Knives that are prohibited in Canada (for no good reason) 

These types of laws are like elementary school teachers taking everyone's crayons away because one student scribbled on the floor.

meanwhile in Texas there is open carry for swords

Any knife kills , rarely does the opening mechanism determine killing power

Not to mention -- if someone actually wants to kill someone else with a knife, their top choice would probably be a big, sturdy fixed-blade one (either because they had time to think about it and picked one, or because they _didn't_ have time to think about it and grabbed a kitchen knife), which these laws don't do anything about.

Switchblades are illegal because old people are scared of them. Back in the day the gangaters of the time, (Greasers), would carry switchblades. They're banned to make your grandparents feel safe.

'banning cars because some people drive drunk' is how *most* laws look to me..

"One or more finger holes" so they've effectively banned rings...

3:42: They should have banned gravity!

In the Netherlands, items closely ressembling firearms are banned because they are threatening. Real firearms modified so they can't shoot however, are perfectly legal.

These laws seem to be designed, as far as I can tell, to make Assassin's Creed hidden blades illegal.

I had a butterfly knife, and cops came in my house for an unrelated reason and saw it and took it saying that its baned, which its not here.. Not the first knife Ive had stolen from me by police, and probably wont be the last..

The laws in new zealand are literally exactly the same

In Arizona, not only are any and all bladed/impact items completely legal, it is also state law that no individual city/county/town may ever make any kind of law that would criminalize any person carrying such a weapon in that district (yes, the state law explicitly overrides all individual county knife laws). The purpose of this of course was to prevent cases where a law-abiding citizen was travelling around the state and inadvertently broke the law when he/she entered a county with different knife laws... which of course is a case far more common than the case where a murderous psychopath went on a terrible rampage with a CONCEALED SWITCHBLADE OF LENGTH LESS THAN THIRTY CENTIMETERS. Needless to say, I agree with said law.

I collect knives and the silliest part of these bans is that I can open most of my manual folders faster than I can open any of my switchblades.

I am a citizen of Canada, and I am honestly very mad, not just because they ban the most ridiculous things, but also because we waste tax dollars for them to pass such laws as this. If our government, and in fact many other governments, stopped wasing their time on things like this I bet the world would be in a much better place right now.

Try living in Australia, everything is illegal, even spring assisted.

Would gravity knives be legal in space?

The law makers watch to many action movies

Ah, the balisong ban.....because its not enough that being stupid with that particular knife design is a self limiting behavior.

All these knives were popular when I was a teenager, like 13, in Canada. And I think that is the point. They want to ban items that are popular with youth that are more likely to make inappropriate use of it. Might be better to age limit them.

This is entirely speculation and heresay but back when I was a kid in Canada in the '70s (yes I'm old) and collecting knives. I asked a local dealer why "switchblades" were illegal and he said some politician's son owned one and accidentally discharged/sprung it open while in his front pocket and cut his femoral artery and he bled out and died in seconds. In response The father passed a bill banning switchblades. Also, the reason "butterfly" knives were banned is because back in '70s they became quite a fad and a lot of guys in high school were hurting themselves badly trying to flip them open like in the martial arts movies of the day. Ya, knives were a thing in the '70s. A buddy of my'n growing up was First Nations (trying to be politically correct about this, no offence intended) and he said he wanted to become "blood brothers" with me. Not knowing what that was, I said sure, he took out his knife and sliced a big gash in my hand. Then he sliced his open too then he grabbed my bleeding hand and held it in his as we both bled. Apparently, it bonded us for life. I still have the scar and that was 40 years ago!! Jimmy if you're out there? I'm still your brother LOL!!

I am Canadian and that is frustrating. We have a lot of laws that are illogical. This is the most logical argument about the knife bans I've ever seen. I really enjoyed this video.

