mindset i’m not sure. All season we’ve been winning games by one goal or scoring late winners against teams arsenal and city have beat comfortably and i do think we’ve over performed until this last month where our lucks run out in terms of getting late goals and individuals purple patches have come down to a more realistic level
Its actually mad how people are pinpointing certain things for Liverpool's decline. People saying it was Klopp's announcement, Liverpool gained so many points from losing positions post announcement, to the point half a team of kids were getting results. People saying the loss to United derailed their season. Liverpool hadn't been playing well for weeks, months even, before that United result. A mixture of teams not taking chances, big saves from Alisson/Kelleher, and Liverpool coming from behind papered over the cracks. United were just the first team to get a result from it. It was bound to happen eventually, the performances haven't gotten any worse since then, they just haven't had the same luck, and are getting the results the performances warrant. This whole bottlejobs talk is nonsense. The time Liverpool handed over control was away at Old Trafford. Regardless of how bad United have been, when the big boys visit Old Trafford its a different ball game. You can't "bottle" a title with 8 games to go being 1 result clear with hard games remaining. Liverpool are the third best team in the league this season. Even when they were top, they were still the third best team. The latest results are far from expected, and morale is clearly low after some bad performances, but people are reading too much into it.
I'm convinced that Fergie tried to force out Rooney, for no reason other than to give Moyes an out. The team wasn't good enough, but won the league. That's an impossible scenario, other than to rip up the team and still win the league. I wonder if Klopp has a similar sentiment. Perhaps a manager without Salah will get more time than one who just inherits this squad
Klopp really doesn't seem like an egotistical person. I think he just knew that in this day and age the players would find out somehow anyway, so he did it on his own terms.
Liverpool always have such nice and friendly tags given to them, how can a team with all their best players from the past era, Trent, Salah, Van D, Allison and multiple 60+ mil signings be depicted as this overperforming transition side. Its got more world class players than Arsenal with way more winners in it but they get the easy route and are never labelled bottlers as quickly even though they're most definitely bottling their position in this race and europa league.
A Man Utd fan trying to tell us that Liverpool fans are angry at Mo Salah lol. What a load of BS. Liverpool fans love Mo Salah and always will. He's a club Legend.
Joey he literally won the champions league and lost the league by 1 point then the following year won the prem…what are you on about he doesn’t do successive good season give your head a wobble
It was pretty obvious. Mane Firmino leaving would mean the team would lose two superstars, replacing them will take half a decade and now Salah might leave. Now they have employed an unknown manager who can hopefully replicate what klopp did but man resembles Ten hag in looks and previous league managed. Missing out on Lavia and Caiced now looks like a thing that will happen again coz where's the stability now?
Think of it this way, Liverpool as a team would have scored a lot more of Salah was performing. The attacks he slows down, the times he loses the ball, the bad passes, etc yes Darwin also to blame for missing but he’s paid 1/3 so can’t be held to same standard
You remove Jacob from this chat and it's basically a Liverpool and Klopp hate along fucking shambles, the whole show is spitting on Liverpool and United each week.
If i was a player at LFC knowing the manager is going...im gonna listen to offers from other clubs. I aint hanging around and gambling my career on a new manager. Im out. And guess what... im not gon a risk injury either. If i was looking for players, id be tapping up some of the liverpool players...
Absolute garbage. Klopp announcing he was going had nothing to do with it as Liverpool were still winning and looking like title contenders way after he announced it. So Craig and all the other muppets on this channel totally ignoring the fact that for 3 months after Klopps announcement everything was still great. This channel has dropped so far it's unreal
We're at a point now where we take players sides over the managers, it's a joke. If the manager has decided to use you a sub rather than a starter because of YOUR form, then you keep your head up and try and prove them wrong to get back into the first team. That doesn't change just because your performances were good in the past. Salah should use him being dropped as motivation to be better not to argue and have a strop on the touchline. From a Liverpool fan.
It was always a risky move from Klopp to publicly announce he was leaving. If things went well it would have given the players the impetus to succeed for him, but if things started to go badly then they would be left feeling deflated and lost.
football culture has boiled down to 'hold dat' and 'bottlejobs' when u fall short, whereas teams who spend a billion and sit mid table you get away with criticism
No other player can match the numbers Salah has been delivering. Hes hardly ever injured, he always delivered. Mo has been injured and clearly he hasnt gpt back to full fitness. Sorry. Klopp has had other strikers and he cant fill the salah hole. kloppn out!
It’s an embarrassment Brian saying salah is leaving like it was confirmed and now it’s been announced he is staying and getting contract extension Brian you do realise this is Liverpool fucking football club top 4 biggest clubs in world football we ain’t Newcastle
