Knife Pivot Lube (KPL) Vs Benchemade Blue Lube resistance testing (Best Knife Oil Series) 

Nice thanks for the comment, the first test was flawed and took a while to get the updated one up. Will see if there are any other concerns that get brought up.

Thanks was a fail the first time so it seems this might be more legitimate.

Just ordered some to try. My bottle of blue lube is finally running out haha. Has lasted me 5 or 6yrs. I only have to use a couple drops every month to 6 weeks between all of my knives. Excited to try the heavy for detent balls

Great thanks. The other test was much longer. Will be working on a fixture for testing later.

Nice, thanks for watching it was something I hadn't seen prior. definately would like to put a fixture together at some point.

Appreciate it, seems to be received well so will do mineral oil by request and Nano Lube

Great thanks a lot I was trying to figure out how to provide data as it does in deed make it feel smoother.

Great it seems to be a decent measurement glad it's working out.

Awesome thank you very much. I plan to test mineral oil by request and Nano-Lube within the same testing. Great to have you watching and taking the time to comment.

Nice might go that route if this is deemed a legitimate testing method. The last one was flawed which brought on version 2.

Great thanks a lot.

Nice glad this one worked out then.

Great glad this one worked out. The theory on the other test was a fail. Thanks for watching.

In a way but it's taking it from the base no lubricant, then with lubricant. Can't test with no washers 😁

Great thanks for joining in.

Appreciate it I did another with a good deal of other lubricants

Thanks those two are the only lubricants I have so haven't expanded the testing. Seems like it is being received well. Can expand the testing from here.

🤣that would be a big difference.

Thats funny right there.

Nice was in search of a data test, as it's good to say it feels smoother. But seems better to show it.

@@BladeBanter definitely enjoyed it

Nice thanks for the comment and watching.

Thanks seems to be a decent test.

Nice glad this one worked since the other was such a fail. Good point on the starting position marked off. As I probably got it pretty close but may not have been exact.

@@BladeBanter If you're willing, can you compare KPL to mineral oil at some point? I use mineral oil since it keeps my blades food safe and it's affordable as well as having other uses. I haven't tried other stuff so I am not sure how it compares as an actual lubricant. No pressure, just a thought.

Yeah if I don't get any issues arise through comments then that's a good one as there was another comment on mineral oil. I'll see what other lubricants would be good to compare to.

Great, I'm still trying to figure out a different testing method too.

Sometimes just going by feel and it’s longevity says a lot. That being said I think you went about the comparison by the weight of the action /pull was spot on 👍🏻

@@thefactor6909 Nice thanks for the feedback. Might need to set up some type of jig system to test I initial and long term lubrication.

I could check on putting it in a vise, but I don't think for this it would matter if the knife or pull gauge moved. Thanks for watching and the comment.

Haven't heard of ALG seems interesting. Not sure about the other 2 but if others feel that's a alternative possiblity.

After the testing I've gone with Nano Oil it's kind of a thing of preference as KPL does well too. I haven't tried dry lubricants but Nano oil has been tested in desert conditions where they lubricate and wipe off and it works in the areas with fine sand.

No problem thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. Still looking for better ways to do the test. Might need to just buy a whole bunch of the same knife. Get a base line then a cleaned base line, and with lubricant.

I'm looking to try it again on a knife with bronze washers or will need one with bearings. Ideally it would be great to have a new knife for each lubricant, then get the base line then add lubricant just a little expensive that way.

NIce will give some other lubricants a try to see what results they get.

Thanks I haven't heard of that one before would be great to not attract dust and dirt. Looks to be a dry lubricant. Not sure how that would hold up or how well it would lubricate.

Nice I guess the next question is what weight?

Great idea. 10W nano.

Nice

I haven't done a composition break down. Each might have their own MDS Material Data Sheet. But some might say proprietary formula. Interesting question, I'll need to look. Let me know if you find anything too.