There was a literal stabbing and shooting in my town this week yet our laws say that shouldnt happen, its almost as if our laws do nothing to actually prevent these things from occurring

4:50 they were trying to stop Annie from turning into the female titan dude

Well for those interested, if you thought that knife laws in Canada were bad, well they just got worst! I just came of the phone with a CBSA officer regarding another of my knives that got seized (the 4th or 5th in 5 months!). This one was the Twosun TS40 that I bought on Ebay for about $40. If you look it up, you’ll see that it’s a regular titanium flipper, nothing special about it. I thought that for sure this one would not be seized since it cannot be open by centrifugal force (I have a friend that has one and I checked). Now, the knife runs on ball bearings and is extremely smooth. So when I inquired to why the knife had been seized, I was told that it falls under the classification of automatic knives since pressing the flipper tab leads to the blade open all the way into the locking position. I mentioned to him 2 points that were mentioned in the Memorandum D19-13-2 which is the laws for importing weapons which I am sure you are aware if you are watching this video. 1) Section 21-a states the following: An automatic knife that houses a blade that will open automatically by hand pressure applied to a lever or button in or attached to the handle (but not on the blade) of the knife. I mentioned that the flipper tab is attached to the blade and not the handle and therefore it is not an automatic knife 2) I questioned about torsion assisted flippers that are perfectly legal (as stated in section 22) and the blade deploys into the locking position when the flipper tab is exercised To my surprise, I got informed that the Memorandum had just been revised as of yesterday (November 3rd 2016) to specifically address these 2 issues. Here’s the new revised paragraph on automatic knives (now section 18 a): (a) Automatic knife - An automatic knife is one that houses a blade that will open automatically by applying hand pressure to a button, spring, lever, or other device, in or attached to the handle of the knife, including knives that have a button, spring, lever, or other device, located in the spine of the handle and attached to the inner part of the blade. Note: Knives that have a ‘thumb stud’ attached to the blade of the knife, that is independent of the handle (not protruding from the handle in the closed or folded position), and that open automatically by applying pressure to the thumb stud, do not generally meet the above definition of a prohibited weapon, and as such do not generally fall under TI 9898.00.00. However, if such a knife is found to also open by gravity or by the application of centrifugal force alone, it may still be considered to be prohibited. The misuse of knives may nonetheless be punishable under other laws. So now it specifically targets regular flippers as well. Also, the exemption for torsion assisted knives has been removed so they will fall under this category as well. Here’s a link to the updated Memorandum www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/dm-md/d19/d19-13-2-eng.pdf So now, basically 95% of flippers (at least the good ones that can flip) will be illegal to import into Canada. - If the detente is too weak, they will fall under the centrifugal law and be seized - If the détente is good and strong so the knife can actually flip, they will fall under the automatic law and will be seized. This is pretty ridiculous and sad for Canadian knife collectors. You would think that there would be better uses for our taxes money or better ways to fight REAL crime than doing this. This will not change the crime rate by any mean, the only thing it will do is penalize knife enthusiasts in Canada. Also with existing stupid knife laws in many countries for decades, you would think that over time, things would get better, not worst! We’re stepping backwards instead of stepping forward.

I'm from Brazil and the same silly arguments are used here to prohibit people from have fire guns. Like you said, if you're a lawbreaker, you can buy the gun in the black market. These laws just punishes good people that wish to protect themselves.

Here in my state of Tennessee all bladed weapons are totally legal to carry. I have a butterfly knife and switchblade I normally carry. But I can wear a 1 foot bowie or a 2 hand sword if I want.

The question for me is: If the blade is blunt, is it still illegal to own such blade. It doesn't affect the hobby of collecting the knives, since the usage is not intended.

Portugal: swichblades are illegal; butterfly knives are illegal; throwing knives are illegal; shuriken are illegal; knives disguised as other objects (canes, walking stick, pen) are illegal; stilleto knives are illegal; any knives/blades not directly related with hunting, sports (but you nedd to be in a sports club), collecting (but you need a collectors licence for this) are illegal; any knives with more than 10 cm of blade are illegal. Swords are included in the class F of weapons, you need a licence and you can only own one sword. Welcome to worlds shittiest place to start a knive or sword collection. Amanzingly i can own a shitload of axes!!

