Nano Oil, KPL Knife Pivot Lube, Blue Lube, and Mineral Oil Test. Which is the best knife lubricant?

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As the idea turned into a process this is level setting all the other tests into the same format at the same time, and temperature so there isn't any question about other factors.
It is a long video so take it in parts if you want, or watch straight through and treat it like a background podcast. Let me know what you think and if your guess for the best lubricant won?
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@zachstuff 5 лет назад

You nailed these tests and have set the bar for future testing and products on the market. Thanks for putting in the hard work so we could see how these products compare!

@BladeBanter 5 лет назад

Yeah in deed, will be checking on a different test method later, but seems to work well overall.

@poopagore 3 года назад

*THANK YOU for doing this!!!* It looks like such a pain in the ass but really cool to have some of this info!!

@BladeBanter 3 года назад

Nice thanks a lot I still haven't found a great way to test this on more of a bunch style test. Thanks for the comment.

@JR-5465 3 года назад

Thanks for the vid. I've been using Blu lube for years ill have to give a couple of these other ones you tested out. I've liked and subscribed to your channel also thanks again.

@BladeBanter 3 года назад

Nice thanks a lot it was an interesting result.

@didacthomas2511 Год назад

after watching your video, I use blue lube normally, going to buy nano oil, thanks for the time you spend making this video, hope you got good vibes on your life 🙏 thanks for your work

@BladeBanter Год назад

Nice yeah I may revisit this later on as it would be good to have a different method in having a clean washer or bearing for each lubricant.

@Ike32 2 года назад

Very interesting video. And well done

@BladeBanter 2 года назад

Thanks I think I might try a mass batch since there seems to be favorites and new brands out now. Thanks for watching.

@WillEDC 5 лет назад

Nice work

@BladeBanter 5 лет назад

Great thanks a lot went a whole lot longer than I expected.

@jamesreese7111 10 месяцев назад

Great video. I've tried half a dozen different oils and I settled on Proshot Zero friction for bearins, Nano85 for detent balls, and teflon bicycle grease for washers. Might try that Nano grease on washers. Very interesting results. Thanks for taking the time to test these lubricants.

@BladeBanter 10 месяцев назад

I do need to do this again and probably clean bearings each time with a fixture, thanks for checking it out.

@nitrorc4life1 7 месяцев назад

I'm 51, been us8ng lubricants all my life on small mechanical items, have gone full circle, started with basic oils/grease to "boutique" oils/grease. Many higher price products are better IN certain circumstances. On low pressure and friction demands of a knife pivot, high pressure from strength oils only add a bit more if any actual advantage. Any high grade gun oil is more then capable for a knife pivot and detent ball. Dirt and dust getting cleaned out is far more important then the oil your using in this application for knife pivots. My proof? 30+ years using my tools daily and seeing the wear and tear or lack of myself with many brands of lubes, YES some are better then others, Your being scammed imho, on these overpriced "knife" lubes, after all they are relabeled oils from another industry after all, there are NO new miracle lubrication oils folks.

@BladeBanter 7 месяцев назад

@@nitrorc4life1 After going full circle what did you end up with? Thanks for the comment too.

@jamesreese7111 7 месяцев назад

@@nitrorc4life1I'm 53 and have a background in farming and ag/construction mechanics. Worked 15 yrs at a Case IH dealership then took over my dad and grandpa's family farm. You are correct about most of the knife oils being overpriced gimics. I was just commenting on what I've found to work best for me. If cost was the main concern I'd recommend 3in one sewing machine oil, it's cheap and comes in larger quantities. Many automotive oils will work as well but the niche oils have more pleasant smell. Nano 85 is odor free but 90w gear oil smells horrible. Lots of things to consider.

@henryhenry7170 5 лет назад

I use Royal Purple gun oil and Royal Purple Maxfilm. I disassemble and clean my Spyderco knives with RP. It takes a few days of it sitting in the knife before the action is at its best. That is just time, no break in at all. Always much better next day. Heat can speed that up. I put RP on a pistol several years ago for storage and it still looks freshly oiled (try that with plant based crap). It even works great after wiping the parts seemingly dry. It beat eezox in my outdoor rust test. Perfect for my M4 carry knives.

@BladeBanter 5 лет назад

Nice thanks for the information and the experience you have had with the product.

