Konami Needs to BAN These Cards... 

Remember when spright made toad + elf with 1 card, good times. Now every deck with 1 card somehow makes anything in the game with no set backs.

Linkuriboh (and by extension, Dino decks) died for Snake-Eyes's many many *many* sins.

Honestly, they should just errata Beatrice so it's only summonable via dante and a BA in hand. Yk the way the deck it was made for does it?

YuGiOh is starting to become the “game of great and terrible power” per the intro of the 4kids anime

No. Un-ban EVERYTHING & let CHAOS REIGN SUPREME!!!!!

There should have been an errata for Beatrice a LONG time ago...

If Konami doesn’t limit or ban Flamberge, soul charge needs to come off cause it makes no sense for 1 deck to have a searchable soul charge

YOU HEARD HIM, THOSE LIMITS DON'T DO ANYTHING!! MAXX C TO 1!!!

Since POTE, every deck that comes out makes a huge power creep to the rest of the meta, and that is the problem with konami.

Something that I wonder about is if this handtrap heavy meta will ever disappear, even if the banlist turns out to finally knock Snake-Eyes down a couple of pegs. Some decks have found new ratios that are more effective in combination with additional hand disruptions and while most decks didn't need many of them, this meta surely brought the attention of these players to higher handtrap ratios. If it's more effective this way, why change it even after Snake-Eyes finally gets properly incapacitated?

Beatrice for sure needs to go. Fiend smith is carazy enough without it. Send any card from deck lets them combo into Summon any fire from deck Summon any fiend from deck Search any field spell Search any normal trap Roll back turn skip Just to name a few

No thanks to Fiendsmith, Beatrice is broken and Drytron will directly and indirectly get hurt 💀

Bro the bot with the camal toe is disturbing Side note they'll prob hit Yubel before Snake Eye

Sorry cali but evenly will always be keeping a lot of things in check. I dont care if you left a few things in hand im BANISHING your entire board and then popping off myself, you can have your turn good luck

I agree Pank can go to 3, but I would say he's better than Fenrir. The easiest way to play around Fenrir is to destroy him with your first monster effect or via backrow so he doesn't get the chance to trigger. Pank doesn't have that problem, he can just chain to anything. Pank's also bigger, which means he gets to run over things more easily than Fenrir, which is relevant because they're both considered an easy +1 via monster removal since they're big enough to swing over stuff and have removal effects. As well, Pank is easier to summon. You can control monsters and still summon him, provided your opponent is up on board presence.

Delinquent Duo to 1

Puppet lock can still be done without Albion, can be done with any Fiendsmiths deck that can make rank and of course Branded still. I say ban Albion and Beatrice and Puppet, this takes away any random deck usage of it and Branded from using it and or another lock out card. 🤩 Also as dude said, if they make this banlist incorrectly Tempai will just dominate the format.

What Konami should do is not print ridiculously overpowered cards that have little to no restrictions in the first place. That way they won't need to ban cards that might help their original archetype. Beatrice could have an effect that only allows sending Burning Abyss cards. That would make her balanced. Fiendsmith should not be generic fiend support as well. Seems like Konami don't care about the game. They just want to sell new overpriced cards and then proceed to kill them in order to sell newer even more overpowered cards.

1 card combos are an issue yes but people ignore that snake eyes real problem is that on turn two Original in Grave is a 0 card combo. You can completely wipe everything and they will be able to OTK you through sometimes 2 disrupts

I keep saying this, but if the Tenpai field spell can be at 3, put Misc back to at LEAST 2. It’s basically the same card!

I use the Snake-eyes FTK in MD. It's just Snake-Eyes with 5 cards in deck (3 monsters 2 traps) and 3 extra deck slots (4 if you don't use Anima in snake-eyes). If you don't have a handtrap you don't have a turn to play.

I think putting a lot of cards on semi limited would be good because the chances of you getting your one card combos so it would force a lot of decks to diversify and it would lower the chance of being first turn killed

This format makes me wanna play stun (Also I’m glad the ravenwing sleeves are back they were my favorites)

Outside of Beatrice apoulsa and IP are fine. Just hit the main issue with snake eyes and that’s their main deck monsters. Ban flamberge , hit ash, witch , bonfire , wanted , or SOS all at 1 or 2 . Or unban older cards already.

Nibiru is the descendent of mirror force. It is a card that can get you if you don't respect it, but it requires your opponent to play into it. Mirror Force always gets negated and so does Nibiru.

No…. They need to ban 80% of broken cards or drop a new format…. People will keep leaving because of the broken unplayable games

All of the Drain series of traps are incredibly fair to balance their power; they could use an up keep cost to put a timer of to the lock, but they mean YOU have to be able to do without what your taking. Seems fair to me. . .

