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KSGER T 12 Soldering Station from Banggood
V2.1S T12 Digital Temperature Controller Soldering Station from Banggood
V2.1S T12 Digital Temperature Controller Soldering Station -- goo.gl/7tuAHj
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@StewsChannel 4 года назад

Really enjoy your videos, very informative! I just bought a similar T12 station, hopefully it's decent. Again, thanks for the vid! :)

@Randomwesternredneckguy 5 лет назад

Bought the kit version. I popped the switch out of the heavy rubber holder, flipped it, then wired it accordingly so it is oriented correctly. Probably would've missed that if not for your vid. Thanks! I bought a bunch of different tips. The one you have is the crappiest of the bunch. All the rest are more useful for what I do. Not sure why your display is dim. Mine is quite bright. Thanks for the vids...keep up the good work!

@learnelectronics 5 лет назад

Thanks Arthur, seems they sent out a batch with very dark plastic screen covers. I removed it and it looks fine.

@hobbyelectronics6630 4 года назад

The password protection is how they make the station LSD safe !

@EMAHGERD 3 года назад

ngl a buddy of mine had the incredible urge to solder while tripping. Other dude just gave him the iron without plugging it in, he was happy anyway.

@rafaellogan332 3 года назад

a tip: watch series at Flixzone. I've been using them for watching loads of movies these days.

@randypreston9377 3 года назад

@Rafael Logan Definitely, have been watching on Flixzone for since november myself :D

@Acecool 4 года назад

The K series tip gives you a lot of surface area to work with. You do want to use them for the right things; ie: wide spades, reflowing - smds, long rows of pins, etc... swiping SMCs, etc..

@geirendre 5 лет назад

I guess the little fuse on the PCB isn't an dobble fuse but one used if mains is connected via the (unpopulated) socket right next to it. Maby something used when this PCB and an companion Hot-Air gun PCB are placed in a common chassis. Would explain the desolder options in the menu.

@TheNewNitrok7 5 лет назад

got mine directly from the official ksger store on aliexpress, had to wait a few weeks before I could use it. unfortunately, it was pretty much DOA and cant make a dispute as its too late. i have contacted them with no response. The station just keeps on power cycling when u plug in the iron. I saw another video with a similar issue so I've bought another t12 iron hoping that will fix it. the station itself seems glitchy as sometimes it freezes and i have to manually restart it. I've double checked all the wires inside the station and the iron and nothing seems to be out of place. anyone have any ideas? Would love to get this thing to work.

@20thcenturyboy85 4 года назад

Thanks for this review

@pr0xZen 4 года назад

I believe some of the early models had QC issues with some displays being really weak, made much worse by a *heavily* smoked piece of plexi in front of the display. If you end one of those, you can improve it by removing the smoked glass alltogether or replacing it with a clear piece.

@melplishka5978 3 года назад

Nice unit.

@revvrav 5 лет назад

Thanks for the reveiw! I currently have diy DC 12v automatic solder feeder which i run off batteries, do you think i could tap power from this power supply and use a step down to power it at the same time?

@learnelectronics 5 лет назад

Probably, the ps looks pretty robust.

@jimb032 5 лет назад

Good job Paul! So I've got to say it... ANOTHER soldering station!?!? You are now starting a collection of collections!!! Time for another oscilloscope..don't want the Scope family to feel left out. ;)

@learnelectronics 5 лет назад

I cant say no to free, you know?

@thingblaze5754 5 лет назад

I have two of this solder stations. Just love them. They have a great heat transfer, and heats up in 15sec. You can buy a lot of different tips for it. It handles every job I had to do. Just a great station. By the way, the display should not be that dark. Mine is not.

@learnelectronics 5 лет назад

Thanks

@thingblaze5754 5 лет назад

@@learnelectronics Hey. I talked with one seller of this stations. They told me that some of them have to dark "glass" in front of the display. That's why they are dim. I tested on one of my station, and replaced the "glass" with a clear one, and the display gets very very bright. So that's the problem with yours. To dark "glass" in front of the display.