@warrenlivingston7594 4 года назад

@@BladeBanter I can attest that Royal Purple products containing "Synerlec" or "Synslide" work extremely well.

@BladeBanter 4 года назад

Nice I need to set up a new testing set up. That one worked well for what I was trying to figure out.

@warrenlivingston7594 4 года назад

@@BladeBanter you might want to work the lube in a bit as well. You should try Archoil Ar-4400

@thebiped 4 года назад

Exactly what i wanted to know...even if it was super long getting there.

@BladeBanter 4 года назад

Thanks for watching through, didn't want to have any cuts to ensure there wasn't question on the test method. Could of course be better, but will try a new method later.

@ohioknifelover 5 лет назад

Nano-Grease blew my mind! It did very well. I thought it wouldve been closer to 130 but 105 isnt bad at all!

@BladeBanter 5 лет назад

Awesome thanks for watching. I'm going to try it on my Chris Reeve knife and a bearing knife to see how it reacts.

@ohioknifelover 5 лет назад

Blade Banter I’m sure it will be super smooth on the Chris Reeve! From other channels they said they have liked it a lot. I look forward to your opinion!

@BladeBanter 5 лет назад

I tried KPL on a small Sebenza that was loaned to me and it wasn't as smooth as grease.

@ohioknifelover 5 лет назад

Blade Banter Maybe the 85 weight Nano-Oil would work better

@Magoot2456 Год назад

@@BladeBanter hey I would love to hear how the nano grease worked on your chris reeve!

@inthepocket7405 5 лет назад

Great stuff bud👍 and thanks for doing this! Do you think you would get a different result if it was on bronze washers? Since Teflon washers somewhat self lubricate? This is an awesome demonstration, none the less🤙

@BladeBanter 5 лет назад

Possibly up until actually yesterday I figured the field strip was the only way to go. I saw a video from Wiha for a inch pound torque driver that would be able to get the reassembly pretty close each time the knife is broken down. Regarding the results possibly as this is basically two flat surfaces and the other would have some micro grooves and other factors. Will continue to look at different methods, but I think the results would be pretty much the same.

@inthepocket7405 5 лет назад

Blade Banter dude... that’s crazy. I was just talking to a guy yesterday about a torq Torx... that’s funny... yeah, that might eliminate some variables, but I know that would still be a more tedious process of disassembly and assembly.

@danduran536 5 лет назад

Awesome video. Have you tried Weapon Shield? In my case it has worked pretty good and it’s half the price of nano oil. The makers of weapon shield have some videos on RU-vid comparing to other oils. It would be nice to see an unbiased testing on a knife.

@BladeBanter 5 лет назад

Nice I haven't heard if them. Thanks for the information.

@mrblauer1 5 лет назад

I wondered if their was any benefit to lubricating Teflon washers, now I know. Thanks for testing them for me. I find it interesting that the winner by feel is not the slipperiest but the one that also has a smooth glide perception.

@BladeBanter 5 лет назад

Yeah it felt different between the two top performing items.

@eqlzr2 4 года назад

Sorry for having bigger frish to fy than watching a 50+ minute vid on oil. For those in a similar fix, the winner was Nanolube 10. Thx for your efforts tho. ;-)

@BladeBanter 4 года назад

Hey to each their own. Didn't want someone to say I tested one different than another so recorded all the way through. Need to find a new test method at some point.

@eqlzr2 4 года назад

@@BladeBanter Ain't science wonderful? ;-)

@MetalEffort 5 лет назад

I've been using Nano 10 weight this whole time. I've been wondering if I'm missing out on the KPL, but it's close enough I don't think it matters that much.

@BladeBanter 5 лет назад

I would agree, I was really surprised by the Nano Oil 85. I'll need to try that on a bearing knife to see how it is.

@BladeBanter 5 лет назад

Seems Nano might have a push towards longevity so you would not need to reapply for some time.

@mikephantasmic 5 лет назад

@Me Me Maybe 10%...

@andrewmoreno79 4 года назад

Hello Blade Banter, I just recently bought a brand new Spyderco Para 3. I was wanting to know what oil or grease you would suggest for me to use? I haven’t taken it apart yet but I believe it has bronze washers? I realize you made this video a while ago but I would greatly appreciate your feedback. Thank you and have a good day.

