This has a lot to do with the representation of Chinese people in Western media. There are thirst traps for Korea and Japan. Honestly, you just don’t really get the feeling that Americans find Chinese people hot, but it’s got at least something to do with the lack of hot Chinese people in American media. Cambodian-American writing here, we also get done dirty. 🤙🏽💀
I'm only Korean in the winter, Vietnamese in the summer, Chinese, when I do something bad, Japanese, when I do something good. This is the thought process of the majority of America, even our politicians.
This is funny because nobody can tell the difference between most of the Asians, not even Asians themselves. I know. I’m from Asia and went to Korea, Japan, China, and others. Those, even Asians, that said they can tell the difference are overestimating their abilities whether they are Asians or not. Some only know because of the language the person speaks. Think about it, if you put 100 Asians celebrities together will those that say they can tell the difference be able to differentiate them 100%, 80%, or even 50% of the time if the options are from 10 different Asian countries? No. Let’s just admit it. Most countries don’t like the Chinese government so in extension the Chinese people. In my travels, most has shown their unconscious bias and some very conscious bias towards Chinese people. I even have Chinese people telling me other Asians are better than Chinese people. Now, that’s sad. I can prove it. Ask any Asian and tell them you think they are Chinese. If they are not Chinese and acts like they are offended, then it means they don’t like Chinese. If they don’t get offended then it’s either they are Chinese or they are not bias. Now, if you tell the Asian you think they are Korean, then they don’t get angry, 99% of the time. Just as Europeans don’t like Americans, Asians don’t like Chinese. Of course, I know the United States is not in Europe.
To be fair, I don't think the average American can tell the difference between a Chinese Korean or Japanese. I have white family members and friends and they all think this way. It's only the ones that are into Asian culture that can tell the difference. Also I've always mistaken Asians in the past.
Shit, I still remember that video on RU-vid where even East Asians couldn't tell each other apart. They basically had to go by the person's attire and other cultural hints they may have on.
In LA some people can tell the different Asians apart but I noticed when I get to smaller cities or towns they automatically assume every Asian is Chinese.
Most White Americans don’t even know what kind of “White” they are. And often times, they try to figure it out themselves by going off their last names, which of course means NOTHING most of the time because people change their names all the time, especially more recent Whites whose ancestors immigrated into the U.S. from within the last 150 years.😂 If they want to put their ignorance in proud display in public by trying to “guess” a Asian person’s heritage, just say to them, “Oh yeah, what kind of White are you?” See how they like it for a change!
Bingo. China taking over Hong Kong (which used to be where the cool, popular stuff from China came from in the 80s-90s) fucked up one of their few successful soft power exports.
That's because you are brainwash by western propaganda media. 20 over years ago over here in South East Asia, when people mentioned of China we think of a nation fast growing economy, double digit growth. And today when people mentioned of China, we think of high speed railway and colossal infrastructure. And we mentioned US, we think of gun violence, homeless, druggies and etc, etc.
This is funny because nobody can tell the difference between most of the Asians, not even Asians themselves. I know. I’m from Asia and went to Korea, Japan, China, and others. Those, even Asians, that said they can tell the difference are overestimating their abilities whether they are Asians or not. Some only know because of the language the person speaks. Think about it, if you put 100 Asians celebrities together will those that say they can tell the difference be able to differentiate them 100%, 80%, or even 50% of the time if the options are from 10 different Asian countries? No. Let’s just admit it. Most countries don’t like the Chinese government so in extension the Chinese people. In my travels, most has shown their unconscious bias and some very conscious bias towards Chinese people. I even have Chinese people telling me other Asians are better than Chinese people. Now, that’s sad. I can prove it. Ask any Asian and tell them you think they are Chinese. If they are not Chinese and acts like they are offended, then it means they don’t like Chinese. If they don’t get offended then it’s either they are Chinese or they are not bias. Now, if you tell the Asian you think they are Korean, then they don’t get angry, 99% of the time. Just as Europeans don’t like Americans, Asians don’t like Chinese. Of course, I know the United States is not in Europe.
Not sure what the percentage of Koreans that have plastic surgery but I know it’s a lot. So when someone says “you look Korean” they are basically saying you look like you had plastic surgery.
This is funny because nobody can tell the difference between most of the Asians, not even Asians themselves. I know. I’m from Asia and went to Korea, Japan, China, and others. Those, even Asians, that said they can tell the difference are overestimating their abilities whether they are Asians or not. Some only know because of the language the person speaks. Think about it, if you put 100 Asians celebrities together will those that say they can tell the difference be able to differentiate them 100%, 80%, or even 50% of the time if the options are from 10 different Asian countries? No. Let’s just admit it. Most countries don’t like the Chinese government so in extension the Chinese people. In my travels, most has shown their unconscious bias and some very conscious bias towards Chinese people. I even have Chinese people telling me other Asians are better than Chinese people. Now, that’s sad. I can prove it. Ask any Asian and tell them you think they are Chinese. If they are not Chinese and acts like they are offended, then it means they don’t like Chinese. If they don’t get offended then it’s either they are Chinese or they are not bias. Now, if you tell the Asian you think they are Korean, then they don’t get angry, 99% of the time. Just as Europeans don’t like Americans, Asians don’t like Chinese. Of course, I know the United States is not in Europe.