@mikeoliver3254 5 лет назад

That is a nice little unit. Thanks for the review Paul, I enjoyed it. I think there is something up with the display. It should be lit up nice and bright I think. You can’t beat the price on the tips through Banggood. I could get 3 or 4 of them for the price of one of the ts100 tips. That would be nice. Great video Paul.

@learnelectronics 5 лет назад

I've got some more tips that I ordered from Amazon coming tomorrow, so we'll have another video and see how it performs.

@mikeoliver3254 5 лет назад

Nice I look forward to seeing it.

@matiasramos2409 5 лет назад

really cool review

@learnelectronics 5 лет назад

Thank you very much, I appreciate that.

@brunsniggel 5 лет назад

I have this, love it. No problems with the screen being dim though. It's compatible with Hakko T12 tips (and knockoff tips), i got some cheap knockoff ones in pure chinesium and they works a treat. The one that comes with the unit isnt my favorite either

@rolandberendonck3900 5 лет назад

Do you have an aliexpress link for the compatible tips plz? Is it this link? www.aliexpress.com/item/3pcs-lot-T12-BC2-BL-BC3-Series-Soldering-Iron-Tips-for-HAKKO-T12-Handle-LED-vibration/32795825499.html?spm=2114.10010108.1000014.1.26974490Xyf7u8&gps-id=pcDetailBottomMoreOtherSeller&scm=1007.13338.110449.000000000000000&scm_id=1007.13338.110449.000000000000000&scm-url=1007.13338.110449.000000000000000&pvid=70b0d74d-8496-4446-a2b9-9a38102314aa There is not that much difference in price with the original tips, in this link that is.

@learnelectronics 5 лет назад

Yes, I ordered some knock-off tips from Amazon today and they'll be delivered tomorrow so I look forward to trying it with the new ones

@brunsniggel 5 лет назад

@@rolandberendonck3900 I ordered these: www.ebay.com/itm/4-5Pc-T12-BC2-Series-Solder-Iron-Tips-For-Hakko-Soldering-Rework-Station-FX-951/272780976919?hash=item3f83036317:m:mtsEifiofMtZlv1Cz-tA6uQ:rk:5:pf:0 And my J-tips from here: www.ebay.com/itm/T12-BC2-J02-JL02-KR-ILS-soldering-iron-tips-for-soldering-rework-station-TECA/123541061565?hash=item1cc39effbd:m:mFAbhDhiUBSiNt71QPfWSrA:rk:3:pf:0 Any T12-tip will be suitable

@whollymindless 4 года назад

Did you solve the screen issue? I have a hard enough time soldering when there is light.

@learnelectronics 4 года назад

Yes, I took off the outer smoked cover

@Mezmorize99 5 лет назад

I ordered one of these around a week ago. Sadly I got a backorder notification :-(

@Zionfarm 5 лет назад

I got unit after I returned from training, and it won't turn on.

@npc2071 5 лет назад

What power cable should I buy for this, 110v, 120v?

@auggie3546 5 лет назад

Why would you ever buy this with out is Owen power cord?

@Pyridox 5 лет назад

That's certainly a nice compact soldering station. I'm not crazy about that style iron tip either, but I see they have other tips available like conical, etc.

@learnelectronics 5 лет назад

I actually ordered some tips and they'll be here tomorrow so we'll be doing another video with some what I would call useful soldering tips and then I'll be able to give you my overall on the iron go so far everything is good.

@Pyridox 5 лет назад

@@learnelectronics I currently have the YIHUA 939D, which is around the same price which I have been using for a while. The only thing I can see, is those T-12 tips with the heaters are a little harder to get, my YIHUA uses the standard HAKKO style tips which are available everywhere (ebay, Amazon, etc.) Edit: I take it back, Amazon does have the T-12 tips. Albeit they are a little more expensive than the HAKKO style tips.

@K3vinK 5 лет назад

Ive had one for about two years. Love it,

@learnelectronics 5 лет назад

What is your preference for a tip?

@K3vinK 5 лет назад

The B2 and the BL for normal soldering.