@BladeBanter 4 года назад

I use Nano oil which resulted in the best result from testing. The bronze will break in so just use and enjoy it. If your going to take it apart you can use Nano Grease too. KPL also does well I have and use both.

@andrewmoreno79 4 года назад

Blade Banter Thank you for quickly replying back. Which Nano? The 10 or 85?

@BladeBanter 4 года назад

@@andrewmoreno79 I would say 10 depending on the feel that your going for the 85 will be a bit more slow moving and more for detent balls.

@darichard11 5 лет назад

Nice job. Would like to see a comparison with reel oil like Daiwa. For me it gets 90% of the slipperiness as Nanooil at 10% of the cost.

@BladeBanter 5 лет назад

Interesting. After the testing one of the Teflon washers got dislodged which seems to have changed the consistency. Will be looking for the next test option.

@christianstclaire5706 5 лет назад

Hey David, it is like Champagne, the relationship between price & quality is definitely not linear but an exponential curve, the vertical is the price but when mission critical demands it, I personally go for Dom Perignon LOL but true. now please do not dismiss longevity of the " smoothness "

@BladeBanter 5 лет назад

Great thanks for adding a comment. I'm still trying to figure out different methods and will be playing around with it until I can get the methods locked down. Currently a longevity test at low rpms I haven't been able to figure out yet, someday. I personally have never tried Dom Perignon.

@kameronabrusci6258 3 года назад

Diawa isn't food safe though so I would be afraid using it on my knives and then cutting apples the next day

@BladeBanter 3 года назад

Oh mean the mineral oil

@amunderdog 5 лет назад

Still getting familiar with your content. Enjoy your easy style.

@BladeBanter 5 лет назад

Appreciate it. Let me know if there are things you feel could be improved.

@overlandedc 5 лет назад

Cool test! Interesting to see the results on Teflon, but I really wonder about bearings and phosphorous bronze washers. In my persona use I’ve found KPL works good on all types of washers, nano oil didn’t feel as good on Bronze washers but is great for bearings

@BladeBanter 5 лет назад

Yeah just difficult to figure out how to consistently tighten the pivot so it isn't a factor in the results.

@HustleHabit 3 года назад

@@BladeBanter Torque wrench using inch/lbs perhaps.

@BladeBanter 3 года назад

@@HustleHabit Yeah looked at that as Wiha even had a inch pound torque driver.

@bullyakker Год назад

Use lapping film and polish up those washers. They'll fly open! Kizer ppy, buck 112, ganzo (yeah, sorry I have one) they fly open closer to a BB but without the BB issues

@waltofalltrades6817 2 года назад

Pull tester: "I'mma turn off, you takin' too long." *2 seconds later* Him: "Come back on buddy, we're doing another test." Pull tester: "fffFUUUUU!"

@BladeBanter 2 года назад

Yup eventually will revisit but that tool seems to be a good way to get the information I need. 😁

@bubbapeppers4354 5 лет назад

Great testing... can't find the spreadsheet you mentioned with results. Looks like Nano 85 was your winner???

@BladeBanter 5 лет назад

Yeah personally for that knife it may have had a little more resistance but it was butter. I still need to finish it I'll be posting when it's done.

@BladeBanter 5 лет назад

Added the spread sheet.

@bubbapeppers4354 5 лет назад

@@BladeBanter I know you liked the 85W, but the 10W had the better numbers... interesting!

@BladeBanter 5 лет назад

Yeah it was just a feel where it was more hydraulic. Guess that's where perception is more of a personal opinion.

@bubbapeppers4354 5 лет назад

@@BladeBanter Nicely done!

@videojoe7 5 лет назад

At the beginning of the video, mineral oil was 83 grams. Why wasn't the reading added to the spreadsheet? Maybe I missed something later in the video on the reason 83 grams didn't make it to the spreadsheet results.

@BladeBanter 5 лет назад

Good question, I tried to keep everything as controlled as possible so the knife was cleaned lubricant applied and pull test completed. The 83 at the begining was a good result but it wasn't completed in the same test format. Also I was dropping the top and the bottom number so it would not have been part of the average even if included. Thanks for watching and the question.

@jatna77 3 года назад

I wonder how they compare to Extreme Fluoro grease and also regular sewing machine oil.