@@mtc343 hate crimes against Chinese is the effect of China 'bad' globally propagated by the US media/politicians . Some extremists recently made comments that the Japanese didn't slaughter enough Chinese during the Nanking massacre in WW2.
@@mtc343 It doesn't help that many Chinese citizens support imperialistic speech from China towards other Asian nations and the fact that China has unbalanced trade deals w almost everyone in the world right now. It's the same way as how many Europeans think Russians are bad because some nationalists are pro-Putin. The pandemic was the final tipping point IMO.
@@jasonsmart1 . I’m from the east too. I have also traveled to many countries in the east. I couldn’t tell the difference and neither could the people I met. A person’s guessing accuracy increases when the Asian person speaks or if they have “stereotypical” features from a certain Asian country. It’s understandable if people can’t guess accurately because a person’s facial feature is determined by environment and genetics. Asians, in general, have similar environments and genetic/genome. Take Japan for example, researchers has explained that it is estimated that modern Japanese share in average about 90% of their genome with Korean and Chinese. The other 10% is with the other. According to a research that was reported by the Washington Post A.I can only guess with a rate of 75% accuracy and when the scientists went to investigate how the computer was making its decisions, they discovered an interesting pattern. Many of the cues that stood out to the algorithm were cultural features, like hairstyles or glasses or facial expressions. This makes sense, since the people of China, Japan and Korea have somewhat shared ancestries, but distinct senses of fashion. My accuracy of guessing a person’s country of origin increases dramatically if I know what they eat and were and likes, but if we are strictly talking about facial features then the guessing accuracy would be extremely low. I don’t know if you are talking about your accuracy on guessing an Asian person’s facial features only or not, but as research has shown it is almost impossible.
But please let's not delude ourselves as the stats show that China is something like 97-98% Han Chinese. It, like Korean and Japan are some of the most ethnically homogenous countries on Earth.
@@RicochetForceI am ethnic Miao Chinese/Hmong. Han people are highly mixed. The Chinese in the West are mostly just Cantonese and Hakka. Both come from southern China. They're distinctly different in phenotypes from other Chinese regions. Chinese is of mixed ethnic groups, that's not the same for Japanese and Korean.
@@niamtxiv I wish the Fung Bros would do a video about this. One of the biggest misconceptions of all time. Han itself isn't an genetic grouping like Yamato or Korean, it's more like a coalition of many ethnic groups that formed back in the Han dynasty. Like that's literally where the name came from. The OG Chinese people from the yellow river area could never breed themselves into 1.4 billion in such a short span of time.
When I visited Cape Town in South Africa. There was a pretty Asian young lady at my hotel’s customer service office. People often thought she was probably Korean or Japanese and whenever we asked her whether she’s from Korea or Japan, She just smiled but didn’t want to tell us where she’s really from. One day, one of us asked her if she’s Chinese or HongKongnese then suddenly she’s very upset and yelled “I’m not Chinese! “I’m not HongKongnese! I’m a Hongkonger!” We got some shocked at the moment because every one of us thought that all those meant same, anyhow she is Chinese.
So you harassed her until she told you where she was from, and then call her something other than her answer anyway. That's why I don't like it when narrow-minded people ask me where I'm from.
I totally agree that sinophobia is so real in the west and everything bad is associated with China. It's slightly less bad here in France than the US, but still present. Legit today I was sitting in a boba shop in Paris, and 3 French guys were talking about me while waiting for their order outside the shop discussing my ethnicity being like, she's Japanese!! Totally sure of themselves :/
How is thinking you're Japanese Sinophobia? Is it because you're chinese but since they think you're hot, you must not be chinese, and therefore Japanese or Korean instead ?
@@rwar531yes because I was also assumed to be Korean or Japanese when people called me pretty and cute then I told them that I’m Chinese and they’re like “Oh..”
i recently had a patient that looked korean in her face. she is chinese but had enhancements. she seemed proud that i thought she is korean. and she complimented me that i looked korean too. i didnt get that. so now i guess i understand thats like a back handed compliment
I've never been accused of being Japanese or Korean, but I have had Spanish speaking people walk up to me and start speaking to me in Spanish...I don't know what that is about.
I've been assumed to be Japanese when pale but never korean... I have been asked if I spoke Spanish before though. I basically have been assumed to be any type of asian but korean or asian looking inedigenous group in the world. But, I have been assumed to be chinese at least 75% of the time and have never thought it was because they thought I was ugly...
Bro, I lived in China and part Chinese and am zero % offended, because it's true. A lot of women in mainland China barely wear any make up. Koreans wear so much damn make up THE MEN wear make up lol. Even when Chinese women do make up, it tends to a little less westernized than how Koreans do make up. Fashion wise, Koreans basically dress like straight up westerners while China and Japan kinda do their own thing. I don't think it implies Chinese women are uglier as ethnically there isn't a huge visual difference between Chinese and Korean, but it more a testament to makeup, fashion sense, and Korean women are definately more "thirst trappy" than Chinese women with more make up and more revealing clothing being more normalized over there.
lol I get it sucks but China totally used to do this to Japan and Korea all the time back in the day when China was the most well known Asian country. Everything Asian was accredited to being Chinese. then slowly it became Japan and now Korea. It’s just the current trends dictating the western perception of what Asian is. It’s actually a little funny to see Chinese being offended that they are perceived to not be Chinese when all other Asians have had to deal with this since forever. We have had to be called Chinese our whole lives.
