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Komo-Tec Lotus EXIGE EX460 Nordschleife Full Lap  

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Komo-Tec Lotus Exige V6 EX460
Testsession with the Pistenclub on the famous Nordschleife...
Testing some Suspension Setups and Inlet Temperature Check in Race Conditions of the 460 Kit.
Dry Afternoon Stints after a thypical Eifel Morning with heavy Rain an Red Flag. Outside Temperatures 30 Degrees.
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@Murphy252000
@Murphy252000 6 лет назад
Fast but wtf was that BMW? whoooooosssSSSSHHHH……..
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 6 лет назад
M3 GTR E46. Full Spec Race Car on Slicks...really nice Car !!!
@elainericketts8820
@elainericketts8820 5 лет назад
E46 M3's.....DAMN.............
@notjulesatall
@notjulesatall 5 лет назад
Probably a Schirmer
@BavariaR
@BavariaR 4 года назад
yep horse power alone does not do the trick, it helps but what you need is grip, proper suspension and alignment setting, slicks, lightweight, down force and skills.... power comes on top as a goody. Still a great performance of the Lotus
@RavenGTR79
@RavenGTR79 4 года назад
@@vineyardfancy9228 I thought that car looked familiar...regardless both of which are track monsters.
@grandlotus1
@grandlotus1 6 лет назад
I see Porsches are a staple of your diet.
@grandlotus1
@grandlotus1 5 лет назад
The pass at 4:24 is thrilling.
@raimmartin2804
@raimmartin2804 3 года назад
But not M3s
@jeremyb4493
@jeremyb4493 3 года назад
@@raimmartin2804 the way that m3 pulled away after the lotus caught up in traffic, regardless of the weight difference of the vehicles, the m3 had some serious power/tq.
@doughnuts5364
@doughnuts5364 3 года назад
@@jeremyb4493 actually not that much more powerful tho just racecar slicks and suspension etc
@schwinnbiking
@schwinnbiking 3 года назад
@@raimmartin2804 yep not stock m3 lol
@SolsticeHard
@SolsticeHard 3 года назад
What a car, what a driver. 10/10 Colin Chapman would be proud of that car.
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 3 года назад
Thx Mate... Really appreciate that👍
@goodfodder
@goodfodder 4 года назад
It’s not often you see a porsche gt3 ‘getting in the way’
@robertkirk4387
@robertkirk4387 4 года назад
or out of
@lukehuang4225
@lukehuang4225 4 года назад
@@robertkirk4387 Exactly right. Check out "Nordschleife BTG 07:58.07 with obstacles", a GT3 got in the way of a Miata... for minutes! It's epic.
@kmannc
@kmannc 3 года назад
lol you'd be surprised, a lot of GT3's at the track with scared drivers behind the wheel. They tip toe through the corners then just drive fast down the straights.
@ForzaWiz11
@ForzaWiz11 Год назад
@@kmannc Porsche is all over the top the leaderboards for production car too. Definitely drivers
@kaspeer
@kaspeer 9 месяцев назад
@@ForzaWiz11 Absolutely agree with you. That's the same with all the cars, the drivers does the difference, no matter the car you have, if you don't know how to drive it then you're slow
@angry.8
@angry.8 6 лет назад
That e46!
@Z4coupeuk
@Z4coupeuk 4 года назад
I came back here just to watch the M3 move up the pack and move through a different time zone as it passes!
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 4 года назад
Same as me than I passed the GT3 😉
@aeph7068
@aeph7068 3 года назад
Nice for you
@PaddyMcQueen
@PaddyMcQueen 2 года назад
I came back here just to read funny fanboyz comments 🤣
@seivaDsugnA
@seivaDsugnA 2 года назад
Nürburgring is on the international date line? People on porches are slowing Earth's rotation.
