Dispatch sees anything as fair game and honestly that makes them even more credible. They aren't exactly bad or good, but morally gray and would go through extreme lengths to uncover the truth
The crazy part about what happened to Hyunjin, they told him he shouldn’t tell his parents about this cult for at least 200 to 300 days and that’s their one and only condition for “this” to work and so he can “benefit better”! So vile so evil and wicked they wanted to brainwash him!
@@user-bluex cult is like a group of people who believe that their cult leader is "god" and most of them follow whatever the leader says and some of the extreme cults try to hurt or even k*ll a person who try to leave the cult. Also what a person have to do before joining a cult depends on the cult
I lost a good friend to a cult. She was 16. Hyunjin was still a trainee at the time and, like my friend, impressionable and confused. It is easy to prey on people like this. I am so happy Hyunjin and I.N are safe...I never got my friend back.
Same here, I can relate, I lost my longtime childhood friend but to Jehovah's witnesses, but he didn't become tempted or persuaded, he took that decision on his own, and he never looked back, still miss him to this day, I feel you on this.
@@jasoncoreas5728 Did he have to stop talking to you or was that a choice one of you made? Just curious since idk too much on that part of Jehovahs witnesses.
At Hyunjins story, I was flabbergasted. How can you follow a random stranger on a 30-min bus drive just because you supposedly have a "bad aura"? This could have turned into something much more sinister than a cult - a killer, trafficker, someone who wants to harvest your organs. Don't be naive people, some can hide their intentions extremely well.
@@chaeyoungswifey4153 exactly. And these kinds of people especially pray on the vulnerable ones...the young, the lonely, the sick etc. The same is true for cults. Most of the people that get recruited are naive and easily controlled and influenced. And I mean obviously, you can't have someone in your cult who might start to question things, because then the whole thing would fall apart.
They were trainees at the time and they r one of the most innocent ones from skz how were they supposed to know that the stranger they met was apart of a cult
@@aiko-chan9071 that's not it, they shouldn't have followed the strangers in the first place, how would anyone know who the stranger was, but following is another thing.
@@jaewhypeeeeee8776 Nonsense? In which way? Please explain why they , members of stray kids, admitted to joining a cult for those months and forbidden to speak to any one about such events?
These cults usually claims themselves as part of Christianity, using the name of Jesus to recruit new members but then completely forgets the commandment "Thou shall not use the name of the Lord, your God, in vain". How detestable.
@@amberambie5840 tbh anything can be cult these days as long as you are obsess with something and think a group can do no wrong. Everything need to be in moderation.
I wouldn't trust JYP at all...and the fact that I.N and Hyunjin almost got recruited for cults and works for him makes me uneasy. I hope none of them listen to him about religion.
@@unfrgwtable a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or as imposing excessive control over members.
Not just male kpop group members, I just also hope groups he worked with from the past, and now like fx, GOT7, miss A, 2PM, ITZY, & Twice, haven't fallen for this trap. I hope they still remain safe out there.
bruh literally everything that they related jyp to was rumors and also they were supposing everything?? like oh he speaks kind of similar to blablabla like damn couldnt be dumber, its so easy to get out there and just lie and tell people false information just because you can and want
this is so scary omg and the worst part is that they profit from people who feel truly lost and in pain, they destroy even further the victims' confidence and personality so they feel like they can't leave… they scare them with everything. how heartless you have to be to do something like that??? I hope society gets more aware about this problem and those who are trapped in there find a way to escape safely. joining a cult will never NEVER be the solution.take care everyone!
Idols live primarily in a bubble and are easily impressionable as most teenagers and young adults. They are in the target group of cults and are probably targeted sometimes because they have a following that could be lured in. Also, it wouldn't surprise me if more Idols are actually in a cult/sect of some sort. There are always celebrities in some cults/sects. For example, Tom Cruise and John Travolta are famous Scientology members. The industry is behind a big smokescreen, and if we knew everything behind it, some of us would be very disappointed in Idols and companies of every rank. A friend of my father once said, "Stories that make it to the news are just 10-15% of all the stories that happen behind closed doors." Even if there are 10 Idols linked to cults/sects, there are probably 90 more. The scary part is the dark figure we don't know about. There are probably way more cases of Idols in cults/sects; we just don't know about it because the cults/sects are either small or not publicly visible.