A lot of the politics play a role as well. South Korea and Japan are Top Allies to USA 🇺🇸 which dominates global media and presents them in positive way. And China beings USA 🇺🇸 biggest competitor in global dominance gets presented as threat or in negative way. China also has its own social medias so it feels closed off in way and a lot of things don’t crossover
Well, China is intentionally closed off and autocratic vs 2 open democracies friendly with the rest of the international community. That's a major difference.
It seems beauty standards in East Asia start becoming faker and faker, less and less attractive as time progresses. I consider the late 80s to mid 2000s the golden age for Asian beauty standards. This time period was when girls still looked normal.
I'm from Malaysia, and of Chinese decent. I currently live in North America. I've been mistaken for other Asians, they think I'm from their ancestral home. For example: Filipinos think I look Filipino, Koreans say I look Korean, Japanese think I'm Japanese, etc. But, Chinese don't say I look Chinese.
I think asians can tell apart Chinese/Korean/Japanese fairly well. I think this issue is more prevalent when non-Eastern Asians (white/black/india) started obsessing over Anime or Kpop which is basically Japan and Korea.
I don't think that's true all, there is at least a 10-20% overlap looks wise between Chinese/Korean/Japanese people, there's at least 50% overlap between Chinese and Koreans in terms of last names. I think its difficult even for Asians to tell them apart if the person is in America and you don't hear them speak
I’m Taiwanese American, I went to visit Japan and the local Japanese thought I was Japanese until I opened mouth. Then on my flight from Taipei to San Francisco there was a Vietnamese couple sitting next to me and the Taiwanese flight attendants would mistaken them for Taiwanese and speak Chinese to them at first.
Uih, there's been videos and articles on this. Even the people of those countries can't identify their countrymen apart from the others. And it makes sense why, they share a lot of their genotype with one another, a lot of their phenotype, and a ton of shared history.
I was introduced to k-pop in 1999. That's how I fully knew about Koreans. Prior to that, growing up as a kid (primarily in the late '80s-90s) I knew about Bruce Lee and Chinese food. In 1992, I realized that a lot of my favorite video games were made by the Japanese which I always admired that and wanted to become a game developer because of (which I did). And then the explosion of anime in 1999 when I discovered the I- channel (later turn to AZN channel). My cousin, has a lot (I do mean A LOT) of martial arts movies that are so rare to find. I always thought the Asian culture is cool but a lot of people believe that Koreans are cool because of K-pop and Japan is cool because of anime. They feel that China doesn't have anything cool.
China has a lot of cool stuff but it's more old world cool such as martial arts, classic cuisine, and philosophy. They don't have anything on an international lvl that engages w youth culture that much such as music, TV shows, fashion, skin care, and anime like Japan and Korea. Every now and then we'll have a Chinese movie which is great but it seems to be something that only pops up and gets noticed every few years whereas Korea and Japan is pumping out new things that go viral every few months.
@@chrisc1184 For the last few years, C- drama- especially historical and martial art genres have a steadily rising foreign fan base, many on Netflix, Amazon prime, Viki and RU-vid. They're just not as heavily marketed because of geopolitics. Avid fans are saying they have been inspired to learn Chinese and visit China because of c- pop culture. Of course, the US will discourage this with ' China is scary ' news releases.
This is so strange as a Korean myself. Growing up, EVERYONE assumed I was Chinese and if I told them I was Korean, they would say North or South? Like Bruh. I still don't really believe the current state of affairs and it feels like a fever dream where the whitest people I know will have a huge tub of kimchi in their fridge and eat it more often than me. Idk what to make of it. Another component is definitely the Chinese government not getting out of its own way with respect to soft power. They spend 10's of billions of dollars to promote their culture to the world with things like Olympics, etc. but they're constantly in the news for unfavorable topics. Also, with the Chinese Firewall, people outside of China don't have real access to the Chinese people in a meaningful way by banning TikTok, RU-vid, everything else, so we don't get as much exposure to the cool stuff they're doing unless it's been filtered through a 3rd party, where misinformation or mistakes are bound to happen so people may attribute the source as Korean or Chinese.
You are very accurate!! The Chinese government is the one who distorts everything and prevents Chinese ppl getting contacts with the rest of the world.
Unfortutenatly, i think its normal. Im african and the trend nowadays is that nigerian men people are cooler and more attractive. Most likely due to afro-beat. I know Ethiopian woman have a reputation of being really beautifeul as well as black girls from the Caribbean. I know that there is this stereotype of in africa that african american woman are the most beautiful black girl, but its seems to fade nowadays. Ultimately , soft power can only do so much.
I think it's the mindset of a lot of Chinese here in the States is also an issue. For example, my wife and I drink Boba once in a while. There are lots of them here. One common thing I notice is that all of them lack cool decor. They always name their businesses something dragon or something. Inside the store looks almost always look sparse, tacky, or cheap. Versus when we go to Korean coffee shops or Japanese tea house their decor is one that is inviting and high class.
As a Chinese, sometimes I feel Korean is too obsessed with appearence. As soon as you dressed decent and looks clean, that's good enough. Who care about your beauty as a normal person after all.