@K3vinK 5 лет назад

I have this exact power supply. I did upgrade the three filter caps to higher end ones. And changed the ceramic cap to a film one. Not sure it that really improved anything, but hey. I have the same digital driver as you as well. New ones come out from time to time and work in any 24v power supply.

@K3vinK 5 лет назад

You can also add a memory cap to the two prong connector on the blue pcb.

@joshm264 4 года назад

@@learnelectronics I've had one for a while and I recommend a d16 tip

@bblod4896 5 лет назад

Five pin mic connector. I wonder how long that little unit would last if it were left on for a few hours per day. In other words, would that work in a busy repair shop or crap out after a few months.

@learnelectronics 5 лет назад

It has been my experience that the more complicated or tool is the shorter its lifespan. So an old school soldering iron with nothing but a Transformer and a thermistor would last virtually forever. This one, I don't think will last quite as well. And not because it's not well built, but just because it has become overly complicated.

@mrjohhhnnnyyy5797 5 лет назад

I also like the switch to be ON in upper position :)

@drteeth7054 4 года назад

Why not join the rest of the World that does switches right😂😁😗?

@topouzidd 5 лет назад

That's the 2.1s 2018 hardware version, I got the 2.1s 2019 version, the display is super bright, it has a CR 2032 battery but I'm having one problem. Unless the device is switched on all the time, the battery is completely flat within 10 days. I have replaced 4 batteries, each one of the was completely empty in 7-10 days. Now I keep the device switched on 24/7. I know that no power from CR2032 is leaking towards the power supply board, I haven't tested if it's leaking to the tip (it was connected the whole time while power was off).

@learnelectronics 5 лет назад

That's a design fail for sure.

@AlanDike 4 года назад

@@learnelectronics r10 resistor on the pcb jright near the stm32 processor. It goes to ground. New ones ship without that resistor and dont have that problem. Voltblog removed his and that fixed his battery dead issue.

@flemmingchristiansen2462 5 лет назад

I have just been watching same topic on Defpom channel, it must be good as you both like the KSGER T 12, i want one! There is a whole lot of tips to choose from, would be nice with an introduction from an expert, Paul :), to witch tip to use for what task/job

@learnelectronics 5 лет назад

Ok. I have new tips coming. There will be another video.

@TheDefpom 5 лет назад

Flemming Christiansen - they are just Hakko T12 tips, so very easy to get, and in my experience the cheap ones from China work just fine, I have a range of them which I already had for use with my fake FX951

@jakedunn8997 4 года назад

Hey there. I just bought myself a t12 from eBay. I'm new to electronics and soldering. It product didn't come with a power cable. I have a power cable that fits and it turns the device on. It's a 250v cable I just want to know whether this is appropriate for use with the device?

@learnelectronics 4 года назад

It has a built in power supply.

@jakedunn8997 4 года назад

@@learnelectronics Can you explain what you mean, mine doesn't seem to have one. It requires a cable to be pplugged in at the back.

@JohnCena-iw2vk 4 года назад

@@jakedunn8997 does it have the internal PSU? or does it use a small barrel jack for power?

@GeorgeChristofi 5 лет назад

Looks like Banggood have been giving them away free to loads of people! Have you compared it to the ts100 pencil iron that uses the similar opensource software?

@learnelectronics 5 лет назад

Just a quick RU-vid search on the name of the iron popped up 12 other videos on the subject.

@gordselectronicshobby3853 5 лет назад

Yes, the power switch is backwards in my opinion. Like the male human anatomy "When it's up , it's on, when it's off, it's down"

@TheResidentSkeptic 5 лет назад

Yeah I don't like it so I've started just leaving it on. I don't really like that I can't otherwise turn it off, but I just set the timeout to 1 minute so it's fine - now I don't have to reach around the back at all.

@DoctorThe113 4 года назад

Would you buy ksger or ts100 if their price is same? In comparison is the grip of ts100 better than ksger? Would you prefer ts100 as your daily soldering iron?

@learnelectronics 4 года назад

KSGR, but it's just personal preference

@DoctorThe113 4 года назад

@@learnelectronics what about the ergonomics?

@georgechambers3197 5 лет назад

Personally, I like the little devil on the main board. 😀 Thanks for the video!