Drident and Barrage to 1, but unironically

That’s how I know I’ve been on auto pilot, when did Lightning Storm get semi-limited?

My crackpot approach to fixing YGO is to give every card a point value based on it's use rate, the better the more points it gets. Give players a maximum number of points per deck, and make rules for cards that have X number of points. Ex. a 7 point card can only be played at 1. Any card that isn't explicitly listed costs 0 points. Finally give players a means to vote on candidates to get point-adjusted after each banlist drops. You can vote for, or against. Or make tournaments with point-capped decks. All of a sudden really good decks either lose a bunch of consistency or their strongest generic support, really bad decks can run around at full power while making use of strong generic support, and it's the Wild West of players trying to figure out which cards offer the best bang-for-points or are underpointed. And this will result in play results + the ygo community ironing out the most overrepresented decks with regularity after each banlist adjustment resulting in a metagame constantly in flux. Enter the Wild West of YGO era

2 notes: -I like the thought of a card like Heavy Storm being banned because "having both HFD and Heavy is a little much, but just having one copy is fine, so give us the more powerful card", and I don't mind the thought process with Pankratops being that way too... but going 2nd sucks so hard that giving us Fenrir AND Pank sounds great -Gamma to 3 please.

Its crazy to me that we still have to punish pendulum for no reason but the link monster power ceiling is just ever climbing.

My friend was pissed when he thought using nibiru was gonna stop me then i proceeded to take 8k life points right after

i see Cali smart rockin the bucket hat. You can't be caught outside in this heat without it.

I used 2 imperms, ash and nibiru and fiendsmith played through it and set up a full board. That engine was a mistake lol

welp time to learn exosister the deck is good at stopping the GY plus in arc type Prohibition and eventually Seventh Tachyon to search Martha or any exo from deck

I think it’s because Konami keeps making decks with no locks. Thus causing certain extra deck monsters to go from generic to EXTREMELY generic.

Ban these cards before they SKYROCKET in price!

Idea: print a new, moderately generic fusion to replace Sanct, after banning it AND Puppet, a fusion that: -is spolyable -Only summons to opp’s field (making it unable to be used as material) and adds to hand instead of specialing to your field -forces you to take back whatever you gave in mp2 What this accomplishes: Battle phase skip which in most cases isn’t too bad Allows for punishing Branded player to be unable to fusion it away Allows opponent to be able to tribute or destroy or otherwise out the summoned monster Still adds a card that mentions “fallen of albaz” to hand to make it somewhat worth it, so long as they give an albaz monster Checks Tenpai because if they summon ido or disciple, they won’t be able to use their battle phase to summon and synchro, and will have to skip their battle phase to give back the locker, and even if they try to go into seals or some other synchro play, they’re still playing Branded.

I feel like every new format has needed a "list to save the game". I feel like over time, players are gonna get tired of needing to ask for a list for a month before a set comes out

To fix the game there have to be a LOT of bans and erratas along with a hard change in future card design. Starting with Apollousa and I:P down to errataing Snake-eye Ash and Original Sin and ending in giving every single Deck that comes after a hard in-Archetype lock. By extension if these changes are made you can get rid of cards like Droll, Shifter and super poly since endboards are not as oppresive anymore. Of course there are more cards that need to be banned but If you keep it strict after, you can actually have a fun format for once in yugioh since 2019 because there are no broken generic cards to be abused any more

how do you summon apo on the 5th summon? just link off 4 monsters? xD

Yugioh players be like "yea lets not hit the snake eyes engine: branded, shifter decks and appolousa are the problem" Snake eyes end board is literally not the problem part of the deck

I think negations need to become harder to make possibly locked behind fusion/rituals. Everything above that should only be removal.

Can't wait for Konami to ban Fabled Lurrie because that is the obvious problem to the fiendsmith cards. yep yep.

They honestly need a new master rule that limits the amount of special summons a player can do in one turn. Something like 10 special summons non extra deck, 5 for the extra

One card I absolutely think could go to 2 or 3: change of heart. Ya boy got a playset of QCRs cause he’s convinced that the card could go either semi or unlimited next list 😂

simple fix snatch steal with a non response window, just take the strongest piece on your opponent's board. Yugioh really just needs insanely strong going second cards so it can slow the pace down.

5:40 My guy, let the card designer cook! He’s cheffin’. 🤷🏽‍♂️

Skill drain affecting both players is irrelevant since one player built around not being able to use monster effects and the other one didn’t

Battle Spirits Saga just got an Evangelion set and deck. Im telling yall come thru

Ban list notes would be really nice

You always make me feel better when I'm down Cali ❤

Comparing Shifter to Nibiru is the hottest take. Disabling the graveyard for two turns is NOT the same as taking a fat token.