J-pop didn't have much exposure by itself (as in beyond a connection to anime) before the streaming era. It's still not that big right now compared to K-pop.
This reminds me of a video someone posted of a considerate airport worker in China. She was standing and holding a sponge on the spot where people's luggage would hit the hard surface to prevent the luggage from being scratched. The OP added the flag of Japan to the video and asked "Isn’t there a correlation between the care taken with your luggage at airports and the care and manners in society (Japan)" The clip received millions of views, and people commented on how nice and considerate Japanese people are. I am aware that's just one out of many of Chinese video clips that have been deliberately mislabeled as Japanese video, as I've seen countless of good Douyin videos have been reposted as Japanese video clip. It's also not uncommon to see video from outside China that have been deliberately mislabeled as Chinese video when the content is offensive or unpleasant. I got konnichiwa and moshi moshi a lot from strangers too, that's kinda annoying.
LOL true. Korean people also get annoyed when people think they are Chinese. I've gotten some idiots come up to me and say nihao randomly so many times. In fact, many Americans think Asians are just Chinese as Fung bros said. The pandemic situation showed how ignorant people are in America. It also doesn't help that Chinese culture (while it has cultural depth) in general tends to be more rude (prob due to overpopulation and cultural behaviors) or less refined. I do believe bad Chinese tourist videos went viral multiple times even before the whole pandemic situation. I've experienced this too when a Chinese tourist pushed me out of the way to take a photo at a Korean heritage site. There was also a tour guide taking kids at a field trip in a Korean museum. The kids started touching old over century yr old artifacts and playing w them and Chinese tour guide did not even tell them to stop touching them which got everyone pissed. It's not that there aren't assholes of every group bc there are. It's just that people recognize these kinds of behavior within Chinese culture are more frequent and there are some mannerisms/behaviors that are very Chinese.
@@chrisc1184 I have numerous Korean buddies. None of them found it annoying when others assumed they were Chinese back then when we were in Bali. - I definitely doubt you are a Korean, on the internet, anyone may claim to be anything depending on their agenda. - I can assure you that rudeness is not a feature of Chinese culture and that not all Chinese people are rude. Take it easy bro.
@agape.ahimsa no agenda needed. I like chinese ppl and have chinese american friends but these things def exist and everything I said is real. Fung bros literally said some Asians don't like randomly being called chinese in this video. Just bc your friends don't care doesn't mean that all koreans don't care. And it's not like there r problems w korean culture too. I can go off on my own culture's issues no prob.
simple, just not as much media exposure for attractive chinese people to westerners. there are some realllyyy stunning people in cdramas, they just aren’t as popular as kdramas
This is funny because nobody can tell the difference between most of the Asians, not even Asians themselves. I know. I’m from Asia and went to Korea, Japan, China, and others. Those, even Asians, that said they can tell the difference are overestimating their abilities whether they are Asians or not. Some only know because of the language the person speaks. Think about it, if you put 100 Asians celebrities together will those that say they can tell the difference be able to differentiate them 100%, 80%, or even 50% of the time if the options are from 10 different Asian countries? No. Let’s just admit it. Most countries don’t like the Chinese government so in extension the Chinese people. In my travels, most has shown their unconscious bias and some very conscious bias towards Chinese people. I even have Chinese people telling me other Asians are better than Chinese people. Now, that’s sad. I can prove it. Ask any Asian and tell them you think they are Chinese. If they are not Chinese and acts like they are offended, then it means they don’t like Chinese. If they don’t get offended then it’s either they are Chinese or they are not bias. Now, if you tell the Asian you think they are Korean, then they don’t get angry, 99% of the time. Just as Europeans don’t like Americans, Asians don’t like Chinese. Of course, I know the United States is not in Europe.
C- dramas, especially historical dramas have quite a following among non-chinese in foreign countries the last few years..I was surprised that many Russian, Spanish, Vietnamese, Indian and Arabs are knowledgeable about the handsome actors and beautiful actresses. Look up Chinese actor/ singers Xiao Zhan and Wang Yibo who are adored by international fangirls and voted most handsome in western polls.
And they'll pay more than they have to for the same quality stuff. Before Made In China there was Made In HK/Taiwan/SK, and before that Made In Japan. Nowadays we wouldn't associate MIJ with low quality stuff. It's just a phase of industrialisation. Sure, some countries foster a focus on quality. But if they get complacent they'd fall behind. And/or consumers get taken advantage of as quality doesn't keep pace with the reputation. Stereotypes may be cognitively necessary for us to cope with life. But that doesn't mean it's in our best interests.
@@L-K-K I don't think cars are soft power, Germany got a good reputation for cars because it made good cars, better than what other countries were making. BMW, AUDI, Mercedes, Porsche make good cars. Soft power to me is more about music, movies, drama's, fashion and influencing young people in other countries.
@@paulidson1483 so why did the commentor mention German car in the first place? I wouldn't have responded if they didn't use that as an example of soft power.
@@LeahDyson-kq4bd The new Volvo are quite good compare to the old one. It was a old man car in the past but it's much more modern today in terms of design and technologically advance. The old Volvo don't exist for a reason.