@Dom1a
@Dom1a 2 года назад
@@vineyardfancy9228 yea but the M3 left you as well lol
@robertd4468
@robertd4468 5 лет назад
The more I watch what Lotus cars can do the more impressed I am. Not the build quality of the 911 but damn they’re fast.
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 5 лет назад
so come over to the Fancy Side...Porsches are Good...LOTUS much more emotional
@BlatentlyFakeName
@BlatentlyFakeName 4 года назад
The modern ones are pretty well built. You just don't get a fancy interior because it's supposed to be light. The composite materials and aluminium etc is all top quality stuff. Toyota engines and gearboxes too so they don't go wrong.
@SolsticeHard
@SolsticeHard 3 года назад
From Lotus: At the root of our DNA is Colin Chapman's obsession with light weight. “Simplify, then add lightness”, he said. It was his philosophy, way before 'minimalism' became fashionable. “Adding power makes you faster on the straights; subtracting weight makes you faster everywhere”, was another of Chapman's premises. That mindset gave to them 7 championships. Lotus has f1 DNA
@seivaDsugnA
@seivaDsugnA 2 года назад
There's not much to "qualityize" in a Lotus. It's not going on holiday, mate.
@primokona
@primokona 11 месяцев назад
Exige and Europa been on my next list of toys to get
@lamascotapan
@lamascotapan 6 лет назад
This is one of the Best road race video's I've seen in a long time.
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 6 лет назад
Thx so much for watching...i could improve myself a lot after that ;-) will do a new Session soon.
@B525shot
@B525shot 4 года назад
That M3 came straight outta Rockport city. The lotus is a bullet though. 👍
@Gabson9
@Gabson9 3 года назад
1:11 - they will never achieve that classic angry and elegant bmw look again
@Vollgasmus7
@Vollgasmus7 3 года назад
The sound when you hit the rev limiter - wow, gives me goosebumps 😍
@cymaticCS
@cymaticCS 5 лет назад
That BMW though... I'm in love... xD
@jimsmith9912
@jimsmith9912 5 лет назад
I wish my Lotus 350 was that quick!!! Awesome stuff. Wundabar!!!
@martinm3422
@martinm3422 4 года назад
Great camera angle, great drive. Congrats.
@freud2695
@freud2695 6 лет назад
Bloody Hell Man - Definite respect !
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 6 лет назад
Thx Mate...that was the first Rollout with some new Parts and i was not pushing as much as i can. I thought that the 911 is warming up his Tires. After some Corners it was clear that both are not fast. Actuall the Car has a much better Aero and some new Dampers with new Geo Settings and more than 45PS more. But a Exige is not a Nordschleifen Car, it`s a Weapon on GP Courses.
@MrLiipasin
@MrLiipasin 4 года назад
Started watching video, tried to give thumbs up, impossible, already watched and thumbed up, and did not even remember! Thank you for the video and perfect in car angle!
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 4 года назад
Thx for watching... After a big MTB Crash there will come new Videos soon. Next Step BMW M4
@danieldebarros4908
@danieldebarros4908 7 лет назад
Very good! I loved the race.
@makingtutorial9761
@makingtutorial9761 3 года назад
Its incredible ! Just 🔥
@VantageNoir
@VantageNoir 4 года назад
That has to be one of the best drivers cars of today.
@Grenadieros
@Grenadieros 9 месяцев назад
Congratulations, awesome driving, greetings from Greece !
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 9 месяцев назад
Thx for watching mate 🏁 big hug to Greece
@MA-ed3wl
@MA-ed3wl 2 года назад
Your lotus is a plane and the BMW a starship !
@Fastfishracing
@Fastfishracing 5 лет назад
Love it!
@mikepettit1105
@mikepettit1105 5 лет назад
Noticed that e46 lying in wait at 0.21. When the Lotus goes by, he says not so fast!