I agree with I:P ban. Not sure about Apollousa, dont think its much of a problem. I would ban Nibiru, it kills most rogue decks on its own and Savage/Baronne are gone. Would be even worse if Apo is gone aswell. Since you mentioned RC2 and people think there will be hits : I think Skill Drain will either be banned or limited. I would ban Kash Unicorn outright and bring back Arise-Heart. Kash engine needs a hit. Now Snake-Eyes : i would ban poplar or flamberge. People say it kills the deck too much however, another name was Oak, so i would be fine with Oak and Flamberge limit actually. Ash is not going to get hit, it just got an ultimate. I wouldnt be surprised if we just get Bonfire semi-limited and I:P banned/meaning Snake-Eyes will just stay around. Beatrice should go, Blaze Fenix should go, Sanctifire should go and same with King Calamity. Because of the thought of RC2 cards getting hit, I can see Crossout Designator getting hit to 1. I would get Gamma even back to 3 + Called By to 2. Pankatrops to 3 aswell. I would really not touch Yubel at all for this banlist. It barely has any representation. Also i would unban : - Electrumite to 1 - Supreme King Starving Venom to 1 - Zoodiac Drident to 1 - Knightmare Mermaid to 1

If they ban Beatrice we obligatorily need tier 1 burning abyss direct support! It’s been 10 years since the archetype was introduced, Beatrice was 2016 support and 2018 was the last year of direct burning abyss support with Cherubini…make burning abyss meta again! We need it!

But what if you can't deck build that well against shifter and your deck really needs the graveyard in order to do anything significant? I.E. D/D/D pure, from what I know about it, gets severely limited by shifter against decks take advantage of it.

I think the way MD tackles the Ban list better than the TCG or OCG. MD banlist focus on consistency most of the time. You still have "the main combo of the deck", but it's harder to use it. Example: Snake-eyes 3 S-Ash, 3 Bonfire, 3 Dialbell, 3 Wanted... hummmm let's cut this down. S-Ash is 1 card combo Bonfire is 1 card combo or an extender to by pass a S-Ash negated. S-Ash 1 and Bonfire to 2. You still have the 1 card combo, but it's 1 in 40 now. You still have bonfire to search it, but it's 2 in 40 now and it's harder to have both in hand to use it as extender. Diabel is a 1,5 card combo, sometimes you will need to sacrifice something to use it. Wanted solves this since it gives you a +1. Let's limit wanted to 1. You still have this engine, but it's 1 in 40. The combos are there, but they are less consistent, and this makes other decks the chance to overcome the top metadeck.

No bow of the goddess ban bro come on... you know how much she slows down all monster effect heavy decks plus how easy she is to work around??? Its bad enough we lost savage.

Should I buy the fiendsmith engine for my snake eye deck or continue playing fire king cards?

no to gamma no to apo ban...rest sounds good to me

It's at the point where I think players should take turns playing an X amount of cards in a "turn". That way both players get to play. It also doesn't help that special summoning is unlimited

Controversial opinion: if hand traps just aren't doing it, maybe a format warping card like maxx c is the card we need right now... We need the John Wick of hand traps, snake eyes killed his dog and he's having none of it

I'm ready to lose High wave king Ceaser from my ddd deck due Fiendsmith BS...

They need to limit Kings Sarcophagus. That cards multi use effect each turn to summon multiple lvl 8 monsters PLUS the ability to send cards straight to the graveyard is toxic. Limit the card to 1 or 2 max. It’s OP

Unban Brilliant Fusion, Spright Elf, Summon Sorceress, & Ronintoadin!

I hope Opening of the Spirit Gates doesn't get hit because I actually play Sacred Beasts. If they want to hit Yubel, then they should just hit Nightmare Pain

Someone how plants may get hit before branded does and I hate the thought of it.....they should just unleash everything and let us go crazy

Banned Raven Wing Sleeves!! They’re too OP!!

I think ip and appo might be hit in the next ban list (after the tins), but not on the current one. They were some of the biggest draw cards from Rarity Collection 2, it'd be too soon to ban them. That said I think Preemptively banning cards is silly because there's always going to be broken tech. It's better to let things play out as is and see how people deal with it and THEN bring a ban list vs just banning cards willy nilly and creating a new problem and having to wait 3-4 months for the next ban list. Plus not banning anything before infinite forbidden increases sales of that product. It's funny pre snake eyes we had the most versatile format in a long time, and people were asking Konami to do something about it because it make YCS hard to prepare for. Now you have a format where only a few decks are viable and now we want them to ban cards so that more decks are viable again. Yu-gi-oh community has proven time and time again, they just don't know what they want.