We need to ban pillows because people can smother others with them

I thought intimidation prevents damages.

I think the reason behind a lot of our rediculous laws here in Canada is because we are a nanny state. Healthcare may be great but it comes at a cost. To keep healthcare affordable the government feels the need to restrict certain things deemed a harm to others or the person using it. More trips to the hospital because of negligance = more money being shelled out and the money has to come from somewhere (our taxes) so basically everytime someone goes to the hospital we all pay meaning that in order to keep costs down and people from getting pissed about taxes they think that restricting peoples accesibility to certain things will prevent accidental injury. Sorry if I can't explain it that well I'm half awake haha. Healthcare here in Canada is a blessing and very much a curse and really doesn't matter in the end because what an American would pay in medical we already pay in taxes and everyday cost of living here (things are more expensive here blah blah blah) It's a tough call I think whether to have "free" (notice the quotations) healthcare or not.

WELCOME TO THE NETHERLANDS: You can own a metal baseball bat, but you can't own a butterfly knife. Did i metnion you can own bowie knives with a blade length of 30 centimeters? But a butterfly knife, no, people use those for stabbing. But who stabs someone with another type of knife, right?! xD Also, we should not ban cars, even though, if you want to, you can kill dozens of people with it, without any chance of them fighting back. ... When people view something as a threat, people become scared, those people teach their kids to be scared, and they become terrified, those in turn teach THEIR kids, and when they get to power, they ban everything that scares them, without any other reason than doubtful statistics, as a half-assed solution.

in america we have most these bans as well and we can own rifles and other firearms quite easily yet we cant have a knife that drops outta the handle how does that work?

That utility ring knife was in common use (and readily available), when I started work at the USPS. Back then, most bundled mail was tied with string, later use of heat fused plastic banding, rendered them obsolete.

You should move to The United States so you don’t have to deal with all of this crap

.....im sure criminals will follow these laws.

I live in Canada, and yeah I really don't see much of a difference between a switch blade and an assisted opening knife. I'm just glad they allow assisted openers, they'll probably just ban those next, we don't get any fun stuff up here.

If I'm not mistaken, there use to be a law in Italy that determined that any kind of knife that opens should make noise in the process.

Five years later, Skallagrim is still chaotic good

Canadian here. Subscribed for funny Monster Hunter video, stayed for facepalming at our silly laws. Anyway, I just wanted to tell the tale of long ago. I bought a sword. It was in a box. I was walking it out of the mall and a security guard stopped me. Apparently, even in the box, it wasn't allowed to carry a "blade in excess of six inches"through the mall. Sooooooo... you could buy the sword there but you couldn't get out of the mall with it. It used to be way dumber so maybe by the year 2600 or so they'll how silly they're being.

The problem with these absurdities is that if legislators start addressing them, they're more likely to make the laws even worse. They'd rather ban something that was legal, than legalize something that was banned.

this is my first time commenting first thing i love your vids and really enjoy them.just got a question for you do you happen to know if carrying a tomahawk in general public in the city in canada is legal or illegal i know in canada you can pretty much carry any type of size knife,machete or sword but you better damn well have a good reason for it,but i never here anything about tomahawks and i can't seem to find any kind of info.on them,so i just thought i would try my luck and see.thank you for all the great vids,and keep them comin'.

Wait, one or more loops, a band of metal... YOU MEAN A RING CANADA?

lmao wedding bands count as knuckle dusters WTF

"Band of metal that can fit over one or more fingers..." Rings

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Hey Skallagrim, Would a Rangergrip 57 Swiss army knife and skipper swiss army knife be also part of the ban?