@t1ny03
@t1ny03 2 года назад
Wow. . Absolutely insane. Kudos to all
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 2 года назад
Thx for watching Mate👍
@MP_pov
@MP_pov 4 года назад
What a ride! Very well set up suspension. Looks like you'd use a slightly longer 3rd gear in some sections
@renaultclio1400
@renaultclio1400 Год назад
Very good setup for the Nordschleife.
@doctauglyd9861
@doctauglyd9861 Год назад
Good for him man
@jimsmith9912
@jimsmith9912 5 лет назад
Fantastic drive in your Lotus Exige. You are a great driver. Only improvement would be smoother steering but it is pretty hard when the car is jumping around Good work mate. Cheers, Jim.
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 5 лет назад
Thank you so much... The Car is not perfect for the Ring. The actual Spec is much better with new Aero Parts especially the big rear Wing. Alitech Shifter and wider Tires. But Nordschleife is no lotus land 👊 Thx for watching mate
@EAD_0
@EAD_0 5 лет назад
at the beginning it looks like your passing parked cars ! holy shit that thing is rapid !
@stubones
@stubones 7 лет назад
Great driving :)
@SubboyGTR
@SubboyGTR 4 года назад
Super impressive! The sound of the Camry lump is awesome!
@typ930
@typ930 6 лет назад
The e46 kicked assssss!!!!!
@metrichotrods1763
@metrichotrods1763 3 года назад
Seeing the daylight under that E46 when he went off that rise 😅😅😅😅 holy shit
@lostinvr9547
@lostinvr9547 8 лет назад
sehr geil! mega lap
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 8 лет назад
Thx for Watching ;-)
@johnsullivan937
@johnsullivan937 5 лет назад
holy hell you gave that m3 a run for its money in the twisties
@kfd308
@kfd308 7 лет назад
Magnificent!
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 7 лет назад
Thx for watching...
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 7 лет назад
Thx for watching...
@bobs9242
@bobs9242 4 года назад
I really like your driving, you are clearly a veteran
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 4 года назад
Thx for watching... Too old to die young😂
@josebonanno5382
@josebonanno5382 4 года назад
excelent!
@atomicorang
@atomicorang 2 года назад
Very good.
@shawnweed265
@shawnweed265 3 года назад
This guy is Flyyyyyyiiiinnngggg
@lecbloo
@lecbloo 7 лет назад
fantastic driving !!
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 7 лет назад
Thx so much for watching !
@Silverbullet04
@Silverbullet04 4 года назад
The suspension on this car...yum.
@9hundred67
@9hundred67 5 лет назад
Super!!
@00TBKProductions00
@00TBKProductions00 4 года назад
Good vid. A few there did not want to get passed by a Lotus!
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 4 года назад
Business as usual ;-)
@TurboMoz
@TurboMoz 7 лет назад
nice driving
@mariusbosincianu4302
@mariusbosincianu4302 4 года назад
spettacolo 😎
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 4 года назад
Thx a lot👍
@0669249
@0669249 6 лет назад
that was fun to watch. nice driving
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 6 лет назад
Thx for watching...2018 will come a lot more from this lovely Track ;-)
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 6 лет назад
Thx a lot...i could improove myself and the Car a lot. Will do a new One in 2018
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 5 лет назад
@LogicalSense Thx for watching... This Year I will start in the lotus Europe cup
@barle5566
@barle5566 2 года назад
Insane!
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 2 года назад
Thx for watching... Only a Test😉
@9hundred67
@9hundred67 6 лет назад
Super!
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 6 лет назад
Thx for watching ;-) See you on Track !
@Rob-vv5yn
@Rob-vv5yn 6 лет назад
Awesome car, driven
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 6 лет назад
Thx for watching !
@gollum3232
@gollum3232 4 года назад
That was fun to watch, it looked like he was flying. A data overlay would have been nice.
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 4 года назад
Thx for watching Mate !
@potedude
@potedude 5 лет назад
Zero tyre squeal. Nice driving!