It’s literally only because people are more aware of Japanese and Korean culture..When Bruce Lee first came out I think Chinese people were more known and in the forefront of pop culture. There are slight differences in looks between the Asian countries, but all are pretty/beautiful..I’m Japanese American but think Chinese people are so beautiful, and love their ancient culture-they are just not all pop glamorized right at this moment
He looks creepy and effeminate, but then again most young men these days look androgynous up until they are in their mid 30s to 40s. This is around the age group men start to look like REAL men and not teenagers/ effeminate little boys with low testosterone.
Normally, I would agree with most of what David and Andrew say, but I cant agree that the main reason is old culture vs new culture. We just have to think about what percentage of cool things came out of China vs Korea or Japan in the last 3 decades or so. It's just people playing the odds based on what they saw recently. I'm Korean but people always assumed Chinese first because it's just higher chance.
There's a lot of sinophobia these days that's definitely true, but I think some of this if not a lot of it can be attributed to the weak soft power that China has versus Korea and Japan which have very strong soft power and as a result their cultural impact outside of East Asia is a lot larger than China's is currently. If you've seen an East Asian woman walking around with makeup similar to what someone saw in either a K or J drama or a K or J music video or viral video of course a person might associate them then with those countries if they don't see any makeup well they're not gonna automatically associate them with those countries and that kind of leaves one really really big country to associate that person with
This has nothing to do with what China is doing weak at. yes, China has to exert some more soft power. But that doesn't mean people are justified to hate on 17% of the world population. So, I don't think some of this has anything to do with Chinese soft power.... It's entirely the bias portrayed by the West which China cannot control and has no desire to control.
It’s kind of like the opposite effect. Chinese are the most abundant, and likely the more correct answer when guessing someone’s Asian ethnicity, but they don’t want to offend someone just in case they are something else. As a Chinese person myself, I would not be offended if someone said I was Japanese or Korean, but perhaps the vice versa would garner a different reaction.
Yes! i have been assumed to be every asian ethnicity besides korean at least once and even indigenous american/latin american and "hawaiian". I look very chinese/cantonese. It's okay to guess I'm chinese. you would be correct
From my understanding the Japanese word “manga” comes from the Chinese word “Manhua”. However, the Japanese way of drawing manga is Japanese in origin and style. I even saw ancient styles of “comic stripes” in the British Museum (on-loan) that could be seen as a major influence for modern day manga, even though modern day manga has its history in Japan (with some foreign influence - not just Chinese, if it’s present). Therefore, it is a bad example to use here.
I agree it's how prevalent the culture is in the West for people who aren't going to bother to research further. Right now Korean culture really standing out, thanks to the K-pop scene, K-drama, Korean food, and even their tech. Way back when, Hong Kong's culture was really big in the West, then Japanese became the big thing. Growing up, I really didn't know anything about Korea, and because Japanese music and anime was huge in the 90s, I passively learned about Japanese culture. Now I'm watching lots of K-drama and already know many Korean phrases.
I don't get this video. China is such a big country. People from southwest, southeast, central, eastern, northwest, west, northeast Chinese... they all look different. Most Chinese in the West are from Southeast China; like Cantonese and Hakka people. Chinese features are too vast.
Western standards of beauty are: ..... Western=European, so the closer a person looks Western, the more beautiful a Westerner or anyone else who has been influenced by colonialism feels beautiful. The key is to love your uniqueness. The world has never seen "you" before and stop trying to be a "clone" (robot #9). Colonialism.
@@WMPBLSD Incorrect. The East Asian beauty ideal is extremely rigid and basically defaults to an incredibly pale, incredibly thin, incredibly pretty face with very fine features. The American beauty ideal is far broader (though that did not used to be the case), and the country considers a much broader range of looks attractive. For example, Marilyn Monroe, Audrey Hepburn, and Cindy Crawford used to be considered the beauty ideals. Now? Rhianna is considered gorgeous, alongside folks like KPop stars and your standard blonde All-American models. Do we still have some fuckery going around with Eurocentric bias? Definitely, but that is absolutely fading after concerted efforts to break its hold on the culture.
This channel faces a recurring problem as it fixates on the perceived lack of validation that the Chinese community receives from others. At some point, people should accept and embrace their authentic selves. Telling the difference between Korean and Chinese can pose a challenge in many instances. The need for validation highlights a possible lack of self-esteem and confidence, which might explain the community's difficulties in earning the desired respect.
It's recurring because it's an actual issue. Imagine telling other communities like the black or hispanic communities for example that instead of talking about it just bury your head in the sand and the issue will fix itself.
@@skinscalp222 Trust me, at a personal level, very few people actually care about your ethnicity. Especially when it comes to whether your Chinese or Korean. 99% of people can't even tell the difference between the two unless you volunteer that info to them. Blaming your self esteem issues on your ethnic background instead of whatever personal issues you have is a lazy form of victim mentality.
I don't think they're doing this before they think many ppl care about one's ethnicity. I think it's simply not for you if you find it repetitive? Similar to popular shows, media is repetitive bc the audience its for just wants more of the same thing and because it takes a LONG time and a lot repetition to change people's internalized and ideological biases. Personally, I don't watch this channel more than a few times a year but I do respect what they are doing for their people and I would just leave if I find it too much of the same thing instead of pathologizing (your comment about validation and lack of self-esteem). Might be projection on your part? but I ain't no therapist.