Skall, you always bring me the best rants. I fucking love what you do man. Been watching your stuff for years. I hope you don't mind that I give you some shout outs in my upcoming videos. I'll make sure I give you and your channel some good plugs. Keep doing what you're doing man, for real. You're super knowledgeable, well read, well spoken, and definitely a guy I could see being a close friend if we ever hung out. Don't mean to sound creepy but I mean it. Keep doing you brother. Myself and all of your fans appreciate everything you do. Keep up the good work, because as long as you're making videos I promise I'll be watching. You've never made a single video I didn't at least enjoy a little bit. Be the best and fuck the rest man! You've inspired me to pick up my collecting again after it was put on a very long hiatus. Glad to have found one my passions again. Thanks for everything brother!!! And by the way, I don't care what anyone says, your hair always looks awesome.

I find it difficult to believe Canada has free speech.

I Have a question so knuckle knives like the 1918 trench knife with individual finger holes is a prohibited weapon but what about D guard knives with and with out studs?

8:40 So what is the valid reason to conceal a blade? I do nto want to cause panic?

The reason why the automatic knife and the ballisong are banned is because those particular designs have become so famous (because of movies) they are very desired by teenagers. That used to cause a lot of incidents in schools and such places. Other knife designs simply don't draw so much attention from the teenagers. It's kinda stupid, but it works to some extent.

you'll be happy to know that we can still own a flamethrower though. although, canada did just shoot itself in the head with an election, that might change.

"A band of metal, with one or more fingerholes, designed to fit over the fingers of the hand"? Does that prohibit Rings? I mean, gold and silver are metals as well....

hey @Skallagrim, how does that push dagger law deal with hand saws, like the woodworking kind with handles set perpendicular to the blade so you can cut wood in the same motion you would shift a mouse forward and backwards, since, like stated above, they have blades perpendicular to their handles. also, if you removed the parts separating the fingers on a brass knuckles, so it was kind of a metal oval like a sword handguard, is it still illegal?

There is a solution, you know: move to Texas. It's a great place, if you can stand the weather.

There should be a law against making laws if you are not familiar with the thing you are making the law about.

Where can I get one of those things hanging from the wall behind you?

One question: how are those finger holes in brass knuckles defined? Do they habe to be designed that ony one finger fits through them or does it also count it there is one big hole where all four fingers fit? If so what about for example sabres?

Simple solution: replace all knives, guns and cars with their NERF analogs.

lol carbon fiber brass knuckles, stronger than metal, but lighter than metal :)

1:40 The difference is when the knife is in your pocket. Accidentally discharging the weapon in your pocket is much easier with a button on the side.

Kabar TDI for EDC good or bad in Canada? I just bought this knife and was wondering

Don't be too surprised. The people in charge are often not the ones with brains and or common sense.

You should ban stupid law makers :-) that should solve the most problems ;-) it should give only one law, don't hurt any other people withe one exception for self defence.

Korea has a "License to carry a blade", and you need one for each bladed weapon. However, you can have almost any kind of blade as long as you don't carry them around in public.

they took my assault knife ..

Can you please come to Canada and talk some sense into these ignorant law makers. Come on eh? No but actually.. You really should.

In France they at least found a a "good" reason to ban switchblades: they banned all types of knives that have a blade that flick open with the help of a spring (that of course includes assisted opening knives). It is apparently for "safety" reasons, even though you are not allowed to carry a weapon of this category on you and you have to transport it in a bag and have a good reason to transport it as well. FUN FACT: In France it is an absolute nightmare to be a weapon hobbyist because you need a lot of licenses for "safety" reasons. BUT a french citizen is allowed to freely buy gunpowder and store up to 2kg of it at your home (which is way more than enough to kill you and blow up your house). So yeah Your laws actually make more sense than ours, Canada!

One of the blades I have is so badly kept that the blade just moves on its own, do I have an illegal gravity knife now?

What is the assisted opening knife you are using I thought the blade was interesting like a rounded tanto

Why not instead of making these "weapons" illegal, educate people in their use and defense against them? Seems kinda silly since (in my opinion) many "weapons" are tools. For example, these knives that were shown, they look like tools rather than a weapon made to kill, to me.Then again, I've seen someone cut their meat with a sword, which IS a weapon. That was an amusing night. Anyway, education in my opinion is the way to go.