@BlatentlyFakeName
@BlatentlyFakeName 4 года назад
You usually don't get any on a Lotus, until about 0.01 second before it flings you off the track :P
@DavidDavid-jl3dh
@DavidDavid-jl3dh 2 года назад
SUPER CAR!!!
@1msorry1
@1msorry1 2 года назад
Great driving, bro. You handle this car properly.
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 2 года назад
Thx for watching Mate
@1msorry1
@1msorry1 2 года назад
@@vineyardfancy9228 do you still have this car? i think I'm in love, and plan to buy one this year.
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 2 года назад
@@1msorry1 sorry to say...NO...it`s sold. I had a big MTB Crash and it was not possible for a long Time to drive 3 Pedals. Get ONE...you will love it !!!
@und13s
@und13s 6 лет назад
Crazy fast !!!!
@Maody66TV
@Maody66TV 8 лет назад
Wow, sehr sehr stramm. Hut ab! Nee, Hüte ab! **Daumen hoch**
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 8 лет назад
Vielen Dank👍aber da geht schon noch einiges.
@Maody66TV
@Maody66TV 8 лет назад
Ich wette darauf. :-) Und deshalb hab ich auch gleich abonniert, damit ich nix verpasse. ;-)
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 8 лет назад
+Maody66 Thx...ich denke mit ein paar Mods im Bereich Aero und Achskinematik und mehr Erfahrung bei mir sollten 7.30min drin sein.
@mikeglenn3333
@mikeglenn3333 2 года назад
At what speeds were you going? It was amazing to see
@schneckenreiter11
@schneckenreiter11 2 года назад
Feines Auto! 🤩
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 2 года назад
Danke... Da steckt viel Zeit und Liebe drin das es so fährt. Mittlerweile allerdings verkauft
@ralmslb
@ralmslb 2 года назад
2:00 lool, the rear camera being inverted horizontally was trippy on the BMW overtook xD
@AnnWahlquist
@AnnWahlquist Год назад
That BMW....🤯🤯
@lowg865
@lowg865 4 года назад
what tires did you have?great lap! thanks
@user-kv9sj8ze4r
@user-kv9sj8ze4r 4 года назад
great
@Dunserful
@Dunserful 8 лет назад
Hui! Hammer!!!
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 8 лет назад
Thx Linnard ;-) NBR GP mit der Seven IG ?
@Dunserful
@Dunserful 8 лет назад
+Vineyard FANCY Jep! da bin ich dabei :)
@barryphillips7327
@barryphillips7327 2 года назад
A pity Sabine Schmitz is no longer with us, to do laps of this track, she was much too young and beautiful to be gone so soon.
@PaddyMcQueen
@PaddyMcQueen 2 года назад
All the comments about the "m3" are so funny. Fanboys🤣🤣 Epic lotus drive and car specs btw, Clean lines and good shifting! You deserve that car 100% !
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 2 года назад
Thx Mate... Not everyone is clear that the Lotus is Road Legal and the M3 is a real GTR.
@PaddyMcQueen
@PaddyMcQueen 2 года назад
@@vineyardfancy9228 beeemer fanboys have an average QI of 30 so don't worry. XF
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 2 года назад
@@PaddyMcQueen I have to say... I have a Beamer as well 😂
@PaddyMcQueen
@PaddyMcQueen 2 года назад
@@vineyardfancy9228 yeah but it s your second car so it doesn t count 😋
@unexplainedwearenotalone3537
@unexplainedwearenotalone3537 6 лет назад
Porches is just slow against lotus is beast but u dope drive feel the car and ring bravo.
@MixedRealitySimRacing
@MixedRealitySimRacing 8 лет назад
Nice lap! So many slow Porsches, they should sell a GT3 RS only to customers that proofed to drive relatively good with it.
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 8 лет назад
Absolut Right...
@GreatTrollRacer
@GreatTrollRacer 8 лет назад
If they simply started by selling them to customers who track regularly, it would be a good start...