It's media. Media are very powerful forces in shaping preferences and what people see as desirable. That's why European beauty standards are so popular. Their media (esp Hollywood) were the most far-reaching and popular over the past 50 or so years. Korean movies and shows are popular now. It's why advertisements work. Repeated exposure makes something more familiar and desirable.
Don't lie Europeans would be liked even without media Different eye colors, hair colors, white skin, tall height Even ancient Arabs admired Viking looks
@@HoodQueen258Nah ancient Arabs hated all western crusaders and Viking thieves. Ancient Arabs wrote many books about European invaders and how we muslims crushed them
People who think Chinese are not attractive have obviously never seen Wang Yibo, Ryan Cheng, Yang Yang, Zhao Lusi, Ke Ying, and a bunch of other very attractive stars. Their shows are all on RU-vid. Korean actors are attractive but don't count the Chinese out just because you've never seen them. Also, does it really matter what other people think? If you can't love and accept yourself and your ancestry, how can you expect other people to? These days, it's so much easier at school and work to correct people and say "You know, I am (say your ancestry) and not (what they think you are). Let me tell you about my culture..." Most people I know are generally open to discussion.
we, koreans, don't want to watch any contents from china. because the content isn't attractive for us. american films or japanese anime etc. much better than chinese ones. why would we consume the chinese culture? so we're not even interested in chinese stars. maybe? bruce lee, jackie chan. that's some who likes them. but that's all.
It definately is sinophobia. I've read comments that say "Oh wow amazing Japanese family" then somebody points out that they are chinese and the OP replies oh I don't like them then.
It's not just West though, Korean stuff is hot cake right now all around the world. Even stronger in Asia including China hence why China banning Korean media.
I'm just tired of seeing East Asian women with western feature surgeries that make them look like that girl from the CGI movie Alita. It frustrates me sometimes because it feels that they are destroying themselves to seek social media validation when the real validation should come from their love ones/people within their circle.
Could it be that so much of the popular makeup aesthetic today is dictated by South Korea? Could she literally look more Korean with makeup on because she does her makeup in a certain way? What if she did her makeup in more of an American aesthetic, say, like Kylie Jenner? I would like to see what nationality people would assume she is… probably American? Not to negate that Sinophobia does exist, however, I wouldn’t immediately correlate this scenario to racism.
Unfortunately, Covid 19 plays a huge role as well. During the pandemic, I lived in a small town in the midwest for work. One day I was walking down the street and a young man started to chase me, yelling " Dirty Chinese! Dirty Virus!!!" One of the. most Terrifying moments of my life... P.S. the majority of people in that small town loved watching Fox channels though
Unfortunately, that's true. Even SE Asians (who are usually darker & may have bigger eyes ex Filipinos) also received anti Asian sentiments during covid. We all got lumped as Chinese, covid-starters, etc.
I don't know why anyone would assume they are Japanese. Japanese people in general are far and few between. They are going extinct so it is rare to run into any Japanese Americans or Japanese from Japan.
Honolulu, California, and Seattle still have a large Japanese population. The rest of the 47 U.S states though it's extremely rare to bump into a Japanese person.
Which part of the country are you talking about though? You have to understand that racial/ethnic relations are different depending on your "social location" as sociologists call it. I learned this personally as I assumed Asians everywhere were looked at the same way as in the metro-Detroit area of Michigan. When when I moved to southern California, though, it was like a totally different world in this respect. I'm sure and have heard of anecdotes of why it's also different in other areas such as NYC, the south, other areas of the midwest, etc. This all applies to the specific Asian ethnicities as well.
Other ethnicity women should not feel sad because : South Korea has the highest rate of plastic surgery per capita in the world, with an estimated one in five South Koreans having some form of cosmetic surgery. Women are more likely to have plastic surgery than men, with some estimates suggesting that up to 50% of women in Seoul have had procedures. According to a 2020 Statista survey, 25% of women aged 19-29 and 31% of women aged 30-39 had undergone plastic surgery, compared to 2% and 4% of men in the same age groups, respectively. The average age of a person's first plastic surgery procedure is 21.8 years old, and up to 46% of female college students have had cosmetic procedures. Plastic surgery has even become a common graduation gift. This was from Google.
My gut is telling me that the origin point of this was 1997. When the British gave back Hong Kong to China, the cultural crossover portal to the English speaking world kinda narrowed a little. China hasn't picked up the soft power slack since then. If anything, they narrowed further some with various levels of media censorship or censorship of creatives. That's just my conjecture, anyways
There are good videos analysing "soft power" from different East Asian countries. You can imagine where Mainland China ranks. It has a ton to do with geopolitics, media portrayal and overall conflation of the communist party politics and China's culture in general l. People from HK, Singapore, Taiwan and other Chinese speaking regions are also impacted, to a lesser extent.
18:00 "Korea didn't even exist" was generally true 15 years ago from 2023 (2008), but not quite true 15 years ago from 2024 (2009). Because hallyu wave exploded among the Asian diaspora in US/Canada/Australia/etc. around 2009.
There are literally so many beautiful Chinese women! Even in Hollywood so it’s so odd to me that people assume this based on looks. I’m Korean but I try to attribute origins of trends and culture correctly when my non Asian friends assume things are Korean just bc they saw it on a kdrama. I have Chinese American family members so fighting Sinophobia is also personal for me and my family.