to be honest, some of trhe choreographies they do are a bit weird to me ... maybe some of the people behind the scene are and make them do weird kryptic signs ... all this can help a spririt to take over souls
As a Christian I am so disappointed in this kinds of behavior these people are doing Edit: I try my best to defend us Christians but then they come out saying “ but you guys do this you guys do that” all I say “not all of us though not all of us feel that certain way not all of us do that” and try to show it with my actions Bc as much as I love kpop but for me god came first so I have to defend my religion without hurting other people in the process
I came here after the "dan wolrd" hybe incident, can you talk about it more? I can't find anything about it even tho koreans right now are going wild about it in the comments of "omg mv" by newjeans (the official one) and are accusing hybe of being in it
Gfriend’s album concept right before they got fired is a witch. After their termination, le seraphim came out. (Seraphim=the angel) There were 6 members in Gfriend, 6 members(originally) in le seraphim. A lot of important dates are related to the number 22, which is the symbolic number in “dan world”. “Dan world” is a cult focusing on breathing experiences and meditation, which is shown in TXT’s videos. (The boys were listening to this and meditating) One if the key concept of “dan world” is finding ‘real me’, and the belief of being capable of changing oneself to another by coping the original. Ilit(the new girl group in hype) copies new jeans’ concept, dance, and aesthetics. Ilit’s album’s name is also called ‘real me’. The symbolic animal in “dan world” is a bear, which keeps on appearing in OMG mv. The story of OMG is Minji being the doctor, or the one who can save other girls, Daniel escaping(the christian ‘daniel’), Hyein thinking that she’s an iphone(meaning that she’s already being controlled by someone), other girls being chased by the bear or get attacked. Minji keeps on saying that they’re new jeans and this is only a mv. The main focus is on members being controlled and manipulated while Minji is keep on saying that’s not true. This is because OMG’s lyrics are made to worship the cult by hybe, but Min heejin(the CEO of ador), who directed the mv, is mocking the original worshipping lyrics, saying that it’s a mental problem(the background of mv is in mental hospital). Hybe didn’t like what they were seeing, so decided to throw Min heejin under the bus by saying that she tried to take over the company. I don’t know if this comment will last long because hybe is constantly deleting comments in search engines and their own yt, but because not many foreign fans know about this, i want you guys to spread this. This explains many suspicious works of hybe, and the CEO, Mr. Bang used bts, txt, le seraphim, new jeans and many others to worship their cult. I’m a korean fan who speaks english and wanted to help.
Once I was in a gas station in Florida pouring gas and a lady quietly snuck up on me.⛽️I literally got spooked in front of her because, she caught me by surprise. 😨This lady was trying to recruit me to a CULT. I said no thanks I’m a Christian. ✝️But she was very pushy. 😒Thank God my mom was in the car at the time.🚗
yet everyone still believe that jyp is connected with those damn cult using the same name as Christians.. as jyp stated, those cult came to his bible study
To be fair though there is very little crime in Korea compared to most developed countries. For example people will have no qualms leaving their personal belongings unsupervised for long periods of time knowing very well that nothing will happen to them. So I wonder if that plays a part in it too.
Please.. people that do these wicked things in “the name of Jesus” need serious help. I hate that this complete misrepresentation of God exists and even pushes people away from God. As God said in the Bible: “My people perish from a lack of knowledge”. If u are religious and are thinking abt God, please, read the Bible to know God and His truth for urself so u can know when someone is false preaching!
As an ELF (SuperJunior Fan) I think Eunhyuk doesn't believe in religion that much now. I've heard him joke about that subject a few times and during a vlog Donghae asked him "Do you know what a bible is?" and he responded: "yeah, the thing that you guys read." I am not sure if it has anything to do with the arrest but I feel like he was disillusioned by religion after the incident. I feel like we all have felt that way. When you grow up in a religious household you feel like the religious scholars are saints. As you grow up you see the news about sexual harassments and corruption you're like Imma head out.
What is very unfortunate about this is letting 'men' decide for you whether or not you want to believe in God. There's bad everywhere, you know? Just because a man cheats on his wife doesn't mean all men are cheaters. Now a woman is going to go around missing the best and good stuff about meeting the right one just because of some guy and his wrecklessness.
This is not me taking a hit at Eunhyuk. We all have a spirit of free will. Choice is one of our greatest powers and I have no right to judge anyone for the decisions they make. Which is something I will not do. But I just feel like making big decisions like that just because some pastor couldn't control his desires is very damaging to the wonderful relationship one could potentially have with God. We put so much worth and respect on people forgetting they are just that; people. Pastor, saint, normal person, we all have desires. We all sin. Now I'm not justifying the nastiness we see people do. But if news comes out about my Lead pastor doing what he is not supposed to, that's something he'll need to settle with God and it has nothing to do with what I'm hoping to build with God. You feel?
i think that depends on the type of religious household you grow up in. my father is very good friends with my pastor, but ever since we were young, he's told me and my brother that we can't expect our religious leaders to be perfect; that they're human too, and that even they make mistakes. the only one who makes no mistakes is god. of course, i've never been in a church where the leaders were involved in crime, so i can't relate to people who went through that. but i think my upbringing allowed me to see my religion for what it is; rather than blind faith, i was raised on true faith. i really hope that one day, this will be the case for the majority of believers raised in religious households.