@ibizalover2000
@ibizalover2000 7 лет назад
Or maybe they are not as fast as the propaganda has made you believe.
@45Rand0m
@45Rand0m 6 лет назад
thats a pretty dumb thing to say. idk whyin your world you have to be a good enough driver to race to get a porsche.
@thelordofeternalfireandhis4033
They're like yeah we used Porsche because it's the best handling car on the most hellish track road in the world.
@doctorcountersteer6580
@doctorcountersteer6580 3 месяца назад
Dog gone those turtles!!!
@AJ-qy7bq
@AJ-qy7bq 5 лет назад
The way your thigh is hitting the shifter stressed me out.
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 5 лет назад
Me as well... The reason why I changed the shifter after that. Now it's Alitech installed
@Saif0412
@Saif0412 4 года назад
Yeah that looks worrying. 😣
@romanbabich4460
@romanbabich4460 4 года назад
This bmw e46 m3 daaaaaaaaaaamn!
@JoaoFernandes-vw8gg
@JoaoFernandes-vw8gg 4 года назад
I would position the wiper blade in a vertical position, besides that TOP Exige! I own a Elise 111S.
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 4 года назад
Yes... Looks nice but it's a Clam off job and a bit too expensive only for a better look
@aleman9922
@aleman9922 3 года назад
FORTE FORTE
@emierv6
@emierv6 7 лет назад
Awesome :) - can you recommend verified geometry setting for NS - on Elise (stock 250 Cup) ? (Especially camber, etc...) How much shimplates in front (or in rear) take off? ...Thx for info
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 7 лет назад
for a Elise i would prefer - 1,7 in Front ;-) with wider Tires - 205 ...take a look at the new Nankang AR1
@Gentlemen_london_
@Gentlemen_london_ 4 года назад
Just when you thought you were living the dream.... an M3 GTR makes you look like your going in reverse! 😂😆👊💪👍
@Saif0412
@Saif0412 4 года назад
He is, Exige with 400 plus bhp is still superfast,
@GreatTrollRacer
@GreatTrollRacer 8 лет назад
Nice lap! How much time can you run this vehicle, before the need to refuel ? Any overheating issues?
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 8 лет назад
with the normal Spec Fueltank 4 Laps...with the Upgrade from KT i think it`s possible to do 6-7 Laps. Overheating is no Problem...it`s chargecooled and works really fine.
@JH-qu8hi
@JH-qu8hi Год назад
laughing my ass off, so good a driver, amazing car
@marioskalogeropoulos7054
@marioskalogeropoulos7054 4 года назад
THOSE TURNS MA FRIEND........TRAIN,TRAAAAIN!!! I'LL BUY A LOTUS EXIGE 380/410 AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.UNTIL THEN I'LL HAVE FUN WITH MY M4 M SERIES I BOUGHT THIS SUMMER! P.S I FELL IN LOVE WITH LOTUS ELISE SINCE GRAND TOURISMO 2 AND LOOKS EVEN BETTER IN PERSON.I'VE NEVER DRIVE ONE OR SIT ON PASSENGER'S SIDE BUT I KNOW I WILL!! HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!
@alexei3401
@alexei3401 6 лет назад
That BMW was well fast!! im suprised it overtook the lotus
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 6 лет назад
Yes it was FAST ! A lovely Car but a fully Race Spec Car with Slicks...the Lotus is Road legal ;-)
@alexei3401
@alexei3401 6 лет назад
Vineyard FANCY, Yeah i doubt that BMW was road legal but really good driving anyway!
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 6 лет назад
it was the first Time to Test the Car with that Specs on this Track. It was a pity that i was not pushing enough behind the 991 GT3...i thought that he warm up his Tires and i don`t want to be an Iditot to overtake him and after that slow him down...but he was not Fast to catch up and so i lost a lot of Time behind him. Next Time i will be more Clever and more aggresive ;-)
@dm9103
@dm9103 4 года назад
I've heard of slow in/fast out, never fast in/fast out lol
@alexandersiebert4302
@alexandersiebert4302 4 года назад
Nice driving man. But what happened at 5:15?