@learnelectronics 5 лет назад

So far it's a really nice station. I hate the tip they sent with it but I have some more coming. I think banggood sent out about two dozen of these for review because I've been seeing them everywhere.

@georgechambers3197 5 лет назад

Yah, I've seen that. I'm still going to stick with my military issue Weller. I can't adjust the temp but it's been working for me for about 40 years. I finally put a new tip on it last summer. Like you I'm finicky about the tips!

@pr0xZen 4 года назад

@@georgechambers3197 Even as a multidecade user of something known, I highly advise giving these a spin. The cartridge type tips really make a world of difference. The biggest root cause is the heating element and temp sensor being all the way up in there, right at the business end - so it's not just that it warms up in just a tiny handful of seconds. But when soldering something big / with a lot of thermal mass, the station know heat is draining instantly, and responds equally quick. And the chinese/taiwanese copycat cartrige tips have gotten _really_ good the last year or two. For the price, IMO it's worth a spin. Never thought I'd retire my old trusty iron, but I'm now very glad my colleague convinced me to try this thing out.

@badacconosu 5 лет назад

I just like my ersa picco eith ground mod

@monkeymanstones1 5 лет назад

learnelectronics - Please measure the rods used within. I paid for one of these 2 months ago (still waiting for it but it's supposedly only 23 days away) and have seen many offers/discounts/coupons for the rod/tip device used by these... But I was never able to order any of them because KSGER doesn't tell you what the included T12 units sizes are. It is arriving with a chisel tip, but I most often solder SMD devices like resistors so I need an extremely fine tip! I haven't been able to take advantage of any discounts of advantage because I cannot get an answer for the size of the rod/tips used by this. So long as the units I buy are standard 10k ohm units I have little to fear as changing a few wires is no problem at all.

@learnelectronics 5 лет назад

T12 tips are 139mm x 5.5mm

@learnelectronics 5 лет назад

I get 8 Ohms

@electroniquepassion 5 лет назад

Thank

@electronicshobbyistmushtha5448 5 лет назад

Good review.!!!!

@SIXSTRING63 5 лет назад

Very good soldering station after a month and half wait to get it. Banggood was a bit sketchy on what was in stock saying it was when it was not. I had to threaten them with a complaint via PayPal and it miraculously showed up very quick. Other than crappy shipment time I like it a lot. Bought two genuine Hakko t12 tips, a dL 32 and a dL 52 and they work great with it. Bought the 12 tip package from Banggood too, ok, but not as nice as the Hakko tips. So far it handles some heavy point to point stuff I’ve used it on. The boost feature is killer when you need a little extra. Make sure you jam the tips down quite hard or it will error quite regularly. I took my handle apart and sanded that schmoo that seems to be on all this Chinisium metal that doesn’t make good electrical connections. Tip heat correction that stores for each tip is great. Seems to repeat the heat from one tip to the other once calibrated.

@TheResidentSkeptic 5 лет назад

Haha, I had issues with Banggood's stock too, and now I have 2 of them... I didn't complain or anything, they just said it was out of stock and offered a refund, so I ordered one from Amazon, then my Banggood one showed up later. Meh.

@ShanyGolan 5 лет назад

got the same one. really good for the price!

@atbglenn 5 лет назад

Nice. If I didn't have Hakko and Weller soldering stations, I'd order one of these with different tips. The included one looks like crap.

@learnelectronics 5 лет назад

It does, but I have new ones that just came in today. I'll be trying them out and reporting back.

@atbglenn 5 лет назад

@@learnelectronics Let us know which ones you like.

@VegasGuy89183 4 года назад

I agree. Up is ON. Down is OFF. Assembly mistakes like that bug me.

@eladioh3858 5 лет назад

I just received mine 5 days ago And I loved it👍 I got latest version with the aluminium handle . Really fast response time Great video Paul Thanks

@eladioh3858 5 лет назад

I Also ordered 5 other different tips and they work all fine 👍

@MCsCreations 5 лет назад

Pretty nice soldering station, man. And it's pretty cheap! I want to find a good one with a heat gun. 😊

@learnelectronics 5 лет назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kC6xE78RaH0.html

@joshm264 4 года назад

Apparently, KSGER made an SMD rework one, which uses the same case, but they even, for 150 ish dollars, have a big all in one that's silver.