"If it was a cult, I would've left already" Everybody who says this has no idea what being in a cult is like. I was a member of a church that developed cult like tendencies and believe me when I say You will have no fucking clue that you're in a cult and if u know it will be VERY HARD to leave. Or that person never was in a cult for real. People in cults don't realize it's a cult bc that's part of the lie that's been sold to them. living in a cult means you're brainwashed - and you don't realize it. And that's why it's so dangerous, bc whenever people come up to you and tell u the truth u think they're lying and/ or want to harm you bc of the brainwashing u think u got the keys to truth and they don't. It it truly dangerous. And so sad, bc people get abused so easily this way.
i agree with you, idk why ppl says its so easy to leave a cult cus you never know what they will do and manipulate you. plus if you try to escape and speak up about what they did and report it, they do something crazy to you. have they not seen the korean tv show "Save Me" , "hellbound" and the new documentary of south korea cult called "the name of god: a holy betrayel" it covers on those cults situations.
@ Giselle Outsold all basic rappers I have seen you in many videos and u are just a horrible person Lisa is a very kind person and so is Jennie and both of them are not part of any cults nor are any other blackpink members I really don’t want to engage like a new kpop fan but seeing you be so problematic I think I should at least voice my opinion And no hate to anyone but didn’t giselle say the n word even though she is a fluent English speaker and most probably knew the meaning of the word as she does listen to a lot of English songs Aespa are young girls so they can make mistakes and I’m not black so I am not gonna hate or forgive cause I don’t have any right to do so
This is supposed to be a serious topic but I can’t stop thinking about Delivery, it’s one of my favorite kdramas with the funniest one in it Edit: Omg I didn’t know there were that much people who know it
I remember watching a Kdrama called “Save Me” I wonder if it was based off this. It’s a kdrama about a girl in a cult I can’t really remember the whole plot, definitely want to rewatch it
i was so traumatized by one of the scene of "save me" that i had that image in my head for a awhile. oh i wanna recommend this new documentary about south korea cults called "the name of god: a holy betrayal".
Not to be rude, but the name of the video makes it look like al the idols in the video belong to a cult. Especially in the beginning of the video where you show pictures of idols who where only almost dragged in to being a cult member.
Damn I would've never guessed these idols were/are a part of cults. It's scary tbh how easily they trust some random stranger.. Makes me wonder what happens after one is dragged into a cult what's next? Do they force them to follow their beliefs and lead a life based on the cults' principles? All these videos of people luring those who seem easy targets I'm seeing makes me rethink whether or not to go to SK alone 😐
@@sofypi7493 so you maybe didn't get what I meant, but what I mean is that I wouldn't have guessed THESE idols were part of a cult out of all the kpop idols I know.
this guy messaged me on hellotalk and we were just talking as normal and then he started asking about church and if i go to church and yea im catholic and he had the AUDACITY to say that shincheonji was similar to catholicism and it was really weird he was getting pushy with wanting mw to watch some preaching videos. i blocked him quickly
This is the reason why people are mislead. There is a big difference between RELIGION and CULT. Cults do great misdeeds and deceive people while using the name of God in vain whereas Religion is having the belief in God and abiding by His words.
I have the same experience 😂 2 times lol, it's scary. I think when I'm in high school, I use public transportation and there is 2 people with -holy book(?? in their hands :'( and they start asking me about church. At the same time there is this guy wearing military clothes come and he help me to get out 😭😭 but because I'm too scared and the place I want to stop are right there, I just get out fast... I forgot to say thank you. I hope if you find someone like that, you guys can help them to get out from the situation too 🥲 I know how scary it was.
whats up with people in the comments being confused by the video's topic? have you seriously never heard anything about cults and aren't familiar with the term?
The only reason how I know a lot about cult group is because I just know it and I had to write a 90 page essay about it. But tbh, in real life I have NEVER like NEVER heard anyone talk about it. It just shows how people are oblivious about it .