"The nuclear bomb argument" Wait, that's a thing?! I mean, I've used grenades in arguments for people saying they have a right to a SAW M249 (for self defense..? sport..?) but never heard anyone use nukes in any arguments.

@skallagrim what about tactical pens? is there anything against carrying one of those in my trouser's pockets?

When I was in grade 6 I had a wooden ruler with a metal strip (it was bought at Woolworths). The teacher said it was a weapon and I was suspended for a week. What was that metal strip for?

I have one switch blade knife. Fuck the gov't, they're not going to stop me from collecting.

Good arguement....law makers in canada live in lala land, they paint rainbows and pee skittles....

The only thing I can think when looking at the list is they were attempting to ban piercing/stabbing optimized knives. The most common iterations of the banned knives have a dagger style blade (which shows the differentiation with the Ulu knife as it's often a crescent blade). I suppose the idea being that dagger style blades don't provide any inherent benefit to legal uses of the blade

i have i difrent wahat tool i will be useful for shelf protection ?

My dad used "finger ring blades" in the military to open cans! What are we going to take someones face off with the automatic ones these days?!?

Do you know anything about the legality of a hidden blade that only uses spring only to retract? I made one a while ago. It is brought out by gravity/a swing of the arm.

Never knew ring blades existed. Now i have a reason to keep building my collection.

Question I didn't understand one part are knives with a flipper legal or illegal

Okay. if I decide to play around with a butterfly knife, and in my ignorance slice my arm open. I deserved it. That makes me a dumbass.

Nice vest. Here in Alabama USA, there are no laws prohibiting what weapons you can have. There are however four weapons you are not allowed to carry around town. First one is a sling shot, you know, the rubber powered kind. Why would that be banned? I have no idea. I looked into the history of it and there was none. Just one day this law was there. The second item is "brass knuckles." The definition is VERY broad here. Basically anything that fits over the knuckles. The definition is so broad that anything other than actually knuckle dusters would most likely be thrown out of court. The third item are cane rifles or shotguns. This is a very old law when cane guns were somewhat popular. You can throw a rifle or shotgun across your back and walk just about anywhere you please, just make sure it does not have a cane handle. Lastly, Bowie knives are banned to be carried around town. The definition of a Bowie knife is kind of odd though. To be a Bowie knife by legal definition, it must be at least 11 inches in total length, it must be a fixed blade, and it must be single edged. So you can carry a great sword all you like, but not a Katana. Sabers are out, but a gladius is fine.

Anyone have an idea regarding the legality of tactical pens? I had one with fuller groves on it. Went missing a while back. I miss it.

So if I sharpen my spring car keys it makes it illegal???