@nicksanto882 5 лет назад

Hi Paul, Again an appreciated contribution! Thanks! Here’s a dumb... Does the display have a tinted protector on it? Later, Nick

@learnelectronics 5 лет назад

It doesn't seem to.

@DarkSTar6215 2 года назад

I know some hippies that would love this soldering station

@Moonbrony 5 лет назад

Also available as a kit including a couple of extra different tips for even less money. And it's only a wiring kit so may as well spend even less and just wire it yourself.

@TheDefpom 5 лет назад

What a coincidence ! I just reviewed one of these too a couple of days ago, I have a user manual linked in the description of my video if anyone needs it.

@learnelectronics 5 лет назад

There have been quite a few reviews. Post the link to manual if you don't mind...

@TRS-Tech 5 лет назад

Is it possible to increase the brightness ? I don't normally solder in the pitch dark so I can see the set temperature !

@TheResidentSkeptic 5 лет назад

Mine is really bright... I mean, I'm not outside in direct sunlight but it's not like in this video at all. I think there is a problem with this unit. I can read mine perfectly while shining a 80W (equiv) bulb at it from 1' away.

@cfusername 5 лет назад

@@TRS-Tech Having a similar unit with the same display and it's bright. Seems to be a problem of the individual device.

@TRS-Tech 5 лет назад

@@cfusername lol Oh well. I don't have to bother now. I had a Hacko iron but no base station. Found a project box, a little thermostat module, op amp, triac and mosfet so I made my own base. I have a soldering iron thermocouple and tested it last night. Its only 3 degrees C out at 350 and 2 degrees C out at 200 so that will do me. Its working a treat. Saved myself a few quid there.

@michaelpadovani9566 5 лет назад

It's small and compact...but (personal opinion here), i do not need all that functionality. The station i have works great and is $60 (was $50 when i purchased)...the X-Tronic Model #3020-XTS, i would personally reccomend to anyone in the market.

@learnelectronics 5 лет назад

Personally I would not have sought out this iron for myself and purchased it. But because it came free in the mail, and because it works quite well, I will use it.

@AlanDike 4 года назад

Thats 20 more than i paid for this station..

@SandyToesDetecting 5 лет назад

I ordered one last month from aliexpress, arrived a week ok. DOA. seller is supposed to be sending me a replacement. Hopefully that works.

@learnelectronics 5 лет назад

I hope you get it replaced

@daviddesrosiers1946 3 года назад

All that isolation between the high and low side? Yeah, check out the span of the heat sink across the whole thing.

@1elaijah 4 года назад

That flux makes it a two year piece of trash because it corrosive. You breath pretty heavy like I use to. But I went to orange theory and got better. It turned out super fun.

@rolandberendonck3900 5 лет назад

I am puzzled why there is no stand/holder for the wand if you are not using it? Does that bother?, because I am used to that. Good upload Paul since I am still looking for a nice and better soldering station, so thanks :)

@learnelectronics 5 лет назад

It did not come with one.

@rolandberendonck3900 5 лет назад

@@learnelectronics To me that seems like an odd kind of saving for such a higher class product. And with the tight space I have on my bench I wouldn't like that; I recently burned a new probe for my oscoop with my iron while I did not pay it too much attention (and I do have a holder for it). I don't like a 350 C degrees wand laying around overhere. However I do like the compactness of this unit :)

@geirendre 5 лет назад

I think it's a good idea to not include a stand, Banggood have many different types, so you can buy which one you prefer. Rather than them selecting one crappy for you.

@JimPBarber 5 лет назад

Just got mine. Chinese only!!! Option 10 which should be the language selection only switches from one type of Chinese to another. No english!! Sucks as I waited 2 weeks for the thing to arrive from Banggood. Very disappointed. The menu also has 21 options vs the 19 shown in all the manuals that I can find. Used the link to buy it.....