This is so true. I was assumed to be Korean and Japanese because people thought I was pretty. I told them I was Chinese American and they went “Oh..” like ok guys I see how you see Chinese people now with a prejudiced view against Chinese. Yet the world is saying that doesn’t happen and calling us delusional but they’re not the ones who experience this shit 😂
China is a huge country with a huge demographic population. In that sense it’s like Russia. Russia produces some of the most talented athletes, scientists and most beautiful women. China is like the Russia of the Far East. Some of the most beautiful and diverse looking East Asian women are in China. Hands down. Anyone who thinks any different has just never spent time actually partying in modern day China. If you’re a fashion model scout, you’d be scouting for hot tall statuesque women with long limbs in China. Not Korea or Japan. Im sorry but yeah there are attractive women obviously in all these countries but statistically hands down China will have the most beautiful women by global beauty standards with the most genetically diverse East Asian feminine look and body. Just go look at the East Asian models in the west. Most will be Chinese.
As a Korean-American, not all Koreans care about what's in style/trends. And there are beautiful and cool people from ALL countries!! I'm just happy Korea is FINALLY on the "map" ❤ most people didn't know what Korea was not that long ago..
Chinese are kind of the Mexicans of Asia. Widely known, widely stereotyped, default trope that represents the larger swath of Latinos and Asians respectively. Also, the words themselves are also used as perjoratives, which is uncommon for other countries. I'm not here to offer solutions, just stating a fact.
Nah there definitely is sinophobia. Nothing good can be associated with China. For me the big one is when chinese new year became lunar new year since that was the og chinese thing that broke through. Chinese is seen as lower quality that's the underlying thing here and chinese can indeed be sinophobic, look at fa lun gong, and self hate was common. I'd hear chinese kids say they wish they were japanese or korean.
This is funny because nobody can tell the difference between most of the Asians, not even Asians themselves. I know. I’m from Asia and went to Korea, Japan, China, and others. Those, even Asians, that said they can tell the difference are overestimating their abilities whether they are Asians or not. Some only know because of the language the person speaks. Think about it, if you put 100 Asians celebrities together will those that say they can tell the difference be able to differentiate them 100%, 80%, or even 50% of the time if the options are from 10 different Asian countries? No. Let’s just admit it. Most countries don’t like the Chinese government so in extension the Chinese people. In my travels, most has shown their unconscious bias and some very conscious bias towards Chinese people. I even have Chinese people telling me other Asians are better than Chinese people. Now, that’s sad. I can prove it. Ask any Asian and tell them you think they are Chinese. If they are not Chinese and acts like they are offended, then it means they don’t like Chinese. If they don’t get offended then it’s either they are Chinese or they are not bias. Now, if you tell the Asian you think they are Korean, then they don’t get angry, 99% of the time. Just as Europeans don’t like Americans, Asians don’t like Chinese. Of course, I know the United States is not in Europe.
Filipinos are easy to identify , we are not putting lots of make up on our face , most of the time , we just apply moisturizers top with powder or compact powder a little lipstick , thats it .. On special occasions or party thats the time we put on full make up , but we still want to look natural as much as possible . We love wearing simple shirts and pants on our daily activities and girls always bring umbrellas for sun protection .
Im Korean but I have a lot of Vietnamese friends... and kind of grew up in their community and I noticed if you are a tall and handsome or pretty Vietnamese... Other Vietnamese people assume they are Korean...
I noticed most Korean and Japanese women spend alot of time and money on their physical appearance. They always dressed beautifully and have full make up on
Well, the beauty standards there are insane. There is almost this pressure to look good. I was watching Asian Boss and they were interviewing South Korean ladies, they were saying that you need to attach a photo with make up on to your resume. Another person put in the comment section, how when they were getting interviewed in Japan, the person hiring basically said wearing makeup is mandatory.
Asian American point of view I suppose...I've seen some but I wonder how many Chinese/Asian social network personalities call it Korean or Japanese whatever (food/cloths/style/makeup etc) just to stand out and get more views and ultimately giving misinformation and in turn sort of lowering their own culture. I also seen full Chinese American girls that I personally know telling people that they're part Korean or Japanese and post that on their profiles... but now it seems like some guys are doing that too. maybe BTS fame? I've known Taiwanese and Hong Konger separate themselves using Mainland Chinese. And now some people are using Chinese Community Party (CCP) to say it's the government not the people of China doing bad things.
@@AN-ir3rg Oh, you really gotta praise the Unification church for popularizing Sushi in the Western world. Unification church is the hope of Japanese people and its culture
I know you guys are chinese, it just hit me last few months you guys sound Korean like alot of the Korean American classmates i went to high school with (I went to Sunny Hills in Fullerton in 90s), Im Filipino and this 1 other Filipina classmate in PE thought i was Korean, lol
I just think speaking Japanese will make Japanese woman more feminine.Appearance of Chinese woman and Japanese woman is almost same for me.But I think Korean are easier to distinguish from appearance no matter man and woman
With all the respect. I studied in an American school in Latin America. There were Chinese, Korean and Japanese. But the Korean or japanese were always more attractive then Chinese or taiwanese people. But they are smart and very intelligent. And they are also very reserved.
im chinese and feel i cant be allowed to be proud. we are so abhorred. there is so much fearmongering about china in the news. thank you for going over this! thank you!