At the hot glue area to line it up for the pull how come?

Are you still having issues with the sheet?

Just do a Google search for Knife Pivot Lube, it's on Amazon or direct from their site.

Nice thanks first was a bust so seems like this one works

That’s science, learning what doesn’t work..... Thomas A. Edison said. “I have not failed. I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work.”

Nice definitely a way to think of the process.

I could probably add a drop but the lubricant should be on the area when the knife is tightened and cycled.

Didn't think of that I'll get back to you.

I can't tell much difference between the two. I'm told KPL adds a sweet sent but neither is really a big scent. Mineral oil is a good option too.

In deed hope this one is more legitimate.

Haven't heard of that one before. Do you find it to work better on washers more than bearings?

I wouldn't clean the nylon washers with acetone though. That will likely destroy the self lubrication properties. Where as it doesn't matter with phosphorus bronze. The detent is the main dictator of action.

Thanks for the input, I disagree that the wipes wouldn't remove old oil. I do appreciate you watching and providing your opinions though. Which lubricant do you find to be the best?

@@BladeBanter its not an opinion.

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Tactical Center you constantly go on every reviewers post about lubrication on knives and try to debunk all their reviews with your opinions, yet you fail to provide any substantial evidence to validate or back up you opinions. I work in the aerospace industry, on jet turbine engines, primarily GE jet turbine engines. We have to follow ESM’s engine service manuals, CMM’s component maintenance manuals, PPBU’s, and AMM’s aircraft maintenance manuals provided by GE for their specified engines we overhaul and test. In those manuals, they instruct us to clean areas that have oil on them with alcohol when installing new components along with testing engines, having oil or fuel leaks. Now I would tend to believe that a major company like GE has spend hundreds of millions of dollars in research and development, along with paying engineers to figure out the best method of how to clean components on turbine engines. So when you say alcohol will not clean or remove oil, you’re wrong. We test engines for hours at a time, we use Mobil Jet II synthetic oil on all engines we test, when we have oil leaks we use alcohol per the manuals to clean up oil leaks and it works. You can watch the alcohol pull the oil or fuel away from the area that the leak. You spend too much time trying to be the internet know it all, usually the person who thinks they know everything does not really know anything.

Nice hope the test seems more accurate than my previous.

Marvin thanks for watching could you clarify what you are referring to as the location that I put the lubricant on is the blade side of the washers? The viscosity would affect some of the resistance as show. always looking for new methods as I haven't seen other test methods other than it being stated that it feels better.

Good to know how far did you get before clicking off? And did you check my regular content?

Thank you for your experience so far, its interesting that those makers don't use any lubrication as most companies do, from Chinese brands to companies like Chris Reeves and Medford use some type of lubrication, unless they are using teflon which is self lubricating. The lubrication assists with heat but also with friction caused by pressure and surface to surface contact. If you are concerned with attracting debris brands like Nano Oil have been used in military operations where they use it in maintenance and wipe down the parts to leave a light film in areas with fine sand. The lubrication may not be needed for pure function it does make a difference in felt and as show measured resistance.

@@BladeBanter the thing is friction is heat there's not enough generated for the need of lubricant. What most manufacturers put lubrication on their knives for because they know they're going to be sitting for long periods of time and they don't know in what environment on shipping containers or sitting in warehouses and being transported in the mail. So they use this it's more of a general protection. Once an individual has a knife you don't need lubrication on a knife. again that being said as long as you use common sense and clean your knife properly you don't have to worry about rust or any other issues. I've got dozens Old Slip joints summer over 70 years old and they don't have any lubrication all them I've never live located them in the 30-plus years I've had them through marketing and whatnot. Now can you tell a difference in a freshly cleaned and lubricated knife? Tree can but that is only momentary because just like all other lubricants Grime in degrees get mixed in and they no longer provide what they once did so you are forced to clean and lubricate again all while trying to achieve that initial in fractional Improvement.