@BladeBanter 3 года назад

I still want to set up a test fixture. I'll need to look into it more.

@TheAdequateMedia Год назад

Normie question. are any Knife lubes thin enough to use on pews?

@BladeBanter Год назад

Possibly the light weight nano oil as I believe most run about 10 weight lubricants for those.

@TheAdequateMedia Год назад

@@BladeBanter Yeah, I've since figured out the main difference is that pew sauces are MUCH thinner than most of the stuff you'd ever use on a pivot or detent track. save, of course, the Microtech + rem oil application.

@johnimperial9777 2 года назад

Have you tried victorinix multi tool oil is it good?

@BladeBanter 2 года назад

That's a oil I haven't come across.

@zsoltfodorj 4 года назад

Hi, good idea BUT you really should have the knife in a stable position as you do it the readings are false as your left. hand is exercising the counter force. Apologies for not being positive just thought you may have the tenacity to do it correctly again. It’s a good idea on an interesting topic. Keep up the good work buddy🖖live long and prosper! Zsolt

@BladeBanter 4 года назад

Nice, looking to find a better way to do this as I would like to get a fixture system where I can do initial and extended use testing. I can see what your saying about having it be stationary. How much do you think the reading would change it would almost seem the preasure reading would be the same if it is given by the pull gauge or the hand holding the knife. I could be wrong, thats how things progress continual testing.

@AdamMalcolm96 6 месяцев назад

I appreciate the effort that went into this, but is there a time stamp or tldr for results? I not sure I have 50 minutes to learn about knife lube, so I offer you a like and a comment as payment

@BladeBanter 6 месяцев назад

I have the spreadsheet up, I'll revisit this later too.

@ohioknifelover 5 лет назад

I use Hoppe’s No 9! Here’s a link to the needle point bottle with the oil that I have purchased! www.amazon.com/dp/B0013R67A6/?coliid=I32XD0XKUSON2G&colid=30N40U84UPP2B&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

@BladeBanter 5 лет назад

Nice great it comes in that bottle.

@ohioknifelover 5 лет назад

Blade Banter I was happy about that too!

@timbo4374 5 лет назад

Interesting. I have been using the 10W Nano oil. I have a tube of Tuff Glide and Hoppes nbr 9 but have never used either, because I've been happy with the Nano 10.and I have almost a full tube left.

@BladeBanter 5 лет назад

There might be some difference, but its difficult to have a test blade that I can use where I can set the pivot the same each time.

@timbo4374 5 лет назад

@@BladeBanter yes I agree, and it would be a pia with the torx screws..the field strip is great for what you're doing.

@BladeBanter 5 лет назад

Thanks for watching. Will need to try it on a bearing knife too at some point.

@jeo1349 5 лет назад

Tuff Glide is no bueno for pivots man ---------

@BladeBanter 5 лет назад

Haven't had any experience, what types of issues have you found.

@IlIlIlllIlIlIllli 3 года назад

Have you tried Hoppe's Oil?

@BladeBanter 3 года назад

Have not as of yet, I need to build a fixture system to do some of this testing.

@datboi__ 4 года назад

I don't usually comment, but if you are trying to be more objective it would be a good start to do the test with the knife clamped down when you are measuring to eliminate any hand movement/resistance from affecting the weight measurement. The results of this particular test are not very helpful because the variable in this case has too much random variation that skews the measurements. I understand you are not trying to be ultimately obiective and scientific, this is just my two cents. I am really interested in in the results of this test as one parameter for finding the ideal lube, but these results leave more questions than answers. I am really interested in the results though, they might even be the same or similar as the numbers you got from this test. Great content nonetheless!

@BladeBanter 4 года назад

Appreciate the feedback this is something I may need to come back to. The normal testing of lubricants had been feel and preceptions. If you have ideas for a test rig let me know. I wouldn't think the hand motion would affect it as much as the reading is a maximum force needed. I think an ideal would be to have how ever many of the same knife, get a base line and then add lubricant. Even if in a fixture that might give a better reading that isn't affected by other lubricants.

@ryankoop4863 5 лет назад

I'm curious to see a possible test between WD40 and Rem Oil.

@BladeBanter 5 лет назад

I can see Rem oil, but WD isn't recommend as a lubricant.