Their probably people from the new generation, I'm not oblivious or surprised, cults have been around ever since the dawn of time, notable examples Jim Jones cult of Jonestown, Guyana 1978, David Koresh, and his Branch Davidians in the 90's, The mother god cult, and so many more. I've also been aware of Pastor Lee Jae-rok, and the shincheonji as well. But it's better to know now so we can warn everyone else of these dangerous evil malpractices, and brainwashing manipulating sects, so that all can be saved, and those still trapped, can find an escape. The more and better we know, the more woke we'll all be.
So in Hollywood you have Scientology. In Hallyu you have this I didn’t even know about this until recently when I went to SK for iKON’s concert. My fellow iKONIC told me there’s a lot of you tube videos on how to avoid them. While heading out to dinner we were approached by one but she backed away when she realized we weren’t foreigners living there but instead foreigners just visiting.
People in cults might use their power to destroy non-religious who could go against them. In the entrainment area they will make unpleasant comments about artist that they want out of their way. The sad story is, they will always find someone to help them and good actors and singers will be exposed to mistreatment or out of job.
for the second one, i'm not justifying his wrongs but being a pastor doesn't mean he can't sin(he's still human). it's possible that he did influence many peoples lives but he decided to do the wrong thing even with the power bestowed upon him.
man this changes my view on going to korea, it scares me how a randkm person could talk to me for a minute and escalate me into a building then a cult. also thats just scary how hyunjin and i.n. almost got lured into such things.
The thing about Inni and Hyunjin is that they succumbed to the pressure, cuz in my knowledge saying no to an adult is sign of disrespect AND you can add that they're the most naive persons out there. At that age anyone without the ability to sense danger or don't know about the bad things that occur in the world could be in their positions, even if you are an adult and have common sense can be dragged to that kind of situation if they fool you just cuz they caught you in your 5 minutes of stupidity.
When it comes to believing, do your own research. Don't let people around you dictate what you believe in. It's not always the others fault that people are fooled, learn to protect yourself from it/them.
I think then cults who succeeded in the brainwashing their members deserve more of the backlash and their members deserve help. A lot of these idols were indoctrinated when they were children. Children do what their parents do, that's how all religions work imo. It's rare for kids to deviate from what their parents told them to believe their whole life. I show sympathy for the adults as well, being manipulated by these people who separate you from your family, take your money, and run your life making you think they the church is the only thing you can rely on if pretty fucked. It's like when religious people try to witness to you when you're Greiveving a loss. It's fucked up. To make a long statement short, I pity these idols more than I dislike them. I hate their churches tho.
Just know, that in any religion, there's only one God. So if any leader (pastors/ustadz etc.) starts to do things that made you worship them or in awe of them because they start to do outrageous things like healing sick people etc., just know that it should be a warning. In my religion we were taught that you can't actuallt rely 100% on religion only. You still need to think and have good logics
true same here as well and on top of that being a christian and born in a pent cost family and watching how some people who says bible preaching can be done by anyone its not true and you are only disrespecting god and no doubt you would be punished
Also there should not be any membership fee, you should have to give up any or all assets or money you own, and if there is anything sexual going on 🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩
You can tell whos involved by the music videos alone. Most Fans completely ignore all signs of any cult or even satanic symbolism. I don't even read comments anymore they are all blinded and never speak on the 'art' just there blind attraction. Ive noticed many symbolism is idols i like and i can call out the nonsense & still enjoy they're music but it seems like if you say anything except for praise fans attack.
Yeah but the stuff doesnt happen above ground mostly... Most media is a representation of what happens underground in gray alien cities.. grays cant leave their pods so the cities are also for their avatars😎
This isn't uncommon. But the fact that it's very prominent. I have encountered other related topics when I was in highschool. I was researching on my own and it's disturbing. This is just the beginning of something that'll happen in the future.
@@cristinacristescu1173 exactly my point you can't just tell that they are a part of it despite them denying ( even if it's a lie)you never know something about someone for sure
The problem is the source for all these rumors are just korean commenters and you guys believe it just because they're korean. Its like as a korean believing in Qanon just because the ppl talking about it are in America.
Exactly, that drama series showcased what's really been going on behind closed doors in all of today's and yesterday's Korean society. They either are oblivious, or haven't decided to being woke yet.
honestly idk why I'm shocked that Taeyang is probably in a cult? He's very obsessed with his religion and back when he started getting his tattoos I thought it was insane to get his jesus one. Not to mention he only posts bible quotes. I hope he and Hyorin and get out of it and find a more balanced relationship with god.
I have been a stay for many years now and Hyunjin is my bias, I just can't believe that I am only finding out about this now! I am so happy and greatful that nothing happened to the boys.