@user-si4zw1jk2e
@user-si4zw1jk2e 5 лет назад
오우야
@user-qo6if5bo9i
@user-qo6if5bo9i 4 года назад
0:40 look at his legs hit the shifter stick
@Youtube.edited
@Youtube.edited 3 года назад
Reckon that badass e46 was gt car.
@baddyfannytm1277
@baddyfannytm1277 3 года назад
😍😎
@strielokaslt
@strielokaslt 4 года назад
And as you can see porche is still behind us
@tomasengelmajer4634
@tomasengelmajer4634 3 года назад
Under 8 with a manual :-) Impressive beyond words.
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 3 года назад
Thx for watching... Its not the perfect Car for NS. Its more a GP Track Weapon. Too bumpy for the old Course
@tomasengelmajer4634
@tomasengelmajer4634 3 года назад
@@vineyardfancy9228 Exactly, that is what I thought. I love Lotus and the story and emotional way of driving it brings. I am going after EVORA because I am simply not as ultimate driver for Exige and I do need more GT character in the car. I have Lexus "F" cars and they are also plenty underestimated and underrated for what they can bring in drivers experience area. Keep on driving safe. Good Luck.
@BlatentlyFakeName
@BlatentlyFakeName 3 года назад
Try an Elise as well. They are less hardcore than the Exige, more comfortable to use on the road, but still quick and they are the most agile of the 3.
@sebdavid
@sebdavid 2 года назад
So how were the intake temps?
@lrodger2486
@lrodger2486 8 лет назад
Jesus that car is epic ....
@goonigoogoo5868
@goonigoogoo5868 7 лет назад
"EPIC???" what are you. a 14 year old boy best epic ever epic fail epic win epic epic epic
@mohammedsalimahmed5230
@mohammedsalimahmed5230 5 лет назад
@@goonigoogoo5868 Ironically your comment itself seems like a 14 years old made it.
@dm9103
@dm9103 4 года назад
Mental lap. Car seems to be nervous in the front end tho
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 4 года назад
Thx for watching... Not everybody got it. It was a Test not for the perfect lap...😉So we wanna see there the car needs to be getting better.
@TifBannen
@TifBannen 3 года назад
1st viddy in a while with FULL SEND through the runway.
@Jb001jb
@Jb001jb 2 года назад
02:34, is the M3 losing some fluids, or is that rubbersmoke from the tyre hitting the arches from compression?
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 2 года назад
I think it's the Tire. The E46 is a real GTr... Most of the comments didn't know what weapon that is.
@_SKDK_
@_SKDK_ 5 лет назад
THAT BMW AIN'T FUCKIN AROUND
@jimcook8933
@jimcook8933 3 года назад
I could see you started thinking of taking up golf as the BMW passed you.
@fasttracklap8480
@fasttracklap8480 Год назад
under 8. megane did that being heavier and less powerful 270hp, right ?
@alifarahani9450
@alifarahani9450 3 года назад
M3 rules!!!
@bimmer.joo34
@bimmer.joo34 4 года назад
Great driving! Im impressed how the lotus performes such a nice car. Btw what's the song name in the end??
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 4 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-thFZY_2hgts.html
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 4 года назад
Here's a on board from the beloved BMW
@maticsorn2784
@maticsorn2784 3 года назад
what the hell is with that e46 .. its faster than everything on track
@raymundjusay4632
@raymundjusay4632 4 года назад
Soooo Fassssttttt>>>>>
@Zedament
@Zedament 3 года назад
the balls on this guy... impressive
@vineyardfancy9228
@vineyardfancy9228 3 года назад
Thx for watching ✌️
@sinisini5168
@sinisini5168 3 года назад
May i ask what is the height of the driver?
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