@cfusername 5 лет назад

Thank you for sharing your review. I also got this device a few months ago. Made some pictures: imgur.com/a/n3hoLSV I'm using it now as my regular soldering station. There is also a similar station with less features, using a STC microcontroller: imgur.com/a/JRNycxh (At first power up a resistor on the power supply board of the STC station exploded and I got a new board from the seller to replace it.)

@jaywon555 5 лет назад

Paul, just be aware bang good works with the supplier to get the best samples they can for reviewers, cause they know youtubers are gonna rip the snot outta them looking for anything off, be interesting to compare it with a normal joe blow anonymous order.

@Techieguy93 5 лет назад

I have one I just bought from Amazon. I will take a look inside and see how it compares.

@AlanDike 4 года назад

@@Techieguy93 I bought one from bangood.. it wass back ordered.. and its just as well done.

@TheResidentSkeptic 5 лет назад

Heck yeah! I just got mine from Banggood last week! Actually, Banggood said they were out of stock and asked if I wanted a refund... so I took the refund and ordered one for more money on Amazon... That one arrived broken - had to resolder the tilt-switch in the handle since the wires are like 32AWG and must tear when assembling. Anyway, then a week later my Banggood iron arrived... so now I have a spare, or a gift. Those looking to order one, check the model number - the 2.1S (the one in this video) is the most recent version. Can confirm it melts solder in

@jlr3636 5 лет назад

TheResidentSkeptic - Same exact thing happened to me. I’m about done with Aliexpress and Bangood, willing to pay a little more and get it quicker and some customer service

@hailongxie3838 5 лет назад

Actually you can buy it in China , it's cheaper. By the way , t12 is out of time now , we are trying to make High frequency Soldering Station, hh (sorry about my poor English :) )

@acoustic61 5 лет назад

Are you a manufacturer? Don't High Frequency stations use tips that only work at one temperature? Which High Frequency station do you recommend? Thanks.

@sciencetroll6304 5 лет назад

Cold = cod. Sold = sod. Gold = God. Yes ? No ? Solder has an 'L' in it.

@TheSwartz 3 года назад

Banggood was the absolute worse knockoff Chinese online store I've used. Ever. Should absolutely be your LAST resort to buy anything from them.

@johndcoffman 4 года назад

I love your videos; please do not stop. For what it is worth, I pulled the cover off my KSGER unit and found the 400V, 68mf capacitor leaking; I just ordered a replacement capacitor. I had not used the station more than 20 minutes. I had seen another video of someone with the same 400V, 68mf capacitor leaking. Someone wrote on that site they thought KSGER was installing used capacitors in some units. The units offer phenomenal bang for the buck - when they work properly. If you buy one of these stations, I recommend taking the cover off and doing a brief inspection after you run the station for a few minutes. (In the case of the other videographer, he saw magic smoke coming out almost immediately after powering up the unit, and he shut off the station. Upon inspection, it appeared the capacitor had been punctured. Here is a link to his video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-cowgbwU3b5c.html With that said, I am still happy with my purchase (from Banggood).

@johndcoffman 4 года назад

Actually, it was the 400V, 68uf capacitor that leaked.

@johndcoffman 4 года назад

Actually, it was the 400V, 68uf capacitor that leaked.

@johndcoffman 4 года назад

Actually, it was the 400V, 68uf capacitor that leaked.

@ShanyGolan 5 лет назад

no fume extractor..... hazard to the lungs!

@therider3939 3 года назад

That's a ntc not a mov

@vidanatural_oficial 5 лет назад

It was the wrong tip for the job.

@learnelectronics 5 лет назад

Indeed it was.

@TheDefpom 5 лет назад

Up being on is a US thing, to me down is on, or maybe I’m upside down? Lol.

@lacviet100 5 лет назад

Here’s in Melbourne, Australia on is down too.

@learnelectronics 5 лет назад

Well you're on the opposite side of the planet from me yeah? Its summer there? That explains it lol.. I enjoyed your review on the unit by the way very thorough as are all of your videos.

@jimb032 5 лет назад

In the US we definitely like up to be on. Just like the toilet paper, we think up over is the correct way. :)