@ryankoop4863 5 лет назад

@@BladeBanter I wouldn't recommend WD40 but it works Lol.

@BladeBanter 5 лет назад

Long term how does it perform from your experience?

@ryankoop4863 5 лет назад

@@BladeBanter I dont use it on Teflon washer due the WD40 eating away at it. I use it all the on phosphor bronze washers and it's works well it's a little thicker of a lubricant . It's nice too because it will knock any debree in the knife and will prevent the blade from rusting

@BladeBanter 5 лет назад

Nice thanks for the input on that.

@marekmasar5216 4 года назад

10way nano is best in my experience

@BladeBanter 4 года назад

I use the 10 weight quite a bit especially after testing.

@marekmasar5216 4 года назад

@@BladeBanter today I bought a new stuff.. You can check it out.. It's called Reel Supreme.. Didn't yet try it on the phosphor bronze washers but on the bearings it's even better than 10weight Nano-oil.. In therms of teflon ,I use them dry cause it is basically self lubricating substance.. Great test👍🙏 Genius way to test resistance of the pivot...

@BladeBanter 4 года назад

@@marekmasar5216 awesome thanks a lot still want to make a more fixture based test.

@mesnyankin89 4 года назад

@@marekmasar5216 I don't think teflon is self lubricating surface. I read on wikipedia. PTFE just have low adhesia with mostly every types of liquids and solid surfaces, but not self lubricating. It means it slides on every surface good, but i think it will slide even better with a very thin layer of oil.

@bigsean2473 4 года назад

@@BladeBanter i use synthetic motor oil. get alot for cheap. use on guns too. if it works get on high friction engines its good for knives and gun. just my opinion

@kagehano3600 3 года назад

You ever try super lube?

@BladeBanter 3 года назад

Haven't where is it normally sold and the initial purpose?

@kagehano3600 3 года назад

@@BladeBanter amazon, menards, and not sure where else but has Teflon in it say it’s multi purpose lubricant Here’s menards info Brand Name: Super Lube Features Dielectric, Food Grade, Clean Lubricates and extends the life of machinery and equipment Anti-corrosive, Impervious to salt and fresh water All temperature, Superior adhesion, Stays put. Withstands temperatures with in a range of -45 to 450.

@feraltrafficcone4483 2 года назад

Yeah, I’m about to watch a 50 minute video on lubes

@BladeBanter 2 года назад

That's impressive, in a group of a few folks.

@trevorj203 Год назад

Can someone just tell me what the better one was I don't want to watch a 40-something minute video

@BladeBanter Год назад

Someone put it in the comments already if I'm not mistaken.

@trevorj203 Год назад

@@BladeBanter that sentence is longer than the answer I asked for

@BladeBanter Год назад

Nice thanks for stopping in

@Localjadedealer Год назад

@@BladeBanter lol

@user-ws5qn9st3v День назад

NANO OIL

@sanhxhebsbbb1048 9 месяцев назад

The lower the number the least resistance correct??

@BladeBanter 9 месяцев назад

Correct as it is measured in grams.

@jimmyross1672 9 месяцев назад

thanks so much for making this video brother i almlst waisted money i dont have on KPL when clearly mineral oil works just as good for way chaeaper lol now if i had a 300 dollar knife and i was rich of course i would go with KPL but im so poor i cant even afford mineral oil lol i had to sell some stuff just to get money so i could buy mineral out and a cheap 30 dollar knife and a 22 dollar flashlight lol so thanks for letting us poor people know is ok to buy mineral oil for our knifes

@BladeBanter 9 месяцев назад

Sorry for the rough times, I need to revisit this testing with a fixture at some point.

@user-ws5qn9st3v 8 месяцев назад

So I’m so confused, how they could possibly be more resistant with the lubrication on the knife then with absolutely no lubrication as to when you cleaned it bear that makes no sense whatsoever here.

@BladeBanter 8 месяцев назад

Seems with any weight of lubricant there is a level of resistance. Not a perfect test but at the time what I came up with.

@user-ws5qn9st3v 8 месяцев назад

Ok yes that makes perfect sense, so do you feel nano oil did the best??

@BladeBanter 8 месяцев назад

@@user-ws5qn9st3v yeah overall I feel nano oil performed the best. I've been using a 20 wt Molykote product recently. Let me know if you if you know of a standard way to test some products.