I love blades, any kind of blades, and this since I was a young lad. I have collected over many years and own many swords and all kind of knives. However, while Canada is a great country, long outdated laws, interpretation of legislation, more and more of my knives being seized and the overall public perception about knives in general makes me want to completely stop collecting. Yes, I said collecting. While I always carry a knife on my person, I've never used it in any fight or used one with the intent to hurt anyone. I use them either as a tool or I play with them as with any collection. So why should I (and many others like me) be penalized? I wouldn't be penalized if I collected kitchen knives? What's the difference? Now, what is really the problem? 1) Outdated laws. Switchblades, OTF, balisongs, etc... all banned because of a bad perception of these knives introduced in Hollywood movies from the 80s. Anyone that has ever handled a balisong will tell you that it is probably the least effective weapon of all. As for the switchblades and OTF, I can open my thumb stud folders as fast as those. 2) While these laws are outdated for the particular type of knives mentioned above, IT IS THE LAW (unfortunately)! So really nothing I can complain about if I try to import one of those and they get seized.What really pisses me off is that, on top of these laws being outdated and making no sense, we have the CBSA, a bunch of way overpaid people, with very limited knowledge of knives in general, that consider themselves the country’s police. In fact, their knowledge of knives and legislation itself is so limited, that they misinterpret the written law as they see fit in order to ban whatever they WISH to ban.After all, they have a well-paid government job that they want to keep and if they don’t show results and don’t seize anything, then maybe not so many people are needed and they might lose their golden egg!One term that they love to use is the term Centrifugal knife, which makes no sense to me as I don’t believe the opening method of a knife should have nothing to do with how dangerous it is (because it is does, the most dangerous knife is a fixed blade since it’s always opened but those are legal).So basically, any type of knife that will have a weaker detent will open if shaken hard enough and will fall under this classification. That’s what they call their famous flick of the wrist. And let me tell you, some of these officers must have some very strong wrists. I’ve had some knives seized that I was able to export to the US. When later inspecting them, some I would have to try 2 or 3 times and shake them as hard as I could in order for the blade to pop out! And let's not forget that, in my experience, about 90% of the knives that can be bought in Canadian retail stores can be opened that way, but I guess those are legal since they are for sale in Canada! Then comes the knives with flipper tabs (my favorite kind of folder). I once called CBSA to get some info about their legality. The answer that I got was that flippers by themselves are not illegal HOWEVER, if when the officer applies pressure to the tab, the blade comes out all the way into its locking position, then it will be considered an automatic knife and therefore illegal.So now here’s the problem: If the detent is weak, they’ll shake the knife, the blades comes out, it’s a centrifugal knife, prohibited.If the detent is strong, they won’t be able to make the blade pop out so it’s not a centrifugal knife BUT, since more force will be needed to break the detent, then the blade will mostly fly out when it does into the locking position, therefore it’s an auto and illegal. 3) My last point is regarding the hope that you have the possibility to make an appeal.While technically yes, you can, I haven’t seen a single appeal being lost by CBSA. The tribunal will always rule in their favor no matter the arguments shown, so in reality, you don’t have a chance of an appeal. So to conclude a fairly long rant, Canadian knife laws are outdated, public perception of knives is wrong, CBSA interprets the law as they see fit, they have the power to ban ANY knife if they want to and there’s at this point in time, nothing you can do about it. Not the best place to be a knife enthusiast.

That's the funny thing about most laws my friend. They're often senseless. It's all about that illusion of safety.

Ive been designing a knife that combines brass knuckle handle, OTF automatic blade, nunchaku style secondary rod that also is a balisong.

What was that first assisted opening knife you showed?

The german knife laws are even more stupid. You are'nt allowed to carry a knife wich you can open with one hand an locks the blade, and so on . Thats so stupid because i can carry a fixed blade .

Don't cut rope. It's hard to make. Go look at LindyBeige's video.

Thank you for your practical and humorous demonstration of what is not permitted under federal law. You should do more videos since you have an engaging style and obvious intelligence.

I get what you're saying about Push Daggers, and how other things were *designed* for one reason, but now have recreational use (IE, bow), but might I ask.. what recreational/sport activity uses a push dagger? I'm genuinely curious, since it was your claim

A butterfly knife isn't banned due to them being anymore dangerous in the means of crime but actually because when they caught fire and became popular loads of people bought them leading to increases (I kid you not they actually saw an increase) in ER rooms from knife related injuries (self inflicted) with fingers being lost etc. After they banned them the rates dropped significantly. This is a matter of public stupidity being avoided rather than crime prevention. . You touched on it briefly. It wasn't "sometimes" is what I'm getting across. The reason your analogy falls through is because a car is considered in the majority of cases as a necessity in North America. Imagine no cars. Butterfly knives are not. It doesn't affect society removing them it just affects collectors.

Are there any bans/restrictions/laws that you do support for weapons? Most of these kinds of arguments tend to be disagreements on where to draw the line between 'dangerous enough to be banned' and 'not dangerous enough to be banned' Do you think there should be no bans/restrictions/laws about weapon ownership or just that they should be much looser?

The issue here in NY is that the Assisted Opening bit isn't included in the law, so technically they can fall under the switchblade law because it deploys a mechanism in the handle. My fully manual knife can even be seen as illegal when its perfectly centered because it can be opened with a flick with they argue is centrifugal force.

I live in new York but, in Canada are trainer blades illegal in canada on balisongs?