I’m Chinese too and ofc you can be proud no one is holding something to your head and keeping you from being proud. If they hate drop em. For instance, I dropped my x who made fun of My mother tongue and talking crap behind my back, etc. If they disrespect your heritage drop em asap. There are people out there that are willing to accept you for being just you don’t sacrifice your heritage to fit Western Standards because there are people out there that will accept your flaws and your culture just the way it is.
I've said this for years. I'm Taiwanese and whenever I put effort into my appearance and look pretty, everyone asks if I'm Korean or Japanese. When I'm just bumming around or being slobby, people assume I'm Chinese. When I had a tan once, I was asked if I was Filipino. Ugh. No one has ever guessed Taiwanese.
China is huge and comprised of 56 ethnicities; there are all sorts of looks. From architecture, writing/characters, to dresses, Korean and Japanese just “borrowed” them from ancient China.
How does this girl know for a fact that those makeup styles were not originally Korean and Japanese first?! She assumes that just because it’s on that Douyin makeup style that it’s automatically Chinese ?!?! First of all facts , I think everyone knows even Chinese know that they are the late bloomers when it comes to makeup, fashion and etc they whatever makeup style they know it all Comes from Japan and Korea! I’m 47 Asian girl that has seen trends since probably some of the ppl have been born and trust me Chinese did not put on makeup they didn’t do skincare and they definitely did not know how to dress ! So this young girl going off on a rant better get her facts checked!
I don't get it. Beauty, regardless of ethnicity, is obvious. Anthropologists do emphasize that facial symmetry is valued in all cultures. This does appear to be true.
Asian is asian... both my parents are immigrants from Taishan, China who met in NYC in the 1960s. I identify as full chinese, but i was told my lineage has a mix of Korean and Taiwanese. I would be curious to run a "23 and Me" test on myself to see what my pie chart looks like.
It's very simple. Koreans and Japanese focus on how to be cool every day. But Chinese focus on telling people how they are not cool every day. In this situation, how would people think Chinese are cool people. Chinese never know this.
Cambodian here, people say I look Filipino or half, so when I was younger and went out with my family remember one non-Asian guy at the market saying 'heyyy my Filipinos! come check this out!' lol we made zero eye contact and kept walking, he probably was like 'damm are they not filipino?' lol
All Southeast Asians look Filipino unless they have significant Chinese ancestry. But the Southeast Asians with little to no Chinese ancestry all look Filipino.
I think this is like "why China is uncool while Korea or Japan is not?". Btw, man time fly so fast. Just a decade ago, nobody know Korea so people just consider me as Chinese even when I told them I am from Korea.
Hong Kong is seen as cool in the eyes of Westerners from a pop culture standpoint because of all the gun fu films that come out of Hong Kong that has culturally influenced Hollywood, while Mainland China are seen as squares from a pop culture standpoint in the eyes of Westerners.
There's beautiful people from different cultures/countries. Pretty people are pretty people are pretty people. I was shopping at H-Mart the other day and I did NOT see anyone pretty. Yes, there were Koreans there, but I didn't find them pretty or beautiful...just average looking like any average looking people. When you have the pretty gene (regardless of culture) you definitely won the gene lottery. Then again, beauty is also in the eyes of the beholder.
This is funny because nobody can tell the difference between most of the Asians, not even Asians themselves. I know. I’m from Asia and went to Korea, Japan, China, and others. Those, even Asians, that said they can tell the difference are overestimating their abilities whether they are Asians or not. Some only know because of the language the person speaks. Think about it, if you put 100 Asians celebrities together will those that say they can tell the difference be able to differentiate them 100%, 80%, or even 50% of the time if the options are from 10 different Asian countries? No. Let’s just admit it. Most countries don’t like the Chinese government so in extension the Chinese people. In my travels, most has shown their unconscious bias and some very conscious bias towards Chinese people. I even have Chinese people telling me other Asians are better than Chinese people. Now, that’s sad. I can prove it. Ask any Asian and tell them you think they are Chinese. If they are not Chinese and acts like they are offended, then it means they don’t like Chinese. If they don’t get offended then it’s either they are Chinese or they are not bias. Now, if you tell the Asian you think they are Korean, then they don’t get angry, 99% of the time. Just as Europeans don’t like Americans, Asians don’t like Chinese. Of course, I know the United States is not in Europe.
Maybe because is not real. SK is trying to look western not Asian. What kind of representation is that? Proclaiming themselves as the best looking Asians don't help to attract sympathy and support 😂😂
@@mariaaballi-gonzalez3716 Korean people don't claim they are the best looking Asians or they are better than others. The problem is that people like you are projecting your own inferiority and unconsciously think that you are inferior to them. Don't blame others. Look within yourself to fix the problem. It so happens things Korean are trending now, but who knows in the future, other country such as Vietnam or Thailand will be trending.
it is hard to define what Chinese style is because it is one of the most diversed country in the world and if you ever lived in china, you should know that there is huge difference between people living in the east, west, north, and south. The difference includes how they look, the food, the culture, etc. You can't really define what Chinese style is because there are many.