"Looks at pure sacred beasts deck " I'm sorry little one....is what I'll say if the limit/ semi limit spirit gate....

Dumb idea - is there someone who can program or create Cali’s list and share it somewhere to playtest? Of course, we’ll need a large enough sample of players who can play under it and see how things play. I’d love to see if Konami can somehow beta test these ideas somewhere and keep ‘em under a NDA or something … just to surprise players.

Bring back block dragon 🤴🏾👍🏽💯

I actually do not think Apo and I:P are generally bad, its the cards that come after Fiendsmith making them generally easier to build a board with little to no effort in getting to that end board, the main issue as well is that they do not errata fast enough to ensure broken stuff like this does not come into the game.

Pretty good and it would Help alot but i would Limit Fenrir and the kash fieldspell aswell cause If Not they will Play it everywhere again and i dont think Fenrir is balanced since it searches itself for some reason. I.P, Albion and Beatrice must get banned there is No way around it. For snake eyes its hard Ash to one doesnt seem to Help at all in MD cause you have Like 10 ways to get it anyways probably a bannworthy Card.

We need a nuclear ban list the amount of strategies that get buffed with IF is insane it's just not gonna be fair for most decks the next format if Konami doesn't do nothing

The reality of Konami is not going to change the advanced format. Everyone needs to play Goat and/or Edison format. Instead of simply just quitting the game. Once you play those formats the spirit of yugioh comes back. 1: So much variety of decks you can play 2: Actually winning cash prizes from tournaments. Yes cash! Just not a lot of them sadly. So support those two formats, so there can be more tournaments around. 3: There's over 20 different styles of deck people can make that has a chance to win. Compared to just 1 to 5 decks in the meta. 4:Making a deck cost is so much cheaper to build compared to advanced.

Appo is a busted card, but I think if we ban beatrice and i:p, we can see after that how appo doing. But I think in the end, ab errata is better for appo

Dinomorphia best deck

If I had to say... We need to make decks more specialized so that they can only play their monsters and severely power down generic monsters. Decks need to be specialized. If we get rid of the generic monsters that are to easy to summon with to strong effects. If you really want to play monsters with powerful effects, you need to play the exact deck to play that particular monster. If its to easy to summon with to strong of an effect. It needs to go. We need to stop the abuse of cards

Honestly once they ban apo and if they ban ip it’s the end of the extra deck. Everything sucks.

SE hits good. IP and maybe access code and albion as well as calamity but more inport crimson dragon could be banned Shifter needs to be banned and fenrir needs to go to 1.

Nib only hurts rouge decks at this point

Dropping Nibiru on a combo player's sweaty skull just doesnt hit the same now..

Hi, Nibiru. Phantom of Yubel would like a word with you

Tbh I think the fiendsmith engine is only getting so hyped because of snake eyes. It’s an engine that seems about the same level as Horus or adventure. This ban list needs to hit snake eye and we have a good format. And if you don’t wanna kill snake eyes banning oak would kill they grind game with a ash limit

OCG and TCG player : ban Beatrice!!

They alao need to hit either og sinful or wanted and diabellstar, because they have too Many 1 card comboes

The only real way to solve this continuous problem is a new master rule that straight up has a summon limit or an effect limit. The banlist as it stands now is just a temporary band aid until X future set causes the same wound to bleed again

chaos space and mag can come back to 2

My problem with 1 ash is that fiend smith gets to it no problem. I say ban flamberge

Yugioh need “Merodak, the first being” effect: If your opponent has summon 5 monsters this turn, you can activate this card in your hand: For each summon your opponent does inflict 1000 damage. That will fix every strategy 😂

droll is still super useful idk why you say its useless most decks add negates and follow ups during their combo

They're definitely not touching Runick 😂

Flamburge hit 1 means they die to ash Popular being Banned kills Snake eye

Key word “To Simple”

If flamebridge doesn’t get the ban, then mermaids and Masterplan, and Hakai have zero business on the list. Compare hands decks are either fine or they’re not. and yes, Hakai is irrelevant here, but what the hell is red doggo doing here anyway?

Bans: -Beatrice -Original sinful spoils -I:P -Apollousa -Sanctifire -Calamity Limited: -Snake eye ash -Skill drain -Pot of prosperity Do these hits and I guarantee the game will be as healthy as possible

I think banning Apollousa is a really bad idea Older decks do not function without it

Final Countdown to 3, there is no reason why it shouldn’t